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RVS is great!
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Your information is out of date, go back to post #9
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unless your post is a lie about mine being a lie, which makes you a liar, and we should lynch all liars.In post 15, Fro99er wrote:Lynch all liars.
your post 9 is a lie, obv-
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Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.-
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Nope!In post 27, Aj The Epic wrote:
Have you played with LuV before? Asking for a friend.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:
Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.-
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In post 29, Hawk wrote:Yo, forgive me if I'm not super attentive in RVS. I'm sick IRL and have lower mental function right now from all these meds.
VOTE: sheep
Somebody said something about a slip I want more.
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I don't like him as a rapper.In post 38, Aj The Epic wrote:
Kay, what's your method for choosing a random vote? My process is normally wagon someone, or start a wagon on someone I know/has talked. LUV falls under none of that for you.In post 31, WhemeStar wrote:Nope!-
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In post 45, Hawk wrote:
Is this the slip?In post 22, Cooperative Sheep wrote:I absolutely trust that - you should place a voteso the rest of towncan sheep you.
Sheep has been baaaaaaaaaaaaaad *makes sheep noise when saying Bad*
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I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
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What about lil Uzi then?In post 66, Aj The Epic wrote:
I'm not particularly happy that your opinion is basically a non-opinion. As of so far, I've not seen you have a strong opinion on what's going on.In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:
I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
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Uzi came in, sheeped a vote on sheep, which put him at L-2, didn't say anything, and then asked someone else to join the wagon. Which would put sheep at L-1. #Post 52 BTW. So yes, I do have a reason to think he is suspicious. If you want to talk about the other two people, their complaining about a slip, without a slip being there, a good scum won't slip, but scum would make it seem like people made a slip.In post 68, Aj The Epic wrote:
This is your entire opinion, and it's based off of one post by Uzi. I'm not privy to counting that.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:
Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.-
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Lil Uzi, I have no problem with them, but its okay to be suspicious of the people who put them at L-2, wouldn't you be suspicious of someone hammering a wagon? Where's the cutoff point on the wagon. I thought it generated good discussion too, froggy got the reactions from people that he wanted.In post 65, Hawk wrote:
If nothing else you were the last one to vote him. Also why acknowledge Naomi and no one else who hadn't posted yet?In post 64, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
What was awkward about the way I popped in?In post 62, Terata wrote:I do think the WAY lil popped in was slightly awkward tho.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert here is a start. Gn
@Wheme of the three of us who did you like least? Do you not link early wagons? I think it's getting nice content from Sheep. And generating discussion.-
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Can I ask if there's any reason you said that? Or if its just you're curiosity as why my vote is on himIn post 27, Aj The Epic wrote:
Have you played with LuV before? Asking for a friend.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:
Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 18, Cooperative Sheep wrote:@Lowell - So you would have been okay with the pressure on WhemeStar if you'd thought of it before me? Is that a habit that will carry through the game? Feels like it would make you hard to cooperate with if town.-
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I feel like it was Froggy who pointed out the "slip", not you. Don't really like how you take the credit for it too.In post 136, gerryoat wrote:At least me saying something was a slip got this game moving out of RVS. lmao-
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Why would I be the "almost certainly scum?"In post 144, Fro99er wrote:I will say.
IFI'm wrong on sheep, Wheme is almost certainly scum. They aren't scum together.-
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Are you talking about WK? If so is there a page on the wiki about WK? I've never heard of it, would like to read on it.In post 146, Fro99er wrote:Because you are doing one thing that I find scum do, but in this case it could have been done for a town reason. I don't want to point it out yet to see if it continues.-
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Ok, ill try not to ask anymore questions since you in a previous post said you don't like answering them.In post 149, Fro99er wrote:No. I'm not talking about WK-
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UNVOTE:In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:
I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
I'll keep my vote on Uzi.
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In post 273, Naomi-Tan wrote:
FrogIn post 248, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Huh? Who is this referring to?In post 133, Naomi-Tan wrote:Bleh that return did just what I said I was giving him Green cred for. losing his position in my mind now.
Didn't I already explain it in previous posts? Me explaining the vote would be the same thing I've said in the first couple pagesIn post 272, Naomi-Tan wrote:
Blank votes can go die in a fire. Explain your vote on hawk in 25 words or more.In post 233, WhemeStar wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:
I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
I'll keep my vote on Uzi.
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Naomi asking me why I voted Hawk.In post 325, ECMitchell wrote:In post 315, WhemeStar wrote:I think hawk jumped on the sheep wagon which was a weak slip, him and others jumped on it which makes me suspect them a little bit, which one town wants to lynch? Idc, saw people voting hawk, so I voted himself too because he is also suspicious to me
Was this in response to my earlier post or someone else's?In post 316, WhemeStar wrote:FFS forgot to quote-
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In post 324, ECMitchell wrote:
VOTE: WhemeStarIn post 292, WhemeStar wrote:Didn't I already explain it in previous posts? Me explaining the vote would be the same thing I've said in the first couple pages
Here are all your posts from the first few pages:
In post 12, WhemeStar wrote:Your information is out of date, go back to post #9In post 17, WhemeStar wrote:unless your post is a lie about mine being a lie, which makes you a liar, and we should lynch all liars.In post 25, WhemeStar wrote:Sadly Lil Uzi Vert is too bad to unvote.In post 31, WhemeStar wrote:Nope!In post 36, WhemeStar wrote:Hope you get better soon!In post 40, WhemeStar wrote:I don't like him as a rapper.In post 44, WhemeStar wrote:Yah go fro99er you rock!In post 46, WhemeStar wrote:I think we got the joke when you said "baaaaaaaaaad"In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:
I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
I'll keep my vote on Uzi.In post 57, WhemeStar wrote:They're* sorry on phoneIn post 63, WhemeStar wrote:I think the push on sheep is weak, and frog made it seem like it was strong to get reactions out of everyoneIn post 67, WhemeStar wrote:What about lil Uzi then?In post 71, WhemeStar wrote:Uzi came in, sheeped a vote on sheep, which put him at L-2, didn't say anything, and then asked someone else to join the wagon. Which would put sheep at L-1. #Post 52 BTW. So yes, I do have a reason to think he is suspicious. If you want to talk about the other two people, their complaining about a slip, without a slip being there, a good scum won't slip, but scum would make it seem like people made a slip.In post 72, WhemeStar wrote:Fire gimme a medal for solving the game already, thanks.
It wasn't until Post 56, when you had a vote placed against you, that you really offered up anything substantial. That post, however, is the only one I can find that even remotely links your suspicion to Hawk, and you have yet to elaborate on it at all, despite joining in with others on the Hawk vote and despite explicitly being asked to clarify your reasoning in Post 241. Anything you can add to expound on your suspicion would be helpful.In post 74, WhemeStar wrote:Lil Uzi, I have no problem with them, but its okay to be suspicious of the people who put them at L-2, wouldn't you be suspicious of someone hammering a wagon? Where's the cutoff point on the wagon. I thought it generated good discussion too, froggy got the reactions from people that he wanted.
Post 5-46 are not to be taken seriously. It wasn't because a vote was on me, it was because the person who placed the vote on me asked a question. Which I answered saying that I thought the push on sheep was weak and that Hawk, Lil Uzi, and Gerry, jumped on it because one of them is probably scum.
I still think that Froggy/Sheep are both townies. And at least one of the three I said earlier are scum.-
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You expect me to be on Lil Uzi, but I don't really care who Im on, because I have suspicion on all 3 of them almost equally. So if the rest of the town thinks its Hawk I'm fine with voting Hawk too. Ill go In more detail in a couple of mins, folding laundry right now.In post 241, ECMitchell wrote:pect you to still be on Lil Uzi, considerin-
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I feel this game is just sheep/froggy arguing with each other, and I think their both town. I like the way sheepy defended himself and how froggy pushed him. They are still both town reads for me. Honestly I am behind, trying to catch up more and more but than more and more pages are getting added, which is why I'm really only responding to things being asked towards me, trying to catch up though. And ill hopefully have more reads soon.In post 331, Terata wrote:Wheme, you really think who was on Sheep at the time is the by far most Alignment telling thing that's happend so far? you have no read on other things like actual game-solving done?
WHat did you think about lil's case on sheep a page ago or so. What do you think about me. and what did you think about my #311 about you?-
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I lied, resident evil 7 for an hour or so and then back to mafia! Sorry about my inactiveness guys, this game is going by a lot faster than my newbie game is.In post 365, WhemeStar wrote:Ok, time to get active again, give me 30 mins or so to read everything.-
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My first newbie game was slow, not used to having more contentIn post 387, Terata wrote:games here are so slow, i feel weird about having close to no content-
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Ill try to do this piece by piece, too try and show that I'm trying my best to help out town. Sorry if you prefer me to give my opinions in one big post though.In post 455, Aj The Epic wrote:
No opinion on:WhemeStar wrote:I feel like this game is froggy vs sleepy, and I'm not sure on what to say about it.
Lowell and my interactions
CO and Frogger's interactions
Sheep's response to it
Gerrygoat in general
Lowell on ECM and Naomi
There's a circus going on and you're just focusing on the last act.
Gerrygoat in general has been useless IMO. He hasn't contributed anything to the game (less than me) and I find it suspicious. Only thing he contributed too was saying sheep slipped, and claimed that he was the one who pointed out the slip, but Frogger did IMO. But I don't think mafia would do what gerry is doing, so Im going to say he's null-town
Sheep and Frogger have been going at it all game. At first I thought it was froggy just trying to get reactions out of others, but then it kept going on and on. After reading both of their posts over and over I think sheep is trying to just blame froggy of not reading his posts/answering his questions/misrepping him. Which I think is a scummy move, just asking questions over and over again. I thought sheep's slip wasn't really a slip, but his posts lately have me thinking he is possible scum.
Lowell- I don't like some of his posts, such as iso #2. Where he voted sheep and said "is the slip real? who knows". Seems to me like he didn't have much reason to vote sheep and he didn't really care. I do like his recap on post #355 though. Also said that EC/Naomi flipped when he had a FOS on them, yet I don't see anything that shows them flippinng out. Possible scum.
I find it really strange how Lowell said AJ's posts are spot on and right. Yet in a previous post, AJ said that he thinks Lowell is scum. Is that a slip? I also think that Lowell is wrong on Naomi, she seems genuine town for me, and I will be against a lynch on her for a while.
EC, please get avatar, pls. EC voted me for not explaining my vote on Hawk? Which I thought I did, and I had nothing else to say about it. Used my previous posts as an example of me saying nothing. And said me getting a vote on me is the reason I became substantial. Which was wrong.
If you guys want more or if I missed some things, ask and Ill try to explain best I can.
For now, id like to vote lowell.
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About there, reading the last 2 pages or so, have been ISOing players though.In post 456, Terata wrote:
you're caught up?In post 453, WhemeStar wrote:I feel like this game is froggy vs sleepy, and I'm not sure on what to say about it.-
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I said with gerrry not contributing he could be town because I don't see in any reality where scum doesn't say anything. Because if you do what Gerry is doing than that will bring suspicion to you.
Also, most of my reads are sheeps from other people, I need to work on making my own reads, I'm new. Right now I read the two sides and agreed one one of them. For instance, as you pointed out. Someone else posted nearly the same thing I did with Lowell's ISO #2. And I agree with that person (forgot who). Same thing with AJ and Lowell, After lowell's reads, AJ said "you said Im town for being spot on with my reads, yet i called you scum".-
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Im not trying to paint them as my own thoughts, they haven't. Sorry if it seems that way.In post 461, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Wheme
sheeping Terata's case. It's basically what I was about to say wrt Wheme not having any unique reads but painting them as his own thoughts.
I actually think Wheme is my strongest scumread of the game now, and lord knows I've been all over the place.-
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and then look at the sentence right after. I said i find it suspicious he hasnt been posting, but at the same time would mafia really do that?In post 469, Terata wrote:look a the 2 statements i bolded and be amazed-
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It wasn't meant to be taken seriously, more like a joke post. Look @ the posts before it and the one after it too. Most if not all of them are joke posts.In post 470, Fro99er wrote:
Why did you say this about my case on sheep, if you thought it was weak?In post 44, WhemeStar wrote:Yah go fro99er you rock!-
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Want me to reveal?In post 472, Terata wrote:
basically, im saying you investigating the accuser back usually comes naturally as town, even if it isn't the main pupose of the post, you usually can notice it. I didn't. And scum does that more yes. But nvm that for now, I just caught a scumIn post 465, ECMitchell wrote:
Apologies, but I'm afraid I don't understand at all what you're getting at here. You dislike my post because you feel the emotion in it is too strong against a player I haven't explicitly stated as scum—I trust that's what you mean by "wolf read?" Are you saying that players should only defend themselves against players they feel are scum? And, to confirm, are you saying by the bold text that it's a scum tell to defend yourself before being threatened with action of lynch? If so, you'd be seriously wrong.In post 375, Terata wrote:
this is not a towny response to pressure. Strong emotion without really wolf reading him, just wanting to prove him wrong and get him on another path. This last sentence especially shows he was justIn post 371, ECMitchell wrote:Calling absolute bull on this one. Show me the receipts.
The only person I've "attacked" for filler so far has been Gerroat. I quoted all of WhemeStar's initial posts to prove against their statement that they already explained their vote against Hawk in the first couple of pages—which they really didn't.
Also, the bold text in your quote suggests you see me as a lurker. Care to elaborate on that? Since I've been added as a replacement I've been on top of this game fully.
Now about avoiding conflict, I have two responses to that:
- I'm not. I don't exactly see how calling out two players (Fro99er, Naomi) for their play styles and persisting that a player justifies their vote (WhemeStar) constitutes "avoiding conflict."
- If I was, what exactly would your point be? Avoiding conflict isn't necessarily a bad thing, particularly this early in the game. Right now we're still about deliberation and facilitating discussion. I don't have to be going at people like Fro99er is Cooperative Sheep to advance the game in this stage.
Okay,nowI'm really leaving for the day. Just had to respond to that one.responding, and not doing anything active in terms of solving the player he lashed out on.Simple defense isn't really something towns get super engaged in unless they're really forced to IME,and even in that they constantly consider the pushing person's alignment more than i see this post doing.
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Yes, I do find it suspicious, but why would a scum want to be suspicious?In post 480, Terata wrote:
but then you don't find it suspicious...In post 479, WhemeStar wrote:If you think I'm scum I'm more than happy too. I feel your reaching with post #477. Yes, I find it suspicious that all his posts are useless, but at the same time I don't think that a scum would purposely seem suspicious-
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Your town, I like how your pushing me and other players.In post 494, Terata wrote:
well your read on him is that he's not been solving the game, and wolves wouldn't do that no? that's what i meant.In post 492, WhemeStar wrote:No, it doesn't change my read on him, but what does "he's not solved mean?"
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Forgot about them, I really only had a FOS on them, and in previous pages they haven't said much that gives me a read on them.In post 493, Fro99er wrote:
How come you never tried to push and poke at LUV, Hawk, and Gerry more?In post 56, WhemeStar wrote:
I think their both town, froggy dude pushing him to get reactions out of others. And it worked, which makes me suspect Lil Uzi, Hawk, and Gerryoak.In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: WhemeStar
Wheme, what are your thoughts on Sheep and the quick L-2 wagon on him?
I'll keep my vote on Uzi.
You just were content to be on any one of the three.
You still haven't tried to sort them, just moved over to Lowell. What happened to your read of LUV and Hawk? You've now ruled Gerry null-town, I guess, but not from your own pressure of that spot.-
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Lil Uzi early on, and Chaos.In post 497, Terata wrote:
Which other players specifically?In post 495, WhemeStar wrote:
Your town, I like how your pushing me and other players.In post 494, Terata wrote:
well your read on him is that he's not been solving the game, and wolves wouldn't do that no? that's what i meant.In post 492, WhemeStar wrote:No, it doesn't change my read on him, but what does "he's not solved mean?"
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yes, i also believe I've stated somewhere that I haven't been keeping up and am behind. So I saw people were voting hawk and i voted him too, because my reads haven't yet changed.In post 500, Fro99er wrote:
Except you were still suspecting them on post 330 almost equally, and never did go into more detail.In post 330, WhemeStar wrote:
You expect me to be on Lil Uzi, but I don't really care who Im on, because I have suspicion on all 3 of them almost equally. So if the rest of the town thinks its Hawk I'm fine with voting Hawk too. Ill go In more detail in a couple of mins, folding laundry right now.In post 241, ECMitchell wrote:pect you to still be on Lil Uzi, considerin-
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Sure, I know some for sure reads on town, but give me a second and Ill try to ISO everyone.In post 499, Terata wrote:can you actually give a full reads list. I didn't know you had me town for example. Maybe there are more hidden people in there. you don't have to give more than names if you don't want to, but a few keywords each would be widely appriciated if you have the time-
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Froggy
Naomi
Tereta - Like his posts and his pushes on me and others
AJ - like how he pushes some people like Tereta is, asked questions to get discussion.
EC - FFS get an avatar pls, I like how he pushed me for not explaining in detail with Hawk.
Gerry - Doesn't post much, but I don't think that scum would be so obvious
Lil Uzi - Posts don't contain much but every once in a while he posts something good, like post #287
Hawk - I don't really see where he fell off, can someone help explain that too me?
Chaos - I agree with others saying he tried to derail Sheep's wagon
Penguin - Not much to say with him only having 6 posts.
Sheep- Don't really like how his response to frog was mostey questions, and then called out frog for being scum by not answering said questions.
Lowell - HIs post counteracts itself when he said that he likes AJ because he is a lurker but when he posts his reads are spot on, but AJ called him scum earlier.-
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WhemeStar Survivor
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- Joined: January 15, 2017
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