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Hmm What're you trying to do here fontisian eh? True or false for you: Rubicon and atum are unaligned.
Players that haven't seen me in a game before, what's your meta?
This is the part where I disappear for another day.
Oh and heads up notice, there's a week and a halfish later in August where I will almost definitely have little to no ability to be around. I'll give the dates later as I don't know them off handedly but if I'm alive then depending on the game cycles we should use an extension so I can catch up and be around for day end.-
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So. Ika is town. Unsight is town. Relatively sure Fontisian is town.
And now's the part where I vote Stigmata because OMGUS. But mostly because he's doubtcasting Fontisian and looking for a mislynch target as opposed to solving the game.
Stigmata, care to reveal who you are? You don't have to, but the fact that you voted for 'Citrus' over 'MadCitrus' means you've played with me before, since on all other forums I'm 'Citrus'.
VOTE: Stigmata
In other news, I am madly in love with this ISO button. Like an order of magnitude better than any other I've used because you can see the entirety of posts in it.
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Pre-ISO: scum know who scum and town are, town know neither.
Doubt-casting a "townread"
In post 126, Stigmata wrote:Why? (Not disagreeing that ika's town, but I don't understand how that makes Citrus town)
Further doing so
In post 158, Stigmata wrote:In post 153, Rubicon wrote:My goal is now to discover Stigmata's true identity.
In post 63, Atum wrote:I'm more curious as to why font's first post was basically her opening from the last Witchhunt, though less abrupt and more conciliatory. I'm also still don't understand fully why town would volunteer information to the scum team, which has more in the first place.
On the other hand at least there's something interesting to talk about pre-game.
Fontisian, is there a reason you're interested in Rubicon's post along the same lines but not Atum's #63?
Doubt-casting Fontisian
In post 185, Stigmata wrote:In post 183, MadCitrus wrote:
Oh and heads up notice, there's a week and a halfish later in August where I will almost definitely have little to no ability to be around. I'll give the dates later as I don't know them off handedly but if I'm alive then depending on the game cycles we should use an extension so I can catch up and be around for day end.
DL extension in late August would be good for me too tbh; I'll be V/LA.
Citrus wrote:Hmm What're you trying to do here fontisian eh?
? Explain.
Not particularly impressed by your 'catch-up.'
No thanks. That was addressed to Fontisian and I'll explain when she asks me to (or I change my mind).
In post 199, Stigmata wrote:I don't really have anything to add that's not in my iso; he's pretty boring and UTR thus far. I guess as far as #183, I'm not sure what kind of answers he was looking for about meta? Seems too vague to be productive.
48 hours into the game (including pre-game), sorry I have IRL stuff during the weekend (note: not sorry). I'm waiting on more responses to my meta question before I explain why thanks.
In post 197, Stigmata wrote:I asked Grib because he made an off-handed post implying he thought there were 4 scum in this game; there were 4 scum in the Witchhunt game linked, but there are 3 in this one. Does anyone who was in both games think he'd have made that post as scum here?
VOTE: Citrus
Wrong forum bro, I'm madcitrus here. Why don't you make up your mind yourself? Or would you like us all to come to a consensus and then you can sheep it for towncred?-
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In post 231, Rubicon wrote:In post 229, MadCitrus wrote:So. Ika is town. Unsight is town. Relatively sure Fontisian is town.
why, why and why, respectively
When my 80% Ika is town crosses 90% Ika is town I'll explain.
Paranoia with the grave-digger claim, for further reference it reads kinda like Lyrium's from the other WH game (I don't like how she's mildly concerned on being lynched as cited in that post, but the rest of the post's paranoia reasonably drowns that out).
Because she's expecting to get N1'd. Whereas on this Forum she's not as well known, considering her experience she'd setup for lategame rather than earlygame as scum.-
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What does V/LA mean?
In post 175, Holder of the Heel wrote:Hmmm... this is getting somewhat confusing. I'm going to have to make this quick because I'm about to be busy.
@Mod I think it might be best to replace me with Expresso. My attention is going to be too divided to read through this, the other game (which has a link to another game..), and really try along with everyone else when they already have such a repertoire with themselves, the game, and the set-up, especially when it contrasts so starkly with my game and the way I went through it. Phases are long but I don't wish to play if I can't keep up consistent activity but more important activity that has decent effort behind it. And it's better this happens now before the game "technically" begins. Anyways, I apologize. Someone who can enjoy this fully and make it fun for the others should really be here instead. Especially now that I know that at the start of the next month I'm going to be more busy.
Don't go! We may seem a bit strange due to our pre-existing repertoire, but it's mostly because it's super early in the game and it's easiest to read/analyze those whose meta we know - hence why the previous WH game is linked for those who are curious. It'll be fun, I promise! Unless I'm dead. Day threads always get boring when I'm dead. Totally.
On a similar note: for those that want it, Modchat for that WH game and all private QT's http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/Ufui4M5FMD2. For some background games on those of us that've played WH recently (me, fontisian, rubicon, atum). No, none of this is mandatory reading material in the slightest (actually not sarcasm this time)-
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In post 240, fontisian wrote:Towntris! Oh, I've missed you.
Ika, Unsight, Honey Bee, Grib, Stigmata, Citrus and I are all town, kiddies. Look outside of that group.
I was going to say, let's solve this game in record time. But then days are 2 weeks so no records to break here. I'm going to continue to diverge from your read on Stigmata for now.
In post 242, Unsight wrote:In post 239, Atum wrote:Way to many nulls. Anyway, discuss.
You said your reason for voting fontisian was different from mine in Post 196. What is it?
Also, what about MadCitrus makes him scummy? Did you just want to make him orange?
I like you, just as I like the color orange (though my favorite color is actually red, true story)
OH! OH!
Time to re-read all your posts
Sigh, at least you're keeping those mispellings fresh. Got it, thanks-
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In post 248, Stigmata wrote:Citrus wrote:Stigmata, care to reveal who you are? You don't have to, but the fact that you voted for 'Citrus' over 'MadCitrus' means you've played with me before, since on all other forums I'm 'Citrus'.
I'mDelphine, which should give you some needed context. Anyway:
Spoiler: (1)
Your first couple of posts were (obviously) null to me and basically content-less, so her townreading you as strongly as she was, was what stuck out to me in her reads list. I was curious whether she had a good reason for doing so. Firstly because it helps me read you, and secondly because I've only played with fontisian on IRC; I'm not particularly good at reading her, but one way I've caught her before is that she'll put her buddies in her townpile on a really weak basis and will just keep saying that they're town over and over again until it sticks.
Spoiler: (2)
I did phrase that kinda weird (obv she had a reason and I wanted to know what it was) but am not really sure how that's doubt-casting, just wanted to get a better read on her.
Spoiler: (3)
Okay, this is frustrating to me since both those questions kinda read to me as empty posting (at least out of context) but I'm not scumreading you for doing so (I believe that you believe it's pro-town for you to not.) I don't think you should have to be sorry for being busy but I don't think it's unreasonable for me to have pressure voted you here, either, as I'd like to get you out of my null-slight-scum pile since I think I can p quickly?
Spoiler: (4)
I'm townreading him for it due to to not expecting faking a townslip to be in his scum repertoire, but there are other people in this thread that would know that better than I would. I'm also self-aware of the fact that I tend to townread people that I am emotionally attached to outside of the game with all things being equal, so.[/quote]
HIIIII!!
Hmm, your reveal makes me more and less intrigued by your opening - something did feel off about the amount of focus I was getting.
1) They were indeed content-less. Wanna know why? Because scum can coordinate during pre-game.
2) The phrasing felt like doubt casting -> "is there a reason...but not" is subtly saying her lines of reasoning are flawed, like I-am-asking-for-a-reason-because-here's-proof-you-probably-don't-have-one.
3) It felt a lot more like a "ooh let's lynch this guy for being inactive at the beginning" rather than a "pressure him to develop my read." But that came from the odd focus, which makes sense as I said above.
4) Bringing up something like that is extremely characteristic of you as any alignment from what I can remember of IRC, the testing the waters part was what stuck out to me. But ok.
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@Honey Bee
I'd like you to interpret your meta, please and thanks.
@Everyone else
Waiting on your replies.
In post 245, Jargonaut wrote:Sorry guys, I was out of town this weekend and didn't get much of a chance to get on like I expected. Thoughts to come
Still waiting on those thoughts. A good old poke might help
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In post 269, Atum wrote:Question time!
If you could have picked a role, what would it be?
Are you having fun?
Where else (if applicable) do you play mafia?
Steak or ham?
Apprentice
Not as much as I expected, with almost noone posting today
Definitely steak, unless it's well done then ham
And 235 was @Rubicon (because he was quoted there?)
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Your turn to answer some questions:
Do you like green eggs and ham?
Would you rather be town or scum in this game?
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In post 281, ika wrote:cirtus, why am i town?
I'm not at 90% confident yet. I'm hovering around 82%.
I'm slightly leaning town on Grib, but otherwise at the same place from where I was before. Thoughts?-
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In post 287, Unsight wrote:In post 286, MadCitrus wrote:
I'm not at 90% confident yet. I'm hovering around 82%.
I'm slightly leaning town on Grib, but otherwise at the same place from where I was before. Thoughts?
Outside of Grib and ika, do you have any reads you feel confident in so far?
I'm not confident on Grib yet.
Fairly strong town read on Font.
Town read on you.
AKA the reads I posted earlier
Waiting for the nulls to show up because [redacted1]-
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In post 289, Stigmata wrote:Citrus wrote:They were indeed content-less. Wanna know why? Because scum can coordinate during pre-game.
Can you elaborate on this?
Citrus wrote:the testing the waters part was what stuck out to me.
To expand on that, I specifically wanted to know what y'all would think of it because you all just were in the exact same situation as him. If someone else felt like they as part of reminiscing the past game were thinking in terms of four scum as well and that thinking like that wasn't a tell, obviously that's meaningful? Also I just came off of a forum game where I hardcore townread this girl for slipping that she was looking for two scum when it was her first mafia game large enough to typically have three scum, but it turned out there was an SK and she was on a two person scumteam, hence the self-consciousness. Lol.
1) Scums have pre-game chat, meaning stronger scum could coach/set up interactions with weaker scum. It's easier to fake stuff with scumchat and I wouldn't put it past a number of players to utilize that
2) I agree, as I said it's very characteristic of your general play to pick up on things like that. What is odd is how you were looking for a public consensus on it rather than being confident about the point itself. You just as easily could have said "he is town because X" and anyone who disagreed would speak up. Even further, that could put scum closer to the hotseat with a few of us quickly whittling down the player base already. But you were kinda doubtful about it. I could swear there you had a scum!game in IRC where something like this happened as well-
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In post 305, Rubicon wrote:at the moment I'd say scum are probably inside {Albert B. Rampage, ZZZX, fontisian, Stigmata, Jargonaut}
if you want my read on someone specific, ask for it. I'm too tired to make a big reads wall right now.
Why are scums in this group? Focus on reasoning process please-
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Fixed. You should respect she covered it in spoiler/black-
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In post 313, Stigmata wrote:
Yeah uh gun to the head for me just turned into reading a bunch of HotH meta and WIFOMing myself to death. Pew pew. (I have the day off tomorrow; I'll get back to you.)
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In post 324, ika wrote:In post 323, MadCitrus wrote:Ika, that's a fake vote
no, if a host can distiguish the vote it should count. if its not right i can correct it later. im lazy
Working off sc2mafia standards when I said that but ok-
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In post 338, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yeah ok let's lynch Rubicon.
Are you actually going to contribute something useful?
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In post 460, fontisian wrote:Hiplop: Hard to have a scum driven wagon on scum.
Are you blind or otherwise incapable of answering my questions?
Citrus: That would require hiplop to be town, now wouldn't it? Convince me.
I asked you first.
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In post 463, fontisian wrote::/ I'm not going to take time off solving the game to convince you I'm town. Explain your town read on hiplop.
Please see: quote below
In post 461, MadCitrus wrote:In post 460, fontisian wrote:Hiplop: Hard to have a scum driven wagon on scum.
Are you blind or otherwise incapable of answering my questions?
Citrus: That would require hiplop to be town, now wouldn't it? Convince me.
I asked you first.
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage
In post 464, hiplop wrote:In post 456, Albert B. Rampage wrote:What do you think of Jarg hiplop?
well i am jarg's replacement...
Citrus, is font usually this snarky?
She tends to be when either A) she's very confident of herself or B) she's trying to hide something (be it she's scum, she's trying to appear scummy, she has extra knowledge and doesn't want to appear as so, etc.)
In post 478, Atum wrote:In post 454, hiplop wrote:albert please dont be lazy. Font is scum, vote her silly man!
and thanks Citrus!
In post 465, hiplop wrote:I could go for switching to ABR. My biggest bad habit is tunnel vision. ABR has done literally nothing as far as i can tell. Jumped on an easy wagon withme (that had no explanation, either from him or others)
The thing is though, the OMGUS super-read that font developed on me just screams paranoid scum.
The change in tone here is really bad in terms of how you refer to ABR. Your explanation of why you'd be ok voting him looks like covering your bases, you're fairly defensive about the wagon on you and you keep bringing up fontisian for towncred when she flips scum.
@Citrus: If you won't tell fonti, tellmewhy hiplop is town.
Or, I could wait for her to do as asked.
In post 493, fontisian wrote:Ah. Ok, moving on.
Citrus, come back to me and explain your town read, so I can break it.
Why did I even quote this when I'm just going to ignore it.
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In post 581, fontisian wrote:
The point is that I'm a self resolving problem. You don't need to lynch me because scum generally prefer to shoot me over having me around for several Days. Now, look at all of the people (except ika, the derp) voting for me right now. What do they have in common?
Can you explain exactly why you believe hiplop to be town. (Hint: The wagon being scumdriven is a bad answer when I happen to know that it isn't.)
In post 552, fontisian wrote:I want you to vote for hiplop with, because he's likely scumand he's linked to Stigmata. At the very least I'd like you to stop pushing me over nothing so I can focus on lynching scum. Are you going to help or not?
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In post 659, fontisian wrote:Oh, please tell me you're not doing what I think you're doing.
It is your responsibility. Make shit up if you have to. You failed it.
Why the fuck would you say something like that out loud. Seriously, give me one good reason town would say what you just said.
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In post 566, Grib wrote:
Reads because yay.
Grib
Unsight
MadCitrus
fontisian
Stigmata
Rubicon
Atum
Honey bee
Albert B. Rampage
Mist7676
ika
hiplop
ZZZX
Unsight will be allowed to live for toDay because GD. Citrus has been dubbed Towntus, even though it sounds really ugly when you say it out loud. fontisian has proven time and again that she's a psychic scumhunter and for that she gets a Day's pass. I believe Stigmata's reaction to my slip, although she hasn't posted recently so that's worrying me. Rubicon...he always floats around in the middle of my list, and at this rate he'll be steadily dropping, maybe. Atum is posting a lot more frequently than I'm used to, but he said before he has more time because graduation and summer and yay. Honey bee is mostly meh. ABR is Too Scummy To Be Scum but is low on the list just in case. Mist and hiplop have yet to comment on my slip and I really want to hear their opinions on it (even though their opinion is probably going to be wrong, since they've already decided I'm scum). ika, ilu, but why do trust me, exactly? When you know I'm gonna sheep fonti until she flips scum (which hopefully won't happen, fingers crossed). ZZZX, let's be honest, he's posted about as much content as I have and he's mostly under the radar. That won't do.
I wanted to do colors in my readwall but I'm too lazy. If you want more in depth explanations, say "Boo!" and I'll say "Hoo!"
So these reads are ordered? Or what differentiates Honey Bee + ABR from Mist?-
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In post 674, Grib wrote:@Citrus
Mist and ika sort of. Hover around each other and are very interchangeable. ika's desire to kill fonti to lead the Angels (?) is lame and he just seems off. Stigmata already pointed out that Mist and hiplop are practically twins in terms of reads/opinions, so I put them close together. They're probably not both scum but I have no idea where I'd want to start.
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In post 675, Grib wrote:Also Citrus if you don't explain why you and fonti are being So Vague the rest of us normal people are probably going to ignore you.
That's fine.
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In post 710, ZZZX wrote:Why would anyone do a claim as fucked as this.
If font is really priest then we lynch the other guy.
If he was scum we also lynch him
Only way for him to be a town is for font to flip a normal role or smth
That confirms one scum at least
Good
Fix your pronouns and repost this please. Ambiguous as fuck-
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Boom headshot!
Font believed Hiplop was holy. She wanted me to play along and claim she was Priest. BUT guess what I realized? Even if a town is mislynched today, Angels would protect Fontisian over Hiplop due to hard priest claim. The graveyard rules from DLP's game were that roles/night actions/feedback are revealed at the end of N1 onwards, meaning scum get a free shot at Hiplop the holy tonight even if they can't curse as angels wouldn't know any better.
Voted on Fontisian to see how she'd react, because if she's scum she'd be worried about getting lynched without telling her team Hiplop is holy. AKA she would have to scum claim or pull a gambit to survive the night or reveal she believed Hiplop was holy.
Thanks for falling right into my trap. How did you put it again? Q. E. fucking D.
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