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[Vifam]

Okay I feel you

[Tywin Lannister]

What if both are scum

They'd be easy to catch based on how they draft. If they draft obv scum, we lynch the scum plus managers. If they draft town, then that hurts them anyways. Scum managers are kinda screwed if town plays it right.

[-Grey-]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

[Vifam]

Yeah I see what you guys are saying

[Gamma Emerald]

The only thing pissing me off is people hold me to a higher standard because I'm "really good at scum" "don't tr Maria cause shes good as scum" wtf is that bs

Creature if you think anything I've done this game is scummy you're out of your mind
your reads don't feel genuine at all and you are pushing on lynch bait after lynch bait target

Let's lynch in Titus/Creature/Grey ty

Lol@calling yourself lynchbait.

Go on.

[-Grey-]

because I did my finisher and then I looked at my avi and as I am Maria I acted like Maria was doing it

and I still find it cute and funny as heck

How does that make you think I'm trying to do a kitten defense though? O_o

Gee, I wonder.

[Gamma Emerald]

>:|
Why do you feel the need to say that

[-Grey-]

>:|
Why do you feel the need to say that

She's contradicting herself after she blatantly says she did something she herself found cute and funny.

[Tywin Lannister]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

620

[Peptobislawl]

I know self meta is shit but it's my play style to hang back unless i have something to really go after. I'm still reading the thread, though.

Maria and Titus was TvT to my eyes. That said, Titus, someone agreeing with you is NAI. They could just as easily be scum if your reads are wrong, and you can't know 100% that your reads are right until we git some flips.

I already said I don't like the early submissions, but Tywin (I think it was him) said they create discussion. To which i say, yes and no. What they do is force discussion towards the submission's target and the submissions user to the exclusion of anything else, until the breakup. This early in the game, there's not really enough to go on to have someone on the metaphorical chopping block. TLDR i see where you're coming from, but I think it stifles discussion if used this early. Thus the breakups are a small town lean in my eyes, though how easy it is to fake as scum preventing me from giving out any full townreads on anyone for that alone.

[Tywin Lannister]

>:|
Why do you feel the need to say that

She's contradicting herself after she blatantly says she did something she herself found cute and funny.

Seems pretty null to me. There are better things to push on Maria (if that's your goal) than this IMO. Doesn't hurt to bring up, but it doesn't move the needle for me at least.

[Tywin Lannister]

I don't think submissions or breakups are AI, because there's too much WIFOM that goes with it. Scum won't let the submission go through on their buddies, and town may not let it happen to TRs. So it's all WIFOM. But to act like submissions do anything more than create discussion is just false. Scum would need to be pinpointed and vote blocked, and only then would a submission go through. Even with that, a regular lynch is the same thing if you already know who the scum are.

[Tywin Lannister]

So TRing anyone who broke submissions early is false IMO. Tr them for other reasons, but not that.

[-Grey-]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

620

I find it interesting that you will shade me due to ongoing, but when I suggest that you read my

other

games all you do is refer back to your backpedal post.

If you really wanted to sort me using ongoing, you would have done what I asked.

[Titus]

I don't think submissions or breakups are AI, because there's too much WIFOM that goes with it. Scum won't let the submission go through on their buddies, and town may not let it happen to TRs. So it's all WIFOM. But to act like submissions do anything more than create discussion is just false. Scum would need to be pinpointed and vote blocked, and only then would a submission go through. Even with that, a regular lynch is the same thing if you already know who the scum are.

Are you talking about the managers here? I think the draft is particularly AI. I want to keep those I work well with. Scum will want to send buddies under suspicion and keep the players that aren't. We cannot do anything wiiiith it immediately...but it's good for later.

I don't know what you mean by broke submissions otherwise?

[Titus]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

620

I find it interesting that you will shade me due to ongoing, but when I suggest that you read my

other

games all you do is refer back to your backpedal post.

If you really wanted to sort me using ongoing, you would have done what I asked.

What games should we use?

[-Grey-]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

620

I find it interesting that you will shade me due to ongoing, but when I suggest that you read my

other

games all you do is refer back to your backpedal post.

If you really wanted to sort me using ongoing, you would have done what I asked.

What games should we use?

Even mentioning the name would be breaking the rules because it would be commenting on the content by using it to defend my play.

[Titus]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

620

I find it interesting that you will shade me due to ongoing, but when I suggest that you read my

other

games all you do is refer back to your backpedal post.

If you really wanted to sort me using ongoing, you would have done what I asked.

What games should we use?

Even mentioning the name would be breaking the rules because it would be commenting on the content by using it to defend my play.

Do you have a finished game on site?

[-Grey-]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

This is unfair as all hell because I can't defend myself for the same reason you're throwing shade all over me.

Read my games since you like using content that can't be discussed.

620

I find it interesting that you will shade me due to ongoing, but when I suggest that you read my

other

games all you do is refer back to your backpedal post.

If you really wanted to sort me using ongoing, you would have done what I asked.

What games should we use?

Even mentioning the name would be breaking the rules because it would be commenting on the content by using it to defend my play.

Do you have a finished game on site?

One.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69444

Rather proud of my play. Faked a cop crumb to draw the NK, not that doing so helped town in the long run.

I did my part though.

[Titus]

Oh that clusterfuck that makes me hate intent to hammer.

[Gamma Emerald]

>:|
Why do you feel the need to say that

She's contradicting herself after she blatantly says she did something she herself found cute and funny.

She wasn't using it as a defense

[-Grey-]

Oh that clusterfuck that makes me hate intent to hammer.

That clusterfuck can't make you hate intent because you hated intent before that clusterfuck started.

[massive]

I played with you? O_o

I feel like my play is dif from space mafia though so i don't get that meta tr

Well screw you too, I take it back!

I see why you are upset at the breaking of submissions

Yeah I see why town wouldn't want it to be broken so fast but oh well no going back

This makes it sound like you had to think about how town would feel in this situation, playa.

VOTE: Vifam

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I've been in situations like where Titus is with Grey. I also like Tywin. I'm a little afraid that Creature thinks I'm gonna be a mack daddy general manager but HOLLA ATCHA BOY sure gonna do my best, and I think you all know what happened the last time I tried to muck with the Dead Man, I would up stuffed in a casket.

[massive]

Titus if I say you're town, what does that make me?

[Titus]

Oh that clusterfuck that makes me hate intent to hammer.

That clusterfuck can't make you hate intent because you hated intent before that clusterfuck started.

I disliked it before. Now, I outright hate it.