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Oka should be town, but hell I don't want him anywhere near endgame. Aggro as fuck right out of the gate, and I'm seeing it as townaggro more than scum aggro. His early posts seem fixed on "who's scum", which i like. What I hate though, is his constant "Let's get out of RVS" "I'm trying to get out of RVS". It's the same as "oh look at how protown I am" "look at me i'm obvtown". It's annoying, could be scum, but at this point he could just be trying to get townreads so he has more freedom in his play, which I do as town too. Also the townpoints I have on him outweigh the scumpoints, so I'll have him somewhere in my townpile.
NM leans scum mainly for his early argument with Oka, and how most of his questions are just....eh. I'm not sure where the scumhunting is in his ISO.
Rose I think is town, esp with 83, just seemed like a very townoriented thought process which I like.
I don't see why people are ok with Scramblevotes though, he hasn't produced enough content for me to confidently vote him. I mean, yeah that post sucked, but still need more from him
ZZZX has a good vote, but really just null because 1 post.
flubber....could be scum maybe? There isn't enough there for me to be sure, but his scumhunting is kinda all over and not really focused on anything, the questions he asks doesn't really have much relevance to alignment.
kyndy has too little for me to tell too. Needs more content. (but who am I to talk lol)
ProHawk...probably leans scum too. Unless he always posts like this? But I have no idea where he's going or what he's reading into with questions like hisGMT+8-
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In post 98, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 78, ProHawk wrote:In post 54, Flubbernugget wrote:Can't get behind a vote like this.
What can you get behind?
A scum read I like or agree with.
Ah an amazing interaction right here >.>GMT+8-
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In post 108, OkaPoka wrote:NM you still scumread xay? He seems town to me.
eyyy talk to me
are my reads shit?GMT+8-
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In post 110, Not_Mafia wrote:@Oka. There was nothing to compel me to unvote
There's no reason for you to unvote?
Well there was no reason for you to vote at all, since the only problem you have with me that you have voiced is that I haven't posted, and that is not like me (never specified if it wasn't like townme or scumme either).
I'm posting now, you gonna read me or not? Nothing compelling for you to unvote doesn't tell me at all what you think of me, unless you're reading me as null still, to which I will probably hammer yo ass
not really
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In post 108, OkaPoka wrote:NM you still scumread xay? He seems town to me.
Town? Town how? Vibe town? Is it the good kind of town?GMT+8-
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lol that post above is a joke btw
In post 121, OkaPoka wrote:In post 111, Xayzeck wrote:In post 108, OkaPoka wrote:NM you still scumread xay? He seems town to me.
eyyy talk to me
are my reads shit?
All are good except rosey, flubber, and hawkman
What's bad about above 3?GMT+8-
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In post 126, Not_Mafia wrote:Tell me why I should unvote Xay specifically, and why me not townreading him after 3 content posts makes me scum?
oh god pls
3 content posts
is 3 such a big deal
DO YOU WANT ME TO QUOTE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF PROHAWK'S POSTS FROM WHEN YOU VOTED HIM TO WHEN YOU UNVOTED
AND TELL ME IF THE CONTENT THERE IS MORE SUBSTANTIAL THEN MY "3 content posts"
if the number of posts I have is something that's concerning you, then i will hammer yo ass
because Prohawks ISO is one BIG problem that you guys should be talking about, but god I don't know why he's getting townread.GMT+8-
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this man here has a similar ISOGMT+8-
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In post 130, OkaPoka wrote:This is the most confident I felt Xay town in a long time.
God this line sucks so much too
it's like blatant buddying almost
you went off like "Xay get in here and play with me" so I get in here and I do all this typing
And I'm honestly really disappointed that I've actually had to dedicate posts just for you to push you to comment on my reads
like pls
i don't care if you think i'm town, you're making too big of a deal of me being town and NM not wanting to unvote
what are your reads? do you agree or disagree with mine?GMT+8-
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In post 137, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm currently townreading Prohawk because the way him and Oka pushed my wagon at the start was too similar for them to be partners and I'm scumreading Oka And if you want us to be talking about it then start a conversation on the topic
Why are you scumreading Oka?
Isn't that a little weak for a townread? Like you reviewed Flubber and thought he was scum. Why can't you ISO Prohawk and come to the exact same conclusion?
And I DID bring it up, I just didn't request explicitly to talk about it.
I voted him even, seriously.
Considering the fact that he seems to be a universal townread, I'd figure you guys would say something about me voting him.
AND I'VE BRINGING UP THIS TOPIC NOW, ALRIGHT, SINCE THINGS HAVE TO BE EXPLICITLY BROUGHT UP TO BE DISCUSSED
PROHAWK'S ISO IS A BIG PROBLEM
CAN WE DISCUSS THISGMT+8-
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In post 126, Not_Mafia wrote:Tell me why I should unvote Xay specifically, and why me not townreading him after3content posts makes me scum?
You kinda didGMT+8-
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In post 142, Not_Mafia wrote:And doe Oka not remind you of Gerrymander mafia at all?
Hm, I don't think I'm good at differentiating his scum and town meta just yet, so I'm laying of meta tells and trying to read him just for this game for now. What similar traits have you picked up that suggests to you he's scum?
I'm not disagreeing though, he's on my list of "people I don't want near endgame"GMT+8-
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Is that scum or town to you?
What's your read on him currently?GMT+8-
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In post 147, Flubbernugget wrote:Scum. But the game is 6 pages long right now so null read atm.
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In post 158, ProHawk wrote:I asked him to prove his comparison of me to a lad with two or three posts, where I have more than quadruple that.
It's not about how much you post, it's about what you post, and everything you have posted up until recently is about the same as what ZZZX has posted. One liners, often no more than 5 words or so, with no real direction to it.GMT+8-
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In post 164, ProHawk wrote:although I usually provide it without directly stating it
majority of your iso didn't have this, which was the big problem I had with you.
Your iso consisted mostly of short posts and naked votes with no explanation whatsoever, only until recently, when I called you out on it, then you started to actually produce content.
Which boggles me, because you somehow managed to get townreads, and that wasn't something I wanted to discuss with you, it was something I wanted to discuss with everyone who was townreading you, because I don't understand how they managed a townread on you at all.GMT+8-
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In post 189, OkaPoka wrote:flubber is an interesting lynch. I'm up with that, however his lynch will not get us much info at this point since his interactions are extremely limited except with prohawk. He definitely has some scum traits.
You're buddies with him?GMT+8-
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In post 78, ProHawk wrote:In post 54, Flubbernugget wrote:Can't get behind a vote like this.
What can you get behind?
In post 80, ProHawk wrote:Oka, lurking scum, or active scum?
posts like these, often followed up with an answer, but where are these points now that you are producing substantial content
tell me, what did you hope to achieve with these questions, and how would they help you figure out whether they were town/scum?GMT+8-
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In post 195, Flubbernugget wrote:How does that even remotely suggest buddying
"yes flubber is scummy and he's a good lynch and that's interesting but let's not lynch him because he lacks interactions"
If it's a scumlynch, it's a scumlynch. I could care less about interactions. Scumlynch is a scumlynch, interactions and associations are a bonus.GMT+8-
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In post 209, ProHawk wrote:Flubber was being very non-committal, so I asked him what he commits to. I was hoping to get some reads out of him, but he just came back with a generic answer. Same with Oka, I wanted him to provide some reads, but he also came back with a generic answer. Both responses look scummy to me. Why didn't you get anything out of them?
I did on flubber, not on Oka. Your question to Oka was super hard to answer, and that's not really how you ask for reads? I don't think there's a definite active/lurker group either, and even so, why do you think splitting up the playerlist this way would be effective?
Also, even after these interactions, no votes?GMT+8-
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In post 213, OkaPoka wrote:I know. It doesn't mean we should use the double day by rushing the first lynch.
Why do you feel it's rushing?GMT+8-
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UNVOTE: Prohawk
VOTE: Oka
Flubber, likewise, is on my lynchlist, along with Oka probably. Preference for Flubber, of course.
I'd like hammer to come soon, ideally we should get the first hammer over and the second phase of the day with minimum a week left. More would be nice, though.
kyndy is climbing up the scumlist slowly, rose is up the town, and hawk is admittedly slightly more town than when I first read him. Like rose said, not my preferred lynch for today.
I think NM would be easier to read with an Oka flip, but I am more confident in a Flubber flip, so that can wait.
Scrambles is also a good candidate, but that's for the next day phase, since the wagon is nonexistent at the moment, but I think most of the playerlist has pushed Scrambles aside for to focus on other wagons. We'll get back to that slot soon, because it needs some votes too imo.GMT+8-
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In post 300, OkaPoka wrote:If i hammer myself and flip town will you guys pls murder hawkman?
Sounds amazing. Really. <.<GMT+8-
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In post 333, Not_Mafia wrote:Can you really not tell?
I'm interested in his top, and as you can see:
In post 334, OkaPoka wrote:either flubber or mr.hawk.
He doesn't seem to be able to make up his mind.GMT+8-
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In post 337, ProHawk wrote:We've already established this?
Well, I thought we kinda established the first lynch was Oka/Flubber, but with that ZZZX vote I'm not so sure anymore.
Can we please just do one of them? A flip would be hella useful.GMT+8-
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In post 340, OkaPoka wrote:hi xay there is two scum so I need to find two people i want to lynch since they are scum .
I need to fill in all the blanks
I realise that having 2 scumreads is normal, they're the people you think to be scum together.
What I'm looking for is the one you're most confident will flip scum, independent of buddies. Would it be Flubber or Hawk?GMT+8-
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In post 342, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Flubber
That's both on L-1, I'd really appreciate waking up to a flip
Hey love ya
In post 343, OkaPoka wrote:Well top lynch is Flubber since I don't want to die.
Hah I sure want you to though :bGMT+8-
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In post 346, OkaPoka wrote:im most confident of a hawk scum but none of you seem to agree with me
Maybe, but not today. My biggest concern was his ISO, didn't seem to go anywhere and didn't seem to lead to anything alignment indicative. He at least has been able to justify himself, so he's not in my lynchpool. For now, anyways.GMT+8-
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In post 358, OkaPoka wrote:The flubber and oka wagon are the same people basically.
Indeed.
Rosey, just hammer one, at this point I would just like to have a lynch. A flip would be incredibly useful right about now.GMT+8-
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I DON'T HAVE TIME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I was considering calling for V/La but I was convinced myself that I could finish up this homework, but groupmates are lagging behind and I have to prioritize my work, sorry about this.
Responding to the prod for now, light content tomorrow hopefully.
Still like an Oka lynch due to previously mentioned meta arguments.
Not sure about Hawkie and other wagons yet, so I will refrain from voting until then. Still got time for me to catch up.GMT+8-
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VOTE: Oka
I'm pretty confident in that vote there.
I was thinking Hawkie scum too, but with Oka on Hawkie I'm not too sure, so I'll hold that off. Rosey is still town, NM is climbing up the townlist. Adrien could be town, same with Hep.
Scrambles is my go to lynch if for some reason, this Oka lynch doesn't take off, but this Oka lynch is a good lynch.GMT+8-
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This game is so fucking cluttered.
Droog vs Adrien - I don't see the point in this, doesn't look like it's going anywhere, it's clogging up the thread, and if you guys gave each other a chance you'd resolve whatever problems you have pretty quick. You two seem to be arguing with the mindset that "I've caught this guy, he's scum, I'm not letting this go". Really, take a step back, look at your points, and realise that your cases aren't built on much. If you have questions you want answered, ask them to each other. Seriously, I'm trying to follow this back and forth and I've got no fucking clue why you two are voting each other.
Rather, I've got no clue why Oka hasn't been lynched yet.GMT+8-
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This read flip thoGMT+8-
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In post 542, droog wrote:xay do you still think my case on adrien is crap
Well.....
Him confusing the points is scummy? No. Him pointing it out is protown? Do you disagree with that? Additional information is always good, so I agree that it helps town knowing that they do not have daytalk. Is it more likely scum notice minute details? Yes. Both of these are valid points.
Can you quote where you explicitly asked for his opinion on Oka?
How is it obvious manipulation by replying to your opinion that calling out the no daytalk = scummy?
The rest I will check the real posts myself, but time, it's late, exams to tomorrow
tl;dr yeah it's pretty crap idek why you are so confident, save for that last chunk that has some validity. maybe.GMT+8-
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In post 526, hephaestus wrote:Xayzeck, if an Oka lynch were to go through right now, who would you want to lynch tomorrow, town vs scum flip?
That depends on who dies, too.
I'd have to review ISOs to be sure though, somewhere in kyndyslot-ZZZXslot-Hawkie. I'm not exactly sure myself not that one yet.GMT+8-
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In post 554, OkaPoka wrote:My main scum read is rosey for doing a quick flip onto me
What flip
where
from what to what?GMT+8-
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In post 547, ProHawk wrote:In post 531, ProHawk wrote:In post 518, Xayzeck wrote:Rather, I've got no clue why Oka hasn't been lynched yet.
I would like to hear some of your other reads.
I will continue to quote this.
le town:
moi, rosey, nm - these are in no particular order. NM started out kinda bad, but he started towning (can't remember when). rosey's been steady town
le i'm not sure:
adrien - given there's that droog vs adrien thing, i'm leaning adrien to be the better player in it, since droog's arguments seem misplaced. so it's more of droog's scum i don't think they're scum together i'm not confident he's town
le nullscum:
hawkie - started from scum, got townier, not getting any townier. after thinking about it a bit, you could be scum with oka
droog - as above, bad case, idek what he's doing
le scum:
oka - part reactions, part meta, part play. it's a mix of everything amazingGMT+8-
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In post 564, OkaPoka wrote:meta meta meta meta meta meta.
Did you not endure an entire game of players shouting and raging at me for meta stuff? Is meta really that useful? Is your case on me really going to be all about meta?
Here's the big problem.
I get that people don't like meta, but I'd expect anyone as town to welcome meta, and if the somehow as town, you get scumread through meta, then naturally you'd be able to defend yourself.
That's natural, even if you dislike meta.
But none of that has happened. None of this is really meta anymore, meta was a started, they way you denied it immediately is scummy as fuck.
Is meta useful? Yeap. Is my case on you all about meta? I don't think I've expressed once in this game that my scumread on you was solely meta.GMT+8-
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