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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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I'm being slightly douchey, yes. But I find it hard to believe that people don't have at least SOME kind of opinion forming by page four. The idea wasn't "pick three or I'll lynch you and you die" I meant "If you had to pick three or die, who would your three be?". But then he challenged me and I had to vote.
Yeah, my vote'll stay there until Neto provides some semblance of content.green shirt thursdays-
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Unvote. My pressure vote did what I wanted it to and started discussion. The fact that Sak jumped on the wagon then couldn't adequately explain himself is enough to warrant a vote from me.Vote: Sakako.
I was hoping Nik would post before the wagon was derailed, but alas, Sakako is a much better vote. Huzzah!green shirt thursdays-
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1) How was I making Neto repeat himself?
2) That's pretty typical of an OMGUS vote: vote me with some loose reasoning strung together and say it's not OMGUS. In fact, you're saying "There's an off-chance you could have had this whole thing set up from the start and tried to trip Neto up, which in turn tripped me up, and now you're trying to pin it on me." Think about it, folks - in order for Sak's weak theory to be true, he's saying I basically counted on him coming to Neto's aid. Because if my goal was to entrap Neto, why'd I back off the dude the moment I saw a real opportunity?
3) Aside from all of that - even if I wasn't just voting Neto for pressure and it was a serious attempt at a lynch wagon - I find it convenient that you've now hopped on the two leading wagons when they both had two votes on them. You just skyrocketed from being maybe scum to likely scum.green shirt thursdays-
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As I stated in the vote post, I was hoping to draw out more discussion from at least Nikanor, but you already jumped the gun, so at that point there was no need to keep it a secret.DRK wrote:What changed between your vote and your previous post that made you decide to vote now?green shirt thursdays-
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I don't get the Monkey wagon. After re-reading the last few pages, he just seems more like a townie who has stumbled over himself trying to explain himself. When I read Sakako, it seems more like scum doing two things: passively trying to throw suspicion, AND not really taking a strong stance either way on anyone. I think a newbie scum tactic would be to hold off on naming suspects/flinging shit in anyone's direction so that the spotlight is not on them, and that seems to be what Sakako is doing.
Also, ATTENTION EVERYONE: PLEASE STOP SAYING YOU ARE BAD AT SCUMHUNTING/DON'T SCUMHUNT AND AT LEAST TRY. IF YOU ARE JUST GOING TO BITCH AND MOAN THE WHOLE GAME ABOUT HOW BAD YOU ARE AT SCUMHUNTING, REPLACE THE FUCK OUT. THANK YOU.green shirt thursdays-
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Despite hito being a mostly neutral read for me right now, his post regarding Sakako's 102 is both funny AND reaffirms everything I thought about Sakako. This isn't just Sakako prying for information - it's an attempt at a case to lynch, and a poor one at that. Sakako needs waaaay more votes.green shirt thursdays-
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You lurk your ass off, then come in and put Sakako at L-1 by repeating the same argument used by other people (which is, IMO, the WORST reason to be lynching him at the moment).Noother content in the game whatsoever.
Sakako is still scummy (and not because he's, as some of you put it, "not playing"). But kyle's L-1 vote is waaaay more deserving of a vote right now.green shirt thursdays-
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It's rare I find this many scum candidates among the town. Reading Sakako again... I'm in limbo with him. He's seeminglytoo scummyto be scum. I know people think it's a null tell or logical fallacy, but I don't think 1) that Sakako is an experienced enough player to really use a null tell like that to his advantage on purpose and 2) that Sakako-scum would be as blatantly defeatist in his attitude. I kinda empathize with his frustration to an extent: I remember back when I seemingly couldn't win a game so I just kept on playing newbie games or giving up when I would always get run up to a lynch wagon. Hell, I even made a GD topic asking people why I suck so much.
At the same time, that whole thing is VERY AtE, which is scummy, I guess. I just really want a kyle lynch for D1, as I think it'd be more helpful in the long run. I would probably lynch Sakako today if worst came to worst, but a MonkeyMan lynch is out of the question for me. I'm just not seeing his scummyness, and Neto's case on him is full of null tells IMHO.
I do think a Sakako flip would be more beneficial, information-wise, since his wagon has had the most interesting activity on it. A kyle99 lynch might not be as informational... but it'd remove that WIFOM target for the rest of the game. EVERY game I've played with kyle99 has turned into him either being a scum lynch or a mislynch at some point. Never a night kill.green shirt thursdays-
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Where the hell did I say I think Sakako iskyle99 wrote:
So you agree that Sakako is is more scummy than me, and that his lynch would yield more information, yet you still want to lynch me?xRECKONERx wrote:Hmm. I guess I can see AGM's point. But do you not agree that his vote on Sakako was lurky and opportunistic?morescummy than you? SWEET BLATANT MISREP SCUM.green shirt thursdays-
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Sure - it'd be nice if that was true, but I just think the statistical likelihood of that happening is slim to none. Honestly, I think it's much more likely that one of them is scum, and we haven't even touched on the other scum yet due to lurkerness.Sakako wrote:No, I'm trying to hunt, though. I'd like to hear your opinion on this, Reck. what do you think about thepossibility?green shirt thursdays-
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I don't necessarily find that INCREDIBLY strange because Nik lurks a lot. >.>Lowell wrote:Geez I dont' know, a bunch of people. What has nik done, for instance, other than closely monitor the vote count and post one-liners w/ happy faces? No one thinks that's strange?
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I don't...Sakako wrote:Well, no, out of Kyle and Monkey, cause you said it was much more likely for one of those to be scum than both.
What is...
I'm trying...
...I've clearly stated multiple times that I would not support a MM wagon at this juncture, and would support a kyle99 lynch, and would probably still support a Sakako lynch.green shirt thursdays-
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xRECKONERx wrote:Unvote, Vote: kyle99
What. The. Fuck.xRECKONERx wrote:Nikanor wagon =/= productiveMonkeyMan576 wrote:
Yet youre still on the niko wagon?xRECKONERx wrote:kyle, you really need to learn how to play mafia. Only posting when you're asked a question is the worst goddamn strategy ever.
I voted kyle forever ago. I don't understand this whatsoever. I'm resisting every urge in my body to put a vote down on you because you're either not paying attention as town or scum loosely paying attention and trying to twist things into scumminess that isn't there.MonkeyMan576 wrote:Sorry didn't see you had voted kyle already, reckgreen shirt thursdays-
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I'm not sure on Monkey. I seem to always end up thinking he's scum at some point in every game I've played with him, but that's wound up with scum-Monkey getting lynched at least twice (that's probably ~50% of the games I've played with him), so I'm not sure how to take it. Same goes for kyle.
That being said, I can't let the whole "you're always scummy" meta turn me away from what could be a very possible scum candidate. I'd rather lynch kyle still at this point. I don't think they're both scum.green shirt thursdays-
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TOWN-KYLE:
Empire Records mafia, where he was lynched D3
SCUM-KYLE:
Mayor Mafia, where he was lynched D3
I mean, it's really hard to distinguish between his play in either game. I mostly support a kyle lynch for these reasons: 1) he's scummy anyway, 2) if we don't lynch him now and he's town, he's a mislynch later at a crucial point in the game, 3) if we don't lynch him now and he's scum, he'll be allowed to float on by for too long.
Basically, we lose little as town by lynching kyle. If someone can pick something else out from the games I've provided meta-wise, maybe I'll reconsider. But for now, kyle lynch > other lynches.green shirt thursdays-
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Why Monkey over the other two? You spend this whole post talking about not liking Sakako's hopping, then point out Monkey's quick vote hop, but you say nothing about kyle. And, by your own logic, Sakako should be equally as viable as MonkeyMan... what makes MM's hopping scummier than Sak's?almightybob wrote:I agree with DRK's 344. One of those 3 are the best choice for today, we will get lots of information from their flips. Right now I would rather lynch Monkey.green shirt thursdays-
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No, I'm not 'eager' to do anything. I can give you a scum list right now if you want. I have my suspicions, and I'll see where they lie.
And technically, we've got three viable lynch candidates on D1, which is a lot better than most games which end up in either "ZOMG RANDOM WAGON TO L-1!" territory or "ZOMG IT HAS TO BE ONE OF THESE TWO" territories. We have a much better chance that one of Monkey/kyle/Sakako is scum than just one or two of them.green shirt thursdays-
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Unvote, Vote: Nikanor
I'm sorry, but if THAT is the best case you can come up with, you need to be lynched. Your chronic lurking is hurting town; and when you finally do get a post in, you point out some random post of AGM's and make a comment about it, then throw down a vote? That's not a case. It's a comment. And you conveniently don't want to join any of the current lynch wagons... why's that? We got the noose around your scumbuddy's throat?green shirt thursdays-
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I'm not saying we HAVE to lynch one of them... if you'd like to try and start another viable wagon before deadline (which, NEWSFLASH, is six days away), be my guest. I'm kinda in this "ugh, they're all scummy" grey area with all three of them right now, and I need to go back and re-read. I called Sakako poor town or newb town, but then again, there's a very fine line between newbtown and newbscum. Monkey and kyle's meta line up with them being scummy as hell right now, but then again, I've lynched them BOTH as scum AND town using the said meta, so it's almost a null tell.green shirt thursdays-
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MM is the scummiest out of kyle99 and him and Sakako. Sakako reads like newbtown/newbscum, which can be dealt with later. kyle99 is lurking as usual and his play is consistent with both town and scum reads. Monkey is, however, playing much like his scum meta in Revenge of the Crimson King.green shirt thursdays-
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