Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

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vote nachio

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are you scum lavi?

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Reasonless RVS are p.bad, and I got 3 people to choose from, so i pick the middle one.

why?

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Vote: piguyn

What type?

why isnt this a nacho vote? coward?

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why are you voting yourself.

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thats dumb.

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fyi matias is town.

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further: you also missed pv's reasonless vote which came before yours. and several more after.

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hey masto explain 2 me why drd is town

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are you scum lavi?

i'm sorry...yes....

well ty for being honest about it :)

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vote sakura

yiep

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VOTE: No Lynch because fuck RVS.

fuck off were not in rvs shit head.read the game make a real vote

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belisarius is an A+ target btw 4 ne aspiring vigs/sks out there hopin to scoop up on some towncred.

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naty why are you rushing in to whiteknight skura sio hard so fast ?thje pressure hasnt even started and youre already stacking up excuses 4 her

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im asking you.

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interesting post wayne, but levi is town and beli is scum.

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Because I genuinely am willing to bet she's town from the two posts in the game? Because I'm naturally biased to assume people I know & like are town more than scum(a fact you saw first hand in Paradox Prime, I should mention). Because I'm going yolo this game? I mean, I fucking claimed power in my first post--that should signify I'm up to something.

why wouldnt you let her explain herself and let other people come to a conclusion on her alignment before you start promising her protection? she hasnt even had a chance to respond and youre already saying that shes gonna act frizzled and shit it just doesnt make senseo 2 me. sure if you think shes town let us know, but throwing out a carte blanche "natty gotcha back girl" is pretty ???

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believe #8 puts mati in a potentially undesirable place to be as scum if hes not super confident in his scum game. that was enough for me to townread him at that point (page 1). his followup and thinking about sakura in the exact same fashion as i am solidifies it.

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I just went and ISO'd you to find your question

Then how is a random vote any better?

My vote wasn't 100% random, i think at least 1 of you 3 is scum so i went ahead and picked one at random.

why do you think at least 1 out of 3 of the people doing a reasonless vote are scum? acknowledging that you think 2 of them may be town implies a reasonless vote is something that both town and scum can do. is ther emore substance to it than that?

further, are you still happy with where your vote is? has anything that has happened since literally the first 3 posts of the game affected your reads on any player in any way to a greater extent than 3 reasonless votes at the start of the game?

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whats with the insistence by bad players to not read the thread, ask if were out of rvs yet and refuse to participate until satisfied that we in fact are?

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Jiffy.

Join Natirasha Wagon.

Best Wagon.

hi, its page 6 do you have a scum read yet.

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hello. piegun can you explain to me what your lack of understanding abt how math works says about nachos alignment?

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Ok so Kanye, Deaznuts, Mastin, Nat town. You guys wanna work together?

nope.

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hey masto explain 2 me why drd is town

Everything? :P
Why scum?

pls explain to me how you derived a town read from his one post at the time. also why are you assuming that i have him as scum?

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hello. piegun can you explain to me what your lack of understanding abt how math works says about nachos alignment?

if you're srsly implying my math is wrong, tell me what's wrong plz. oh wait it's impossible cause my math is right :>

anyway, Nacho said something was incorrect when it was correct. This implies he's not really analyzing things or looking at the logic behind people's posts. That implies he's not trying to scumhunt, which I don't see town motivation for = =

your math falls apart when you imply there is a better chance of picking scum from that pool of 3 than simply picking randomly from the entire pool. i can only assume thats what you are implying since theres fuckall point to your statement besides that.

and certainly if he was only trying to argue with you about math he wouldnt be scumhunting, but im pretty sure hes doing shit besides that? to me it looks like your just kneejerking about being mad you tried to make a mathematical statement thats stupid as fuck.

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hey dv. i think you might be scum this game :<

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its better w.o. imo.

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????

why the fuck did you just claim

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im just starin @ your post in disbelief.

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idk... i just looked @ that iso and im really struggling at playing "scum or just bad"

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yiou could have just voted him w.o. claiming? it added absolutely nothing to your position on him. like if youre actually town im a lil mad abt it.

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are you yamichan?

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heres an aside that has absolutely fuck all to do with playing the game Mafia and catching scum players in said game:

your math falls apart when you imply there is a better chance of picking scum from that pool of 3 than simply picking randomly from the entire pool. i can only assume thats what you are implying since theres fuckall point to your statement besides that.

first off, 5/21 = 23.81%.
so there is a better chance. keep in mind how ambiguous the other statement really is, cause there's a 50 whatever chance the set of 3 people we get even has scum in it, and we still don't know which of those people is scum. second off, I wasn't trying to imply that, I was trying to imply Nacho doesn't have town intent.

q: are you literally 17 years old just starting a year of AP (that means its college level and you are smartlmao) Statistics? because thats the vibe im getting.

randomly choosing from the entire pool is 5/21 = 23.81%

when you select your pool of 3 you have a 42% chance of zero scum, 45.11% of exactly 1 scum, 12.03% of exactly 2 scum and 0.75 chance of all 3 being scum.
we now have to randomly select one of those players to lynch! that means we have a 0% chance of selecting scum if there are zero scum in our pool of 3, 15.03% of having exactly one scum in the pool and picking them (45.11*1/3 = 15.03%), 8.02% of there being 2 scum and picking them (12.03*2/3 = 8.02%) and a .75 (.75*1 = .75%) chance of there being 3 scum. add those together and you get *gasp* a 23.81% chance of selecting 3 players and then selecting one player from that group and having it be scum. anmazing, isnt math great please learn how to apply math before you start trying to draw conclusions based on it.

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majiffy is a good vote youre a good person agar i hiope you will inject some much needed sense in2 this game tyvm.: ]

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nacho: do you believe mastin to be the type to try out a fresh new approach in a scum game?

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why the fuck would you even bring it up then? it servers zero point whatsoever.

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why kalimar?

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you did catch that hes v/la yes?

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and why him in particular and not one of the other players who have posted basically (or perhaps even literally) nothing?

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yo agar leviatan is like 100% town.

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yall need to stop throwing around townbloc this townbloc that cus its fucking dumb.simple tiP: vote for scum and comment on cases you like or dislike.

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kanye seems town so far because he's questioning stuff, prodding good players. his townread on natirasha was good and his scumread on sakura is looking better than it should be.

hello nahco could u pls let me know how u came to the conclusion that i have a townread on naty

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I haven't liked your posts so far :/

Well sorry but I can't make you like my posts every single game.

On other news i think kanye and Matias are town, so by PoE from the pool of 3.

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Vote: Empking

why are you trying to play statistics instead of actually scumhunting

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I haven't liked your posts so far :/

Well sorry but I can't make you like my posts every single game.

On other news i think kanye and Matias are town, so by PoE from the pool of 3.

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Vote: Empking

early sakura defenders: is this kinda shjit to be expected from sakura? does it make her more likely town or scum in youer eyes?or is it just null 2

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siometimes i dont post.

i have you slotted directly into the column of my reads labeled "dumbas hell"



unfortunately yioure not alone there. also its more of a row than a column

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if i cared about doing anything w. those things you would know already.

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it has yet to be seen whether your claim was good or not.

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vote mastin

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nacho is probably scum

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im starting to doubt my agar town read too. thats 1 i need to really reconsider. also nacho scum probably means mastio scum is a bit less unlikely which im very :\ abt.

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unvote vote nachp

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also theres a bunch of stuff i havent read that im pretty sure isnt important but ill probably take a look @ it at some point.

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oh yeah, and pv at a cursory kneejerk glance feels town

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nacho stop making posts that made me flip flop my read on u ty.

also pv i pretyt much completely and emphatically disagree w. the majority of your scumreads.

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nacho if you could make any one lynch happen instantly 2day what would it be

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iom gonna catch up 2miorrow i think.

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And if we're not lynching pie we're lynching DV. We're sure as fuck not lynching Agar because fuck you.

this is a good post

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And if we're not lynching pie we're lynching DV. We're sure as fuck not lynching Agar because fuck you.

I'm Asagi Caldwell. I pilot the M1 Astray. My night action is a 1-shot watcher flavorized as a "flight pack".

Pieguy is repeatedly misrepping, using spam-wall scum techniques, as well as

claiming

to be pressuring scumreads while simultaneously voting elsewhere, arguing elsewhere, and generally letting his "scumreads" lurk away wagons. Beyond that, he's exhibiting other scum traits that I have already elaborated on including a significant lack of genuine scumhunting.

Now go fuck yourself.

wth

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oh and I'm Tolle Koenig, my mobile suit has no abilities. =/

can you please clarify that your role pm explicitly states that you possess a mobile suit with no abilities?

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oh and I'm Tolle Koenig, my mobile suit has no abilities. =/

can you please clarify that your role pm explicitly states that you possess a mobile suit with no abilities?

yes, that is correct. I possess a mobile suit with no abilities.

whats your suits name

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oh and I'm Tolle Koenig, my mobile suit has no abilities. =/

can you please clarify that your role pm explicitly states that you possess a mobile suit with no abilities?

yes, that is correct. I possess a mobile suit with no abilities.

im mad as all hell @ this game

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id dint quote that again wth

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nacho pls get indignant abt the shenanigans going on in this game w. me.

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why didnt you shoot nacho

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why didnt you shoot pie

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Levi lets look at the claims
1-shot tracker
1-shot watcher
vig
x-shot dayvig (confirmed role, alignment unsure)

and you're not going to vote the player who clearly slip'n'slide'd all over his story, his intentions, his assumptions

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had a dubious crumb and claim?

Just sayin'.

fyi last time kdub had a stacked town the game was a 18-5-5 multiball. either some of our claims are lies or were up against a very strong scum team.

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team(s)

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yah kalimar is town. he was clearly planning on using his dayvig today and scum with a dayvig doesnt out d1 unless they absolutely have to.

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majiffy sell me on lying piescum pls.

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also im still happy to lynch either dv or nacho as well.

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i think that heavily crumbing it 500 posts ahead of time absolves him there.

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I'd be ok with a Kalimar lynch... I wanna see his answer to my question first, but currently he's hardly posted anything and the posts he's made I can't see any direction in his play. 0.0

I'll be making an impact in this game soon enough. :)

If you had to pick between Majiffy and Empking dying, which would it be?

this is not so subtle pr speak for I HAVE A CONFIRMABLE ROLE

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like thats probably the most telegraphed daykill ive seen in a long time.

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what the flying fuck

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vote: Kalimar

this is an odd reaction for a vig to have to a dayvig.

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And one more question before I forget since I'm going to sleep, do you think pieguy's crumb (which he linked) is BS, or not or what, considering you want Majiffy to sell you on his lynch.

its a terrible crumb but im not decided on whether its genuine or not. i could see it going either way.

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vote dv

i wanna lynch dv.

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huh every single one of arc angels posts is a prod dodge or promise of future activity. i went from being really mad @ that wagon (because i assume its a nacho started wagon) to not actually minding it at all.

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itd actually make me really happy if u vigged nacho actually.

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Just by the way kayne,

I like it a lot better when you typo stuff because when you don't it looks like you're getting way way serious

And based on the few things you've done this game, I don't think that level of seriousness is warranted. I thought you might be town because you came back and did a nacho push but now I'm seeing you do practically nothing to advance the game and you ain't voting AA9 although you're basically saying you might

Hey pie: my current vig pool is:

(Kalimar | Dolittle | Majiffy | Waynegg | Empking | Fuck it Beli) and AA9 if that's not lynched

I would also accept 'I didn't Vig' tomorrow and would like it if you considered town-wifom in your Vig considerations. I'd also like to hear from Nati, Sakura, (fukn Matias isn't replaced), Pyro (especially Syr), possibly dolittle and Nacho too. If we get a pool of three and you Vig what you think best, I'm happy. Is PereV in this game?

just cus im not mad @ the wagon doesnt mean i want to see it come 2 fruition.also im pretty much always serio ous so i dk how u would feel that i am sometimes and then othertimes not.

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i think waynegg is town.

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like i actually really hate your vigpool now that i read it talah.

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iof you want to talk about vig targets that are strong for town despite almost certainly hitting town, leviathan is your guy.

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itd actually make me really happy if u vigged nacho actually.

we can lynch nacho. unfortunately wayne is most likely town, will never be killed and will be used by scum. He's a much better vig target.

can you talk 2 me about nacho. tell me what you think about nacho. because i think im gonna tunnel him but not feel strong enough to actively push it for a minute and thats not really very productive for anyone.

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leviathan is your guy.

Ehhh...
no

oh yeah. i think sakuras another one of those 2. but ive never personally seen sakura make a immense lylo misplay before despite my feelings that shes completely capable of it.

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sometimes thats true sometimes its not

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Actually, you're wrong, I've only won LyLo once and that was because there was confscum on it, all other LyLos as town i've screwed it up. I'm still on the process of improving tho.

youre a step up on leviathan then.

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no offense leviathan i think youre gr8 man but i really sincerely hope you have improved since the last game i played w. you.

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ima ctually pretty happy w. waynes posting and dont get what the problem w. him is.

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ima ctually pretty happy w. waynes posting and dont get what the problem w. him is.

i'm just going to accept that you've had a lot to smoke tonight kanye and pat you on the head and say there there.

You did read his "site meta proves a daykill means town" right? Because huh? I can list you three games off the top of my head where the day kill was scum, so that's just ridiculous.

You're trolling me aren't you. Stahp it.

i can list a game you were in where there were 2 daykills that were town.

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ima ctually pretty happy w. waynes posting and dont get what the problem w. him is.

OK, so sober-me has you as town right now but drunk-me read that and said KILL KILL KILL, so would'st thou kindly explain in what firked-up universe Wayne is town?

I mean, his bargaining attemp with me alone is dirty as fuck. Town doesn't respect me worth shit. Who town would give a damn about earning my vote?

i dont remember the thing youre talking about but his reads have been fairly good imo and a lot of his reactions have been seemingly town motivated 2 me. his kalimar reaction was really good too but i know i would have had no trouble faking a similar reaction as scum so im not reading too heavily into that bit specifically.

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Maybe add Agar for spice.

agar is potentially scum. he was biting at obv mislynch bait levi really hard and hes done a few other subtle things that had slightly irked me.

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yeh belaruse is almost certainly town.

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how come kalimar hasnt posted since he daykilled mastin.

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i guess hes not even posting in the game hes moderating neither tho.

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what the flying fuck

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vote: Kalimar

this is an odd reaction for a vig to have to a dayvig.

pie can u pls explain your thought process here tyvm

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can we all read the 3rd post of this thread where there are sample role pms.

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pie can u pls explain your thought process here tyvm

I've lost all my will for this game seeing as I'm most likely going to die N1, so I was just following Nati literally putting no thought into it whatsoever. I didn't actually think about it till later =A= then I realized he almost certainly has to be mafia dayvig

That's dumb.

but is it dumb town or dumb scum.

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so you think its a scumslip because he used the word activated?

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why

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so you think its a scumslip because he used the word activated?

Yes.

can you explain to me why its a scumslip based on what we know from the sample role pms?

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feigning ignorance and echoing out safe posts

can you quote of examples of this and provide specifics for me please?

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so its not that you think its ascumslip its that you think he is scum for overexplaining and attempting to overcompensate?

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oh and I'm Tolle Koenig, my mobile suit has no abilities. =/

because he's hot THAT"S WHY! jk. i don't know. =P we should assume everyone has mobile suits and either has an ability or doesn't. I'm assuming most people do have an ability.

Why would you assume everybody has a mobile suit?

Do you know the difference between a mobile suit and a mobile armour?

I'm not prepared to dismiss the notion of sans-ability mobile suits, but I can't imagine why they'd be included, but I don't see enough actual mobile suit pilots in the series to fill the playerlist without filling it with mooks while major characters get ignored.

lol. what would be the difference? =P i only have a vague notion of the show. =P and I said I assumed everyone had a ability not necessarily a suit.

oh and I'm Tolle Koenig, my mobile suit has no abilities. =/

can you please clarify that your role pm explicitly states that you possess a mobile suit with no abilities?

yes, that is correct. I possess a mobile suit with no abilities.

oh and I'm Tolle Koenig, my mobile suit has no abilities. =/

can you please clarify that your role pm explicitly states that you possess a mobile suit with no abilities?

yes, that is correct. I possess a mobile suit with no abilities.

whats your suits name

apparently it doesn't have a name. =/ all it says is mobile suit abilities: none

therefore that either means, i don't have a suit at all which is why I don't have abilities, or my suit just is nothing which is why i don't have any abilities. =P

and for people who continually can't read for someone reason, I have stated if a bunch of times. My suit does not have a name. I don't even know if I technically HAVE a suit. it just says I have no suit activated abilities.

i just think hes incredibly confused and this fits my experience w. him. given my town read on him outside of his confused claim posting im inclined to just ignore the whole thing.

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like, where is even the motivation to claim he has a suit when he doesnt have one?

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scummotivation

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btw im still waiting on majiffy or agar or someone to sell me on the pieguy scum how come no1s made ne effort to do that yet.

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like, no one is actively trying to solicit votes for either of the leading wagons and thats a little bit troubling 2 me.

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wait are we really up to 6 claims already?

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also yah i havent read like the 4 pages before when i started posting again because a lot of it was noise so i didnt know how accurate my statement was. ioll have to actually look @ what some of yall are sayin i guess. i was rly hoping someone would summarize their stance nicely and concisely 4 me tho.

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they learn that they dont need to worry about you being a cop or other potential dangerous power role.

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Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

please dont open matias' obvtown slot w. a very scum post ty.

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like, fuck. i was raelly positive about mat town until 4 minutes ago.

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Kanye

Even if you think pie is town

, killing him and eliminating the obv scum choice for NK forces their hand to have to choose thereby giving more chance for POE. Regardless of his alignment pie will yield the most info for town, and that's really what D1 is about. Information. Going off on all these tangents and nobody congealing as a vanguard wedge against scum by this point in the game is foreboding. Pull your collective heads out of your collective butts please and stop acting like premadonnas.

The reasons why there's a good chance of him flipping scum are in the interactions with pieguy and jiffy. ISO them together and it should be easy enough to find.

yeah i read that post the first time and i hated it then i still hate it now.

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i know im just saying sry if that came off as unappreciative : ]

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liet me b a little bit more constructive abt it. i dont want to make any lynch today based solely on whats going to garner information. i want to lynch who is scum. also scum will kill who they will kill tonight and trying to lynch the person they would think is an easy kill choice is just absurd.

now, i do read pie as leaning slightly scum so im not entirely opposed to the idea of their lynch, which is why im trying to discern the reasons other are voting for him. what ive read it looks like majiffy is mad about vig + dayvig, but that alone isnt enough to sell me. i havent read ne of agar yet.

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What's up Kanye?

If we don't get to L-1/L-2 within 3 days, the lynch might not happen. Experience tells me a lynch is better than a no-lynch early game.

how experienced at the game of Forums Mafia would you say that yopu are?

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Site meta dictates a day vig is town. It also dictates that town don't get two extra kills by way of vig (even if in Multiball), ergo Pie is most likely lying scum. Sure, Mhork could have gone off the ranch with his setup, but I'm not getting into setup spec. That house is stacked and a sure fire way to lose.

Town pie being NK'd gives town no info to lead into D2. None.

And in other news, Nat is scum.

oh is this the post that made tammy mad. okay i see where shes comin from now.

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Site meta dictates a day vig is town. It also dictates that town don't get two extra kills by way of vig (even if in Multiball), ergo Pie is most likely lying scum. Sure, Mhork could have gone off the ranch with his setup, but I'm not getting into setup spec. That house is stacked and a sure fire way to lose.

Town pie being NK'd gives town no info to lead into D2. None.

And in other news, Nat is scum.

Site meta dictates a day vig is town. It also dictates that town don't get two extra kills by way of vig (even if in Multiball), ergo Pie is most likely lying scum. Sure, Mhork could have gone off the ranch with his setup, but I'm not getting into setup spec. That house is stacked and a sure fire way to lose.

Town pie being NK'd gives town no info to lead into D2. None.

And in other news, Nat is scum.

Right so we have two claimed town vigs?

Scum kills town vig?

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

WE LYNCH OUTSIDE CLAIMS

thjis is bad logic 2.

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whjy did it put in the previous quote in there 2 i didnt quote that again.

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whos your #1 prettiest most handsome gundam pilot?

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jiffy's arguments actually make a lot of sense.

whtats your read on pie guy

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What's up Kanye?

If we don't get to L-1/L-2 within 3 days, the lynch might not happen. Experience tells me a lynch is better than a no-lynch early game.

how experienced at the game of Forums Mafia would you say that yopu are?

Going on six years, playing and hosting. You?

why do you seem to think that we wont be able to reach a lynch in 3 and a half days?

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paradox prime was fine except for some reason everyone started listening to bad hydras instead of ppl w. sense.

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majiffy. im not mad abt your posting but i cant think of anything youve done in the past bit thats stood out to me. agar is ~saying~ the right things.

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i do agree that the aa wagon is likely to be largely town.

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or he should probably produce some content instead.

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Wayne,

to be completely honest

, I don't think the reason in 1376 is any good.

Oh. So you weren't being honest before? That's good to know. Now you're found scum. This is my favorite tell!

VOTE: DeasVail

dv over pie?

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btw some1 who knows seed flavor pls can u tell me what you expect the different factions (assume multiball or at the very least a powerful 3rd party element) in this game to be given the rolename claims/fakeclaims that have been presented thus far?

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Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

can you please tell me why you voted arc angel in this post?

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can you please tell me why you voted arc angel in this post?

If you read my ISO, you'll know why. Reading is fundamental.

try again but answer the question this time.

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can you please tell me why you voted arc angel in this post?

If you read my ISO, you'll know why. Reading is fundamental.

try again but answer the question this time.

Read my ISO. Don't ask me questions I've already answered.

Keep up the anti-Town behavior and I'll send a vote your way.

Nah, let's do it now. VOTE: kanyeknowsbest

the answer im looking for is not in your iso. answer the question instead of acting like a four year old.

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Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

see heres my problem. you vote aa knowing that shes the lead wagon, but then immediately ask who the lead wagon is. why ask that if you know that aa is the lead wagon already?

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I suddenly feel very enlightened.

Do tell!

I'm losing faith that AA will actually flip scum, and I suddenly have ignited faith that there is scum in the case of the disappearing vig claims.

whats making you lose faith in aa? last i checked shes still ignoring the fuck out of this game and posting elsewhere?

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pieguys inactivity is definitely enticing tho i will admit

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Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

see heres my problem. you vote aa knowing that shes the lead wagon, but then immediately ask who the lead wagon is. why ask that if you know that aa is the lead wagon already?

This is why you lacking fundamental reading skills, In this other incident, you also managed to not read anything I wrote, and then building off of your inherited confusion. I asked WHO WAS LEADING THE WAGON, not what the leading wagon was. I hope you now understand why I treat you the way I do. Is there anything else you'd like to

(deliberately?)

misinterpret or ignore?

so, as scum, what do you believe i hope to accomplish my misinterpreting that first post?

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Anyways, got any questions you'd like to ask?

Why does having a suit make you town?

Wrong question.

Here's one more suitable for you to ask:

"Why does knowing an exact name of a Gundam Seed character and ship/suit/whatever (when you're a person who doesn't know what Gundam is) NOT make you a Townie?

surely yiouve heard of a thing called a fake claim before.

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take it a stiep further and Kdub, the moderator of this game of mafia in which we are playing, absolutely gives scum fake claims that are safe to claim.

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Well, hell, where to begin? I don't know diddly about Gundam, but I do have a weird name and stuff. Why not claim our names at least? Probably less than half of us know the names in the Gundam thingy.

Anyways, we got less than four days and we need 11 to break through. SO...

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Oh, and who's leading that wagon and why are people joining it?

see heres my problem. you vote aa knowing that shes the lead wagon, but then immediately ask who the lead wagon is. why ask that if you know that aa is the lead wagon already?

This is why you lacking fundamental reading skills, In this other incident, you also managed to not read anything I wrote, and then building off of your inherited confusion. I asked WHO WAS LEADING THE WAGON, not what the leading wagon was. I hope you now understand why I treat you the way I do. Is there anything else you'd like to

(deliberately?)

misinterpret or ignore?

so, as scum, what do you believe i hope to accomplish my misinterpreting that first post?

Hm, well, I dunno. Here, let's open up Pandora's Box.

Disiniformation, confusion, potential mislynching, pissing off people, and general douchery name a few.

how are making people mad @ u and "general douchery" scum motivated? do you honestly believe that such an easily clarified and corrected mistake has the potential to lead to a mislynch or any lasting disinformation?

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Pretty hard to fake-claim exact characters and things from some obscure manga universe, isn't it?

You do know that the mod would give fake claims to scum right? That being said tho, I already claimed my character, do you think wrt your flavor = alignment expectancy am i town, scum or TP?

P-Edit: it isn't stupid, it's called avoiding people from breaking your game via flavor.

Eh, I never really cared much for flavored games, and this is my first flavored theme game I've played. Just decided to jump in via replacement and, WOAH, machines and battlefields and morphing tiger ninja machines with samurai blades.

...I can see the reason for that protective function, though.

What I'm trying to ascertain from the majority here is whether or not I should reveal my flavor text and abilities, and WHY. That's one thing I'm seeking, even if I have to pull it out of people.

see heres my problem. you vote aa knowing that shes the lead wagon, but then immediately ask who the lead wagon is. why ask that if you know that aa is the lead wagon already?

This is why you lacking fundamental reading skills, In this other incident, you also managed to not read anything I wrote, and then building off of your inherited confusion. I asked WHO WAS LEADING THE WAGON, not what the leading wagon was. I hope you now understand why I treat you the way I do. Is there anything else you'd like to

(deliberately?)

misinterpret or ignore?

so, as scum, what do you believe i hope to accomplish my misinterpreting that first post?

Hm, well, I dunno. Here, let's open up Pandora's Box.

Disiniformation, confusion, potential mislynching, pissing off people, and general douchery name a few.

how are making people mad @ u and "general douchery" scum motivated? do you honestly believe that such an easily clarified and corrected mistake has the potential to lead to a mislynch or any lasting disinformation?

Scum does make people mad at times on person to sow dissension and contention. Get people mad enough and, hey, you might not get more than half of'em to agree on something, right? No one can know for sure the repercussions, Kanye. How about you stick with not asking questions that are so damned obvious that they've been posted more than once, and reading and, well, actually comprehending what's actually been said before making unsophisticated remarks?

your not very good at this game are you?

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vote pieguy

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sry that was a rhetoricla q. myb 4 making it seem otherwise 2 u.

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vote pieguy

:(

why. im not happy w. either of the 3 players on the chopping block right now, but i think im least happy w. pieguys. a think a true honto vig would have had a lil bit different of a reaction 2 kalimar and i dbl think that he knows kalimar would flip town :I

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that said, if pie wants to claim serial killer and play ball w. town then im absolutely opposed to his lynch.

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well if were going that route he needs to come clean. im not fucking around w. an obvious sk who refuses to admit the fact and at least attempt to appear as an honest and willing boon to town.

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also yeah. matias was obvtown as hell but i just needed to work out wakes mentality.

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your not very good at this game are you?

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still rhteorical btw

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limited shot dayvig and unlimited night vig are 2 very different things and only one of them is a common serial killer claim

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 6&sr=posts

yiep pie can go ahead and strike a deal or die afaic

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okay but how does that relate to aa being less likely to flip scum.

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okay so lets suppose pie comes in and decides to come clean and offers full cooperation with town. who do we lynch with one day left at that point?

this is an open question to everyone pushing pie aswell.

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is that a sk confession?

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dont feel bad pie, its completely towards your wincon to claim at this point if staying alive is part of it. could you fullclaim the details of your wincon and your full flavor please?

unvote

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ty.

thoughts on vig targets nats/majiffy/belaruse?

personally id like to speedwagon someone and throw the kill at aa. gonna consider more when im home in an hr or two

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a speedlynch requires input from a majority and gives us some small amount of information. a policy lynch gives far less.

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Sorry that wasn't a listed option.

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drd what made you change your stance on levi from town early day to scum later in the day?

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wayne can u please stop poking @ the sk were in crunch time right now.

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nats opinion on dv?

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like seriously, wayne. youre killing me here. why are you trying to argue with admitted scum when we have better shit to be doing? do you hope to unravel a sudden reveal on his alignment?

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its d1. pie has to play ball for a long time if he wants to have a chance at seeing endgame.

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Nope. Wrong. Every time town takes this dumbass step it backfires in their faces. No. No. No.

1v1

He or me.

Lynch known scum or lynch a known town.

thats not how it works actually.

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Nats pull your head out of your ass, I was pulling a reconsideration after some ISOs. Does Empking look town to you?

yes.

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i wanna lynch dv over drd honsetly.

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huh how do you see him as town

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For us all to use Pie guy, let's cast pseudo-votes on who he should kill.

hionestly your inputs not needed here.

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nats how confident are you on drd

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can you pls rage now agar? because im considering in the back of my mind trying 2 point the wagon @ u. i wanna know who u want lynched fast.

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like right now my pool of who id want dead is nacho, dv, pyrotammics, agar and maybe svengst, but i think i might be premature on that last 1.

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oh we actually have more time to work with than i thought. i thought we were <24 already but were still 36 hrs to go. okay ifeel less rushed now

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she doesnt. she gets sk bullets.

the use of that knowledge likely depends on the alignment and mechanics entailed in the partner role. i dont plan to openly speculate on th ematter at this point.

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the argument that "there will be more dead people faster" is dumb. people are gonna end up dead, whats important is the ratio of people that town decides to kill compared to the the people that scum decide to kill. assuming we kill the sk and there are no other killing roles in the game its a simple 1:1 ratio. we lynch they nk, repeat. with a leashed sk in the mix, it becomes 2:1 in favor of town. scum get less free nightkills before the game ends. now, the only argument against this is IF the town is stacked with some serious multishot power roles. while i think our town is likely power heavy, i do not think it is heavy in that manner such that we benefit from a longer game.

leaving pie around is to our benefit.

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I'm ignoring the "while posting elsewhere" as it is a statement that cannot be refuted or denied without discussing ongoing games. The proper response is to prod AA9. Also, the post you quoted had 9 votes for AA9. It would not have made sense for an SK to claim at that point.

The most recent votecount has 7 v 7 for AA9 and Piegun. Your argument was very suggestive and poor. You get scum points for it.

its discussing ongoing games if you comment on the actual activity in that game. simply stating they are posting elsewhere does not violate this, and is a subjective tell.

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vote dv

ill accept the drd lynch over a pie lynch if literally no one else in this entire game wants to lynch dv :<

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hi majiffy. were not lynching pieguy today. dwi.

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it would be a viable wagon if you werent so obstinate abt making the wrong decision

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it is when theyre claimed and its d1 in a 21 player large !

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vote drd

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this argument is really fucking dumb.

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i honestly thought u were a better player than this majiffy.

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yw

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ty for adding more pages that im not ever gonna read.

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i just relaized that tammytechnics has not had a single thing to say about all of this. can we lynch her tomorrow (or now?)?

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pie still isnt happening.

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majiffy pls explain 2 me how u can see pyrotehcnis as having any remote chance of being town?

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majiffy pls explain 2 me how u can see pyrotehcnis as having any remote chance of being town?

If you're town, your scumdar is officially borked.

Also I doubt very very seriously that pie is group scum. Bel's flavor suggests that reu is a serial killer, and he is who he says he is. Also, Sakura I'm pretty sure you're misinterpreting the mental link portion of his role.

I'm not reading all of today's argument. I favor leashing an sk. It worked really well for us in mafia stuck when mehdi tried yo pretend to be the town VIG. But, we formed a town bloc in that game and mehdi took direction from us so it was more organized. Also, I think town would have had a better chance of winning Harry potter if they would have leashed me, but benmage was playing the role that majiffy is playing this game and made sure to push my lynch through. I don't see how leashing for a couple days at least could harm town at all, except for this town doesn't have any organization or strong town block to make it work so it might not be worth it. I'll need to read back over dr. Though.

A current vote count would be awesome.

strong decision except you forgot to vote drd.

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@kdub i am voting drd, not pie ty

Fixed

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kanye- arent you arguing to leash thevig? youre voting dr. d.

my problem with leaving pie alive is mostly that mental link. it can only be triggered by a specific set of circumstances, which might not happen, but who knows what the mental link actually is. im not real sure a mental link with a serial killer is cool.

still thinking. ill do whatever to avoid a no lynch though.

Also wake is like super town town. I just don't see him faking that not knowing that scum would have fake claims like he did. Read real.

And Titus replaced Kalimar so he might be town since pie is not actually a vig. The only thing I worry about it a scum joat with a day kill, but I don't know how likely that is with an SK. Would still like to know if his flavor made sense for a day vig though.

i can think of some possible positive implications the link may entail.

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Prod received.
i know i am giving tough time in this game... but now i am so behind and it takes forever to catch up...
so i decided to follow game from this point then becoming more lazy to catch all those pages...

so who is dying today?

drd and then you are dying 2nite (rip)

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Prod received.
i know i am giving tough time in this game... but now i am so behind and it takes forever to catch up...
so i decided to follow game from this point then becoming more lazy to catch all those pages...

so who is dying today?

drd and then you are dying 2nite (rip)

ufff.....!!!
what are you? Is this some-kind of trick to prove that you empower some special skills
or just to covering up yourself as the opportunity presumes?

eitherwayz you will end up wasting your shot!! Good luck!!

if youd like to claim why we shouldnt send a bullet your way id love to hear why. if its a thing that can be confirmed, with a bullet, then thats great i think !

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I don't think AA should be shot anymore.

because she showed up at 14 hrs til deadline after lurking past a significant wagon on her and continued to produce no content?

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eitherwayz you will end up wasting your shot!! Good luck!!

if this isnt a softclaim then i double want you dead.

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and would actually much rather have Empking shot.

why empking

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I don't think AA should be shot anymore.

because she showed up at 14 hrs til deadline after lurking past a significant wagon on her and continued to produce no content?

that's called being inactive..not lurking. :roll:

its called bite down on a bullet please

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im still happy w. aa getting killed.

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if youre gonna be arnd 4 a minute i want to hear why nacho wants empking shot over aa now

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why the rush?

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we have 14 hours left, drd is at L-1, pyro has offered to hammer, and there is last minute discussion about how to use our sk kill. there is no reason to rush.

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VOTE: Unvote

It goes against my win condition to use the SK to potentially kill Townies.

did u just confess 2 not having the town wincon

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uh no agar. more nights is better if we have strong prs, less nights if we have weak ones. were the latter case with a bunch of one shots. like i dont even know how thats a debate point