In post 315, WhemeStar wrote:I think hawk jumped on the sheep wagon which was a weak slip, him and others jumped on it which makes me suspect them a little bit, which one town wants to lynch? Idc, saw people voting hawk, so I voted himself too because he is also suspicious to me
Was this in response to my earlier post or someone else's?In post 316, WhemeStar wrote:FFS forgot to quote
Naomi asking me why I voted Hawk.In post 325, ECMitchell wrote:In post 315, WhemeStar wrote:I think hawk jumped on the sheep wagon which was a weak slip, him and others jumped on it which makes me suspect them a little bit, which one town wants to lynch? Idc, saw people voting hawk, so I voted himself too because he is also suspicious to meWas this in response to my earlier post or someone else's?In post 316, WhemeStar wrote:FFS forgot to quote
In post 324, ECMitchell wrote:VOTE: WhemeStarIn post 292, WhemeStar wrote:Didn't I already explain it in previous posts? Me explaining the vote would be the same thing I've said in the first couple pages
Here are all your posts from the first few pages:
In post 12, WhemeStar wrote:Your information is out of date, go back to post #9In post 17, WhemeStar wrote:unless your post is a lie about mine being a lie, which makes you a liar, and we should lynch all liars.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 31, WhemeStar wrote:Nope!In post 36, WhemeStar wrote:Hope you get better soon!In post 40, WhemeStar wrote:I don't like him as a rapper.In post 44, WhemeStar wrote:Yah go fro99er you rock!In post 46, WhemeStar wrote:I think we got the joke when you said "baaaaaaaaaad"In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
I'll keep my vote on Uzi.In post 57, WhemeStar wrote:They're* sorry on phoneIn post 63, WhemeStar wrote:I think the push on sheep is weak, and frog made it seem like it was strong to get reactions out of everyoneIn post 67, WhemeStar wrote:What about lil Uzi then?In post 71, WhemeStar wrote:Uzi came in, sheeped a vote on sheep, which put him at L-2, didn't say anything, and then asked someone else to join the wagon. Which would put sheep at L-1. #Post 52 BTW. So yes, I do have a reason to think he is suspicious. If you want to talk about the other two people, their complaining about a slip, without a slip being there, a good scum won't slip, but scum would make it seem like people made a slip.In post 72, WhemeStar wrote:Fire gimme a medal for solving the game already, thanks.It wasn't until Post 56, when you had a vote placed against you, that you really offered up anything substantial. That post, however, is the only one I can find that even remotely links your suspicion to Hawk, and you have yet to elaborate on it at all, despite joining in with others on the Hawk vote and despite explicitly being asked to clarify your reasoning in Post 241. Anything you can add to expound on your suspicion would be helpful.In post 74, WhemeStar wrote:Lil Uzi, I have no problem with them, but its okay to be suspicious of the people who put them at L-2, wouldn't you be suspicious of someone hammering a wagon? Where's the cutoff point on the wagon. I thought it generated good discussion too, froggy got the reactions from people that he wanted.
You expect me to be on Lil Uzi, but I don't really care who Im on, because I have suspicion on all 3 of them almost equally. So if the rest of the town thinks its Hawk I'm fine with voting Hawk too. Ill go In more detail in a couple of mins, folding laundry right now.In post 241, ECMitchell wrote:pect you to still be on Lil Uzi, considerin
I feel this game is just sheep/froggy arguing with each other, and I think their both town. I like the way sheepy defended himself and how froggy pushed him. They are still both town reads for me. Honestly I am behind, trying to catch up more and more but than more and more pages are getting added, which is why I'm really only responding to things being asked towards me, trying to catch up though. And ill hopefully have more reads soon.In post 331, Terata wrote:Wheme, you really think who was on Sheep at the time is the by far most Alignment telling thing that's happend so far? you have no read on other things like actual game-solving done?
WHat did you think about lil's case on sheep a page ago or so. What do you think about me. and what did you think about my #311 about you?
All the other stuff is though.In post 333, gerryoat wrote:I dont think the sheep 'slip' thing is enough to lynch him today btw
Voting with someone is adding something to that person. We're debating semantics now.In post 323, Terata wrote:sheeping isn't cooperation tho. the "COOP"-part implies there's TWO parties COOPERATING back and forth. 1 sheeping another isn't cooperation if you're not adding anything (i guess you're technically adding to the situation that you agree with what was said initally, but that isn't an effective way of cooperating anyway).
Tip to sheep: When you've written up a post, take out all the quotes you can, and shorten it down to like 1 paragraph of Summary for others to read. Will help a lot
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So this post of mine looks scripted according to you, because my questions seem to only be looking for contradictions and unexplained progressions. I think your hangup on this is really dumb, but that's more of a theory squabble, and I don't feel like getting into that. Let's look at part of my post here and one of your posts later:In post 283, Terata wrote:this post reads very scripted/forced to me, and the only time he goes into a little bit of a deeper analysis is when he's comparing something to a past game, which is something that's easy to talk about when you're scum because it's something you believe in and can give your true thoughts on. Also looking for contradictions/unexplained progressions more than i'd like. I think that's sometimes a mafia trait too, because it's a simple thing to look for/push on.In post 282, ChaosOmega wrote:fro99er:Just wanted a response from you so I could engage with WhemeStar more. I assumed your push was genuine, and it seems like I was right. Scroll down this post to see a continuation of this thought!In post 123, Fro99er wrote:You are curious to see my own take on my own push?
I think sheep is scum. I see zero reason for sheep to come in and make a jump in logic like that just to say something like "is it going to be difficult to work with you" when I got absolutely zero of that from lowell's post.
It was purely a jump in logic to throw shade.
In post 123, Fro99er wrote:As for the slip, I can see what gerry is talking about. I try to find those kinds of slips EVERY game, and Chaos I know you do at least at times as you did in MAFICEPTION with Pepto (which i then seized on and tied Titus to that slip so we for sure had two scum nailed down from it). I find slip resistance (as Titus did) more scummy than pointing out a slip, in general, although it's not a hard and fast tell.Yes, I look for slips, and yes, I get the jist of why people think this about Sheep. It just doesn't read that way to me. The Pepto one you're referring to from Mafiaception was blatant. He voted a big wagon stressing a bunch of caution, got called on his weakness, and responded he doesn't want a mislynch. Definition of a slip. The Sheep slip is just parsing something a certain way. I read it as "Oh, you're confirmed town? Well, your highness, you should place a vote so the rest of the town can follow you." It's not similar to the Pepto one at all to me, at least.In post 127, Fro99er wrote:Here's Chaos pointing out a slip: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7396328
"Like he knows Mario is town"
That's what a I get from reading Sheeps post is that it looks "like he knows Gerry is town"
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WhemeStar:So this has been proven wrong. frogger believes the strength of his push on Sheep. Since you think the push is weak, does this change your read of frogger at all?In post 63, WhemeStar wrote:I think the push on sheep is weak, and frog made it seem like it was strong to get reactions out of everyone
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Hawk:Is LUV still a bigger scumread for you at this point?In post 246, Hawk wrote:At the time I was leaning him yespecially. Now yeah pretty much since all his posts till now have been the definition of insanity.In post 109, ChaosOmega wrote: Hawk: Do you currently have a scumread of Sheep?
In your short readlist before this, you said frog was town and Sheep was scummy. Does frog not gain suspicion for being a main contributor to what you called "5 pages of fluff"?In post 239, Hawk wrote:After that I'd like to point out all the problems I have with sheep and frogs argument that's spanned all day today and added 5 pages of fluff.
Scummiest post of the game thus far to me
In post 282, ChaosOmega wrote:WhemeStar:So this has been proven wrong. frogger believes the strength of his push on Sheep. Since you think the push is weak, does this change your read of frogger at all?In post 63, WhemeStar wrote:I think the push on sheep is weak, and frog made it seem like it was strong to get reactions out of everyone
At a glance, this would make you seem like a giant fucking hypocrite. Are you scum, bad at mafia, or is there something I'm missing here?In post 311, Terata wrote:Wheme, you said early you liked Frog for overblowing the "weak" (as you called it) push on Sheep and searching for reactions. Did your read on Frogg change anything when you got to know Frogg's push was geniune and not simply a push for reactions. As you said he's still a townread i would assume no? so did he do something else you liked or did it still deserve a townread from you for pushing something you called "weak"?
Liar.In post 344, gerryoat wrote:Look forward to it
Would have been better if you had phrased it properly. Dunno what you're trying to say - understand the underlying meaning though, with "or of your..."In post 347, Fro99er wrote:Finally came or of your scumchat to just throw up a readslist with no explanation?