Mini Normal 1879 Bringer Mafia II [Game Over]

[WhemeStar]

No. I'm not talking about WK

Ok, ill try not to ask anymore questions since you in a previous post said you don't like answering them.

[Fro99er]

No, that's not what i said.

I said I don't like when people request I answer their questions, and I find that usually comes from scum.

Asking me a question is fine. Doesn't mean I will answer, and it doesn't mean I won't. Especially fib i find it a good o compelling question that helps the game.

You didn't request an answer from me, so no worries.

[gerryoat]

My role is powerful btw. So I don't get lynched today

[Fro99er]

Mine is more powerful

[Firebringer]

ECMitchell replaces nydushermain. Please welcome them to the show.

[Terata]

Frogg, why are you calling me obv town just in passing without any previous mention of me? At which point did you think i became town for you?

[Fro99er]

lmao. too nice/soft to call someone scummy, but tells something to "go die"

jk

Frogg, why are you calling me obv town just in passing without any previous mention of me? At which point did you think i became town for you?

Because you're actively engaging the whole game state and trying to break it down. You're not avoiding anything and you're really transparent with your thought process.

Your analysis doesn't read like an attempt to manipulate, instead you are restating the facts and giving your analysis of those facts rather than jumping to conclusions from things that aren't there.

Scum twist things around, make logical leaps, or illogical conclusions. I'm not seeing one iota of that from you.

[Fro99er]

No idea why that first post quoted

[Cooperative Sheep]

Okay so.. Let me ask you a simple question; Was your post in question a joke or other wise non-serious post that is NAI?

It was a serious question asked in a mocking way, if he hadn't answered it would have been very serious - I leave it to you to classify that in your own joke range.

Btw Sheep, if I for example Whiteknighted you as scum, what would i gain in then instantly swapping you to a scum lean a bit later after i resisted the wagon? doesn't that kinda negate the pocketing the whiteknighting as scum could've possibly gained?

You swapped me after the pressure on me was relieved, which makes sense in a scum concept of hoping the lynch goes through and you look good for being 'right' and shifting me to a lynch option for later also plays to that potential scum play.

No.

I don't play this "answer my questions game." If you think that makes me scum for it IDGAF. I don't sit here and do what people tell me to do. That's not how I play so get off your damn high horse with this "I'd like you to do this" bullcrap.

You've already shown me you'll give absurd logic with that avatar retort. I'm not going to go around in circles with you. It helps nobody.

Could you at least address the point where I called you a misrepper/liar for how you changed up what Lowell said and then attacked me over my reaction to something that wasn't said?

Because I'd love to talk about that.

Vote: Frogger

[Cooperative Sheep]

No, he said he didn't want to sheep the sheep.

That's not what he said;

Because I'm not a sheep, sheep.

He said he didn't sheep.

[Fro99er]

I'd like to lynch Lowell or Hawk right now, with optional secondaries for Chaos and Frogger.

Says the guy voting Wheme.

(Who also failed to point out Wheme did a WK on him as well but also listed Naomi and Terata as one scum between them and Chaos for a supposed WK (and Terata is the most obvtown in the game so far))

Somehow I moved from secondary to primary.

Got it.

[Cooperative Sheep]

Yeah, when you dodged a question about your lie and are acting like on Page 7 that my reads are changing too much and that my vote isn't changing enough it does get a reaction from me, I'll agree.

[Fro99er]

Oh me dodging questions is me being scum. Got it.

[Cooperative Sheep]

Also, apparently me wanting you to discuss your misrep is scummy after you duck it.
Thereby setting up your right to duck any explanation of your actions.
I'm willing to be policy lynched over that if you're lynched next - deal?

[Fro99er]

I never dodge questions as town. Never. (sarcasm for those that don't get it)

[Cooperative Sheep]

Oh me dodging questions is me being scum. Got it.

No - you misrepping and not backing it up is making you scum.
It's similar, but subtly different.

[Cooperative Sheep]

I never dodge questions as town. Never. (sarcasm for those that don't get it)

Do you misrep as town?

[Terata]

Okay so.. Let me ask you a simple question; Was your post in question a joke or other wise non-serious post that is NAI?

It was a serious question asked in a mocking way, if he hadn't answered it would have been very serious - I leave it to you to classify that in your own joke range.

Btw Sheep, if I for example Whiteknighted you as scum, what would i gain in then instantly swapping you to a scum lean a bit later after i resisted the wagon? doesn't that kinda negate the pocketing the whiteknighting as scum could've possibly gained?

You swapped me after the pressure on me was relieved,

which makes sense in a scum concept of hoping the lynch goes through and you look good for being 'right'

and shifting me to a lynch option for later also plays to that potential scum play.

No.

I don't play this "answer my questions game." If you think that makes me scum for it IDGAF. I don't sit here and do what people tell me to do. That's not how I play so get off your damn high horse with this "I'd like you to do this" bullcrap.

You've already shown me you'll give absurd logic with that avatar retort. I'm not going to go around in circles with you. It helps nobody.

Could you at least address the point where I called you a misrepper/liar for how you changed up what Lowell said and then attacked me over my reaction to something that wasn't said?

Because I'd love to talk about that.

Vote: Frogger

- I call you scum
- you say my upside as scum would be to have been 'right' with your flip

i didn't see the last "slip", but this i could maybe buy lol.

[Cooperative Sheep]

- I call you scum
- you say my upside as scum would be to have been 'right' with your flip

i didn't see the last "slip", but this i could maybe buy lol.

You also called me town - and that was the call I was discussing in my answer to you wherein I outlined why scum would do that.
Make sense now?

[Terata]

i mean, in case you meant i would get cred for being right in the very start when i called you scum wrongly right up to the lynch, that makes no sense either to me.

[Fro99er]

I never dodge questions as town. Never. (sarcasm for those that don't get it)

Do you misrep as town?

No, but I can misunderstand as town. I didn't even read that part of your wall because I am sick of your walls and your demands that I answer you.

Either way, your original logic around Lowell doesn't make sense. If he didn't want to sheep, it does not necessarily imply he would have been ok with voting there had there been zero votes there.

You made a leap in logic to throw shade.

[Cooperative Sheep]

I don't understand your reply there, here's the timeline - you arrive in the game and say this;

I havent played with sheep b4 obv, but he strikes me as a person that would defend himself awkardly as either alignment, so while i think towns could be pinged by his weird wordings, i dont rly think its scummy.

You then attack Uzi (one of my attackers) at this stage, you are effectively WKing me.

Later on, the wagon on me dissolves - at that point you shift your read to a "might be scum" sort of read.

I say that the theory scum plan was to WK (which you did) and then, later, when you realize the wagon won't bull rush through it's viable to have me as a lynch option by seeing how maybe I'm scum (which you also did). That is a coherent comment which is as much of a slip as my last comment called a slip. If something looks weird it's because we're not talking cleanly to each other - not because it's a slip.

[Terata]

i think you should adapt Frogg's approach in this case, Sheep. Show us you can focus on something else than the one you're tunneling with shit thats boring to read. That will help both you and us more than reading whatever you're doing now, which is being salty at Frogg's annoying (to you) playstyle. Something scum and town could do, so we dont get any info.

[Cooperative Sheep]

I never dodge questions as town. Never. (sarcasm for those that don't get it)

Do you misrep as town?

No, but I can misunderstand as town. I didn't even read that part of your wall because I am sick of your walls and your demands that I answer you.

Either way, your original logic around Lowell doesn't make sense. If he didn't want to sheep, it does not necessarily imply he would have been ok with voting there had there been zero votes there.

You made a leap in logic to throw shade.

So you admit you might be misunderstanding me - but your case on me is based on your understanding of my actions, and you don't wish to read my posts nor discuss anything with me?

Here's some shade - if this is how you play as town, it's not good. The very concept of the game is about communication and correctly understanding people to get reads on them. Why are you a proponent of your method instead?

[Terata]

I don't understand your reply there, here's the timeline - you arrive in the game and say this;

I havent played with sheep b4 obv, but he strikes me as a person that would defend himself awkardly as either alignment, so while i think towns could be pinged by his weird wordings, i dont rly think its scummy.

You then attack Uzi (one of my attackers) at this stage, you are effectively WKing me.

Later on, the wagon on me dissolves - at that point you shift your read to a "might be scum" sort of read.

I say that the theory scum plan was to WK (which you did) and then, later, when you realize the wagon won't bull rush through it's viable to have me as a lynch option by seeing how maybe I'm scum (which you also did). That is a coherent comment which is as much of a slip as my last comment called a slip. If something looks weird it's because we're not talking cleanly to each other - not because it's a slip.

i get all this. What i don't get is how i would get cred as scum after me pushing you and you flipping town, just because i was 'right' for a small amount of time in the very start of the day. Get me?