Mini 1830 - Game Over

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:09 pm

Howdy! It's me! Gamma Emerald!
VOTE: Grendel

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:55 pm

In post 8, Grendel wrote:
In post 5, Gamma Emerald wrote:Howdy! It's me! Gamma Emerald!
VOTE: Grendel
Ohhhh, Is your name Emerald b/c you like Pokémon Emerald?

If so- then awesome. Gen three was bomb.

Yep! Named after the theoretical remake of Emerald.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:47 am

In post 16, gerryoat wrote:
In post 6, eagerSnake wrote:I would post a random vote here, but instead I'll not post a random vote here.
wait aren't you from epicmafia????

Yeah I've seen both of you on EM. Wanna do the study buddy thing, Gerry?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #38 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:14 am

In post 30, eagerSnake wrote:@Grendel Sure. I will give it a try.

@Gerryoat I am eagerSnake on EM.

@Gamma Emerald Who are you on EM?

Same as here, but with no space.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #39 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:17 am

In post 32, eagerSnake wrote:Do we know how many scum we're looking for?

11 players I'm assuming there's a few possibilities here...

3 teamed mafia, 8 town
2 teamed mafia, 1 3rd party (not cult), 8 town
2 teams of 2 mafia, 7 town

I'm betting 3 Mafia, 8 town or 3 mafia, 7 town, and one 3P.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #60 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:01 pm

Well then. Looks like it's my first game all over again. Eager, I don't know what you're thinking, but you're going the wrong path.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #61 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:05 pm

The only thing possibly incriminating is post 39, and that's not even that bad.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #63 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:20 pm

Knowledge of the setup. And you are admitting you have nothing to go on.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #67 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 64, eagerSnake wrote:To me 39 seems like you are part of a 3-man mafia team and possibly worried about a 3rd party. 3 mafia and 1 3rd party wasn't even an option that I was giving as that would be mafia-favored.

Where is the connection?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #69 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:32 pm

I'm pretty sure there is 3 mafia. There could be two, but I don't know because I'm not one.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #76 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:18 am

In post 73, The_Jester wrote:^stop speculating

Snake's quick unvote after being so convinced his target's scum when Gamma didn't even provide much of a defense seems like poor attempt of trying to appear active which I don't like. Could be seen as scum soft pushing scum to distance themselves but it's too early to say. I must commend Snake for his observation though.
@Gamma why would you think your setup spec in 39 is incriminating in Snake's eyes when he's also done the same? The only reason I can think of is you knew you slipped with that 3 mafia thing.

I kept the same scumteam size, so he probably thought I knew how large it was because I was in it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #79 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:39 am

After.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #83 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:23 am

I have Aspergers too, in fact one of the reasons I play this game is to improve my social skills.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #104 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:57 pm

I never backed down, I just forgot to follow through. Also, I have an idea of an extra reason why he did this, but I don't want to mess up his plan if I am right. I guess I'll drop it now though.
PEdit: I was town cop that game. I won't say what I am, but I am not town cop this game.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #108 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:09 pm

Also, about my lower activity: I am currently in 4 games. Not as much time to spend here. I even said in the postgame I would be able to be super active in one game anymore. I don't particularly like the look of your most recent posts either. What were you going to do when you got caught up in our previous game? Because there you never did anything unique.
About being cop: I wanted to confuse the Mafia about me. It sure worked, you NEVER considered me as a PR.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #116 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:40 am

UNVOTE:
I tihnk RVS is winding down.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #118 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:15 am

OHHHHHHHH KAY
Did no one catch this post by CCC?

In post 49, CCC wrote:Newbie games have nine players, two of whom are Mafia. Here we have eleven players.

Three mafia sounds about right to me.

Why did NO ONE call him out for the reasons they called me out?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #120 (isolation #17) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:22 am

???
Only thing I can think of is chainsaw.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #127 (isolation #18) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:43 am

I'm saying I find it a little suspicious, BUT I find the people who called me out but not him MORE suspicious.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #141 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:34 am

I really don't understand that bit about the random post holding up. Could you explain a little more, Eager?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #144 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:31 am

I'm saying that you didn't do a special thing like you tried to do in this game. I understand I beat you to RQS, but STILL.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #147 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:42 am

I was not pinged, I was defending myself. I do townread you for it. I may throw together a reads list sometime today.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #156 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:54 am

Yo, I'm currently reading postgame stuff for another game, so don't expect me to post for a while.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #157 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:22 am

Okay I'm finished with the other stuff now.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #159 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:56 am

My Reads-
Town:

VictorDiAngelo

- His posting style is pretty refreshing, and after looking over his ISO, that comment about statements holding up isn’t that bad.

Grendel

- As said before, he doesn’t do this as scum, but he’s only been scum once on both sites he plays on, so I may be way off base here. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Manuel87

- He seems to be playing honestly.

Gerryoat

- He has been a voice of reason so far for this game.
Scum:

RhazhBash

- hasn’t really posted anything of substance other than 135, I feel.

CCC

- I mentioned the part about him being consistent on scumteam size as well, but here’s the interesting part: he attacked me for my comments about it. Got anything to say for yourself, bud?

EagerSnake

- He seems to be deflecting what people say quite a bit.
Null:

TheJester

- I’ve seen a mixture of Eager’s deflecting and Gerry’s being the voice of reason in this one.
Insufficient Participation:

GreenNope

- hasn’t posted once.

SquareWorld

- only posted twice, and they were small.

With all of this in mind, I think I know who I want to vote for.
VOTE: CCC

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #164 (isolation #25) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:46 pm

Okay.
Null - Gerry (seems reasonable, but hasn't really added much yet.)

I mainly said that because he diffused everyone's getting up in arms about your reads.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #166 (isolation #26) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:11 pm

I realized you had a point.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #171 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:50 pm

In post 170, Grendel wrote:
Grendel wrote:You are avoiding conflict with me.

Why?
idk man, I just feel like you've been tip toeing around me most this game. Your also not trying to fight my scum read on you. I just don't expect this passiveness from you if you were town. Yet... you are in a lot of games... so I can't really tell if your too stretched to bother. eeeehhhhh-

I am kinda stretched, but I'm also putting precedence in games I feel are more pressing. This one is kinda on the low end, but it's not on the bottom.

[qoute]Going off you read list your proposing a RhazbashxCCCxSnake scum team. Is their any chemistry between them going off their posts this game?.[/quote]
Not sure about RhazhBash, but both Eager and CCC attacked me for my attempt at setup spec.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #172 (isolation #28) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:05 pm

Looking over RhazhBash's ISO again, I found something that I feel could be distancing between RhazhBash and EagerSnake, with an attempt to attack me as well.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #174 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:11 pm

In post 87, RhazhBash wrote:The page 3 stuff between Snake and Gamma is 100% fluff. I don't see how Victor can be scumreading snake for it either. Regardless I don't see it as alignment indicative.

Also a huge pet peeve of mine is when people waste too much time on setup spec. Setup spec won't win Town the game, so quit it and start posting some real content.

Grendel, this is what I was talking about. It's a strange way to distance, to be sure, but it kinda looks like distancing. And I do acknowledge that he mentioned me too, but that could have been an attack on me, or an attempt to group me in with Eager.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #177 (isolation #30) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:12 pm

I was primarily referring to the calling of our conversation about setup spec fluff.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #180 (isolation #31) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:58 pm

I think your post was worse because you ONLY stated that there was likely 3 mafia, without branching out into other bits of speculation. And I never said it HAD to be a Serial Killer. A Lyncher or Survivor would be perfectly fine.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #182 (isolation #32) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:02 pm

In post 181, CCC wrote:
In post 161, Grendel wrote:
In post 152, CCC wrote:
Also, what do you mean by "self-metaing"?
In the post right after 121 you referenced how you math in other games. And I think you did it a couple other times this game to. By "it" I mean you have said, "Well I do that all the time so its not AI" in response to accusations. I don't like that because it doesn't refute the argument so much as it lampshades it. Lamp shading a problem doesn't make it go away. Saying you do something as either alignment doesn't make you town.
...let me rephrase that then. I wasn't trying to say "Well I do that all the time so its not AI". I was trying to say "Well, that's how I play as Town".

I don't have a good idea of how I play as scum yet. All of the completed games I've been in, I've been Town.

Well in my last game with Grendel, it was the same for him. I don't think Grendel is scum this time, but I DEFINITELY think you are.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #185 (isolation #33) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:11 pm

In post 184, CCC wrote:
In post 182, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well in my last game with Grendel, it was the same for him. I don't think Grendel is scum this time, but I DEFINITELY think you are.
Believe it or not, this fits my Town meta too. Every game I've ever been Town in, I got lynched day one.

(This may be why I think so little of day one lynches).

Say what now? You don't think much of Day 1 lynches? Well I do. You can't throw simply rule out the Day 1 lynch, that's crazy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #186 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:15 pm

In post 183, CCC wrote:
In post 180, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think your post was worse because you ONLY stated that there was likely 3 mafia, without branching out into other bits of speculation. And I never said it HAD to be a Serial Killer. A Lyncher or Survivor would be perfectly fine.
No, I said three
scum
. That could be three mafia (and likely is), or it could be two mafia and a serial killer.

Your original post (and now this post supports that) look like you know there's three mafia, and are speculating about what else there might be.

Well I'm sorry for misinterpreting your post. And I pretty much know there are 3 mafia, because it's a 11 person game. Having a Serial Killer is like having an Independent Vigilante who has to eliminate everyone, not just the mafia. I also assume that because I don't want to have to worry about thinking we're safe to mislynch and then whoops, one extra mafia then I thought, we lose! I chose the logical maximum to account for that.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #202 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:43 am

In post 49, CCC wrote:Newbie games have nine players, two of whom are Mafia. Here we have eleven players.

Three mafia sounds about right to me.

CCC, you said MAFIA here, not SCUM.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #211 (isolation #36) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:03 pm

@Gerry: I think I'd like to do the same thing Grendel and Eager are doing, if that's okay with you?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #215 (isolation #37) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:47 pm

Okay.

Manuel87

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #219 (isolation #38) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:21 pm

@Grendel: CCC has been scumreading me, and he's been pushing it too, though mostly in his defense.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #222 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:42 pm

About RhazhBash:
I feel like he's not really adding to much to the conversation. His most recent post was to defend himself against an accusation. This makes me think he could be scum.
(By the way, I don't really do multiquote megaposts)

CCC

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #267 (isolation #40) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:55 am

Yeah, I'm still scumreading CCC, but Square has been very bad recently
VOTE: Square World

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #270 (isolation #41) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:06 am

What the hell? It feels like Square forot to quote the post his second part was referring to.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #307 (isolation #42) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:48 pm

@Gerry: I would like your opinion on CCC still, and would also like thoughts on Square World.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #320 (isolation #43) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:58 am

Why would that make you vote him?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #323 (isolation #44) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:38 am

I'm curious specifically about why the part he bolded looked scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #338 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:33 am

Okay, so you townread Jester and scumread Manuel. How about sharing some more reads?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #349 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:17 am

You don't

have

to interact with someone to assess them.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #354 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:39 am

I was pointing out the error in your logic, defending her was just part of that. I'm a little curious about why Huntress scumreads me, but I don't really think that was something I had to say out loud.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #356 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:48 am

Well it's not common if you didn't get it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #360 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:55 am

Why do you think someone has to interact with someone to assess them? I don't think that's true because just because someone never spoke with you doesn't mean they never spoke.
PEdit: YOU TOLD ME TO DEFEND MYSELF. YOU ARE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #363 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:01 am

I figured she'd explain it later. I didn't think I needed to ask.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #366 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:08 am

Well you can also see the why from other people's interactions. I guess I did cause this tangent, though. And I wasn't whiteknighting. That was a byproduct of my initial intention.
PEdit: I figured she'd explain it later because

that's what people do: explain their reads

.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #369 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:12 am

My initial intention was to say "that's not entirely necessary" about interacting with people before assessing them.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #370 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:13 am

NO, part of making reads is explaining them, regardless of someone asking.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #372 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:21 am

Well NORMALLY people do it. I figured she just hadn't gotten there.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #375 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:30 am

And this means...?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #377 (isolation #56) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:33 am

Okay. I'll drop it then.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #398 (isolation #57) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:19 pm

It seems everyone decided to go my way and just decide there's 3 mafia. Interesting.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #400 (isolation #58) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:20 pm

That's how I justified myself though.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #402 (isolation #59) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:28 pm

Okay. I'd like to hear what CCC has to say though.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #405 (isolation #60) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:30 pm

Because I thought it was unnecessary.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #407 (isolation #61) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:38 pm

Thank you for the suggestion. I will do that from now on.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #410 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:48 pm

CCC: He was hypocritical about the scumteam size. I don't really scumread him as much as I did, but it's still there.
Square: when he started posting after my initial reads list, his posts didn't feel like they were coming from town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #424 (isolation #63) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:16 am

Okay. I'll consider the possibility of 2 mafia from now on.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #426 (isolation #64) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:54 am

Which one?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #428 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:04 am

Square seems to be trying to doubtcast pretty much everyone. I've noticed he did this to people attacking Rhazh(the one before you int your slot) quite a bit.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #433 (isolation #66) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:02 am

In post 430, House wrote:
In post 428, Gamma Emerald wrote:Square seems to be trying to doubtcast pretty much everyone. I've noticed he did this to people attacking Rhazh(the one before you int your slot) quite a bit.
Is skepticism scummy?

No, but his manner of doing it feels scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #435 (isolation #67) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:59 am

And no one ended up feeling I was town in the end, to be truthful. Just saying.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #445 (isolation #68) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:13 pm

About why: Because as you stated Huntress, you haven't had time.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #447 (isolation #69) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:26 pm

I assumed it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #450 (isolation #70) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:28 pm

@Huntress: Because you were catching up.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #457 (isolation #71) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:14 pm

In post 453, Huntress wrote:
In post 449, eagerSnake wrote:I don't like this opening at all. It feels like just stalling and trying to avoid suspicion. The questions feel weak, and I don't see where their line of questioning is going either. They didn't have any questions at all for CCC, who they ended up voting for, and who is supposedly their top scumread. Nor any questions for House's slot, or Gamma's slot, who they also are supposedly scumreading. The only question for me was stuff from RVS which is weak.
The questions were there to fill in some gaps for me, that's all. I would have followed a couple of them up but House beat me to it, so I left it for the moment. I didn't need to ask CCC anything as I'd already seen enough to give me a scum read on him. The whole thing is a work in progress and I'll ask questions when I need to. I see no point in asking about stuff that's previously been discussed at length when I've already read the results of that discussion. Why would you want me to when it would just clutter up the thread?

Sentence 3 proves what I was telling House about having to interact with people to assess them: unless there's something that only directly engaging with someone can resolve, direct engagement is not necessary.

In post 450, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Huntress: Because you were catching up.
I had caught up by then.

Okay then.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #468 (isolation #72) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:35 pm

I want to vote CCC, but I feel locked in. Whatever.
VOTE: CCC

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #480 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:58 pm

What specifically is a boring?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #485 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:04 pm

In post 483, eagerSnake wrote:I should note that House is aggressively defensive about his case on CCC.

If CCC flips town and I die he should be looked at with impunity.

This is quite silly. If CCC is town, then he knows not to kill you.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #569 (isolation #75) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:14 am

In post 568, House wrote:
In post 566, Manuel87 wrote:Also Offtopic: i tried to kilck the "Get to know House." link but it said i am not authorised to read this Forum
Idk why, it works fine for me.

You need permission to access GTKAS topics. @Manuel87 How old are you?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #581 (isolation #76) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:38 pm

Grendel could you expand on your scumreads?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #583 (isolation #77) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:58 pm

Well you've never really asked me anything beyond when you first declared your scumread on me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #585 (isolation #78) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:21 pm

In post 584, Grendel wrote:Okay, so tomorrow I'll quote the times I asked you things, and point out how short and Non-ai you kept all your responses. Why are you now playing up the idea that I'm somehow not as invested in this game as I should be?

Sounds like you're projecting.

No, I'm sure you're invested, and you should know how I know.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #586 (isolation #79) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:35 pm

Okay you're just going to throw shade and leave then.

FOS Grendel

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #587 (isolation #80) » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:05 pm

I checked, and I didn't see an unanswered questions.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #598 (isolation #81) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:19 am

In post 595, CCC wrote:Gamma: What are your reads at the moment? I don't think you've yet given a complete list.

I did. I may have to revise it though.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #599 (isolation #82) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:34 am

Town-
Grendel: I don't see anything that goes against his town play yet.
House: I like how he questioned me when I said the thing about interacting to assess.
Victor: My read on him hasn't really changed that much.
Manuel: Has been asking good questions that I don't feel scum would ask.
Gerry: Asking good questions, and he also diffused the argument around Grendel's reads.
Scum-
Square World: I don't like how empty his posts feel.
CCC: All the reasons I've stated before, plus House has presented an excellent case.
Eager: Some of his recent posts have felt really off to me.
Null-
Jester: Where did he go?
Huntress: I like where she is going, but I haven't really seen anything to indicate alignment.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #603 (isolation #83) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:01 am

Distancing/Buddying

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #607 (isolation #84) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:39 am

In post 605, Manuel87 wrote:
In post 603, Gamma Emerald wrote:Distancing/Buddying
no if i wanted to distance myself from him i would voted him what good does pointing out one minor detail do in form of distancing?
I dont see how this would help me buddy someone can you explain why you would think like that?

I meant Bussing, not buddying.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #628 (isolation #85) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:29 am

In post 627, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 626, Manuel87 wrote:CCC voted him way earlier and explained it was to get him to talk so its very different from what you did.
You might want to look at why I voted Square again.

In post 238, eagerSnake wrote:@Square World can you explain your reads in a bit more detail?

In post 240, Square World wrote:
In post 238, eagerSnake wrote:@Square World can you explain your reads in a bit more detail?
no

In post 242, eagerSnake wrote:VOTE: Square World

Well I'm not going to allow an environment where scum can active lurk and post just short of prodges and not have to explain anything. We already have enough of that going on.
How is my reasoning not the same as CCC's?

In fact that was part of my reasoning as well.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #635 (isolation #86) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:47 am

In post 574, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 571, gerryoat wrote:
In post 493, eagerSnake wrote:Your case does bring up a lot of valid points.
If his case brings up a lot of points, how come you want house to be lynched if CCC flips town? I mean, it's possible for town to mislynch someone here. Not everyone can be 100% in their reads. But, if the reads make sense, what is the problem?
I never said to blindly lynch House if CCC flips town.. I said to look at House with impunity.

This is one that I don't like. What does "look with impunity" mean?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #636 (isolation #87) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:48 am

About Manuel: Didn't he JUST vote eager?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #653 (isolation #88) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:07 am

OMG THE FOS COUNT IS REAL
GRENDEL DO YOU SEE THIS

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #657 (isolation #89) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:15 am

Just because I find one thing suspicious doesn't mean I scumread you.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #684 (isolation #90) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:30 pm

I have realized that flip-floppy voting may be a sign of towniness.
Still not doing it because I'm happy with my vote right now. I only really flip-flop if I don't like my current vote.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #686 (isolation #91) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:41 pm

In post 685, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 684, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have realized that flip-floppy voting may be a sign of towniness.
Voting, bandwagoning, and/or changing your mind are not alignment indicative actions.

I mainly said it due to Grendel's concerns.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #693 (isolation #92) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:45 pm

The tag is a safety measure. I can remove it if you'd like.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #696 (isolation #93) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:47 pm

Great now I want to change my vote. Whatever.
VOTE: Square World

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #703 (isolation #94) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:02 pm

Striking NAI ones, commenting on plainly wrong ones.

Spoiler:

The list goes on.[/quote]
Yeah no. Try again.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #704 (isolation #95) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:02 pm

I probably missed some, too.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #711 (isolation #96) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:16 pm

Thanks Snake. You're on my would lynch list, but that explanation helped you quite a bit.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #716 (isolation #97) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:32 pm

I'd like to add more to points 3 and 6.
@3: There's this role on EpicMafia called Oracle that reveals a persons role if the Oracle is killed. I've seen an Oracle get lynched intentionally Day 1, although since it was Daystart forum mafia, the role had to be modified to work Day 1.
@6: So the "changing claims" thing can only really happen in a closed setup. Okay.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #721 (isolation #98) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:20 pm

In post 720, House wrote:
In post 716, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'd like to add more to points 3 and 6.
@3: There's this role on EpicMafia called Oracle that reveals a persons role if the Oracle is killed. I've seen an Oracle get lynched intentionally Day 1, although since it was Daystart forum mafia, the role had to be modified to work Day 1.
@6: So the "changing claims" thing can only really happen in a closed setup. Okay.
This is not EM.

Advice for EM is not relevant here.

It was a proof of concept post.
Scumnotch +1 for House for that rather tasteless and pointless nitpick.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #785 (isolation #99) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:55 am

I agree mostly with Eager on Square, but I don't like his flooding of the game.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #788 (isolation #100) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:16 am

Can you quote where Square did this?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #790 (isolation #101) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:27 am

Okay. I don't really see a problem with it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #792 (isolation #102) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:31 am

I assumed what other people were doing, not that people could follow my logic.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #798 (isolation #103) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:06 am

In post 793, eagerSnake wrote:Which is worse?

I don't know. It's probably different from person to person. I guess mine is worse because I'm projecting what I think happened when I can't be sure.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #804 (isolation #104) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:22 am

@Mod: can we get a VC?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #806 (isolation #105) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:16 am

Well I'm feeling better about Square now, so:
VOTE: Manuel87

Gamma Emerald · Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:21 pm

In post 818, Grendel wrote:Actually on the other forum Gamma and I played mafia on scum love to bus. The possibility of Gamma as scum bussing his partner here isn't unrealistic.

VOTE: Manuel

I tried to get my team to not bus Day 5. You need to rethink that bit.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #830 (isolation #107) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:23 pm

In post 827, Grendel wrote:
In post 821, Huntress wrote:But why would he bus when he could just have voted for eagle or left his vote on square?
Like I said, where he came from scum will bus at the drop of a hat. A lot of times in situations where they really didn't have to.

Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 818, Grendel wrote:Actually on the other forum Gamma and I played mafia on scum love to bus. The possibility of Gamma as scum bussing his partner here isn't unrealistic.

VOTE: Manuel
I tried to get my team to not bus Day 5. You need to rethink that bit.

Okay so you were adverse to it at first, but you did give in and bus out of fear of associatives, and plus some encouragement in your PT. It doesn't lead me to think you were adverse to the concept itself. More like you were nervous about losing a scum PR then anything.

Ugh, Do you have any documented discussions where you out right said you don't like bussing?

I never said it, but I did feel our team got torn apart by bussing. That was my main problem: we had lost the point of bussing. There's actually an article on the wiki expressing my sentiments on how exactly we went wrong.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #858 (isolation #108) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:55 pm

I can officially say that neither House nor Eager is a Desperado. Carry on.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #865 (isolation #109) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:14 pm

Bleh, I'm hoping this is a Town v Mafia argument, that way once Day 2 rolls around this can blow over because one of you will likely be DEAD.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #867 (isolation #110) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:20 pm

In post 866, eagerSnake wrote:Challenge: House

Everyone can only vote for me or House now.

I SWEAR IF THIS IS REAL I WILL BE FLIPPING ALL THE TABLES I CAN FIND.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #869 (isolation #111) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:04 pm

Please do not joke about gladiating. It's awkward enough as is, we don't need it reduced to a terrible meme.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #871 (isolation #112) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:36 pm

In post 870, House wrote:
In post 865, Gamma Emerald wrote:Bleh, I'm hoping this is a Town v Mafia argument, that way once Day 2 rolls around this can blow over because one of you will likely be DEAD.
If you're actually town, you're fucking stupid.

Scum thrives on conflict and eager's buddies are getting their rocks off right now.

Scum thrives on Town v Town conflict because they can blend in.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #873 (isolation #113) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:42 pm

In post 872, House wrote:
In post 871, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 870, House wrote:
In post 865, Gamma Emerald wrote:Bleh, I'm hoping this is a Town v Mafia argument, that way once Day 2 rolls around this can blow over because one of you will likely be DEAD.
If you're actually town, you're fucking stupid.

Scum thrives on conflict and eager's buddies are getting their rocks off right now.
Scum thrives on Town v Town conflict because they can blend in.
Scum thrives on conflict, period.

This isn't EM, and I'm tired of you acting like you know something when all you can do is spout off stupid shit.

What makes you think this has anything to do with EpicMafia? How about you stop letting your anger get in the way of proper thinking.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #874 (isolation #114) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:44 pm

In post 855, House wrote:If this town wants to keep their collective heads shoved up their asses about you the entire game, I'd prefer being lynched.

"This" town? I don't like the sound of that.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #926 (isolation #115) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:03 am

@Manuel: your posts just feel like they're coming from scum. Throwing shade on your entire wagon doesn't help your case at all, FYI.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #930 (isolation #116) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:07 am

In post 927, CCC wrote:
In post 880, gerryoat wrote:BUT, I plead to my fellow towns, please lynch square, do I have to quote all the contradictions again? I don't get why people can't see that.
Square is one of my top three scumreads. I wouldn't be totally averse to a Square lynch.

Having said that, he's also the lowest of my top three scumreads right now. Most of his contradictions come from his having re-evaluated the thread from the beginning, and his reads changed over that time.

I'm mostly null on Square right now, although he did flood the game with his catch-up that one time. Would not be averse to lynching Square either.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #933 (isolation #117) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:09 am

In post 931, Square World wrote:lol there are people wanting to lynch gamma

how many scum are between these people?

What's that supposed to mean? Do you think the people wanting to lynch me are scum? Do you think I'm scum? This post is so vague.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #939 (isolation #118) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:14 am

In post 938, Square World wrote:anyone up to hunt huntress?

Will have to re-ISO.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #942 (isolation #119) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:23 am

On Huntress: I can't really see anything scummy in her ISO. Why do you scumread her, Square?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #944 (isolation #120) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:28 am

In post 943, gerryoat wrote:he's trying to ML the person who subbed in

How do you know it's a ML?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #953 (isolation #121) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:50 am

In post 952, Manuel87 wrote:
In post 950, VictorDeAngelo wrote: He isn't in my preferred lynch pile. If you want me to help lynch him, I want a persuasive case.
After doing the Iso on him plus Eager i realized he was following Eagers vote almost every time while scumreading him without giving any convincing reason.
He never asked him questions related to scumhunting in fact his only interaction until the Eager vs. me part was in 485 the interaction seems to be rather odd it feels like he already explaines why Eager survives the night in case CCC flips town.
He has read Eager Scum and me town in two readlists yet if you look at their voteprogression Gamma and Eager vote the same person except for the vote on CCC.
Until he finally arrived at the point where he had to decide between me who he had a townread on for the entire game and is voted by all of his scumreads (to be fair Square voted after him)
Or Eager who he had scumread for a long time and even said:
In post 711, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thanks Snake. You're on my would lynch list, but that explanation helped you quite a bit.
After that he disagrees on arguments from Eager
And we finally arive at his vote on me
In post 806, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well I'm feeling better about Square now, so:
VOTE: Manuel87
How does he come to the conclusion to vote me instead of Eager because he likes Square for contradicting himself? (Square read me town in his analysis yet he would lynch me)
Eager should still be his scumread and i should still be his townread yet he votes me over Eager.

In post 925, Square World wrote:
Manuel87

wanna lynch huntress with me?
No i dont i already said that i will not lynch in my townreads.

So are you saying my reads can never change then?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:26 am

Meh. I'm really just not feeling any wagon right now.
UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:58 am

In post 968, House wrote:
In post 463, eagerSnake wrote:I haven't even analysed your case... My response to your desire to lynch CCC has nothing to do with your case or your points.
eager argued that my case on CCC was bad
BEFORE HE EVEN READ IT
.

In post 600, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 403, Grendel wrote:So to finish up I'd like to hear your hypothetical scum team.
Manuel is throwing suspicion on Square, but not voting or FOS'ing. That makes me suspect a Manuel/Square scum team is a possibility.

VOTE: Square World
He posts reasons to suspect Manuel... then votes Square?

In post 800, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 797, House wrote:Lol.
This is House's case.
I'll speak eager's language: Buzz words.

Doubtcasting.

In post 860, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 857, House wrote:Because I'm
Nothing personal,
scum.
Care to explain?
Here, he's attempting to goad me, because I've been acidic towards him. Classic scum instigation tactic.

Anyone townreading this is an idiot.

Thank you for the summary of your case. Now that I can see the entire case, I think you may be right. However, I'd like you to consider the possibility of CCC and Eager being buddies.
VOTE: EagerSnake

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:08 am

In post 974, eagerSnake wrote:This dude is literally guilty of everything he's accusing me of. Whats more, he baited me into using buzzwords, and then accused me of using the buzzwords on that SAME PAGE.

Did you even read his case summary at all?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:27 am

In post 989, Grendel wrote:@House

If Eager flips town and you move to lynch wagon away from Gamma tomorrow you are scum with Gamma.

As if you couldn't shift the lynch wagon. That's what you're best at as town. Rallying for lynches. Give me a break.

This looks like lining up lynches.
My townread on Grendel is starting to dissipate.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:34 am

House, that was in reference to your case on CCC.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:36 am

In post 1001, eagerSnake wrote:Gamma, if you're town you're going to mess this up for us. Put your vote back on Manuel. I'm not even sure why the wagon on him dissipated.

Why should I vote Manuel? I would think you'd want to form a wagon on House.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:48 am

In post 991, House wrote:
In post 989, Grendel wrote:@House

If Eager flips town and you move to lynch wagon away from Gamma tomorrow you are scum with Gamma.

As if you couldn't shift the lynch wagon. That's what you're best at as town. Rallying for lynches. Give me a break.
If eager somehow flips town (not a chance in hell), I'll forfeit my case on Gamma, as it depends on an eager scumflip.

QED.

How did that association come about, House?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:54 am

In post 1011, eagerSnake wrote:To sum it up: He says we were scum theatering, and that you have been following my votes.

Funny that he agrees with you about CCCxMe, but then tells others it's YouxMe.

You forget there is the possibility of a 3 mafia team.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:58 am

In post 1017, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1014, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1011, eagerSnake wrote:To sum it up: He says we were scum theatering, and that you have been following my votes.

Funny that he agrees with you about CCCxMe, but then tells others it's YouxMe.
You forget there is the possibility of a 3 mafia team.
How do you get that out of that?

Anyway, Gamma, you have about 5 minutes to unvote me. At that time I am going to start my homework. I probably won't be back until after 6PM tomorrow, as stated, and I don't trust leaving at L-2 all the way to deadline with House here.

I think not.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:06 pm

UNVOTE:
Your not out of the woods yet, Eager. How is that a crumb?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:16 pm

What is with town Roleblockers getting outed Day 1 in games I'm in?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:18 pm

In post 1029, House wrote:
In post 1028, Gamma Emerald wrote: What is with town Roleblockers getting outed Day 1 in games I'm in?
eager was in that game with you as well.

Do you really think he's incapable of manipulating you like this?

WRONG, though Grendel was in that game.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:27 pm

VOTE: Square
What makes you entitled to hammer?

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:37 pm

Yeah, now that we have a CC:
VOTE: Eager

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:22 pm

Yeah, I was doubting you could be scum based on the lack of AtE, at least until the CC.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:18 pm

Manuel, I don't like that post. It confuses me.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:31 am

Well that explains what he said.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:07 am

He said he wasn't a full roleblocker. The flip explains what he fully meant.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:28 am

Bleh. I'm sure I could have said that better, but I said what I meant. I was interested in his statement, so seeing his flip would obviously pique my interest.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:33 am

In post 1081, House wrote:
In post 1080, Gamma Emerald wrote:Bleh. I'm sure I could have said that better, but I said what I meant. I was interested in his statement, so seeing his flip would obviously pique my interest.
Yeah. Why so interested in the outed PR claim?

I didn't know what it meant.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:43 am

In post 1084, House wrote:To be clear, Gamma... you hopping off eager's wagon is what renewed my suspicion of you. It was a clear distancing attempt after being called out on your scum theater with him.

You getting back on the wagon
after a counterclaim
does not make you town.

VOTE: Gamma

No. I believed his claim until he was CCed. Look at what I said during twilight.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:50 am

You are wrong about me though.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:56 am

I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. I'm not saying it's confirmed though: just a connection I made.
VOTE: CCC

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:02 am

@House it's very simple: Eager was chainsaw defending his buddy.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:04 am

When he said your reasoning against CCC was bad without reading your case.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:57 am

Please tell me why everyone keeps assuming 3 scum now.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:02 am

What about me, Victor?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:29 am

In post 1127, Grendel wrote:I actually didn't study the game at all last night, I should go back and adjust my reads now that I have flips to work with.

I want a catch-up series, with plenty of fresh notes.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:48 am

In post 1136, House wrote:
In post 1134, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1127, Grendel wrote:I actually didn't study the game at all last night, I should go back and adjust my reads now that I have flips to work with.
I want a catch-up series, with plenty of fresh notes.
Note #1: You are scum.

Shut up. This will help me read him.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:53 pm

I second the request for explanation.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:56 pm

Will you grant my request?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:06 pm

In post 1143, Gamma Emerald wrote:Will you grant my request?

That was @Grendel, FYI. Also, he just left.

Great.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:21 pm

Oh wow I feel bad now. That's a new level of shitty activity calling out.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:31 pm

Because I want to be sure you're not following popular opinion.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:54 pm

Like do you want a read list or what?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:24 pm

Try to defend yourself. You sound like caught scum now.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:30 pm

Looking at Grendel's early game, I have to conclude there is no way he could be scum since Eager flipped scum. I don't think he would have talked with his scumbuddy like that.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:32 pm

@CCC: I voted Eager, unvoted when Eager claimed, then voted Eager again when I realized Square CCed. As for voting with him, my votes we mostly independent. If you can point out a time where I steeped Eager, please do.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:36 pm

In post 1158, Gamma Emerald wrote:@CCC: I voted Eager, unvoted when Eager claimed, then voted Eager again when I realized Square CCed. As for voting with him, my votes we mostly independent. If you can point out a time where I steeped Eager, please do.

*sheeped Eager
Damn phone

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 1159, CCC wrote:
In post 1155, Gamma Emerald wrote:Try to defend yourself. You sound like caught scum now.
Who, me?

I suppose I do. Given how much I was townreading eager on day one, if I didn't know I was Town I'd probably suspect me, too.

I'm Town. I was wrong about eager. I don't really know what to add to that.

Town can have bad reads. What you need to do is prove how Eager pretty much whiteknighting you doesn't implicate you. If you can prove that you'll be a whole lot better in my eyes.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:41 pm

@CCC: I see. I just figured he had a good point about Manuel. I do not deny I sheeped him there.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:43 pm

And yet people are accusing me of being Eager's buddy because of his weak vote on me. Try again House.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:47 pm

In post 1167, House wrote:
In post 1166, Gamma Emerald wrote:And yet people are accusing me of being Eager's buddy because of his weak vote on me. Try again House.
I'm not, so your flimsy objection is irrelevant.

Well it's not all about you!

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:47 pm

In post 1169, CCC wrote:
In post 1164, Gamma Emerald wrote:@CCC: I see. I just figured he had a good point about Manuel. I do not deny I sheeped him there.
What about Square World?

What about him?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:52 pm

CCC did provide a good case for why Eager's deflection shouldn't mean anything, so I'm gonna go back and read House's original case again and see if I still agree.
I don't remember what Square posted exactly before I voted, so I may have to check that too.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:57 pm

About the Square vote: while I did say something that would look like sheeping to a casual observer(the "I have the same reason" statement), I had that thought before it was posted by someone else.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:03 pm

I looked back at your case House, and it doesn't feel as strong now. To remedy that, I want you to tell me what CCC has been doing that's scummy since you presented that case.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:06 pm

In post 1182, House wrote:
In post 1180, Gamma Emerald wrote:I looked back at your case House, and it doesn't feel as strong now. To remedy that, I want you to tell me what CCC has been doing that's scummy since you presented that case.
I don't care what you want, scum. Stop interfering in my interaction with CCC.

If you want me to vote with you, you're gonna have to do this.
UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:10 pm

In post 1184, House wrote:
In post 1183, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1182, House wrote:
In post 1180, Gamma Emerald wrote:I looked back at your case House, and it doesn't feel as strong now. To remedy that, I want you to tell me what CCC has been doing that's scummy since you presented that case.
I don't care what you want, scum. Stop interfering in my interaction with CCC.
If you want me to vote with you, you're gonna have to do this.
UNVOTE:
I would rather you swing, tbh.

Why?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:16 pm

What did you just...what.
Tell me why I should still townread you, House.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:21 pm

Look who just vanished after I called him out.
VOTE: House

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:24 pm

In post 1191, CCC wrote:
In post 1188, Gamma Emerald wrote:What did you just...what.
Tell me why I should still townread you, House.
I'm pretty sure that he's saying he thinks you're scum.

I get that. I think he could be fulfilling a scum win con too though.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:24 pm

In post 1192, House wrote:
In post 1187, CCC wrote:Gamma Emerald - Neither eager's vote on him nor his vote on eager are good reasons to townread him, as they were both done in such a way as to suggest a possibility of bussing.
Also has been looking scummy since day one.
Also on occasion followed eager's reads with little explanation, despite professing to scumread eager.
Where was this opinion d1?

How did he look scummy d1?

Explain clearly, please.

He's explained before.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:25 pm

In post 1195, House wrote:
In post 1190, Gamma Emerald wrote:Look who just vanished after I called him out.
VOTE: House

Yeah sure laugh it up while you can, I think I got you figured out.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:31 pm

In post 1130, House wrote:
In post 1128, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I'm sure I did, but it's too late, and I'm not bothering to self ISO myself nor your case. IIRC your case was mostly just signs that CCC doesn't play in a way that you expect town to. Looking over his last games he seems to be a newish player, with a somewhat unconventional playstyle. I didn't find anything incriminating and your strongest point was actually CCC correcting a mistake I made.
Terrible.

I'm coming for you if we have a single town flip between these two.

THIS is the post that upon retrospect makes me think House is scum. He probably knows at least one of us will flip town and he can pursue this lynch later. I'm thinking House as last scum in a 2 person team or House and CCC in a 3 person team. I dont add a second/third because Eager already flipped scum.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:32 pm

In post 1198, House wrote:
In post 1194, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1191, CCC wrote:
In post 1188, Gamma Emerald wrote:What did you just...what.
Tell me why I should still townread you, House.
I'm pretty sure that he's saying he thinks you're scum.
I get that. I think he could be fulfilling a scum win con too though.
Oh Lord.

Internet cookies to the first person that posts why Gamma is full of shit.

You do know Internet cookies are little bits of data left to help sites remember you, no?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:36 pm

Wait whoooaaaaaa
Looking at his summary makes me think CCC is scum. He folds the Grendel's suggestion a little too easily.
FUCK IT THE FOS IS ALIVE
VOTE: CCC

FOS: House

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:37 pm

*folds to

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:40 pm

In post 1207, House wrote:
In post 1201, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1130, House wrote:
In post 1128, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I'm sure I did, but it's too late, and I'm not bothering to self ISO myself nor your case. IIRC your case was mostly just signs that CCC doesn't play in a way that you expect town to. Looking over his last games he seems to be a newish player, with a somewhat unconventional playstyle. I didn't find anything incriminating and your strongest point was actually CCC correcting a mistake I made.
Terrible.

I'm coming for you if we have a single town flip between these two.
THIS is the post that upon retrospect makes me think House is scum. He probably knows at least one of us will flip town and he can pursue this lynch later. I'm thinking House as last scum in a 2 person team or House and CCC in a 3 person team. I dont add a second/third because Eager already flipped scum.
So I'm going to...

1) Lynch my buddy d1...
2) Implicate another buddy in a twofer d2...
3) Just to set ONE townie up for a mislynch?

Yeah... No.

VOTE: Gamma

This can die today.

You'd be on the wagons of two of your buddies though. And I didn't say there had to be 3 mafia

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:44 pm

CCC. You seem VERY confident there is 3 mafia.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:48 pm

Well more than one. Me first, then Victor, then either Gerry or TheJester.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:50 pm

Now please tell me why you can't be scum with only Eager.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:51 pm

If you are mafia PR, yes.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:54 pm

You would get a ton of towncred though for that lynch being right.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:56 pm

In post 1218, House wrote:Case. Fucking. Closed.

No. I'll keep pressuring this tomorrow I think.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:57 pm

Good night, in case you couldn't tell.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:02 pm

In post 1222, House wrote:
In post 1219, Gamma Emerald wrote:You would get a ton of towncred though for that lynch being right.
You're so full of shit it's spewing out of your mouth.

There's a reason people say 1:1 trades favor town, math whiz.

Town isn't going to follow me like the fucking pied piper just because I led one successful scum lynch.

Cease in point... you aren't hammered yet, but I think you've resolved that issue with your bullshit push on me.

Today would be 2 if CCC is scum.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:07 pm

Wow I can't believe I forgot that.

UnFOS: House

Gamma Emerald · Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:51 pm

In post 1236, House wrote:
In post 1234, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I'm just setting House to ignore for the rest of the day.

In fact time to hear more from anyone who isn't House/CCC/Gamma as that seems to be dominating the day.
Be happy. You convinced me of what CCC could not.

I'm coming for your ass after Gamma flips red. With two scum flips under my belt, how hard do you think it's going to be to stretch your neck too?

And when I flip green?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:04 am

Also, did no one catch the fact

I challenged the confirmed town?

Do you really think scum!me would do that?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:25 am

I think the risk would be too great for that.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:45 am

In post 1243, House wrote:Also, since I'm pretty much a lock for NK barring a PR claim, let's control the claim.

If there is a doctor in the house that has no modifiers (x-shot, odd/even/non-consecutive night, etc), please claim and target me at night. I can protect you in return.

This does not apply to jailkeeper.

I doubt there is that many protective roles in the game.

FOS: House

I don't like the sound of this.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:52 am

Yeah let's look at this closer. I'm currently thinking:
3 town PRs
2 mafia(1 left)
If I'm right, I'm guessing the PRs are one investigative, one protective, and the dead Jack-of-all-Trades. So how would you protect him? Simple: don't kill him. That would explain why you don't want to be roleblocked: you have to do the kill.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:00 am

I could see you being Town or mafia PR. Everyone, since I'm not likely to survive the Day, please make sure to keep House in check in future Days.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:14 am

That's not at all what I was thinking. I'm not that crazy. I just feel like there could be ways it works with you as both alignments.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:23 am

>House is a town cop. He get a free investigation.
>House is a mafia roleblocker. He can hunt the cop without worrying about protective roles.
>Some more complex possibility.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:25 am

You could block the doctor while you hunt for the cop.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:35 am

In post 1257, House wrote:All this shit is besides the fact your dumbass theory is predicated on the fact that step one of my evil master plan is to throw my buddy, who had zero pressure, under the bus.

And yes, I'm going to play that card over and over again.

Are we talking Eager or CCC here? Because I said I think there's only two mafia.