Micro 387: Double Day Unlimited (GAME OVER)

[droog]

Also, why exactly are you asking for a read on Oka? I'll go over his posts and give you one, but why him specifically?

[droog]

i want to hear more from rose and hephaestus

[droog]

In any case, these are my reads on everyone:
Prohawk: Scum. In the very beginning, he made some okay points, but shortly afterwards, started active lurking by posting mostly posts with little or no content. After Xay pointed it out, started writing more detailed posts and such.
Xay: Town. Made some pretty good points about everybody and explained his reasoning pretty well.
Oka: Null. At first, I read him as town due to his aggressiveness, but I'm not sure what this might signify anymore because apparently this is part of his meta no matter what. Very, very active.
Flubber: Null, leaning scum somewhat? His first post made me read him as inactive but maybe somewhat towny, but the quality of his content definitely deteriorated after that, especially with the Spartacus post (I don't even understand the reference?)
Kyndy: Null. Was fairly inactive, but this doesn't really tell me much since I've been sadly inactive as well.
NM: Leaning scum. Posted quite a bit in the beginning, but has become pretty inactive since the first one-two days. Plus, considering the amount of posts he's made, I wouldn't say that his posts have had a lot of content.
Scrambles: Null. Hasn't really posted a lot; content is kind of low considering the number of posts he has, but his posts don't seem particularly scummy, either.
ZZZX: Null, maybe slightly scummy because he seems to be lurking.

I'll try to do something more in-depth if I have more time. For now, my scumreads are:
1. Prohawk
2. Not_Mafia
3. Flubber

lets talk about this

this was half a game ago but its the last i have from rose
except her top scum read switching to oka apparently

rose which of your nulls have changed and why

[hephaestus]

i want to hear more from rose and hephaestus

sure let's dance

[OkaPoka]

Xayzeck has officially joined my null reads.

My main scum read is rosey for doing a quick flip onto me. She reminds me of FSO.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.19:

OkaPoka:

Not_Mafia, Xayzeck, roseylily (3)

hephaestus:

ProHawk, OkaPoka, droog (3)

TheAdrienC:

droog (1)

ProHawk:

hephaestus (1)

roseylily:

OkaPoka (1)

Not_Mafia:

TheAdrienC (1)

Not Voting:

None.

With 8 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-09-28 10:15:00)

[droog]

Also N_M, if Hawk does flip scum I'll be looking at you for facilitating this, by joining the Flubber wagon and now going after Oka. Not voting you yet because I feel like the multiple votes system gives scum the chance to derail wagons more easily (as evidenced by what just happened)

Ok I will explain this one more time though N_M is pretty much spot on

Here's the thing: Oka should've gotten lynched rather than Flubber. If he'd flipped town, ProHawk would be the most likely next lynch. I am 90% sure either Oka or ProHawk is scum, reading up I felt like this was a very likely sequence of events to happen that would result in at least 1 lynched scum D1 --

but then

the Oka wagon was derailed by Hawk jumping off, right as people were pushing for a hammer - I may be wrong but I feel the Flubber wagon wasn't as serious as the Oka one at this point and not that likely to be pushed through at a different moment

In short my case is that ProHawk knew people would be looking at him in case of an Oka town flip so he decided to get his ass off the wagon last minute.

Do you see a pro/nm scum team

i refuse to back the prohawk wagon so what else you got

[Xayzeck]

Xayzeck, if an Oka lynch were to go through right now, who would you want to lynch tomorrow, town vs scum flip?

That depends on who dies, too.

I'd have to review ISOs to be sure though, somewhere in kyndyslot-ZZZXslot-Hawkie. I'm not exactly sure myself not that one yet.

[Xayzeck]

Guy why haven't we lynched Oka yet

Please tell me

WHY

[Xayzeck]

My main scum read is rosey for doing a quick flip onto me

What flip

where

from what to what?

[Xayzeck]

Rather, I've got no clue why Oka hasn't been lynched yet.

I would like to hear some of your other reads.

I will continue to quote this.

le town:
moi, rosey, nm - these are in no particular order. NM started out kinda bad, but he started towning (can't remember when). rosey's been steady town

le i'm not sure:
adrien - given there's that droog vs adrien thing, i'm leaning adrien to be the better player in it, since droog's arguments seem misplaced. so it's more of droog's scum i don't think they're scum together i'm not confident he's town

le nullscum:
hawkie - started from scum, got townier, not getting any townier. after thinking about it a bit, you could be scum with oka
droog - as above, bad case, idek what he's doing

le scum:
oka - part reactions, part meta, part play. it's a mix of everything amazing

[Xayzeck]

oh i left out heph

who's kyndy slot

who i would put with adrien

i think i've played with heph before? he's a little more open up and confident, quite newb iirc, so i'd lean town, but that's more of vibes so i'm not slotting him as town.

[OkaPoka]

hi xay.
HOW THE HELL IS ROSEY TOWN?

HOW THE HELL AM I SCUM?

HOW THE HELL CAN I BE SCUM WITH HAWK?

Why are your reads so fucked now.

[Xayzeck]

that depends on why you think she's scum

because meta, because you deny meta, because your play in general lacks that protownness that normal you would have if you were town

why can't you be scum with hawk?

[OkaPoka]

meta meta meta meta meta meta.

Did you not endure an entire game of players shouting and raging at me for meta stuff? Is meta really that useful? Is your case on me really going to be all about meta?

[Xayzeck]

meta meta meta meta meta meta.

Did you not endure an entire game of players shouting and raging at me for meta stuff? Is meta really that useful? Is your case on me really going to be all about meta?

Here's the big problem.

I get that people don't like meta, but I'd expect anyone as town to welcome meta, and if the somehow as town, you get scumread through meta, then naturally you'd be able to defend yourself.

That's natural, even if you dislike meta.

But none of that has happened. None of this is really meta anymore, meta was a started, they way you denied it immediately is scummy as fuck.

Is meta useful? Yeap. Is my case on you all about meta? I don't think I've expressed once in this game that my scumread on you was solely meta.

[OkaPoka]

Okay what is your case then?

[hephaestus]

Do you see a pro/nm scum team

i refuse to back the prohawk wagon so what else you got

Sure I guess

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

So, I'm really really ready for this day to end

[roseylily]

Agh, sorry I haven't posted; I haven't had time to check this thread much.

Quick post/proddodge and I'll try to post more tomorrow (no school for me).

[TheAdrienC]

So, I'm really really ready for this day to end

Who's scum, NM?

[droog]

i keep checking the activity overview to see if roseylily can be prodded and im continually disappointed

i'm going to

UNVOTE: hephaestus
VOTE: roseylily

please convince me you're not scum

my earlier questions were why you rv after rvs was over and which of your midgame nulls are clear now

[ProHawk]

Why did you unvote Heph?

[droog]

i dont want more than two votes at once

[Not_Mafia]

So, I'm really really ready for this day to end

Who's scum, NM?

Oka and I'm not sure

i dont want more than two votes at once

Why? Especially considering the VC and the deadline and that you presumably want a Heph lynch over an Oka lynch