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Sorry, Reddit accronym. Explain it like I'm 5 (make it painfully obvious)In post 159, Gamma Emerald wrote:
ELI5?In post 153, Tywin Lannister wrote:Gamma: what are you trying to say/point out here? ELI5 plz-
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Can we all make it a player rule and state that if we are going to base a read on a player in Smackdown by a player in Raw, we give that reason? Don't assume all Smackdown players will be on top of everything going on in Raw, or vice versa. It's a nice thought, but it probably is an untenable expectation.-
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Pretty sure this is directed toward the great KainTepes, but I didn't even think about 140 until you mentioned it. So you found that post scummy? Seems a bit self conscious. Also, you can't assume people don't take it seriously when you still let Alban continue to believe your 'I know all roles in game' claim. He took it seriously and still does, oddly enough. Not sure if he's faking it or not though.In post 164, Creature wrote:lol you take 140 serious.-
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That emoticon is sinister. Also, because it's a gut read that 60% of the time is right all the time. Also, because other scums probably haven't posted enough yet for me to find them.In post 167, MariaR wrote:Why do you sr me-
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Looks pretty pointless to me. What's he hoping to gain? Only an extreme newbie would believe a role that breaks the game (even if scum), so I'm not sure what the point is. To find out whose gullible?In post 169, Creature wrote:I thought he was reaction testing.-
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Wait... You know GoTs but not this? Sigh smhIn post 172, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This makes no sense.In post 162, Tywin Lannister wrote:The great KainTepes is a TR. Already going after scums. Very aggressive and experienced!
I also agree that MariaR/Creature look scummish. Creature less so. All gut reads,but 60% of the time, my gut reads are right all the time.
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@Gamma: I did homework for you! Fluff post of day coming up.
t Veronica] I'll give this little cookie an hour before we're doing the no-pants dance. Time to musk up.
[opens cologne cabinet]
Ron Burgundy: Wow. Never ceases to amaze me. What cologne you gonna go with? London Gentleman, or wait. No, no, no. Hold on. Blackbeard's Delight.
Brian Fantana: No, she gets a special cologne... It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
Ron Burgundy: It's quite pungent.
Brian Fantana: Oh yeah.
Ron Burgundy: It's a formidable scent... It stings the nostrils. In a good way.
Brian Fantana: Yep.
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You think it won't grow in the future or something? Pretty obvious why I said it.In post 178, Creature wrote:RAW is two pages long -_--
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Wtf is going on here. I can't tell if people are joking with 'finishers' or not due to how many on ms think fake claim actions are a cool thing to do. If someone is joking, they need to not bold it. These mechanics require others to join in to support or stop a finisher. If I can't tell if serious, then wtf?
I read Raw and then saw Mcmennis call TB and I scum. I also so a fight about whose scummy compared to who took what seriously? Apparently I need to reread to look for finishing moves that were serious/not serious? That should be a policy tho to not joke about a bolded finisher. It breaks the game. Stop.-
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But do you SR him? I mean, by the book Mafia means it's bad to D1/N1 Vigi kill almost always. It's not a pro-town move per say, but the fallout of it may help speed up the game. I think it was a grudge kill rather than game related though, so there's not much info gained.In post 224, Creature wrote:I may know how to prevent Gamma from dying, but not sure if he's worth saving.
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What specifically makes you SR him? And I agree, but statistically speaking, a D1/N1 Vigi kill will almost always hit town without giving info. It's just generally a bad idea. It's like doubling down on two 6s in blackjack. It CAN win, but it's not the 'correct' book move. It loses far more than wins.In post 242, Creature wrote:
Yes, I scumread him. And it's not bad if it's not on town.In post 241, Tywin Lannister wrote:
But do you SR him? I mean, by the book Mafia means it's bad to D1/N1 Vigi kill almost always. It's not a pro-town move per say, but the fallout of it may help speed up the game. I think it was a grudge kill rather than game related though, so there's not much info gained.In post 224, Creature wrote:I may know how to prevent Gamma from dying, but not sure if he's worth saving.
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Maybe his finisher is 'NK'In post 259, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Once per dayIn post 256, MariaR wrote:Any sr I get for that is so worth it
I thought it would just be a lynch because there really easy to break up
can you use it again or is it one shot
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Truth be told, if you're scum, you'll be voted by someone. You won't die to this. No scum will let you die to a finisher.In post 274, MariaR wrote:Cause my vote was gonna be used anyway! xD
Pedit: Me too if I can keep doing this I'ma have so much fun
...I should prob be more worried like Titus said but rn I'm all giggles
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Ahem ahem:
Whoever votes MariaR to break my Armbar is scum with MariaR!
Whoever doesn't vote MariaR to break my Armbar is scum for letting a townie die!
Whoever doesn't vote MariaR to break my Armbar is town for not voting scum!
Whoever votes MariaR to break my Armbar is town for not voting scum!
WIFOM up.
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Yes but I think that was a mod error. MariaR voted grey to break it. The current submission is on MariaR now, and you'd have to vote me to break it.In post 290, KainTepes wrote:so if i want to RESCUE GAMMA i just ahve to vote for the VIG?-
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The vote stop combined with the submission is to stop the submitting player from voting the submitter and stopping it. Now I could be wrong and maybe MariaR couldn't vote me to stop the submission, but I took no chances and am good with it. If I'm wrong, then I can see how it's use is supposed to go over, but gotta learn somehow!-
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Can you give a brief reason why you SR them?In post 348, ɀefiend wrote:
Creature, and Grey.In post 344, Titus wrote:
Pronoun confusion.In post 340, ɀefiend wrote:
It's pretty weird that one of my scum reads is trying to form a town bloc with my top scum read despite not having any meaningful interactions between them.In post 334, Titus wrote:
Creature is trying to townblock the hood.In post 333, I Am Innocent wrote:
Why am I being grouped with alban and Titus?In post 312, Creature wrote:alban, IAI, Titus, Grey, Tywin, me
Honestly, the only one I could convince myself is scum RN is grey, largely due to having the same abilities as me. It doesn't make a ton of sense for town to have two players with dayvig/vote block abilities. I know my alignment, so I could see grey being the opposite. Then again, I can see him also being town, since scum probably have night actions over day due to also having NKs. It's a balance issue more than anything. Will be interesting to see how this plays out down the line. Barring something major, I won't be voting for creature or grey today. I just don't see it.
So what are the reasons for the SRs? I understand how you'd be wary of a town bloc this early, but it isn't as if it can't change in the future, and I see them as TRs currently.-
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Deus Vult!In post 431, Vifam wrote:I wanted to be Christian-
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I'd honestly go for a Pepto lynch over Vifam right now mainly due to activity over anything else, but I'm not against either. Pepto has only 14 posts... The mod posted more. Pepto was pretty active during RVS, but disappeared when it became more serious. I'd like to pressure that slot at minimum. At work but will post more later.-
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Is that why you ended his submission earlier than necessary? Gamma's was ended earlier by MariaR as well. Neither had good reasons to remove pressure. It's as if you didn't want conversation to happenIn post 471, Vifam wrote:I think Maria is town-
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In post 471, Vifam wrote:I think Maria is town
Why are those three scum? Because they TR each other? The same exact excuse can be used with you, Gamma, and Vifam.... So why are those three more likely a scum team over you three?In post 472, MariaR wrote:The only thing pissing me off is people hold me to a higher standard because I'm "really good at scum" "don't tr Maria cause shes good as scum" wtf is that bs
Creature if you think anything I've done this game is scummy you're out of your mind
your reads don't feel genuine at all and you are pushing on lynch bait after lynch bait target
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MariaR listed 3 scum too. Why are you ignoring that slot?In post 484, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?In post 470, Creature wrote:Gamma + Maria + Pepto
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In post 511, Titus wrote:Creature, it hasn't slipped my mind. I am surprised Nero hasn't scumread me just on impulse. Since Grey thinks like I do, I would expect a scumread there too. Yet, nothing. Sorting his suggestion seems the best way to sort him for now. If Maria is town, then his response increases in sketchiness. ABR liked to do the same RP opening as scum. On the other hand, I think he'd just push me if scum and I don't want to be in a rut where Nero must vote me in RVS to be town.
Maria does seem to be cracking under pressure though. Her inconsitencies and dismissiveness of my responses don't seem town.
I have my eye on it at the moment. It is wierd but I think Nero and IaI are correct here.
Titus, I don't really like this. It feels like sheeping one way or the other. It's looks like pretty blatant buddying. I can't comment on my experiences with either you or grey due to ongoing games, so I'll just say that I'm uncomfortable with this. Do you have any past games with grey where you were both town and did this? I don't expect you to spend forever looking for a link, so a simple yes/no works.In post 523, Titus wrote:His thoughts = my thoughts. We are in sync. There's no two ways to say that, despite you spamming as such. I have told you three times your request is impossible. The reasons you "scumread" Grey are a load of contradictions. You are shading me yet simultaneously looking for an avenue to crack my mason read with Grey. Not happening.-
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Great first post of the game for you massive. Care to give thoughts on everyone? Or is this a prod dodge?In post 543, massive wrote:I don't understand how you can scumread Grey when you can't even see him, playa.-
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Ok gotchaIn post 584, Titus wrote:No finished games on this site, Tywin.-
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Shade throwing. You threw shade on Creature for listing 3 scum, so I pointed out where MariaR did it as well. Clearly, you ignored one slot (who broke your submission), but went after Creature's. Now you say it's teamIn post 578, Gamma Emerald wrote:
He's teamhunting, that's scummyIn post 575, Tywin Lannister wrote:
MariaR listed 3 scum too. Why are you ignoring that slot?In post 484, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?In post 470, Creature wrote:Gamma + Maria + Pepto
There's a lot of hypocrisy going on here.
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YesIn post 591, Titus wrote:Are you caught up Tywin?-
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It honestly felt like you were attacking him from what I remember. Idk what the exact quote was, but it sure gave that impression in my mind. Feels like you're arguing semantics. Why does it even matter if you're attacking grey or not? If you SR him, then why wouldn't you? If you TR him, then why? You can't use the same reasoning that Titus does, so you must have a reason to TR his slot?In post 585, Vifam wrote:I still don't like Titus, earlier when she said I attacked Grey and I asked her where she provided a few quotes where I never attacked/discredited Grey at all
Huge misrep on her part, than she goes on to have an argument with Maria about whatever, but it feels as if she tried to paint it as if I had a scumread on Grey and that's weird-
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Don't see what? Where MariaR listed 3 scum? Last sentence gives 3 lynch targets. Kinda the same thing. It's not 4 and it's not 2, and those three names are all TRs for each other. Does this not look like a team vs team fight? You/MariaR/Vifam TR each other (and broke each other's submissions), while Titus/grey/Creature TR each other and want to form a Town Bloc. Kinda obvious IMO.In post 596, Gamma Emerald wrote:quote it I don't see it
In post 472, MariaR wrote:The only thing pissing me off is people hold me to a higher standard because I'm "really good at scum" "don't tr Maria cause shes good as scum" wtf is that bs
Creature if you think anything I've done this game is scummy you're out of your mind
your reads don't feel genuine at all and you are pushing on lynch bait after lynch bait target
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Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons
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I have a somewhat wary belief that MariaR is town. The lack of concern about the submission seemed genuine, although that's also probably because scum know their buddies won't let it go through. It's all WIFOM so pretty useless, but I haven't seen careful play per say. It's more random and open than I'd expect from scum, but if she is as good at being scum as others claim, then perhaps even that reasoning won't work. I just don't see her as the best lynch today due to that. Don't know if I'd argue against it thoufh.
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I could be remembering it wrong, but I'm giving my honest opinion about it. It's not a misrep if I'm not using it as an attack. It's just how I remember it. I haven't gone back and checked because it's null to me.In post 606, Vifam wrote:
That's weird if you did because I've never given my thoughts on Grey's alignmentIn post 598, Tywin Lannister wrote:
It honestly felt like you were attacking him from what I remember. Idk what the exact quote was, but it sure gave that impression in my mind. Feels like you're arguing semantics. Why does it even matter if you're attacking grey or not? If you SR him, then why wouldn't you? If you TR him, then why? You can't use the same reasoning that Titus does, so you must have a reason to TR his slot?In post 585, Vifam wrote:I still don't like Titus, earlier when she said I attacked Grey and I asked her where she provided a few quotes where I never attacked/discredited Grey at all
Huge misrep on her part, than she goes on to have an argument with Maria about whatever, but it feels as if she tried to paint it as if I had a scumread on Grey and that's weird
I just think it's misrepping what I've said about my scumread on Titus
I don't like how you dodged my questions here though. Do you TR grey? If so, why? If not, then why are you worried about being misrepped about an attack on grey that you said didn't happen? If you SR him, what's it matter?-
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In post 616, Creature wrote:
Force-replace incoming.In post 603, Tywin Lannister wrote:Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons
Okay. I do tend to see lurkers as scum even though it's apparently pretty 50-50 on MS. Old habitIn post 614, Creature wrote:Don't worry, him lurking is usual.-
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I'm not totally worried about it right now. It just makes me uncomfortable as a general rule. It's not even based on anyone specific or their meta. We all know that buddying is a scum tactic, although that's not to say town can't also do it. I'm just wary of it.In post 618, Titus wrote:
Well I will try to keep an open mind here if you do the same. Given how unique my thought processes are, I could always test him in a few irl days and see what shakes.In post 615, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I concur with this concern FYIIn post 603, Tywin Lannister wrote:Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons
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So I wonder what the manager's tactic even would be. Let's say we know whose scum (we don't but let's pretend). We lynch one. Do we ship the other off to the other thread and draft suspected townies? Just curious how that works. And also wanna see what mod says about if manager gets NK'd/lynched, do we get a new one? Mod did say that managers can be either alignment, so potentially we can have a scum manager who drafts more scum.-
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Gun to my head, I pick Vifam over MariaR to lynch. I dislike the question dodging, and MariaR just feels more genuine. Purely gut reads that may be wrong, but that's my opinion. Yeah, we will see alignment of the manager pretty easily id think. If they ship out town and draft scummy players, that should be obvious.In post 623, Titus wrote:I think at this point, I want to lynch one of Vifam and MariaR and ship the other out. Their should be various options though for Day 1. The choices the manager makes will determine their alignment. This is more about crafting the ideal group mechanic and getting a solid core going than anything else.-
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I know who I don't want. KMS or dodge. Both claim it's bad to read the other thread, and called out Titus for suggesting we do so with Raw... Except Raw is only 4 pages... There's no reason to not be able to read that. Ours is 26 so a bit different, but that should give them enough content to make informed decisions. I think it's anti-town to not read both at this point.
I say we ship out either Vifam or one of the lurkers like KainTepes, Pepto, Massive, etc if we aren't gonna lynch them.-
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Do we know who they'd lynch though? Idk. I guess it's subjective on how town they look.In post 637, Titus wrote:
Tywin...?In post 632, Titus wrote:Or should we bring over who we think is town but they would lynch?-
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Fair enoughIn post 638, Vifam wrote:
I wasn't talking about you in the second sentence.In post 617, Tywin Lannister wrote:
I could be remembering it wrong, but I'm giving my honest opinion about it. It's not a misrep if I'm not using it as an attack. It's just how I remember it. I haven't gone back and checked because it's null to me.In post 606, Vifam wrote:
That's weird if you did because I've never given my thoughts on Grey's alignmentIn post 598, Tywin Lannister wrote:
It honestly felt like you were attacking him from what I remember. Idk what the exact quote was, but it sure gave that impression in my mind. Feels like you're arguing semantics. Why does it even matter if you're attacking grey or not? If you SR him, then why wouldn't you? If you TR him, then why? You can't use the same reasoning that Titus does, so you must have a reason to TR his slot?In post 585, Vifam wrote:I still don't like Titus, earlier when she said I attacked Grey and I asked her where she provided a few quotes where I never attacked/discredited Grey at all
Huge misrep on her part, than she goes on to have an argument with Maria about whatever, but it feels as if she tried to paint it as if I had a scumread on Grey and that's weird
I just think it's misrepping what I've said about my scumread on Titus
I don't like how you dodged my questions here though. Do you TR grey? If so, why? If not, then why are you worried about being misrepped about an attack on grey that you said didn't happen? If you SR him, what's it matter?
I don't really have that much of an opinion on Grey, that's my point. I've never said anything about Grey's actions or anything he's done being scummy or town but Titus made it seem as if I did.-
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They'd be easy to catch based on how they draft. If they draft obv scum, we lynch the scum plus managers. If they draft town, then that hurts them anyways. Scum managers are kinda screwed if town plays it right.In post 647, Vifam wrote:What if both are scum-
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This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.In post 603, Tywin Lannister wrote:Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons
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Seems pretty null to me. There are better things to push on Maria (if that's your goal) than this IMO. Doesn't hurt to bring up, but it doesn't move the needle for me at least.In post 657, -Grey- wrote:She's contradicting herself after she blatantly says she did something she herself found cute and funny.
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I don't think submissions or breakups are AI, because there's too much WIFOM that goes with it. Scum won't let the submission go through on their buddies, and town may not let it happen to TRs. So it's all WIFOM. But to act like submissions do anything more than create discussion is just false. Scum would need to be pinpointed and vote blocked, and only then would a submission go through. Even with that, a regular lynch is the same thing if you already know who the scum are.-
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