Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

[MagnaofIllusion]

Well, its obv a mafia Roleblock so it wouldn't effect them, duh.

So the Mafia get two kills?

And how does your speculation jive with Furc’s claim that he had his ability stolen? Or Ythan’s indication that he was visited but not killed? Is it a global role-block that isn’t global?

@bv310 and Robo

– Claim your targets (but not your abilities). It’s important.

Also @bv310

– Who is scum. I want a definitive position taken.

[bv310]

I targeted Furc.

Also, I agree with both Muffin's and Iec's cases against Ythan and as such, I feel like Ythan is likely scum.

Unvote, Vote: Ythan

[bv310]

Also, I am not responsible for Furc's ability being "Stolen".

[Robocopter87]

I also targeted Furc.

I was visited, sorta.

[Robocopter87]

Chun Li really needs to get her priorities straight, it was pretty sick.

[Iecerint]

So, Robo was visited, but he still thought a global roleblock was plausible?

[Robocopter87]

Well, kinda visited. But whats so wrong about thinking about a global roleblock when multiple people weren't able to use abilities, whats the alternatives? A bunch of roleblockers?

[Iecerint]

If you know it wasn't global based on your experience and the unlikelihood that you'd miss Ythan's claim, I think you'd consider a global roleblock to be a comparatively remote possibility. Or you'd at least incorporate something like "stalkers are scum or 3rd party and so are the kills" into your expression of plausibility.

Still think your alignment differs from scumMillarZRQueen's, though.

[Muffin]

More votes on Ythan please

[Iecerint]

OK, well, I'll give a spoiler at this point.

I never got a role pm, and my PROD was the first notification from the mod....so soz

Wait, you're saying you confirmed without getting a role PM?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: millar13

Awful reason for voting realscumMillar. Looks like distancing. Ythan calls this out.

I'm feeling worse and worse about Ythan's play. He's been defending millar too much for my liking.

More fixation on millar, and tying another player's scumminess to said player's.

So Kdub may just be a genius, but I lean a bit toward interpreting his early play as distancing + trying to tie Ythan to millar. For one, this kind of scumlink-making, especially when there's not much evidence of careful analysis, is not very fruitful D1 cuz it's all House Of Cards'd and all that. There's some other interactions early in the iso, too (some less sketchy than these), but these are the two bits that stuck out to me after millar flipped, so.

Anyway, I was hoping Kdub would come play the game a bit so I could do more to evaluate Ythan/Kdub, but he evidently sort of refuses to do so, so I'm going ahead with it.

[Muffin]

It's been almost 48 hours... mod will hopefully prod them soon.

[Iecerint]

Like, I'm totally not unsympathetic to Ythan being scum. But.

[ReaperCharlie]

The Brave and the Beautiful - Vote Count 2.2

Shotty to the Body [2] - Furcolow, MagnaofIllusion
Ythan [2] - Muffin, bv310
Furcolow [1] - Robocopter87

Not Voting [4] - Kdub, Iecerint, Shotty to the Body, Ythan

With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

The deadline is Tuesday August 10th at 10:30pm EDT.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, Kdub is V/LA until July 24th, and nobody else is even near to being within prod range.

[Iecerint]

OIC.

Well. I wish I'd known that. Not that it's a huge loss.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, Kdub is V/LA until July 24th, and nobody else is even near to being within prod range.

If you ISO'd him you'd see it in his signature.

On with the game.

[Iecerint]

Yes, well, I don't read those, perhaps in part because I don't bother with them myself.

Also, you are kinda exaggerating wrt what his signature says.

RC IS SCUM WITH KDUB.

[Furcolow]

if there was a mass roleblock, how the hell was my ability stolen?

[Muffin]

There wasn't

[Furcolow]

why did you suggest a mass roleblock bv310?

[bv310]

why did you suggest a mass roleblock bv310?

Because my ability failed, yours failed, and Robo claimed his did as well (initially).

[Robocopter87]

Ya, three people lost abilities, I don't understand why a global role block isn't a possibility. What proves it wrong?

[Muffin]

Ya, three people lost abilities, I don't understand why a global role block isn't a possibility. What proves it wrong?

............................ 2 kills, unless you're suggesting scum team gets 2 kills per night.

[bv310]

I think it might just be the player we targetted.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Iec – Why are you not voting for Kdub if you feel that he’s likely scum?

I think it might just be the player we targetted.

Expand on this a bit please. Why do you think the abilities failed simply because you targeted Furc?

I also targeted Furc.

I was visited, sorta.

First explain exactly what you mean by “was visited, sorta”. This kind of fuzzy disclosure isn’t good.

And I really want a good explanation for why you targeted Furc. You have previsiously claimed that your ability can be used on others to increase their lynch threshold by 1 for the Day. Why would you use this ability on Furc? You were gunning very hard for him Day 1. In fact you voted for him today. A reasonable explanation needs to be made stat.

Well, kinda visited. But whats so wrong about thinking about a global roleblock when multiple people weren't able to use abilities, whats the alternatives? A bunch of roleblockers?

Ya, three people lost abilities, I don't understand why a global role block isn't a possibility. What proves it wrong?

I don’t know where I should begin with these two statements.

1. Furc has claimed his ability was ‘stolen’ and thus he could not use it. He isn’t claiming to be directly blocked.
2. bv310 has claimed his ability failed.
3. You claim that you received a flavored PM stating you were Blocked. You later claim you were ‘sorta visited’.
4. Ythan claims to have received a PM saying he was visited last night.
5. There were two deaths at night. It seems unlikely that the Mafia gets two kills, although it can’t be 100% ruled out.

All five of these things point not to a universal role-block (inconsistent flavors and claimed action effects most strongly).

I’d like this all cleared up completely ASAP. I’m asking the following people to make the following information available

Furc

- can you confirm you got a PM from Reaper saying your ability was stolen as opposed to a PM saying you were role-blocked.

bv310

– please indicate whether you received a PM saying your power failed from Reaper or explain in general terms why you thought it failed.

Robo

– please answer the questions stated to you at the top.

Shotty continues to active lurk and provide no content. He deserves more love in the way of votes.