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1) for fun. I like trying to outwit people, although I have to admit I much prefer FTF games to any sort of online version of mafiaNetopalis wrote:Alrighty...Question time!
1) Why do you play Mafia?
2) How many licks DOES it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
3) Can you describe your thought processes leading into this game?
4) Let's say that you win the game. What conditions lead to that win? What qualities will the game have? Will it be ordered or chaotic, logical or gut-based, fast or drawn out?
5) What is the square root of potato?
6) Can you please link me to the one game that you're most proud of on this site?
7) This is not a question.
My answers will follow everybody else posting their answers, and will be posted with the reasoning behind each question. I do this so that my answers and reasoning don't interfere with the answers generated by others, thus skewing the results.
2) depends on how strong your tongue is
3) I actually got into this game by accident because I'd /inned for a different game that was full. However I've always thought that themed games are far superior to non-themed games
4)IfWhen my faction wins the game, it will be because nothing will have been able to stop our righteous crusade against the wicked, whatever form they may take, whatever hidden catacombs they might strike from, and whatever false claims they make.
5) rutabaga
6) No, I can't. TBH I haven't been particularly proud of any of my play on the site thus far, but I am a relatively new player to mafiascum.net so I hope to rectify that with this game
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Technically I'd say his way of dealing with a player he finds hard to read is to refuse to provide content himself.Iecerint wrote:Still makes no sense. Your apparent way of dealing with a player you find hard to read is to reduce their capacity to produce content.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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So we've gone fromRobocopter87 wrote:Wait. You guys are reading me wrong.
I'm just sayin' I've been played by Neto before. I have made the mistake of automatically calling him town then listening to him.
What I mean is that I won't do it in this game, I have my eyes open. You guys think I am creating some excuse for not providing content. I'm not, if I fail to create content, I shall face the consequences.
"I won't answer the questions" to "I won't make the mistake of assuming he's town"One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Uhhhh... My latest post was yesterday afternoon. Also if you DID attempt to prod me, I haven't received it.ReaperCharlie wrote:millar13 and Muffin have been prodded.
They have 48 hours to respond to the prod or post in the thread, or else they will be replaced.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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I don't think he's in any danger of getting quick-hammered this early into the game. Any player that quick-hammers Robo only 5 pages into the game is either scum or a poor town player and would at the very least fall under intense scrutiny the next night from town PRs and the next day.millar13 wrote:Someone will probably hammer you anyway. Don't play the card...if get one more vote i will claim card. If you mention claiming then do it, instead of using it as some sort of leverage
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Honesty i dislike him totally, in the way he plays and his general attitude. And if he is off the scene, then I am actually able to play the game and search for mafiascum instead of human scum[/quote]millar13 wrote:What, specifically, about Robo seems scummy to you?
If this is true, then IMO you need to replace out of this game. Don't let your personal emotional biases get in the way of winning the game. He could be town, and then you'd be voting off a townie just because you don't like him which at the very least is playing contrary to your win condition.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Ahh damn it.EBWOP, should be like this:
If this is true, then IMO you need to replace out of this game. Don't let your personal emotional biases get in the way of winning the game. He could be town, and then you'd be voting off a townie just because you don't like him which at the very least is playing contrary to your win condition.[/quote]millar13 wrote:
Honesty i dislike him totally, in the way he plays and his general attitude. And if he is off the scene, then I am actually able to play the game and search for mafiascum instead of human scumMuffin wrote:What, specifically, about Robo seems scummy to you?One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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I already asked you WHY you find him scummy and the best answer you could come up with is "Honesty i dislike him totally, in the way he plays and his general attitude."millar13 wrote:I'm not replacing out of a game, because someone has a vendetta on me and I'm stepping up to the mark.
Plus the fact that from a quick skim...he seems most scummy seems to be apparent. Its quite clear im not the only one that thinks this after only six pages
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Here's another ridiculous vote.Furcolow wrote:this game is getting on my nerves
i attribute it to robocopter, who always manages to get on my nerves
i am wanting a more fun game
##vote robocopter87
i also disagree with the assesment on netopalis. we cannot use meta on a day 1 lynch in my opinionOne's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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I will spell it out for you:millar13 wrote:I don't actually understand what that even means; was that english?
-I think your reasons for voting for Robo are invalid/fake/made-up
-I think that if you have a personal problem with Robo that prevents you from playing in an objective manner, you should ask the mod to find a replacement for you
-I think that my vote is staying where it is for the time being
-I think you should unvote, because it only takes 5 to lynch, and robo has 5 votes on him. Even if you want to hammer him you should still give him the chance to claim, at the very least.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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LOL what a flipflop. First he's the scummiest player in the game. Then you refuse to provide quotations of what about him you found scummy. Now he's guaranteed town?millar13 wrote:However, someone did think they were going to kill you off though. Which means scum definitely fear you; which means despite everything i said earlier your 100% town.
On top of that, Millar13 was the first person to come up with a reason for why the zergrush didn't kill Robo:
I'm thinking "someone" in that sentence = "millar"However, someone did think they were going to kill you off though.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Can we get your answers now? I don't think concerns about skewing the results are valid/warranted.Netopalis wrote:My answers will follow everybody else posting their answers, and will be posted with the reasoning behind each question. I do this so that my answers and reasoning don't interfere with the answers generated by others, thus skewing the results.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Convenient indeed.The original case against robocopter was reasonable since it was the only real lead at the time, but I'm surprised it went as far as to force a claim. I wouldn't call him confirmed town. It feels a bit convenient that he survived the zerg attack, assuming that an increased lynch threshold is not a common power in this game.
Realistically I wouldn't expect that scum would get increased lynch threshold as an ability... feels a bit swingy.
On the other hand I suppose speculating about the setup is WIFOM to a certain extent.
Furcolow and Millar 13 are the two scummiest players in my books right now. Both of them jumped on the Robo wagon for completely asinine reasons and then promptly reversed their positions. On top of that neither of them have really contributed anything in terms of content.
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I understand. That's why I want him to post or be replaced, because I'd rather not lynch millar until we hear from all the playersRobocopter87 wrote:
Mindgamer hasn't posted in any of his games, hes just been gone. I'm in like all of his current games and he's just stopped posting.Muffin wrote:I'm interested to hear Mindgamer's thoughts on the game so far. We've heard nothing from him except his randomvote on me early on.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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I don't. Perhaps you can link to the post where Millar gave specific examples of what he found scummy? Because I seem to remember the following exchange taking place:I seem to recall him doing exactly that.
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You are at L-2 now Millar. Do you feel pressure?millar13 wrote:oh you do though...its called pressure.
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L-2...it good tbh as if anyone puts him to L-1....then that person is indeed going to look scummy.
And i dont think anyone is going to want that...but L-3...isn't really enough especially considering...shotty and myself were both L-3 on this page; so i don't quite understand why your not altogether with it Neto (unless you know something?)One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Millar has contributed almost nothing in 12 pages except to latch on to other players' arguments and ape them as his own. Case in point:
Robocopter87 poat 269 wrote:Neto, being a VI doesn't clear him to be town. I think hes scum. Yes hes certainly acting like a VI but its not called that. This is called,Flailing. Hes trying to find someway out of his death. A normal townie would continue to scumhunt because Townies don't lose if they die. Theres a much bigger consequence for the death of scum than for death of Town. So with that being said.
Furcolow is flailing.
Furcolow is scummy.millar13 post 276 wrote:Policy lynching a bad player is common; i often deserve it.
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Yes, nothing. Shall I do a post-by-post? Sorry for wall-of-text in advance.millar13 wrote:I've contributed nothing? Wow....your opinion is so useless
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Nothing here, just confirming.millar13 wrote:confirm vodka bitches
A bullshit excuse. How did you confirm into the game without reading your role PM?millar13 wrote:I never got a role pm, and my PROD was the first notification from the mod....so soz
Oh wait, the story doesn't add up? Ha ha, better EBWOP your way out of it.millar13 wrote:EBWOPOH wait it did
As others have noted, this post came 4 minutes after the previous one. You read the whole thread up to that point and decided who was scummiest in 4 minutes? Even if you did, you don't present anything to back up your claim. You just say "he's scummy".millar13 wrote:Just caught upVote: Robo
semes quite scummy from what i have gathered
More fluff...millar13 wrote:No....EBWOP clearly informs that I did
Role-fishing. At the very least anti-town if not scummy.millar13 wrote:lol....
if you have something about your role say it now; L-2 or L-1 doesn't matter that much
Someone will probably hammer you anyway. Don't play the card...if get one more vote i will claim card. If you mention claiming then do it, instead of using it as some sort of leverage
This is possibly the most substantial post millar has made, and yet it's mostly just quotes. First he corrects a vote count (ooh, ahh) and then when I ask for SPECIFIC REASONS why he finds robo funny, as per his earlier vote, he says "I just don't like him" more anti-town BSmillar13 wrote:
Actually you are at L-2...if you countedRobocopter87 wrote:Well, you see. I'm not at L-2. I'm at L-3.
Honesty i dislike him totally, in the way he plays and his general attitude. And if he is off the scene, then I am actually able to play the game and search for mafiascum instead of human scumMuffin wrote:
What, specifically, about Robo seems scummy to you?millar13 wrote:Just caught upVote: Robo
semes quite scummy from what i have gathered
Here millar provides a list of what he thinks happens when someone mentions that they have a power role. Fine, good, whatever. But this is not scumhunting, this is just filler crap, including the bullshit "claiming at L-1 is scummy"millar13 wrote:Clearly I am not fishing for his roles; because he is the person that brought them up to begin with.
My view is that as soon as your mention your have roles
1) You are putting a target over you head
2) You are trying to use it as leverage not to get lynched (but ultimatley mafia will normally NK u unless you are fellow scum)
3) If you mention roles, but then say you will only reveal say at L-1 rather than L-2...then that is just scummy.
Refusing to ask for a replacement because he has a personal grudge against another player, even after it was pointed out that holding said grudge can be detrimental to the town.millar13 wrote:I'm not replacing out of a game, because someone has a vendetta on me and I'm stepping up to the mark.
Plus the fact that from a quick skim...he seems most scummy seems to be apparent. Its quite clear im not the only one that thinks this after only six pages
Still more fluff and fillermillar13 wrote:I'm so confused as too what just happen
And more...millar13 wrote:I don't actually understand what that even means; was that english?
False claiming is a no-no in most peoples' books, but there was no evidence Robo had false-claimed. This is just filler disguised as scumhunting. Also still refusing to replace out due to his personal grudge.millar13 wrote:Unvotefine but if he doesn't claim; my vote is going right back on him
False claiming is a big no-no is my book
and replacement; dont be so silly. I'm not the first person to have quarrells on this site.
Millar shows us how to latch on to someone else's argument when you can't come up with any on your own. Here he's presented with the idea of calling people active lurkers.millar13 wrote:
Oh that is a good point....who else is online @ the moment. Active lurking!!!Iecerint wrote:Well, that was neat.
If we look at RC's global posting pattern on the site, we may get an idea of when the "Zerg Rush" ability was sent in. This is relevant based on the probability that it was sent in prior to robo claiming needing an extra vote to lynch him.
Ythan, why is that post scummy?
Here he throws BV's name out. It might be true, but again millar provides nothing concrete to back it up. It's just "LOL HAY GUYS IT MIGHT BE BV"millar13 wrote:EBWOP:
possibly BV; had something to do with this? But with it not going through, stepped away from voting in order to remove oneself from firing line? Just an idea not a FOS or anything like thatbv310 wrote:Unvote
Not ready for a lynch just yet.
More fillermillar13 wrote:How did you get that power?
And moremillar13 wrote:So your claiming that as a Good you; you have a power that you don't have to select daily/nightly and instead have a power that works throughout the entire game?
"Oh, someone else asked for his character... I better do the same so I seem pro-town"millar13 wrote:Yea; would like to know that too. if your going to claim power; might as well give ur character
Still speculating about this power. Still not scumhunting.millar13 wrote:i still don't believe its a passive thing, but rather a selfish-self election thing.
This is a significant post, IMO. Millar was the first person to come to this conclusion, or at least to voice it in thread. He also flip flops on Robo's alignment and says that robo is now "100% town". I think this is a case of scum having stuck their necks out too far and backpedaling furiously.millar13 wrote:However, someone did think they were going to kill you off though. Which means scum definitely fear you; which means despite everything i said earlier your 100% town.
Does millar think that if he just keeps providing shallow comments on the goings-on that nobody will suspect him?millar13 wrote:What is Zerg Rush? i don't actually fully understand the theme, but it looked cool
So I clearly cannot drink the wine in front ofmillar13 wrote:That is the exact point i made lol; i think we can confirm Robo as town.
Unless of course a fellow mafia member knew he would survive; in the ultimate cover-up
Just saying lol, because you never know with themes.you...
Unable to commit to anything. That is a scumtell IMHOmillar13 wrote:Oh im not saying i fully believe that, but in this game never leave any stone unturned
Can't think of anything to say still?millar13 wrote:that Day action has shaken things up so much lol
Yes, that's indeed possible. But speculating on the setup is not scumhunting.millar13 wrote:yea lol....make me think. If Robo does have the ability to increase someone vote threshhold then could an opposite role lower someone's threshold
Still no scumhuntingmillar13 wrote:You can't know that for sure; you cant be certain that is the counter
Still no scumhuntingmillar13 wrote:I think someone doesn't neccersarily have to have voted; to instigate it.
Oh and here we see the argument that millar latched onto earlier is brought to bear on someone! No case is presented. No logic. Just call him an active lurker and vote. That ought to work right? Right?millar13 wrote:Vote: STTB
WAY TO GO ACTIVE LURKER SCUM!
you have nothing to say during the entire period of this Zerg Attack, but as soon as someone votes for you you post within an hour.
SCUM
This is about as close as millar comes to actively attempting to find scum.millar13 wrote:i dont do other games....because i play each 1 differently. All i know is you had nothing to say; until someone VOTED for you. Denying that?
Buddying up to neto.millar13 wrote:Neto it was a completly OMGUS...and i no you noticed that he has SUDDENLY appeared after you voted him.
HIGH FIVE on a lurker trap
Fluff.millar13 wrote:Reasons Kdub?
This one is rich. He claims someone's argument is weak because it's based only on coincidence and timing and yet TWO POSTS PREVIOUSLY he did the same thing to Shotty. What a joke.millar13 wrote:yours is based solely on coincidence and timing...not actually a strong case. Just a lot of quote and comments.
Wishy-washy voting.millar13 wrote:Vote: Furcolowi might be partially dyslexic (one of the reasons i play games like this; to practise)
but; that has not reason to indicate scum; that is one of the worst reasons ever.
SCUM I FOUND YOU!
Correcting a votecount again. This is closer to what I like to see, but it is still not scumhunting.millar13 wrote:lowered threshhold lol...my vote put him at L-4 (without it he goes to L....oh wait NO VOTES)
you put him on L-3.
And to be honest I hope that we get another three votes on him; i might not often see eye to eye with you lol (i think its an ACTIVE PLAYERS thing) but grammar is never a reason....never ever ever a reason to suspect someone. Maybe in RVS....and that just a scummy player looking for something desperate. If people are even nervous about hammering this scummy mofo, il opt to hammer him myself.
Forgot to unvote... okay... Nice to see he promised a "big case" for shotty. I wonder if we'll ever see it? Somehow I doubt it.millar13 wrote:EBWOP:
seeing as i didn'tUnvotelol easy mistake...although Shotty (i am coming for you DAy) and u will get a big case
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Oh now he claims that L-2 is just as much pressure as L-1. Let's see about that, shall we?millar13 wrote:oh you do though...its called pressure.
And if he actually is scum; then this ZERG thing could very well have been instigated by him
so would be irony if it was sort of pushing him againgst it.
L-2...it good tbh as if anyone puts him to L-1....then that person is indeed going to look scummy.
And i dont think anyone is going to want that...but L-3...isn't really enough especially considering...shotty and myself were both L-3 on this page; so i don't quite understand why your not altogether with it Neto (unless you know something?)
Hmm, here he states that he thinks fossing is weak. I agree, I think fossing is silly and arbitrary. Here he claims that he'll replace out of this game if he's wrong. Also according to millar grammar and such things are not a legitimate case, but hating someone is a legitimate case. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.millar13 wrote:fair point; i just believe that FOSing weak, especially after he gave such an easy oppurtunity.
In fact; i am so confident as i never seen such a week case that if would happily REPLACE out of this game if i was wrong about him lol.
I don't think it gets much easier than when someones uses the "grammar" or other such stupid reasons (HATING on someone however is a legit reason; in this community)
I agree that grammar is not a legitimate case against someone. What I think is legitimate is that millar STILL has not done any scumhunting.millar13 wrote:Basically; i am fully confident in my spot. The use of "Grammar" being the reason I am scummy is weak. That is almost like 'Furcolow' shouting; im a member of the scum-team and ive actually lost reasons other than to make on that exists; but isn't legitimate. If you could make money from predictions; i would put money that he is defo scum.
Here he claims Furcolow's vote is OMGUS. It probably is, as I could see furcolow being scum as well, trying to distance himself from obvscum Millar. What I find interesting about this post is that Millar is at L-2, and claims he feels no pressure, despite earlier claiming that L-2 is an effective pressure situation.millar13 wrote:lol Furcolowi like the blatant OMGUS
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i'm not scum. i'll let you stick to your IRC with Netopalis and STTBmillar13 wrote:Basically; i am fully confident in my spot. The use of "Grammar" being the reason I am scummy is weak. That is almost like 'Furcolow' shouting; im a member of the scum-team and ive actually lost reasons other than to make on that exists; but isn't legitimate. If you could make money from predictions; i would put money that he is defo scum.
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You are at L-2 now Millar. Do you feel pressure?millar13 wrote:oh you do though...its called pressure.
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L-2...it good tbh as if anyone puts him to L-1....then that person is indeed going to look scummy.
And i dont think anyone is going to want that...but L-3...isn't really enough especially considering...shotty and myself were both L-3 on this page; so i don't quite understand why your not altogether with it Neto (unless you know something?)
IRC? Say what? I'm not one with the technical jargon.
Anyway; your only reason for voting me was THE IRC and me voting for you; that is one hell of weak defense.
And although we are both at L-2, i think i am safe in saying that you are feeling more pressure than I am.
Failmillar13 wrote:Robo...what is an IC?
Just google it, jesus christ.millar13 wrote:i meant IRC sorry lol
Is being under my scrutiny uncomfortable? Trying to get me off your back? Too lazy to go back a couple of pages and read what I said about Furcolow?millar13 wrote:Also want to know what Muffin thinks.
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Here he latches on to the flailing argument, as I mentioned previously.millar13 wrote:Policy lynching a bad player is common; i often deserve it.
But personally; i just feel like it was a real bad attempt and he is flailing now
Oh, so now he's decided to fos me, despite saying earlier he thinks it's weak. I'm quaking in my space-boots at the prospect of a fos.millar13 wrote:Lazyness is scummyFOS:Muffin
The sum total of your contributions is equal to the square root of dick. Nothing.millar13 wrote:I've contributed nothing? Wow....your opinion is so uselessOne's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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You got a case. My case is that you contribute nothing to this town. All those quotes are my supporting evidence.millar13 wrote:Muffin i asked for a case; not an analysis of everything i said. Quote quote quote
that isn't a case.
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You disagree with my assertion that Millar has provided minimal content and done no scumhunting?Robocopter87 wrote:I disagree with Muffin. That wasn't a case, that was a misinterpretation of most of Millars posts and an extremely biased argument.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Nothing I wrote was a lie.Robocopter87 wrote:Most of it was him dissing Millar. He was more into personal attacks than focusing on what Millar was saying his posts. Muffin purposely tried to paint Millar as total scum.
I know I'm chainsaw defending him but lying is antitown.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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That particular post was on the 4th page of the thread. You'll forgive me for not building a strong case during the preceding 3 pages of random voting, confirming, etc.millar13 wrote:Muffin wrote:
So we've gone fromRobocopter87 wrote:Wait. You guys are reading me wrong.
I'm just sayin' I've been played by Neto before. I have made the mistake of automatically calling him town then listening to him.
What I mean is that I won't do it in this game, I have my eyes open. You guys think I am creating some excuse for not providing content. I'm not, if I fail to create content, I shall face the consequences.
"I won't answer the questions" to "I won't make the mistake of assuming he's town"
I think i want to make the point that until this point in the game you hadn't actually targeted anyone but rather latched on or simply commented on other people's actions. Now even though this wasn't my intention, I have actually sort of come to a different theory; how would you believe it lol
Am I the lynchee...and are you the lyncher? Because that would make perfect sense @ least if i am the Day 1 target?One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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The fact that your interpretation of Millar's play differs from mine does not mean I lied. You're dodging the question, too.Robocopter87 wrote:Furcolow is buddying up to Muffin because Millar voted for him.
The point of the post is to show how much you lied. You twisted his words to fit your needs. Your scummy.Muffin wrote:So I take it that you think millar has done substantial scumhunting and produced a lot of protown content.
I asserted that millar had produced no pro-town content, and done no real scumhunting. I then went through all of his posts and showed my interpretation of them. I asked you:
You then went through my PBPA of millar and mostly just told me I was a jerk because I'm being hard on millar.You disagree with my assertion that Millar has provided minimal content and done no scumhunting?
So I'll ask you again:
Do you, or do you not agree that millar13 has provided little to no pro-town content?
Do you, or do you not agree that millar13 has done no real scumhunting?One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Do you think speculating about the nature of the zerg rush (kekeke) is pro town? In my opinion it's wasted effort. it puzzles me too, but I'm not paralyzed by confusion like it seems other players are. I see an interesting game mechanic, take note of it, and move on. Speculating back and forth as to the nature of the zerg rush (kekekeke) is fine from an academic standpoint but it's not going to get us anywhere as a town.Robocopter87 wrote:I disagree. This game hasn't been about scumhunting rather speculation due to the Zerg Rush, he has provided content. He has scumhunted as much as anyone else.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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No I'm not. I'm saying it's not pro-town.Ythan wrote:
Are you saying that mere speculation is anti-town?Muffin wrote:
Do you think speculating about the nature of the zerg rush (kekeke) is pro town? In my opinion it's wasted effort. it puzzles me too, but I'm not paralyzed by confusion like it seems other players are. I see an interesting game mechanic, take note of it, and move on. Speculating back and forth as to the nature of the zerg rush (kekekeke) is fine from an academic standpoint but it's not going to get us anywhere as a town.Robocopter87 wrote:I disagree. This game hasn't been about scumhunting rather speculation due to the Zerg Rush, he has provided content. He has scumhunted as much as anyone else.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Please explain to me how speculating back and forth on the nature of the Zerg Rush (kekekeke) will help us find scum.Furcolow wrote:
You want us to move on from the most important thing that has happened in this game so far? Is it because you are afraid someone is going to make a connection to you? I am of a mind to say that it is, and that this points to you, and that is why you "want us to move on".Muffin wrote:
Do you think speculating about the nature of the zerg rush (kekeke) is pro town? In my opinion it's wasted effort. it puzzles me too, but I'm not paralyzed by confusion like it seems other players are. I see an interesting game mechanic, take note of it, and move on. Speculating back and forth as to the nature of the zerg rush (kekekeke) is fine from an academic standpoint but it's not going to get us anywhere as a town.Robocopter87 wrote:I disagree. This game hasn't been about scumhunting rather speculation due to the Zerg Rush, he has provided content. He has scumhunted as much as anyone else.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Yes, you're quite right millar. And you did a fair amount of it.millar13 wrote:it wont Muffin...this a tactic used by scum to distract and look like they are actually looking for something.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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So THAT's what losing your cool looks like.Furcolow wrote:buddy, get out of here with that shit. i am just fucking telling you who i am, and that i can "interrogate" people. i can't see alignments, i can see people's abilities. i'm not 100% a cop, but i am confirmable town. if i get myself killed tonight by scum, what the fuck ever, i'd rather us have a chance to lynch fucking scum instead of you fucks mislynching me.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Hang on, my role has a Character Name as well as a Role Name. You gave us your character name, now what's the role?Furcolow wrote:well, i suppose i should claim, in case i'm at L-1
I am Tanya Adams, who I have no idea who that is. I looked it up, and apparently it is a command and conquer character. I'm not really into command and conquer. I can check what abilities people have twice a game, so you all might make use of me.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Back from the cottage, and re reading the thread. Only thoughts so far are that I don't really like it when people try to steer the town without giving info as SpyreX is attempting to do. Also somewhat interested to note that some players are seemingly going along with it.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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I understand that, and I don't get a particularly pro-town vibe from shotty either but I haven't taken the opportunity to really scrutinize his posts yet. If people have legit reasons for voting Shotty that's fine by me. What concerns me though is stuff like this:Netopalis wrote:Muffin: Quite frankly, I'm fairly convinced that Shotty is scum, and since the wagon's on him....I really could care less who is on the wagon. If there's an advantage to others being on it, then by all means...
Which appears to be something approaching "follow the veteran"Robocopter87 wrote:Whoa...
No clue whats Spyre is getting at...
So with that being said, Lets do what he says!
^^The above is serious, might as well just do what he's asking.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Can you tell us why you chose those particular players?SpyreX wrote:There will be information. Like I said, a little trust is necessary. Got to keep the cards close, sometimes.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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I feel so in-the-dark.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Muffin's unofficial vote count.
Furcolow [1] - Ythan
Netopalis [1] - Shotty to the Body
millar13 [2] - Muffin, MagnaofIllusion
Shotty to the Body [2] - Furcolow, Robocopter87
Ythan [1] - Iecerint
Muffin [1] - SpyreX
Not Voting [1] - Kdub
Accounting for damage from the Zergling Rush, it is now 5 to lynch.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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Ythan wrote:
Robo, since I saw you ask, I don't get why Chun Li would have that ability. Did you explain the connection and I just missed it?I've been helping my girlfriend move and spending most of my time over at her new place. I'll see about catching up tonight but I'm in a few games so I'll be spreading the love around. Is there anything immediately requiring my attention while I make this same post in those other threads?
Did we ever get an answer to this question?MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also - as asked before please answer Ythan's question in regards to why Chun Li would have your claimed powers from a flavor perspective.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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That's ridiculous. First of all, even assuming you're town (which I don't) You could investigate every night until the end of the game and conceivably not find someone with the zerg rush ability.Furcolow wrote:i don't really feel like we should focus on "who should have this or that ability" until i can investigate and find someone who has the zerg rush ability
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That's why I'm playing along.MagnaofIllusion wrote:Can you see any big potential downside with his plan that could greatly damage Town by having select people on the lynch? His plan is vague at this point but I don’t forsee anything that could be totally crippling to Town given he’s willing to let others chose the lynch target.One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.-
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