Mini Normal 1879 Bringer Mafia II [Game Over]

[Unknown1234]

Her buddying was pretty shit and the fact that she wants to lynch someone claiming a PR by saying "it doesn't make you Town" seems desperate.

Did you even read the case?

Oh, my bad. I forgot to add the word "slip" to every one of my lines because you mention it way too often.

Your argument is attacking personality, not scumminess. Explain to me why "you're wrong" is scummy at all because I'm fairly confident that's how Gerry plays.

[Alisae]

You're literally attacking the weakest point?
Fine by me.
Saying "You're wrong" is scummy because he's not making the effort to try to rebut the case, just discredit it completely.

[Aj The Epic]

Can we stop getting sidetracked by stupid shit? My only experiences with Alisae is him looking lowkey like scum regardless.

[gerryoat]

Alisae you've played with me as scum before. Was I acting amy thing like you said?

[gerryoat]

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[Alisae]

what are you even asking?
To compare you're play here to your scum game in a mini where Cloudie caught you N1 and then later your scumbuddy cuz you fucked up your NK and killed me instead of him?

[gerryoat]

That has nothing to do with day 1 there and here. That's why I think you're scum, you're being irrational

[Alisae]

wtf how am I being irrational?
That's a reach dude.

[gerryoat]

By dodging the question and not answering. What does that have to do with day 1

[Alisae]

You dodged my question in 1001 and you blatantly just called me scum flat out.

[Alisae]

If anything YOU are the one that's being irrational

[Alisae]

And dude, I have no idea what you're even asking.

[Unknown1234]

You're literally attacking the weakest point?
Fine by me.
Saying "You're wrong" is scummy because he's not making the effort to try to rebut the case, just discredit it completely.

Don't attack the playstyle, because that's not what makes somebody scum. This player is being a complete moron if he's PR but it's been consistent in his personality all game. You can't pick out one part of his personality and label it as scummy but not the rest.

Also, you wouldn't say "Fine by me" because if I'm not understanding what you're saying or missing something, you would want to actually show me that I'm wrong instead of just pushing it aside.

[Unknown1234]

Can we stop getting sidetracked by stupid shit? My only experiences with Alisae is him looking lowkey like scum regardless.

Why do you just enter like you've been here the entire time and "try" to stop people from being "sidetracked". What are we being sidetracked from and what do you think we should be focusing on? This is a discussion about suspicions based on Alisae.

Also, what do you mean by "low key scum"? Because to me that sounds like you think they're scum.

[Aj The Epic]

I don't enter that way. Y'all are dumb for not lynching Lowell yet and all this other bullshit is standing in the way of stringing up scum.

I've played with Ali twice, once where he had to claim vig and looked like an SK for a while until we got a clear idea of the roles, and the other where he replaced in and looked decently town by PoE but in no part to his own play. I don't think Alisae is scum here, or at least couldn't care less about lynching that slot today.

[Alisae]

Dude!
That's not playstyle.
And if it even is playstyle, it's bad and they should be wagonned to force them to play better. Garrybote complains about him getting lynched Day 1? Well maybe he should learn to play better and not play like shit.
Shit play =/= Town.
Scum can fake shit play easily.

Also I say that stuff to try to keep myself calm. I do it a lot. Meta me if you insist.

[Alisae]

I'm pushing my scumread.
Garry isn't.
Garry really hasn't made any serious pushes on like, anyone. His pushes lack conviction.
Scum can't fake that kind of conviction.
Garrybote is scum that needs rope.

[Alisae]

If you call playstyle not making any attempt to scumhunt and not being pro-town I give up.

[Fro99er]

Its more because of my role I think I'm more inclined to believe that Wheme being odd night rolestopper is a town role... But I could be wrong. I don't know all the possible roles and combinations universally so it's just spec on the setup.

Do not claim your role. Is your power odd-night?

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I do think Wheme being town is pretty incriminating for Chaos. And I cannot support Chaos' reaction to Wheme's claim

I didn't think I'd have to clarify this, but I've seen so far this game nuance is lost on you. I am a PR that doesn't really jive with a town rolestopper. With Hawk, Gerry, and me all claiming power of some sort, I'm more inclined to believe a rolestopper is scum. It's how I balanced a mini I ran a while back.

Why are we not talking about this more.

Gerry has also hard claimed PR, FWIW

[Alisae]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69859
FA was a town 1-shot rolestopper in this game.

[Alisae]

Frogger what do you specifically want to bring up?

[Aj The Epic]

I'm pushing my scumread.
Garry isn't.
Garry really hasn't made any serious pushes on like, anyone. His pushes lack conviction.
Scum can't fake that kind of conviction.
Garrybote is scum that needs rope.

Don't you ever use that read on me because I'll burn you with that belief. Conviction is EASY to fake.

[Alisae]

Nah AJ we good.

[Fro99er]

Frogger what do you specifically want to bring up?

Chaos is basically CC'ing Wheme

[Alisae]

VOTE: Wheme