JordanA24 wrote:Vote: Haylen
Because she's hot
Because he's NOT!
BM
JordanA24 wrote:Vote: Haylen
Because she's hot
Lmao.DarkLightA wrote:You wouldn't mind getting an avatar, would you, BattleMage?
I'm hearing allegations an awful lotJordanA24 wrote:@ BM: We don't like scum round here one jot
By the end of the day, in the ground you'll rot
My scumhunting skills are as fresh as can beJordanA24 wrote:Oh dear bro you must be mad
Your scumhunting skills gone bad
You best retire now, lest you'll be sad
Besides there's a free bus pass to be had!
JordanA24 wrote:You need checked out, you've gone soft in the head
Just like Bruce Lee, your hunting skills are dead
You must go home, you'd better go to bed
Or you will hang, you'd best carefully tread
Because it only helps the scum ascertain who are likely to be masons.JordanA24 wrote:why? lolBattle Mage wrote:just thinking, we should probably give the RVS a miss...
BM
You're judging my affiliation based on postcount? Lol, nice one.DarkLightA wrote:Wtf?
*Checks post count* Total posts:13213
Scum ftw?
My title is Jester because i used to have a habit of being lynched as town in every game i played, because for some reason, everyone naturally assumes im scum. I guess it's just my demeanour. I come across like a right bastard. lolGandalf wrote: Yeah, wtf? I guess his title is Jester........ But WHY? So.... much..... confusion..... brain...... exploding.....
The self-vote was a shock-tactic. I've done it before and it tends to reduce mindless wagonning and provoke discussion. On the flipside, getting lynched on Page 3 is never particularly flattering, so i'm more comfortable emphasising how ridiculous it is, with a self-vote.Jahudo wrote: Battle Mage, it looks like you are trying to defuse your wagon with a joke. Do you think the wagon on you has no reasoning behind it? Where do you go from here to end joking and begin scumhunting?
Because post 36 isnt buddying? lolJahudo wrote:There once was a BM from UK,
Who rhymed whatever Jordan did say.
Though his ISO is a quick study,
It looks like an attempt to buddy,
Which makes him a good lynch To-day.
unvote;
Vote: Battle Mage
No reasoning at all. Complete OMGUS.DarkLightA wrote:Unvote
Vote: BM
I do that in every single game i play. My vote had a reason. I just didnt feel obliged to share it. It certainly wasnt "sneaked in".gandalf5166 wrote:Ooh, that was stealthy. I had assumed that the vote was for jordan. Sneaking in a vote for a person completely unrelated to your post?Vote: BM
Zwet. Town.zwetschenwasser wrote:No please no more poems.Unvote; Vote; BML-2 speedlynch!
Your vote on me is because i voted without a reason in the RVS?DarkLightA wrote:No, my reasoning is that you don't have a reasoning, along with the picture that you so stealthily cut out...Battle Mage wrote:No reasoning at all. Complete OMGUS.DarkLightA wrote:Unvote
Vote: BM
I didnt actually vote without a reason. I'm simply saying even if i HAD, it's not entirely beyond comprehension, as it was only page 2?gandalf5166 wrote:You voted without a reason right after you said we should skip the RVS.
Respond to my post properly.DarklightA wrote:Wouldn't you say this looks like you're opting out of RVS, and then voting me without a reason?
Nonsensical tag-along vote.gandalf5166 wrote:Ooh, that was stealthy. I had assumed that the vote was for jordan. Sneaking in a vote for a person completely unrelated to your post?Vote: BM
Here Gandalf is perplexed by my self-vote, but doesn't seem to assume i'm scum. Effectively, he is confused because he knows i'm town, and i've just put myself at -1.gandalf5166 wrote:Yeah, wtf? I guess his title is Jester........ But WHY? So.... much..... confusion..... brain...... exploding.....
Reread says this is a lie. Your validation for your vote was that i had "slipped in a vote" or something, for whatever reason.gandalf5166 wrote:Uh, yeah we had [commented on my suggestion we don't random vote]. W/E.
How do you figure that? Why would Darklight's meta on CSL be the same as CSL's meta on Darklight? Presumably the purpose of my question was to compare the former to the latter.Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Not sure why you're asking DarkLightA for his meta on CSL, when CSL already provided meta himself with DarkLightA. So basically, this question has already been answered by CSL, which makes the question kind of redundant.Battle Mage wrote:What's your meta on CSL?
I believe i already have, at least once. I voted him for buddying.SSBF wrote:Since you're apparently not in RVS, could you mind explaining your vote on DarkLightA?Battle Mage wrote:Because it only helps the scum ascertain who are likely to be masons.
Unvote, Vote: DarkLightA
It's simple. Masons who wish to claim later, would be well disposed not to random-vote each other, as it would not support their claim. Also, the more random bandwagons we have, the more likely we run a mason close to a lynch, and their buddies are forced to claim. Do you really want me to delve further into scum strategy? lolSSBF wrote: Secondly, how in the world would RVS make scum certain who are likely masons? This makes no sense. Also not sure how DarkLightA relates to the brief discussion you had between him and JordanA24 regarding ending the RVS and how RVS is where scum can find likely masons (Which I said made no sense).
I was at -1. For no reason whatsoever. How much credence you give to my claim is up to you. Your last comment makes no sense in light of the second.SSBF wrote:As you weren't in any danger of a lynch, I personally felt that claiming was seriously unecessary and you put yourself in danger of being Night Killed if you're town.Battle Mage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Battle Mage
Claim: Vanilla
No time to reply now. Will be on in a few hours if i'm still alive! If not, good luck.
BM
No, please rage on. It looks like we were finally getting somewhere, but please, feel free to drag us back to Page 2.SSBF wrote: Not liking this post at all. Only reason why I'm not raging about the self-vote is because you unvoted yourself.
WRONG WRONG WRONG. My vote lacked STATED reasoning, but did not lack reasoning. It's clear that you haven't read the game, simply skimmed, decided i'm lynchable and tried to set after me. What other explanation is there for the fact your opening analysis seems to be almost entirely criticism of me, with very little comment on anyone else. There's no sign of any objective analysis from you yet.SSBF wrote:Did you read his later posts where he explains his vote on you? To be honest, your vote on DarkLightA was pretty bad from my perspective as well. And this is hypocritical of you considering that your vote lacked reasoning as well.Battle Mage wrote:No reasoning at all. Complete OMGUS.
LOL, hypocrite. I dont think we're lynching DarklightA today. Been there, done that.SSBF wrote: #100 from DarkLightA: This post is really bad. The case on Haylen seems like he's wants to appear that he's not tunneling on Battle Mage instead of a genuine case.
so you're saying self-voting outside the RVS is a scumtell? Give it a rest! lolSSBF wrote: Unlike Battle Mage's self-vote, Haylen's vote appeared a lot more random and it was more evident that it was during the RVS phase. Self-voting during RVS is not a scum tell,
Oh good, i'm glad we got an "official" hearing on that.SSBF wrote: Also, how are jokes and being relaxed a scum tell? Yes we should be serious during serious phases, but that doesn't mean jokes and being relaxed is a scum tell unless the former is excessively abused. DarkLightA is officially streching his case.
I'm not seeing this. The majority of your post was set out as a pre-meditated attack on me, and then at the last minute, you back out and gun for DarkLightA? Gimme some examples of my play being "better later on".SSBF wrote:Town:gandalf5166, molestargazer, Jahudo, (To a lesser extend), JordanA24.
Neutral:None so far.
Scum:DarkLightA, Battle Mage, zwetschenwasser, (To a lesser extend) Haylen
Lurkers:smashbro_of_the_SSS, CSL
My top suspect is DarkLightA. While I thought his attack against Battle Mage was slightly pro-town, he turns a complete 180 on his play starting with his horrible case on Haylen which he fails to support. He isn't even voting someone now, instead simply FoSing zwetschenwasser without really explaining his suspicion on him. The scumminess of his recent posts exceed Battle Mage's post.
Battle Mage is also suspicious. While his play is better later on, his early play was pretty scummy, and he's a decent candidate for today. Will support his lynch if DarkLightA doesn't get through.
Good summary? Could you quickly respond as i have to each of SSBF's points, and prove to me that it's a "good summary". It scarcely contains an iota of sincerity.Jahudo wrote:Good summary, though I think mole has provided about as much content as Haylen. Although if this is a content contest we should all be losing.
//Gandalf admits he was mistaken, and claims that BM has explained himself sufficiently.gandalf5166 wrote:I agree about Shotty. And I don't know what to say about the misrep thing. That's honestly what I perceived. I don't know why I forgot tounvoteearlier, though. He's explained himself well enough for me.
//Gandalf claims to agree with SSBF's reads, which have BM as 2nd scum suspect. But, didnt he just say he felt BM had explained himself sufficiently? Seems like the mask has slipped.gandalf5166 wrote:You know SSBF is town when he uses links. Joking aside, I agree with most of his reads
why are you apologising?JordanA24 wrote:Sorry gandalf, but what's DMSIS?
good reads. but...JordanA24 wrote:Agreed tbh, though my gut also tells me DarkLight is also probably town, both look as if they're being aggressive and out there and trying to nail scum early, a hallmark of town-BM, so I'm more sure of him atm, but DarkLight also gives me good town vibes because of his actions.zwetschenwasser wrote:If Battle Mage is not town in this game I'll eat my hat.
whats with the real-name shit? lmaoJordan wrote: However, I would love for Ryan to explain this:
i've explained this sufficiently i think. But now it goes Gandalf, SSBF, Jordan. You're on my radar, but not getting lynched in the immediate future without further discussion.Jordan wrote:Battle Mage wrote:my prediction for scum-trio is: Jordan, Gandalf, DarklightA. Could be 2 of those and a lurker though, given how things have panned out.
Nah bro, Gandalf is scum. Trust me.Jordan wrote: As for Gandalf, I don't really see what's so scummy about him right now, seems to be contributing well enough so far, the accusation of following seems harsh, though his little tryst with Zwet seems a little like banter between scumbuddies, but on his own, Gandalf has not really done anything I feel deserves attention.
Openly states he is performing an action that is frowned upon. Welcomes suspicion. And as is characteristic of Zwet-town, he wants to just lynch lynch lynch. This is a small town-tell.zwetschenwasser wrote:No please no more poems.Unvote; Vote; BML-2 speedlynch!
At this point i was at -1 still, precariously near a lynch, and fairly likely to die. However, Zwet exercises his judgement and meta of me, and wow, would you believe it, SCUMHUNTS, and backs off an easy mislynch. I don't see that from Zwet-scum, do you?? This is azwetschenwasser wrote:Oi!UnvoteBM is playing his normal town meta.
Zwet attempting to scumhunt. Town-tell.zwetschenwasser wrote:I find that scum use the "confused" gimmick to backpedal after recognizing a mistake.
The interesting thing here is that Zwet isn't simply hiding behind his meta like he could. By Zwet's standards, this is a pretty good level of effort and contribution. I think Zwet-scum wouldnt bother pretending to scumhunt.zwetschenwasser wrote:yay Jordan and Darklight don't know my meta. In other news, I was not joking with gandalf, and what makes me not a hypocrite is the fact that he was only behaving the way I do to draw attention away from the good cases that were being presented against him.
This is not a scumtell for Zwet. It's basically the scum's wet-dream.zwetschenwasser wrote:the two most scummy people in the game claim masons. What's wrong with this picture?Confirm Vote: DarkLightA
You're being ridiculous. This is Zwet. Trust me, i'm pretty confident he's town. Nobody's saying he's a genius. And besides, the claimed masons are not 100% confirmed town. lolHaylen wrote:BM...I don't think you quite get it...he's VOTING for CONFIRMED TOWN and saying that they're confirmed scum.
Lol, i guess we're No-Lynching then. If we get an extension, i'd like to hear from others first. But rest assured, you are top of my personal list.Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:@Battle Mage: Who do you propose we lynch today? Deadline is tomorrow, so please hurry up with this question.
Lol, what contradiction? I said the claimed masons are not confirmed town. That doesnt mean we are going to lynch them today. In reality, we dont even need to worry about it until LyLo.SSBF wrote: Also not liking this contradiction:You say here that it rules out three candidates for today. Then this quote:Battle Mage wrote:That rules out 3 candidates for today.You're saying that the claimed masons are not 100% confirmed townies.Battle Mage wrote:And besides, the claimed masons are not 100% confirmed town. lol
Any reason for the contradiction?
Please bro, please, feel free to say something correct. Anything to plug the steady flow of bile that you're posting atm. No-Lynching on Day 1 is a perfectly acceptable play in this situation if we cant get a wagon on someone who has a good chance of being scum. Zwet does not meet that criteria, and btw, it's exactly your comment above that leads to a shitload of mislynches Day 1, so don't act like the rest of us are idiots or haven't played before, thanks. *Hurls*Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:We are not No Lynching today. This is a terrible thing to do Day 1 and hurts us in the long run. Only on rare occasions should we No Lynch and this isn't one of them.Battle Mage wrote:Lol, i guess we're No-Lynching then. If we get an extension, i'd like to hear from others first. But rest assured, you are top of my personal list.
This is the last time i'm gonna bother dignifying you with a proper response. I said we are not lynching Zwet, Darklight or Gandalf today. However, NONE of them, Zwet included, are 100% confirmed town. They are all, very likely town. I can't even imagine how you came to another conclusion.SSBF wrote:The contradiction is where you rule out zwetchenwasser, DarkLightA, and gandalf5166 as lynch candidates. Then you change the story by saying that the claimed masons are not 100% confirmed townies.Battle Mage wrote:Lol, what contradiction? I said the claimed masons are not confirmed town. That doesnt mean we are going to lynch them today. In reality, we dont even need to worry about it until LyLo.
Haha, oh really? You "attacked" me did you? LMAOSSBF wrote:Wrong, I did not misrep you at all. I attacked you for the contradiction I said above. Noticed that I specified claimed masons, NOT just lump all those three people together. I still think zwetchenwasser is likely scum.Battle Mage wrote:Now you have 2 options. Either:
A. Apologise for misrepresenting me.
or B. Explain in what sense you feel Zwet can be considered confirmed town. Because in the above quote, you assume that he is. I think that's called a slip.If anything, you're misrepping what I'm saying.
Nobody is going to counter-claim. Because there is no good reason for a counter-claim. Simple fact.Jahudo wrote:Are you going to counter-claim?zwetschenwasser wrote:gandalf is very quick to mislead town into blindly believing the mason claim.
Actually, 1 day and 3 hours until deadline? I think I found a pro-scum reason for zwet to stay on gandalf. Stalling. He wants a scrambled lynch.
I changed my mind. Zwet is pretty scummy. Is there enough support for a zwet lynch?
I'll reconsider SSBF but I just haven't been feeling that wagon.
LOLSuper Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Battle Mage wrote:Please bro, please, feel free to say something correct. Anything to plug the steady flow of bile that you're posting atm.No-Lynching on Day 1 is a perfectly acceptable play in this situation if we cant get a wagon on someone who has a good chance of being scum. Zwet does not meet that criteria, and btw, it's exactly your comment above that leads to a shitload of mislynches Day 1, so don't act like the rest of us are idiots or haven't played before, thanks. *Hurls*So far, the majority of your case on me has been very weak and definently don't see how I'm scummier then you or zwetchenwasser.
This is not true. It's not worth lynching probable town simply for "information". That's a cop out.SSBF wrote:1. So if we were to not get a bandwagon on a person we think is likely scum, we should go ahead and not lynch at all? A mislynch is better then a No Lynch Day 1 is because we gain more information out of Day 1 by lynching then not lynching at all. We can analyze the mislynch person bandwagon and the mislynch's suspects and go from there, which can be used to find scums. You don't get that oppertunity with a No Lynch.
In the above quote, SSBF admits his attack on me amounted to nothing. Then, in the next sentence, backtracks, and again claims to find me scummy.SSBF wrote:Fair enough. I do agree that DarkLightA and gandalf5166 are very likely townies, although I still do think zwetchenwasser needs to be lynched today.Battle Mage wrote:This is the last time i'm gonna bother dignifying you with a proper response. I said we are not lynching Zwet, Darklight or Gandalf today. However, NONE of them, Zwet included, are 100% confirmed town. They are all, very likely town. I can't even imagine how you came to another conclusion.Yes, I was attacking your play because I (IMO, opinions may vary with other people) found something about your play scummy and I will not ignore it.Battle Mage wrote:Haha, oh really? You "attacked" me did you? LMAO
Well, good work! I'm sure everyone here is amazed at your super mafia skillz!
lmao, emotion is putting it a bit strongly. In any case, if Zwet is town, Haylen is also probably town. citation.Haylen wrote:Holy mother of joseph. NEVER use orange when someone in the games on Sepia.
I could see a scumteam made of BM and Zwets with one other. Because of the emotion with which BM has been responding recently, particularly when under fire by SS DEAD GOD PEOPLE, CHOOSE DIFFERENT USERNAMES.
I also note the major defending of Zwets that BM is doing. I think that if one of them is town, then the other has to be two and if one of them is scum then the other must be.
FoS Battle Mage
Until this post, i wouldve staked my life on you being town. Now you've basically turned everything on it's head. The best thing is, if you are scum, it will be seriously easy to find your last buddy.zwetschenwasser wrote:disregard everything I've said about masons and confirmed town. I only just realized that this was an open game. *ridiculously embarrassed*gandalf5166 wrote:No, we were confirmed as soon as we claimed. Now die scumz.zwetschenwasser wrote:Not if you can prevent them from confirming themselves (which would only happen if one of them died).gandalf5166 wrote:Zwet, YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID. Confirmed townies + LyLo = town-win almost guaranteed. You kill them off immediately.
Can you fill me in on this one?Jahudo wrote:The night kill is giving me WIFOM paranoia about mole, so I'm taking a step back from that case for the moment.
He's lurker scum i tell you.molestargazer wrote:The other game I was in has just finished, hopefully now I'll stop procrastinating between the two and actually focus on this one. Looks like my limit of games is... 1 at once.
As much as I'm guilty of hypocrisy (nothing new there), I agree with Jahudo.
Left alive, there is:
- gandalf5166
- molestargazer
- Battle Mage
- JordanA24
- Jahudo
- Haylen
- CSL
Let's discount Gandalf (mason), and myself (obviously).
- Battle Mage
- JordanA24
- Jahudo
- Haylen
- CSL
We have 2 scum in these 5.
Jahudo- Seems pretty town to me. I've not seen anything in his play which suggests that he's scum, and he seems to play generally well.
Battle Mage- Ugh. Heavily defended Zwet during D1, who later turned out to be town. Had a mega debate with SSBF, and really gunned for his lynch (See ISO 22, 29-31), which I don't think a scumbuddy would do. I'm going to discount him.
So, 3 are left:
- JordanA24
- Haylen
- CSL
I would be quite happy to bet both scum are in here.
Jordan- Has had a lot of RL issues, as far as I can make out, but either way, it's led to lurking and him being essentially unreadable.
Zwet seemed certain the CSL abandonment was protown, but Zwet isnt Tubby. I was somewhat persuaded at the time, but CSL probably warrants a reread.Mole wrote:CSL- Between replacements, I can't see enough from either his or afatchic's ISO to merit a read either way.
If Haylen was scum:Mole wrote:Haylen- Now it's been pointed out, the vote switch does concern me, seeing as it was shortly after my Zwet vote put the Zwet wagon into the lead. Also, in Post 329 Haylen could "see a scumteam made of zwets and BM". 3 posts later, she switches to SSBF who she hadn't commented on at all earlier. It makes little sense to me why she would switch away from someone who:
a) Had the most votes
b) She really seemed to think was scum at the time (see ISO 13 and 14)
VOTE: Haylen
wtf? lolgandalf5166 wrote:Okay, mole is not only scum, but BM is his buddy. CSL, unreadable? He's the most obv town player in this game aside from me.
What conclusion do you draw from the fact that, aside from yourself, nobody has raised the idea of Mole being responsible for the kill last night?Jahudo wrote:Scum should have killed gandalf last night but didn't. They choose SSSS, who was voting mole yesterday. Maybe they wanted to take out a threat to mole or make it look like getting rid of a threat to mole is more important than getting rid of confirmed town.Battle Mage wrote:Can you fill me in on this one?Jahudo wrote:The night kill is giving me WIFOM paranoia about mole, so I'm taking a step back from that case for the moment.
Why exactly are you so reluctant to lynch Jordan?Jahudo wrote: I'm not against lynching mole still, but I want to have a better idea of what Haylen and afatchic are first because I'm pretty confident one of them is scum (by way of process of elimination and SSBF connections mainly).
Yay for difficult to read playersBattle Mage wrote:Though with Jordan, this is pretty null.
I think its more likely he would have piggybacked a townie's case than a buddy's. He'd feel more legitimate in taking that stance and maybe start to buddy to a townie in a subtle way.[/quote]SSBF wrote:Liked JordanA24's quick case on zwetschenwasser. Not only is he hypocritical in calling gandalf5166 out for vote hopping, he is completely wrong about this. Later explanation about this doesn't change my mind about this. He's an okay lynch IMO.
Then you're wrong. They are close friends of mine irl, and i know for a fact that they have not had limited internet access. Jordan is doing fantasy football for crying out loud! And you really think he's UNABLE to post here? Argh!Jahudo wrote:@BM: I believe that Jordan (and to a lesser extent Haylen) are not lurking.
Nice try. But we're still lynching Jordan today.Jahudo wrote: @self: NK WIFOM is silly so get over it.
Ok done. mole is a good lynch
If Haylen was scum, she would not want to get lynched by me, would know im probably going to keep a closer eye on her than most, and would therefore probably kill me asap. I guess she can elaborate on B if she wishes to defend herself in this way. It's not really appropriate for me to do so.molestargazer wrote:A, B: I have no idea, why would you 2 be dead? Could you explain this?BM wrote:If Haylen was scum:
A. Wouldnt i be dead?
B. Wouldnt CSL be dead? lol
Rofl! I wasn't at -1. How the hell is anyone going to quickhammer me? For the record, because scum have no ability to co-ordinate timings during the day, they probably wouldnt risk such a strategy. But evidently, we're looking at something completely different.Haylen wrote:Guys, I can pretty much prove that Battle Mage is one of the last two scum.
After CSL voted for him, nobody quick hammered. We all had a chance too as everybody posted. This suggests that either BM is scum with CSL or with Jahudo. Either way, logic and time indicates that Battle Mage is scum. I would be willing to bet that if BM is scum then CSL is scum with him as Jahudo is one of my current town reads.
*punches wall repeatedly*gandalf5166 wrote:I'm gonna hammer, Haylen speaks the truth. Hence, she's definitely town. I don't know about you, but I don't bring up things that confirm my partner as scum in LyLo after everyone else has forgotten them(events, not player, since BM is obviously a suspect).
Speak now, or forever hold your piece.
This is bs. You've spent this entire game making excuses for inactivity. Answering questions and giving opinions is a million miles from protown. Have a pleasant death hun.Haylen wrote:Sorry but there's only so much a person can do when they're moving house. Also, I have answered everything put forward to me and given my opinions. I have no committed any scumtells either. Now why am I scum?
Yes, because i'm so threatened by your incredible strength of argument that i flaked from the site. Gimme a break!CSL wrote:Battle Mage is obviously not going to be back.
He needs to be either replaced or hammered, IMO.
Thanks bud. I stand by what i said earlier, you played a good game.Jahudo wrote:No, I was town. Was there anything I could have said to clear me?
Anyway, good job scumteam. I wonder how much the N0 mason kill and early mason claim gave you confidence to distance/bus. I'm guessing it allowed you to play a little outside your comfort zone at least, Haylen.