268: Bugsy Malone Mafia - Game over. Mod learns lesson

[broomhead]

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[broomhead]

All rules are subject to change in part or in whole at the whim of the mod without warning or notification. Use of this thread indicates acceptance of all of these terms and conditions as well as any other terms and conditions that may be added in the future.

Oh and it is against the constitution to impose an ex-post-facto law that states, (not a direct quote from constitution) you may not impose penalties for crimes that have been committed before the said law is passed.

Just a heads up, looking out for everyone's constitutional rights

[broomhead]

FOS: alexander

, only because he was in my last game and he was quite good at minipulating people. thats all i really have to say considering no one else has said a word in the whole game.

[broomhead]

pfft, i have a FOS and a vote, take that, show biz hate me more

[broomhead]

but then, how else would you choose to start a mafia game? if no one get disscussion rolling, then no one says anything and nothing gets done, i mean even from the few random votes that have happened, you can tell alot by the people who react to being voted for and the people who are just natural defenders and will defend no matter weather they are the votee or not.

[broomhead]

yey for being the first bandwagon-ee

[broomhead]

i think chaotic_diablo is trying to be... "out there". because if your moves are always weird and unpredicted, no one can really guess your role, and well i guess he sucseded.

[broomhead]

1) I am just guessing, thats kinda what this game is all about, guessing about roles and motives, 2) I have a huge problem spelling, and when I run certian word through the spell check, i don't check for content as I should. I'll try to do better next *sniff* I won't disapoint you. *tear roles down cheeck* P.S. yes I know role is suposed to be roll.

[broomhead]

How many to murder?

i think it'll be 7 to murder becasue there's 12 of us(12/2=6. round up to 7)

[broomhead]

Correction: 1 kicked the buckt, so it is now 6 to lynch.

[broomhead]

Pariah, if I may ask: why only a FOS, you don't currently have a vote on anyone, why not just vote Chaotic instead of just FOS'ing him. He’s in no danger of anything.

Well that’s the main reason for FOS’ing someone, you just want everyone to know what you think and not have people start jumping all around and prematurely voting and killing someone who shouldn't be killed. I like FOS only because I like to sit on the fence till I’m sure of something or just angry. Let’s not pressure anyone to vote before their ready ok?

[broomhead]

Not saying that I don't appreciate you willingness to unvote me and vote someone else, it’s just that I’d like to know why. And if you were the one that wanted to keep all reason to herself, that’s fine. But the main reason I’d like to know good reason of suspicious people is because I really have none of my own, and would like to know what others think.

[broomhead]

I'd kinda like to do an unofficial vote count, but I'd like to have it done to kinda recheck the mod's. and i am not purposefully "forgetting" someone, so if i miss someone, let me know, and we'll fix it.

Vote for:_________Voter:__________Post #:

Broomhead__-1-___ Talitha__________#40
Pariah______-2-____MeMe+Fritzler____#74+#94
N_Lich______-1-____Tamuz__________#84
Foolster41___-1-____N_Lich__________#98

I think the two posts of unvoting Mr. Mod missed were #85 + #91. Tell me if I am wrong.

[broomhead]

Alex: you sound a little sore about the whole FOS thing, it was just the first vote, and i really didn't want to random vote, so previous game experience was all i had to go on.

unFOS: Alexander

[broomhead]

i'd like to point out in the whole

I figured that if the most experienced player in the game fingered those 3, at least one will turn up scum.

the assumption is that MeMe is a townie and she is looking for scum. no one ever brought up that she could be scum and she's just pointing out random people. maybe thats why none of her reasons are very good, because the people she'd pointing out people that are inncocent.

[broomhead]

*raises elbow*
I'm gunna go with a half raise, they weren't great, but at this point in the game there acceptable. and in my previous post, i wasn't saying that your votes were bad, but i was kinda thinking it, i was saying that we're all assuming your town, and if your not then all the voting makes sense for a mafia member.

[broomhead]

when I vote, my vote will stay. if it seems that I don't vote much, you're right. You'll just have to wait till i find someone scummy enough or a deadline is implemented.

[broomhead]

Am I interpreting this wrong or are you saying you aren't going to unvote someone once you vote no matter what? Regardless of defense or further evidence?

No, that means that when I vote, I'll be sure of it at the time. It does not mean that once vote I will not listen to anything else. But it does also mean that i'm pretty sure of this person(again, unless a deadline is imposed, then I just vote to have my vote counted)

[broomhead]

and I'd also like to point out, i don't know the movie very well at all, so that would mean that I'd have to claim my role and only that. and another thing, you said yourself that if someone claimed an in between role you'd consider them scum, and if they claimed and obvious role they're suddenly clear. So i guess your advice to the mafia to claim a "good" role defeats this whole role claim thing.

so here's my role claim: Frank. (seriously i made that up, if that's a real charter props for me. i really have no clue so if it is a role, don't overanalyze please)

[broomhead]

umm, i know i don't like double posts but I'd like to point out that the first half of my post was cut off, so, what i was going to say was, " too many people lie when role claim happens, good and bad"



and PS, pariah and i posted at almost the same time.

[broomhead]

Speaking of obscure, what the hell is "Frank", and what's up with the "I made it up" part? Ayelin, for example, was "Tallulah", she had an actual name, I'm sure all of us have actual names. Didn't you receive an ACTUAL NAME when you got your role?

okay, first off,

it was a joke!

bring it down a notch,

secondly, Alex, if your so high on role claiming, go for it, throw out a role claim, be bold and strong. *sarcastically*

lead us all

*rolls eyes*

[broomhead]

OK for that last time

JOKE JOKE JOKE

and on a worse note, I'm leaving for a few days on family business and i won't be back till Friday or so, if that's too long, I'm fine with a replace, but I'd rather stay in the game

[broomhead]

well the first thing that pops into my head is, what role did she play, is s/he good or bad, and what could s/he do at night?

[broomhead]

well, i guess i am all for getting a move on this day, not a single hour should be wasted,

Vote: claim

[broomhead]

maybe i missed something, but who is maz, did he replace Alexander? oh and while I'm at it, who is stark, unless I've missed something in the game, or they haven't posted much, I'd like to know who each of you are replacing

[broomhead]

so how long do we wait for a counter claim?

[broomhead]

well i am not fat same either, but the real question is, once we finish we fat SAM, should we ask for more volunteers (I'll go next) or make people claim, so mafia can't sit in the corner and wait a little bit. so try and catch them early and not wait.

[broomhead]

well i think that we should take a step from claiming for a sec to discuss who we lost last night, sounds like the only female character, and if what someone said before eluding that a female character could be a doc... i think we need to think about who and what we have left, and this is assuming 3 mafia, if we've lost our doc, we've still got a cop, and possible back up doc, we've got the other roles, ig. masons, vig, sk. so i am guessing it should look like this with name claims associated to roles,
3 mafia
1 cop
1vig/sk (don't think there would be more)
3 masons (some of the people lost could have been in this category)
2 vanilla town (possibly one doc in here)


well the whole point of this ramble was to say that we've got 1 good role claimed. leaves 9 more to be delt.

[broomhead]

got to calm down about the opposing clans, i went to the movie store to rent the movie but it was already gone, so that means one of you lives near me, maybe the one who lost the movie...yes that's me, i vibrate mafia, you just wait till i claim.

[broomhead]

what does that mean? does it mean that you don't want to say because it will convit you, or am i missing something because i have never seen the movie?

[broomhead]

yes i am going to second that for a scum group, you (maz) seemed to be defending foolster a bit much for this whole thing, and i don't like the idea that only maz knows of this, i would like to hear form at least 2 others about the whole "down and out" role and weather its real in the movie, i would also like to go a little out of order on the name claim and ask for a vanilla townie to come forward and say if the have a real townie name like blousey, or if there are more "down and outs"

we'll also find out if the down and out claim is a good one depending on weather there are any dandy dans at the end of the whole name claim.

in the meantime

vote Maz

P.S. maz, you seemed to be pushing the no ability town thing a little much, next time, go for subtlety.

[broomhead]

well i seem to always complain about a double post, and I've seen a triple here and there, but a 5 series post? jeeze. the only reason why'd you want to 5x post is because you kept thinking of a reason why you shouldn't be voted for or be mafia. an innocent person would have his/her reasons and lay them out all at once in order because they know the reasons already, they don't need to think of them

[broomhead]

oh man, i am soooo mad(if you can't tell that's sarcasm) man, if i could vote for you twice i would, wait, maybe i shall.

unvote Vote Maz

Mod: sorry to do that to you

[broomhead]

first of all with votes we can. and secondly, i think i will be proved innocent with my name claim, and have the buds to back it up, so far, unlike you, no one has helped your little down and out claim yet.

[broomhead]

perchance, it would be your decision. and i am sorry about the whole maz thing and my confusing him with a claim, i need to go to bed and its only 10, that's sad

[broomhead]

first, i've got a proper name all the way. secondly i agree with MeMe and we shall lynch foolster. so

unvote, vote: Foolster

and lastly, i am happy if you guys want me to claim next, i just say we either keep claiming or call it a day and lynch foolster.

[broomhead]

so is the main consensus that i should claim?

[broomhead]

first sorry to have been gone on such an important day, second, i agree that we keep the name claim going, third, i am Snake-Eyes - Thug. fourth, i want MeMe to go next, fifth,

unvote

because i am just not sure anymore. i think i got everything i wanted to say out, i am tired and sick, see you all tomorrow.

oh, and all i am going to say is tamuz, don't lie, your no mason at all. Stop lying, that is all i know, goodnight.

[broomhead]

tam: why do you want votes for MeMe isn't that suggesting too much, "oh la, de da, say guys, why don't you vote for MeMe"-tam(or at least thats how i saw it. and yes MeMe, my dislike for Maz is mighty tempting to make him go next, but the only reason i choose you, is for your unwillingness to go further, and now i do believe we should finish the

mass

name claim.(and yes i know i changed my mind from before, deal with it)

[broomhead]

well sorry for the miss read, but i still think that voting for her would be wrong, i think that if we start voting for people because they don't name claim would be bad because what if she was the doc and her name wasn't something that couldn't be interpreted another way, what if it was "Frank the nurse"(and i know, for the LAST freakin time, there is no frank, i made frank up, and ya'll can just deal with it!)(sorry couldn't help myself) i think that MeMe will go if we just get the majority again, and if we don't then we'll vote. but i think the majority will pull through, even if MeMe is being difficult.

[broomhead]

here's an idea, MeMe if you claim, you get to choose maz. oh, and i am sure adele doesn't want to stop because as he's stated before, he's the top target for scum, who wouldn't want to bump off the top town if they were scum? he just wants everyone's claim out there. maybe we should stop doing this in a one by one order and have everyone on their next post claim or we assume scummy. but just to play both sides o the argument(MeMe's) then the scum would wait till most of the town claimed. i think that needs more discussion.

[broomhead]

so now that there is a very nice summary of what has happened, can we come to a decision to what next?

[broomhead]

Tamuz wrote:
Adele Broom & mysterious man #3 I would like at least two of you to give me a statement with the utmost conviction that you KNOW via the mod that your masonic partners are INNOCENTS.
I have checked with the mod, who has guaranteed it absolutely. Broomhead and the Mystery Man are pro-town. I don't know if broomhead confirmed it with the mod, but I do know that Mr. Mysterious did. However, I've no inclination to make him come out before he has to; I'd rather minimise pro-town claims until we agree to universal claims. Of course, if we get one more person pro-claim then it'll be resolved very soon.

i know you wanted to hear from me, and i didn't really understand the question, so what adele says is my answer and as to not look scummy and weasel out of the question, i think what your asking is if i confirmed that i am in a mason and not scum, and have confirmed with the mod, yes, that is true. if i misinterpreted your question, let me know.

on another note, I'd like people who've seen the movie to comment on the names, lena and leroy, and what kinda part they play, and since i don't know the captain very well either, explain him too, sorry i am getting the movie.

[broomhead]

well considering i assume we can guess who he is, what do you guys think of all the claims? i mean i am going to guess the mod said wait a day so he could provide safe claims for all the scum. and i hate to say it, but so far foolster is the only one who seems scummy enough to lynch right now and that's only because he with help info-right or wrong-. but I'd like to hear discussion before anyone gets voting happy

[broomhead]

maz wrote:

No point in wasting today's lynch on him when we can hang diablo or broomhead

why do you want to lynch me? i am proven town, so deal with it!

Vote: maz

[broomhead]

so what is the vote count for foolster, and maz, as long as someone is counting

[broomhead]

kill maz, i agree. just because i do not like him

[broomhead]

i am going to wait till i see a vote count before i unvote/different vote, i mean foolster really should be lynched because he has the scummiest claim by far, and then maz should be lynched because he is the scummiest in general

[broomhead]

I reckon Stark's claim and Fritzler's claim support each other. Stark knew there was some "knuckles"-type quality

as i think-or want to believe that he's innocent, he could have just guessed at a likely charter to be in this game, almost like saying, i think there's someone named bugsy in this game. just playing devil's advocate here.

[broomhead]

hmmm, point well taken

[broomhead]

god i need to know weather he is or not! i hate this time, maybe foolster should tell us?

[broomhead]

back to the subject of lynching maz, as much as i wanted him dead yesterday, i think he

may

be telling the truth, and not because of his 75% chance to save somebody thing, because if maz isn't the doc, where the hell was s/he?

[broomhead]

No, I'ma punch YOU in the face. >_<

maybe he meant that he gets to choose who he beats up?
should we still be talking or no?

[broomhead]

we all know your lynched, just tell us! a simple yes or no will suffice, unless you saying yes or know will literally tear apart the fabric of the universe

[broomhead]

why is tam pro town again?

[broomhead]

i do agree with adele, and if it wasn't 4 to lynch i would vote right now, but i want to hear some stuff from her first...and that stuff is what adele asked... she beat me to it. I refer you all to 686. read, then answer the questions, i do not predict this day to last too long, so if you're next post doesn;t contain an answer, or explanation to why you cannot answer...*insert evil music* sorry for being short, but it was a necessity.

[broomhead]

[quote="MeMe"]Indeed.

I'm rather tired of people simply dismissing valid points with a wave of the hand and an abbreviation. Everyone uses it in mafia at times because, in the absence of absolutes, it's a necessity. "Which makes more sense? This one or that one? On one hand

this

...on the other

that

."

well i do not know what that acroynymn means, but what i do know is that sometimes other people have infomation that you don't. try to see it from the other person prespective,

I

know i am town, believe me or not, and pretend you think i am scum, i say i am not, i

know

i am right, because i have info you don't.

[broomhead]

you're saying, basically "don't listen to her -- lynch, lynch, lynch." I think the lack of more votes might indicate that my posts are at least being considered

well when you put down a challenge like can't be night killed-weather for good or bad- it is mighty tempting, just thought i'd let you know.

and thanks for the princess bride lesson, i just saw that movie.

thoughts for now:(all my own, and from my beliefs, not necessarily yours.)
people alive:
Adele
broomhead
chaotic_diablo
Fritzler
MeMe
Pariah
Tamuz

i am going to guess 2 scum left because i believe that that's how the mod tried to balance out the game 3 masons + doc and cop, and 4 mafia with varying night abilities(yes that's what i think, i even think the mafia have their own doc or something as good as that)

so here's my break down on the people

Adele-town, i believe mason-ship is good and pure, no questions(and MeMe i know you have a problem with this mason thing, deal with it)

broomhead-me-i know i am town, say what you like

chaotic_diablo- the person i know least about and has given the least impact full information-good scum trait- so for all intensive purposes, your kinda going to be scum in this little scenario. oh and i know you are supposed to be the cop and all, but giving information after MeMe reveal more about her flavor was kinda scummy to me, maybe it was just bad post timing, maybe not. in the field of scummy-need you and tam are interchangeable

Fritzler-see adele's(yes MeMe, i do believe he is innocent)

MeMe-scum, yes i know you want reasons, scroll through the forum, you've been on people's scum-dar since day one and people have been coming up with reasons for a while.

Pariah-doc- i am hoping, if anyone sees any reasoning to not trust he is the doc i would love to hear it, i mean i see no reason to doubt him so i won't.

Tamuz -hrmmm, tam... what to say, i guess you have a 51% chance of being scum over C_D. lost me steam for this post about half way through.

[broomhead]

It's rather unusual for the mod to say "names that are good = good roles" and "no name claim day 1.

when did the mod say that? i mean, i have thug in my name and i was assured i was good. when did he say this?

[broomhead]

Furthermore -- mine's a provable role. Lynch someone else or no-lynch and let me vig someone. Neither would lose the game even if I AM scum.

okay, say we left you alive, who would you kill?

[broomhead]

uh, the quote above was MeMe's not sure what happened there

[broomhead]

well pariah's little end speach there was very nice, and i would have bought it too, if not for one little thing, *evil music* option B. DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNN! i mean who can resit, adele's suggestion, its so great, i'll quote it.

I guess we could lynch someone else (say, Pariah) and challenge MeMe to vig Chaotic_Diablo. I'm up for that.
What would people think of that plan?

i like that idea.

MeMe

broomhead -- I'm open to suggestions.

any suggestions for what? breaking the two of you up?

[broomhead]

and how do you propose that?

[broomhead]

OK calm down, i got a little over excited with all the killing. after MeMe's post i didn't realize how bad it made it seem. and tam, are you suggesting we kill a (in my mind) proven town to prove to the rest of the vanilla town(which there isn't that much of) that the remaining masons are clear? i'm not thinkin' thats such a good idea

[broomhead]

@adele, i really want to lynch tamuz for suggesting a mason lynch, but if everyone in the game thats not a mason comes together to lynch a mason, i'm glad it will be me. al per following the leader,

vote: MeMe

[broomhead]

i am not sure i do join you, the reason, now more than before is if MeMe was town, and we had 3/4 votes on her for about 24 hours, then why didn't a mafia "agree" with us and lynch MeMe. want to know why? because the town is unsure and MeMe's mafia buddy doesnt want to do it. i tell ya, if MeMe weren't mafia, she'd be dead right now.

[broomhead]

so take a second to see it from my perspective,

adele-clear,

fritzler-clear,

Broomhead-clear,

C_D-clear(because of the claim of fritzler being kuckles before he claimed)

Pariah-can't be sure, but only one person who claimed doc, so...

MeMe-not clear, i've got no pro town info from her but her word, and i believe she does have a hide/night kill ability just so you all know.

Tamuz, though never seeing the movie, i think a character named after a movie(movie name, Bugsy malone-character name, Bugsy Malone) i mean, if i am not mistaken, he claimed early and that would be a bit risky claiming BM when i am SURE there will be someone named BM.

so, to wrap up, i am keeping my vote for now.

[broomhead]

C_D-clear(because of the claim of fritzler being kuckles before he claimed)

Umm that was stark

oh man that was stark? whoops, my bad. well then C_D, no offense but it seems all of your information was a little late, by that i mean you gave us only things we could have figured out ourselves. to be truthful, i don't like that you claimed back up cop, am i wrong on this too? only because a cop isn't that important in this ind of game, and if a scum chose to try and be a back up cop, then he could even prove the town-ness of his scum buddies. just playing devil's advocate you know?

[broomhead]

And anyone honestly thinking I cannot be innocent when it is rather obvious I am Bugsy, who must be good by ViQles earlier quotatons, is crazy.

what i mean my

Tamuz, though never seeing the movie, i think a character named after a movie(movie name, Bugsy malone-character name, Bugsy Malone) i mean, if i am not mistaken, he claimed early and that would be a bit risky claiming BM when i am SURE there will be someone named BM.

i meant that you

would

be inncocent.

[broomhead]

well perhaps there is something you do not know. say we lynch me, everyone wants to. that leaves 6 for the night, MeMe makes her SK, the mafia make their kill, and you never know weather there is something else out there. so lets pretend there were two kills, Tamuz dies, she turns out to be town(just pretending) and adele dies, town also because when you lynched me, you found out i was town. that leaves 4 people left and possibly 2 mafia, and a Sk..or vig, only one way to find out... and then one town doc. then lets take into account if there is an unknown factor, a mafia doc, author killer or someone we think is town ie doc or cop, turns out to be mafia(not saying that is, just saying its a possibility.)

i am just saying you have more of a chance winning by trusting the masons

[broomhead]

i say we do, but i want you to do it since things that come out of my mouth appear scummy to everyone but me, but please be careful

[broomhead]

well the way i feel about people posting after their dead and way after their dead. and before i go on, this has nothing to do with what maz said. i believe that he should be ignored, he has no part in this game anymore, (unless he was resurrected or something, but not the flavour of the game) so i don't analyze anything he said because i ignore it.

[broomhead]

so basicly, fritz is tamuz's daddy?

[broomhead]

yeah, i didn't want to say it but not sharing makes us look bad, in all honesty, once the subject was brought up there is no putting it back in the bag, now everyone will want to know.

[broomhead]

hey you said you wanted it form fritz, you have to wait for him to come online for anything to happen, these to masons are just sittin' here

[broomhead]

yes, i knew about the abilty.

and i am okay with the give me a 50/50 chance of living, but i'd rather try and convince one non-mason to vote for MeMe, i don't trust her and i want that on he record if i die tonight. and also, i am okay with the no lynch plan, but if its decided that i die, i'd like a post to talk before the night, and not in twilight too.

[broomhead]

I'm just piping in to let everyone know i still believe in my vote, and it still stands as of now.

[broomhead]

so i guess what i am hearing is 3 options, lynch me, lynch MeMe or no lynch. and i am hearing a lynch me would be close to impossible because it would req. all the non-masons. the lynch MeMe is my favorite, and req. one non-mason and adele or two non-masons. the last one i could go with if the lynching MeMe goes no where. i say we pick, Me, meme, or nothing. i pick MeMe for now.

[broomhead]

Vote: no lynch

ah well, what happens happens and i'll accept, i think that puts us into twilight where i'd like to say, i think MeMe is still bad and i am inncent, i won't give anything else, i just like to be on the record.

[broomhead]

so just to clarify, seeing as were not yet in dark, when i am killed and proved town, that will clear adele and fritz?

[broomhead]

well since night doesn't seem to be coming, I'll get this in the open now, I'll be gone soon, (going to look for colleges) and won't be back till thursday, i don't see this being a problem seeing as I'll be lynched this night, but just for some freak reason i am not, you may want to replace me, I'd rather not be replaced, but i will accept it if you do. and soon of course meaning, i will leave sat.

[broomhead]

uh, one if i am still alive that means that MeMe is scum, or the doc went off his rocker and saved me because he knew i was town. and i think that adele dying is a sign that me and frizzlier are town too-boot. so lets not bring that up again right now. or it means that MeMe went against her word and did not do her SK thing and stayed in her "safe zone".

Here is my investigation. To tell you, whatever I say in this result does not reflect what I think, it's what it says. Pariah is a black full time janitor who is obviously guilty of something. He works at a bookshop, but why would a bookshop need a janitor?

wait, wasn't pariah supposed to be the doc? or does this still fit his doc-like status? i still haven't seen the movie. and I'd like everyone theory on why more people didn't die, especially me.

[broomhead]

well perhaps someones choice didn't get sent in, i mean it seemed with viqles's post about how all choices had to be received in 48 hours means someone didn't send in a choice or he didn't get one

[broomhead]

well if its safe to hear the idea after they talk, please do tell, even if it doesn't pan out. and heres my idea on the happenings, i would like everyone to come forward and say weather they sent out night choices

before

viqles' 48 hour post

[broomhead]

i don't think people are used to the thread being open yet, it's been a long time

[broomhead]

yeah, unless we figure out why there was only one kill, and why i died, i still want MeMe dead

[broomhead]

yeah, unless we figure out why there was only one kill, and why i died, i still want MeMe dead

err- rather, why i didn't die

[broomhead]

AH-HA! after re-reading the forums i figured out a sure fire way to prove that if MeMe has a night kill ability that she is indeed either scum or SK and

not

a vig. but i am afraid i cannot tell you as of yet because it raises more questions than answers. and those questions either need to be discussed with fritzler at night or in a desperate situation. sorry to leave you all hanging i just want you to know what i am thinking. so

vote: MeMe

[broomhead]

I'm just saying, I trust broomhead 100%, i may be wrong in that (he is damn scummy lookin), but i trust him

haha thanks...i think.

but anyways that was my reason why MeMe is an SK and not a vig. there is no way that there would be 2 vigs on the town side without the scum having like 3 doctors. that would mean that you're not a vig. your an SK. and the reason we're not lying is that the whole point of this game , lest you forget, is that this is a game about 2 rival gangs, a good one and a bad one. its only logical that they both have the same capabilities(though maybe not fair)

[broomhead]

Something does not feel right in town today. There is no way things are as they appear.

I agree.

I'm beginning to wonder if Fritzler is stringing us along.

He is so steadfast that there is no possible way the mod lied, at all. This would be an easy tactic to use on Broomhead to make him blindly follow him. I also remember when Fritzler was against revealing the mason's extra ability of killing players. Personally, I don't see the very big motivation on keeping that secret or why it was so unmentionable.

I wish. I will probably kill someone tonight. I wanted to keep it a secret so we could nail someone and be like suck it bitch. It would be sweet. Like, really really sweet. Adele and I agreed not to reveal it. Plus i refuse to believe a mod lied to a player so blatantly. I'm sorry, I refuse to do it.

While it would be probably

really

funny, I don't think "SUCK IT BITCH" is a good reason to keep it quiet.

Also, that's a bit...worrying. Who are you planning on killing, or is it just because?

Fritz, how can you hold that opinion with stuff like "SK/Mason or Mason/Mason Traitor" groups floating around? In my personal experience, it's very common to make it not obvious. However, this is...the second game I spent a lot of effort into so I won't pretend to know the ins and outs of the meta.

By the way, you would

hate

me as a mod then, where in my meta "evil" modding is quite common.

Oh well, at least we can agree on something.

Well, I'd only hate you if you straight up lied to players, in a game other than robinson curosoe mafia or bastard mafia.

Mason triators may be common, but they are rarely told that everyone is pro town.

Oh, well I make it very obvious all of my games of the "bastard" variety, so you know to expect it when the game starts. So I suppose you wouldn't hate me then.

Right, but it's necessary to balance, it could in theory be done.

Anyway, I'm enjoying myself. I <3 the giant confusing mason group of doom twist.

Me too.

plus i need more quote block

NEEDS MORE QUOTEBLOCK. [/bandwagon]

Have you ever seen a quote bomb on these boards?

No, I've lurked, but to my knowledge I haven't seen that. What would be a quote bomb?

whats a quote bomb?

[broomhead]

ooh, so is it? is she? do do do tell please, i cannot wait for the mod like last time. your sk aren't you?

[broomhead]

well now i am dissapointed, so that was 3 masons with a night kill
a doc
back up cop
and a reg cop
3 mafia with usless extra ability
and 3 villinia? oh yeah and thats with 2 of those being able to mason

hrm unfair? perhaps.

wait wait, maybe the game isn't over! think about this: C_D is the actual SK and he was faking a back up cop thats why he got the result of your fake name. hmm?

[broomhead]

by show of hands or whatever, how many of you thought one of us masons were scum?

[broomhead]

yeah MeMe, i must commend you too, for being the mafia boss, at some points you had me doubting myself and thinking fritzler was the secret mafia and that you may have just been an innocent bystander. you sounded so angry at points for me persucuting you since day one i thought for sure the town was going to take your side...which they kinda did...

[broomhead]

yeah, well i spouse i wasn't that helpful with everyone thinking i was scum, but whatever.