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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:39 am

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Night 2 is over. Town awakes to find Chilledtea was brutally murdered in his sleep.

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You are the Jail Keeper. You have the keys to the most secure place in town. Each night you may target one player and lock them up. While locked up, that player will be protected from night kills but will also be unable to take any night actions of their own.

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You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Here is the game thread. Please confirm via PM with your role name and in thread by posting /confirm.




Day 3 has begun. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-19 06:00:00)

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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:45 am

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VoteCount 3.1With 10 players alive, it takes
6
votes to lynch.

Maestro (0):

Almost50 (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Lowell (0):

mhsmith0 (0):

texcat (0):

Garmr (0):

Dierfire (0):

ToastyToast (0):

Expedience (0):



Not Voting (10):
Maestro, mhsmith0, Lowell, Expedience. ToastyToast, Garmr, texcat, Almost50, Sakura Hana, Dierfire

The deadline is in
(expired on 2016-04-19 06:00:00)


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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:09 am

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If there's one and only one thing I know, it's that sakura is town. That was too real to be bussing. Come at me, bros.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:12 am

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VOTE: Lowell

I still need to reread, and look at CT's ISO, as he suggested.
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:24 am

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I could go with a Lowell lynch, but I feel stronger about this right now:

VOTE: Expedience

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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:51 am

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I don't think Garmr-Exp is town-town. Trying to decide if it's plausibly scum-scum. At any rate, Exp's role fishing yesterday was pretty terrible.

VOTE: Expedience

I think I'm up for a Garmr or Lowell lynch as well. Need to re-read those two and decide what I think there.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:10 am

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In post 1255, mhsmith0 wrote:I don't think Garmr-Exp is town-town. Trying to decide if it's plausibly scum-scum. At any rate, Exp's role fishing yesterday was pretty terrible.

VOTE: Expedience

I think I'm up for a Garmr or Lowell lynch as well. Need to re-read those two and decide what I think there.



VOTE: Expedience
Don't care if you think I might be scum because all I need to do is lynch the real scum that is expedience to clear my name.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:21 am

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It would be nice if everybody provided their updated scum reads (I'm only interested in your top 2 scum reads). Mine are Expedience first then Lowell.

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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:29 am

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In post 1257, Almost50 wrote:It would be nice if everybody provided their updated scum reads (I'm only interested in your top 2 scum reads). Mine are Expedience first then Lowell.

Lowel would be my third after the claim but my top two

Expedience and Deirfire
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:46 am

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I wanna hear from Maestro first and foremost, he replaced in and has yet to do anything.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:57 am

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Honestly I find it unlikely to think scum would just openly go against a runaway scumwagon like yesterday. That's just me, though... and WIFOMy for sure.
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:04 am

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In post 1260, Lowell wrote:Honestly I find it unlikely to think scum would just openly go against a runaway scumwagon like yesterday. That's just me, though... and WIFOMy for sure.


That doesn't give me much about whom you're scum reading.

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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:43 am

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So I think we need to be taking a closer look at the leaders. Now that we have a scum flip, it is imperative that we look at the associations.

Day talk is also confirmed to have existed given Boons flip, so we need to keep in mind that the scum team was likely coordinated. I think it is likely that Boon ended up getting used as a scapegoat to help establish town cred among some other players, so I'm not clearing anyone off the table--not even Sakura although I find that highly unlikely. Got to look at where the momentum was going.

Associations are going to be easier to find among the leader group. Obviously given how Expedience interacted with the Boon wagon, he is a prime suspect. Almost50 is also still a possibility because of the somewhat weak "confrontation" Boon kept mentioning. Boon was also really hypocritical throughout the game (my primary reason for voting him), so I want to double check exactly what things were making him waffle more. Garmr is sort of the wild card in this--he was important early day 2 and sort of fell into the background as the Boon discussion started taking out. Updating my list to match my current reads.

Orange="One of"
Yellow=suspect but not a good lynch today

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Garmr,
Sakura Hana*
(despite her recent posts, which show more lurker than anything else, she's still provided decent content D1 and is driving discussion)
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, mhsmith0,
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:44 am

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also Im sorry if that red is the color we aren't supposed to use--I just saw that in the rules
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:47 am

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How close were we to deadline when the people who didn't want to vote Boons did so (namely, Expedience).
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:49 am

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In post 1264, ToastyToast wrote:How close were we to deadline when the people who didn't want to vote Boons did so (namely, Expedience).

3 or so days, according to the expiry date on the countdown timer.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:50 am

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Basically deadline was supposed to be last midnight, but the lynch happened between 2-3 days ago, so probably a bit over 2 days?
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:07 pm

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In post 1252, Lowell wrote:If there's one and only one thing I know, it's that sakura is town. That was too real to be bussing. Come at me, bros.


I'd +1 here. Not totally impossible, but that would be an incredibly ballsy scum play, especially since it (presumably) killed off day chat, which is a HUGE cost to scum team. Certainly I can't think of anyone who's merited a stronger town read at this point than Sakura.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:35 pm

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In post 1263, ToastyToast wrote:also Im sorry if that red is the color we aren't supposed to use--I just saw that in the rules


This is not the first time it has been used in that manner and I would have commented earlier if it was an issue. I did not think of the standard red/green reads lists when establishing red as my color. I certainly do not mind if you are using the red color in that context.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:23 pm

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Toasty, Can you explain your town read of Dierfire for me?
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 1267, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 1252, Lowell wrote:If there's one and only one thing I know, it's that sakura is town. That was too real to be bussing. Come at me, bros.


I'd +1 here. Not totally impossible, but that would be an incredibly ballsy scum play, especially since it (presumably) killed off day chat, which is a HUGE cost to scum team. Certainly I can't think of anyone who's merited a stronger town read at this point than Sakura.


Yeah, I'm just not writing her off completely because there was day talk...but it still makes little sense as to why they would try to get boon lynched unless they were trying to protect someone else....boon likely would not have been lynched if the sakura-boon exchange did not happen.
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:32 pm

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In post 1269, texcat wrote:Toasty, Can you explain your town read of Dierfire for me?


I thought his assessment of Expedience was fair and his scum read on chilled tea made sense--even if it chilled ended up flipping town.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:49 pm

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In post 1267, mhsmith0 wrote:Certainly I can't think of anyone who's merited a stronger town read at this point than Sakura.

I agree kinda, bussing is still a thing though. We definitely shouldn't lynch Sakura now, but if we get to MyLo and she's still alive we should lynch her and have her vengekill because she's claiming a non-normal role.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:54 pm

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In post 1255, mhsmith0 wrote:I don't think Garmr-Exp is town-town. Trying to decide if it's plausibly scum-scum. At any rate, Exp's role fishing yesterday was pretty terrible.

VOTE: Expedience

Lynching Boonskiies without a counterclaim would be ridiculous.

I will never vote to lynch anyone in a position like that if they were uncounterclaimed. From where I was standing I could see a bunch of people trying to lynch a PR who I was townreading based on reachy reasoning.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:56 pm

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VOTE: Garmr

Also, I doubt Direfire is scum. Especially not for the reasons I can see Garmr preparing to pull out of his ass.

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