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Have you played with LuV before? Asking for a friend.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:
Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.-
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'ell I ain't callin' ya tawn.In post 30, gerryoat wrote:
R u calling me mafIn post 26, Aj The Epic wrote:
Yeah Gerry! Preferably for one of the people mentioned in your role PM!Cooperative Sheep wrote:I absolutely trust that - you should place a vote so the rest of town can sheep you.
Btw I'm guessing when you say sheep said something town wouldn't say, you're referring mostly to what Frogger pointed out?-
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Kay, what's your method for choosing a random vote? My process is normally wagon someone, or start a wagon on someone I know/has talked. LUV falls under none of that for you.In post 31, WhemeStar wrote:Nope!-
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I'm not particularly happy that your opinion is basically a non-opinion. As of so far, I've not seen you have a strong opinion on what's going on.In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:
I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
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This is your entire opinion, and it's based off of one post by Uzi. I'm not privy to counting that.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:
Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.-
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ECMitchell, Tarata can I interest you in this wonderful investment called 'avatars'? They're never out of style.
Freedom of speech dictates you can ask whatever you want.In post 140, WhemeStar wrote:
Can I ask if there's any reason you said that? Or if its just you're curiosity as why my vote is on himIn post 27, Aj The Epic wrote:
Have you played with LuV before? Asking for a friend.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:
Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.
The reason is two-fold. First, my understanding of RVS is standard etiquette is to help push wagons early for reactions. This is how you get out of RVS, someone does something funny-looking (i.e. what sheep did). Secondly, specific to Uzi, he's generally lynchbait so I was interested if you knew this coming in. Pushing Uzi right from the start is a really easy scum read and a super easy way to look productive on someone who doesn't necessarily reflect pressure well.
Okay, my current scumreads don't exactly include you but this jump at the end is fucking atrocious. You go from 'let's talk' to voting frogger, who you claim to want to have a discussion with. You're so incredibly nitpicky especially in latter pages about what frogger said and not about what frogger's DONE. Because you attacking doesn't really solve anything Frogger had pushed for the last couple of pages.In post 158, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
It was a serious question asked in a mocking way, if he hadn't answered it would have been very serious - I leave it to you to classify that in your own joke range.In post 119, Naomi-Tan wrote:Okay so.. Let me ask you a simple question; Was your post in question a joke or other wise non-serious post that is NAI?
You swapped me after the pressure on me was relieved, which makes sense in a scum concept of hoping the lynch goes through and you look good for being 'right' and shifting me to a lynch option for later also plays to that potential scum play.In post 121, Terata wrote:Btw Sheep, if I for example Whiteknighted you as scum, what would i gain in then instantly swapping you to a scum lean a bit later after i resisted the wagon? doesn't that kinda negate the pocketing the whiteknighting as scum could've possibly gained?
Could you at least address the point where I called you a misrepper/liar for how you changed up what Lowell said and then attacked me over my reaction to something that wasn't said?In post 122, Fro99er wrote:No.
I don't play this "answer my questions game." If you think that makes me scum for it IDGAF. I don't sit here and do what people tell me to do. That's not how I play so get off your damn high horse with this "I'd like you to do this" bullcrap.
You've already shown me you'll give absurd logic with that avatar retort. I'm not going to go around in circles with you. It helps nobody.
Because I'd love to talk about that.
Vote: Frogger
While we're at it, Hawk is scum. He's sidelining as hell waiting for Frogger to push this lynch through for him. Not sure scumpartners but I think Lowell could be a second.
VOTE: Hawk
Frogger, I'm reading Cooperative sheep as scum if Hawk isn't, but this shit looks like heavy flailing. Other than this:
There's really nothing outside a supposed 'slip' to call scum. And he's also picking up good reads otherwise (lowell/hawk).In post 107, Cooperative Sheep wrote:I generally like Naomi's entrance.
I also am okay with Terata.
That said I would tend to expect one scum amongst Terata, Naomi, and Chaos - just due to not having a town read on him and having one on the other two, I'll call it as Chaos.
I agree with people that are not a fan of Uzi's vote, but find it odd that some of these same people aren't citing Lowell.-
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Yeah but you're still not taking my advice and getting a fucking avatar.
Lowell's RVS vote tipped me off that he wasn't interested in either being part of the Whemestar wagon or was afraid of the attention. Then he hops on (what I think is) an easy mislynch. Same sort of style as Hawk.
Tbh if I was a god this scumteam is Whemestar/Hawk/Lowell because of Lowell's actions, but it could just be avoiding attention.-
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Gerry I'm still interested in:
@Fro99er you and I have got to play more. That was almost exactly what I expected when you voted Chaos. The other thing I'd mention is that Chaos and Sheep have followed me both on Wheme and Hawk, which has been a bit weird considering in each time, this presents the next biggest counterwagon to sheep.In post 335, Aj The Epic wrote:Gerry, do you not have any opinions on who's scum now that your earlier wagon is somewhat contestable?
Hawk-Lowell and Chaos-Sheep have both shown patterns of following each other a bit more than I'd be comfortable with thus far. And uh...
????In post 355, Lowell wrote:AJ. The only real, strong townread I have in this game. His calling out hawk posts are spot on, and he's in general a good kind of lurker. The one that shows up, is right, then leaves.
This is my most recent substantive post...
Uhhhhhhhh what the fuck do I say about this?In post 220, Aj The Epic wrote:Yeah but you're still not taking my advice and getting a fucking avatar.
Lowell's RVS vote tipped me off that he wasn't interested in either being part of the Whemestar wagon or was afraid of the attention. Then he hops on (what I think is) an easy mislynch. Same sort of style as Hawk.
Tbh if I was a god this scumteam is Whemestar/Hawk/Lowell because of Lowell's actions, but it could just be avoiding attention.-
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No opinion on:WhemeStar wrote:I feel like this game is froggy vs sleepy, and I'm not sure on what to say about it.
Lowell and my interactions
CO and Frogger's interactions
Sheep's response to it
Gerrygoat in general
Lowell on ECM and Naomi
There's a circus going on and you're just focusing on the last act.-
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Ya know, the logical fucking progression is "I scumread someone else harder"In post 563, ECMitchell wrote:
Yet your vote remains elsewhere, because...?In post 562, Aj The Epic wrote:Are you stupid? I'm currently scumreading Wheme and have been vocal about it. My intention was to explain the lack of help.-
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Oh we playing this game? Because I got another good example.In post 567, ECMitchell wrote:@Lowell, by the way, the bold text is an example of someone "flipping their shit" over nothing.
Jaja talk about preemptive shit flipping.ECMitchell wrote:
"Look at what I could be doing but am not!"In post 556, Aj The Epic wrote:TBH if I was scum, I'd be taking advantage of Wheme floundering for as much town points as I can get
What's the point of you saying this? Are you legitimately saying you should be seen as more town for this?
I'm still comfortable lynching Wheme. In their claim though it looks like the role name was copied and pasted, including the extra period and all. Intentionally formatted that way? Would copying from the role PM like that even be allowed?-
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So the fact that you two both decided to beat a dead sheep was a part of it. The second is that Lowell's posture after I stated this was to say you're scummy but not as scummy as Sheep (as seen by his vote and only FOS on you). Last, you do have a tendency to defend him subtly, specifically in your case vs sheep when you talk about cooperation and shit. And of course you being really into Wheme being town hasn't been that helpful in dissuading my feelings on this. Lowell won't even give a read on Wheme.In post 619, Hawk wrote:Also I don't see associative things between me and Lowell that AJ was pointing out... like maybe we were on similar wagon's around similar times but that's all?
Definitely can't say that I understand how committal you are on Lowell. To me, he's pretty cut and dry.
VOTE: Lowell
I will admit though I'm more confident on him being scum. He's blatantly just going for big wagons.
Also, Terata's actions recently are suspect. He actually has Gerry down twice in his reads, null and weak town. He's reading Lowell as town... On the same level of his read on me which is unequivocally garbage. And his Chaos read being scum leans is definitely FOTM rather than actual belief. My belief is he's trying to gauge some reads off of other people and is a bit behind on trends.
I want Fro99er to tell me what about Lowell/Terata's vote switches made him comfortable following that. I know you townread Terata but Lowell looks like a freelancer willing to lynch anyone BUT Wheme at this point.
P-edit: Yeah I don't know if terata is out of his league vs ECMitchell or that's just strong town mitchell but Terata's definitely not winning this argument.-
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Flavor of the month/moment.
Funny how everything you disagree with is 'shading'. Stop using a buzzword incorrectly. ECM is making points that you don't have good answers for. Specifically:
In your most recent post, you've still yet to show an example of what you're seeing here.In post 625, ECMitchell wrote:
Agreed, there's a difference there. But that's not what you accused me of doing in your post. "Doesn't feel drive to solve," is an entirely different statement from "is trying too hard to appear like he's solving."In post 622, Terata wrote:there's a difference (a big one) between trying to appear to solve, which is the feeling im getting from you, and not caring at all, which is Gerry. And i don't have a problem with the fact you're scum reading me. But that a big part of why you're scum reading me is w/w with Wheme, is insane in a bad way
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Fro99er I don't know how to get you to vote Lowell, as he is clearly scum. Dude's had 0 traction on a wagon despite being near universally scumread. Honestly, if you're wondering about Hawk's and Wheme's alignment, why lynch Sheep (who they're both voting for). Granted I'm pretty sure Whemestar just is super new rather than scum but like I think the wagon on Wheme is slightly more town (ECM/LuVSlot, maybe even Chaos). I also see no reason my theory about Hawk/Lowell should be discarded at this point even considering their independent actions are hella scummy.-
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Not believe me:
In post 948, Fro99er wrote:
This is me actively resisting the Lowell lynchIn post 946, Alisae wrote:but I want Lowell ;~;
Look at what AJ has posted.
He sees associatives between Lowell, hawk, and Wheme.
You townread hawk, right? Wheme is town and hawk can kind of confirm this somehow.-
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That gerry is being intentionally useless but I don't know enough about him to know if he's always useless.
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What the fuck is a mechanical role... Like mechanical in the way that it has an active night action or mechanical in that it actually affects shit going on?In post 991, Fro99er wrote:Cop or vig would imply Wheme is most likely scum. But they claim that at night by an action
But Hawk said it was mechanical.
So I think I know what he means.-
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I don't enter that way. Y'all are dumb for not lynching Lowell yet and all this other bullshit is standing in the way of stringing up scum.
I've played with Ali twice, once where he had to claim vig and looked like an SK for a while until we got a clear idea of the roles, and the other where he replaced in and looked decently town by PoE but in no part to his own play. I don't think Alisae is scum here, or at least couldn't care less about lynching that slot today.-
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Don't you ever use that read on me because I'll burn you with that belief. Conviction is EASY to fake.In post 1066, Alisae wrote:I'm pushing my scumread.
Garry isn't.
Garry really hasn't made any serious pushes on like, anyone. His pushes lack conviction.
Scum can't fake that kind of conviction.
Garrybote is scum that needs rope.-
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*checks vote*In post 1122, Hawk wrote:AJ do you still want to lynch Lowell?
If lowell flips scum, don't you think I'd have to? Are you honestly not going to lynch him on the grounds of him flipping scum incriminating you?if Lowell flips scum are you intent that I am partners with Lowell?-
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Yeah Aj's a ghost and this is a newfound revelation.In post 1146, Fro99er wrote:scum lurking out the day?-
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Positive enough that I'm not lynching him today.In post 1168, Fro99er wrote:AJ what's your read on Ali?-
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Can we talk about the fact that there are still 4 votes on Wheme even though we have this possible night action? Alisae, Terata, ECMitchell, CO. Oddly, ECM/Terata let their arguments against each other just die.
Also Lowell's reads give him no sustained reason to be voting ECM at this point, especially considering in last interaction, Terata really sucked at arguing against ECM. And Lowell supposedly has more recent scumreads.-
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