Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #5

DrDolittle (1)

- talah

kanyeknowsbest (0)

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Belisarius (1)

- Kalimar

waynegg (1)

- Belisarius

pieguyn (0)

-

Yraelz (0)

-

PeregrineV (0)

-

leviathan93 (0)

-

Kise (0)

-

Empking (2)

- waynegg, dopog

Majiffy (0)

-

dopog (0)

-

Sakura Hana (4)

- DrDolittle, Matias, kanyeknowsbest, Empking

NachoKoopa (0)

-

DeasVail (1)

- mastin2

Matias (1)

- leviathan93

Mac (0)

-

talah (0)

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Natirasha (3)

- Natirasha, pieguyn, PeregrineV

mastin2 (2)

- Sakura Hana, NachoKoopa

Kalimar (0)

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No lynch (0)

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Not voting (5)

- Yraelz, Kise, Majiffy, Mac, DeasVail

21 votes available
11 votes needed to lynch

V/LA: Mac (9/30), Sakura Hana (9/30)

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-18 12:44:27)

[waynegg]

wayne town

Perpetually...


I'll do a reread later tonight and get this moving so we can find some scumz!

[Natirasha]

I ride the self-vote train as long as people care.

Also, I recommend going and rereading the sign up thread. That might help signify my rashness this game.

[Sakura Hana]

What else are you thinking? What do you think of my reads?

You're the almighty nacho, so i shall... follow your reads I also agree with you on mastin, and the rest of his posts dont dissapoint in that regard.

[waynegg]

So Matias.. how do you like the chances of scumMastin having voted a scumbuddy in his first 'serious vote' of the game?

@mastin - do you think deasvail's vote on dolittle had a lot of meat on it? I wouldn't have bothered voting dv until she offered a reason for it. But I'm open to suggestion.

So, how do you like the chances scum is playing divide and conquer here?

Why I think DrDolittle is scum:

66 strongly suggests that he has a scumread on Sakura/is pretty invested in the wagon, and that his vote in 19 was serious. What I'm wondering though is why he didn't share his reasoning for Sakura being scum. If town are making a serious vote during what is still semi-RVS, they want to show everyone how smart they are and share their reasoning! Despite the resistance to Sakura-scum, he doesn't get very involved in trying to read her or gathering support (Matias and kanye's play around Sakura appears a lot more genuine by comparison). While I do have doubts, I don't think his play is particularly unlikely to come from scum so far either so I'm pretty happy with my vote here.

Wow. So. Right.
Are you saying you somehow reverse-telegraphed your scumread on dolittle, which you first mentioned when his only post was a naked vote?
Didn't I do exactly the same thing as him, in naked voting and then reaffirming that he was a choice vote?

What do you think of mastin?

It's cute when scum try so hard to look like town <3

VOTE: Talah

I think there's a whole lot of town pointing fingers at other town thus far, which would explain how slowly this game is moving. Talah is the only player posting regularly who seems to have a scum agenda. There's been no cross voting. This game is definitely starting oddly compared to any game I've played. It looks like the rest of team scum may be lurking. While it's easy enough to say, scum rarely actually does that so it wouldn't be a bad strategy.

As far as inactives go, neither Yraelz nor Mac have posted even once. I'd be willing to vote either of them at this point, but I'm not holding my breath to get much of a response from them, so Talah it is!

[pieguyn]

@Matias: ok, I can see town intent in your posts so you're town for me :>

Have you ever played with Ms. Hana before? She's....easily frazzled, so to speak.

Nah it's fine Nati, I'm trying to improve in that regard...

So I thought I'd help her in her endeavor.

I like this. tho it'd be more effective if you at least put some reasons in there

What's wrong with what I said?

you were stopping people from pressuring Sakura more, when that situation could give town more information.

Your math might be a little bit off.

okay no
let's assume 5/21 mafia. then if we get 3 random people, the chance of all of them being town is (16/21) * (15/20) * (14/19) ~ 42.11%, meaning there's more than a 50% chance one out of a random group of 3 people is scum. there's probably even more mafia and maybe an SK so the real chance is even higher. IMO, this just shows you're not even trying and are just throwing things around to look like you're doing something.

unvote, vote: NachoKoopa

[waynegg]

No need for reasons wit Sakura from me, but you wouldn't know that

[kanyeknowsbest]

hello. piegun can you explain to me what your lack of understanding abt how math works says about nachos alignment?

[kanyeknowsbest]

Ok so Kanye, Deaznuts, Mastin, Nat town. You guys wanna work together?

nope.

[kanyeknowsbest]

hey masto explain 2 me why drd is town

Everything? :P
Why scum?

pls explain to me how you derived a town read from his one post at the time. also why are you assuming that i have him as scum?

[Kdub]

AGar replaces Yraelz, who did not pick up his role PM.

[pieguyn]

hello. piegun can you explain to me what your lack of understanding abt how math works says about nachos alignment?

if you're srsly implying my math is wrong, tell me what's wrong plz. oh wait it's impossible cause my math is right :>

anyway, Nacho said something was incorrect when it was correct. This implies he's not really analyzing things or looking at the logic behind people's posts. That implies he's not trying to scumhunt, which I don't see town motivation for = =

[DeasVail]

Talah, did you look at DrDolittle's previous games?

Ok so Kanye, Deaznuts, Mastin, Nat town. You guys wanna work together?

I'm not sure what this would involve, but ok! Mastin is still kind of ehhhh for me and I feel like it's excluding other people that are pretty town, but otherwise I'm fine with it. Maybe we can have code names! (Although I don't know what to think of Deaznuts )

Regarding Talah, I've actually really liked his/her play so far and think it's a level beyond what scum would bother doing (referring in particular to the DrDolittle vote and questioning of me here). I can't really understand your scumread at the moment.

Ok yeah, I don't feel comfortable with this anymore. His play here is really weird compared to previous games, but in a way that's a towntell and I feel like I'm just forcing the scumread at this point.

Unvote: DrDolittle

I don't have anyone in mind as a scumread right now, and I'm going to be out for a fair bit of the day, so I'll see if anything pops out at me when I get back.

You look extremely skittish.

Do you feel like you're supposed to have a super strong scum read right now? I certainly don't have anything major (other than Sakura, and that's on the coattails of my RVS phase) and I'm not fretting about it.

It doesn't have to be strong at all, but no one has anything that makes me excited at all about pressuring them and it's become a concerning trend for me lately.

Nachokoopa, I didn't think he was scummy and had more exciting options. My standards are probably lower now and I may consider it. I'll get back to you!

Well we didn't want you anyway kanye!

~~

Ok Nacho, do you think Mastin would really be this minimal as scum? I know that if I were to experiment with something like that I'd make sure to do it with a town game and would just do standard 'look as town as I can' as scum and I suspect Mastin would feel the same way.

Vote: Majiffy

This is the best I can think of right now.

[kanyeknowsbest]

hello. piegun can you explain to me what your lack of understanding abt how math works says about nachos alignment?

if you're srsly implying my math is wrong, tell me what's wrong plz. oh wait it's impossible cause my math is right :>

anyway, Nacho said something was incorrect when it was correct. This implies he's not really analyzing things or looking at the logic behind people's posts. That implies he's not trying to scumhunt, which I don't see town motivation for = =

your math falls apart when you imply there is a better chance of picking scum from that pool of 3 than simply picking randomly from the entire pool. i can only assume thats what you are implying since theres fuckall point to your statement besides that.

and certainly if he was only trying to argue with you about math he wouldnt be scumhunting, but im pretty sure hes doing shit besides that? to me it looks like your just kneejerking about being mad you tried to make a mathematical statement thats stupid as fuck.

[kanyeknowsbest]

hey dv. i think you might be scum this game :<

[DeasVail]

Well I'm in the town bloc and you're not so...

Seriously though, well actually I don't know what to say. I guess I wish you didn't?

[DeasVail]

That first line should probably have a with it.

[kanyeknowsbest]

its better w.o. imo.

[talah]

Hey. Waynegg. Sweet.

Caught your post and have just flicked forward to post this. So now I have a question which occurred to me at the time.

Did you out your ENTIRE scumteam in that one post earlier?

You haven't even given a reason for any of them being town! Just "hey they're town townbloc yo"

And, how in the LORD'S HOLY FUCKING NAME can *I* be playing divide an conquer either as scum or town? Scum don't divide and conquer MASTIN and DEASVAIL, mastin of whom was

voting

deasvail? Probably based on picking up my own tell on des? Because otherwise he hasn't explained it? His gutread?

Town are awesome dividing and conquering scum - YEY. And picking up on stupid troll tells YEY.

VOTE: waynegg

My suit has 1-shot tracker, trump that BEATCH.

[kanyeknowsbest]

????

why the fuck did you just claim

[kanyeknowsbest]

im just starin @ your post in disbelief.

[DeasVail]

Ok then.

PEdit: Ok then!

Yeah, I don't know. Probably not scum though?

[kanyeknowsbest]

idk... i just looked @ that iso and im really struggling at playing "scum or just bad"

[talah]

Also, do, do, tell me about my scum agenda. In slow motion awesome shocking detail please.

And Des - no of course I didn't "go back and read dolittle's games" - and yet I

am

was voting him. How strange huh?

[talah]

Who cares if I claim. It ruins any option I'd have later if I was scum. I hated waynegg's townbloc post anyway. Was tempted to say "I want in" but basically the post struck me as a gambit. So I don't care.

And now I'll frack off.