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In post 185, RachMarie wrote:Yes I should be in bed sleeping, or should be working on writing on my client's product BUT instead I wrote a poem and was posting it places so well I am here for a short bit.
caveat, I have been drinking a couple or so glasses of merlot so not up to intense intellectual stuffs.
OMG you really did roll Scum this game, didn't you?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Fuck.
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In post 636, DiamondSentinel wrote:
I feel the exact opposite... That was definitely not TvT. If anything, it was SvS or Sv3In post 635, Vifam wrote:That was a shitfest
That still seemed like some town v town stuff at first even though it got personal.
...In post 637, DiamondSentinel wrote:Sv3P, that is.In post 638, DiamondSentinel wrote:Nobody's interactions through that felt town-motivated in the slightest.In post 643, DiamondSentinel wrote:
If they are town, we're fucked now. Titus was the only reason I didn't policy lynch them, and that's because I can read Titus like a book.In post 640, Vifam wrote: Nah, if anything the Sekirei hydra is town.
VOTE: YumeVOTE:
DS, What about the exchange made it seem like SvS or Sv3rdP?
I think you're bullshitting.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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You aren't usually so egotistical...In post 850, Cerberus v666 wrote:
Mmm. You've never seen me as scum have you nacho? I guess I can let that comment pass.
I'll consider your suggestion, mainly because it will take less work than constantly hopping wagons.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Rach is acting different. She's been sick, that could account for it, maybe. It's not likely that she'll be run up today, but I'm going to be keeping an eye on her.In post 1179, kraska77 wrote: rachmarie is being usual lost/busy rachmarie...the votes and cases on her are wanting and i dont see why she should be lynched over everyone else today
im not sold on maker of zanos being scum. also their wagon seemed to pop up to take heat off skrub or drixx or whoever it was that was being wagoned i dont really remember
diamond is pissing everyone off as usual and making everyone want to take him out of the game asap
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Maker of Zanos and Skrub I don't know at all, so sorting them will take a bit.
I'm not sold on Drixx or Diamond being Town.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Low-hanging fruit.In post 1224, DiamondSentinel wrote:But the thing is, rb, Titus has a reputation for ruining town. I can name numerous games when she was almost single-handedly responsible for the town's loss. That's why I was in favor of their policy lynch.
Doesn't anyone here look like actual Scum to you?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Feel better soon.In post 1251, rb wrote:Wish I could lie horizontally without getting pressure inside my skull. Worst headache ever.
Elevate your head & shoulders a little bit, it might help.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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In post 1382, The Ascended Masters wrote:In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:
1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino
I'm Town,
Grapes is a Miller,
Giovanni il Pellegrino is replacing out,
Space Dandy is a dandy kind of guy, no way can that hydra be lynched today,
and then there's the unusually quiet Albert B. Rampage... hmm...Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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This isn't a blitz game. We have days and days to work up a lynch. Time is on our side.In post 1494, SpyreX wrote:Even if it was absolutely a kill list minus like 3 people it'd be ok.
But I dont know if I think dave is scum as much as just drunk. I mean I'd shoot it in the face, but probably not lynch it for a few days.
pedit:
Nine. NINE votes. Every damn person handwringing is just ridiculous. And if you've posted at all and aren't voting you deserve to be strapped to each other and flung from an airplaneKlingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Lynching Space Dandy on Day 1 would be like blindly lynching a player named Cute_Fluffy_Sweet_Baby_Kitten on Day 1. Plenty of other choices.In post 1555, davesaz wrote:
Not taking your word for it, obviously.In post 1548, Klingoncelt wrote:
I'm Town,
Grapes is a Miller,
Giovanni il Pellegrino is replacing out,
Space Dandy is a dandy kind of guy, no way can that hydra be lynched today,
and then there's the unusually quiet Albert B. Rampage... hmm...
Grapesclaimedmiller, which is enough for now...
Space Dandy... who? I feel really suspicious of any assumption that someone is unlynchable though.
ABR hasn't just been quiet, he's been absent. Which is one of the factors often overlooked when looking at just post count.
Didn't realize ABR was absent. I hope he's okay.
And you're right about Grapes,claimeddoesn't meanconfirmed.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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In post 1555, davesaz wrote:
Not taking your word for it, obviously.In post 1548, Klingoncelt wrote:
I'm Town,
Grapes is a Miller,
Giovanni il Pellegrino is replacing out,
Space Dandy is a dandy kind of guy, no way can that hydra be lynched today,
and then there's the unusually quiet Albert B. Rampage... hmm...
Grapesclaimedmiller, which is enough for now...
Space Dandy... who? I feel really suspicious of any assumption that someone is unlynchable though.
ABR hasn't just been quiet, he's been absent. Which is one of the factors often overlooked when looking at just post count.In post 1556, SpyreX wrote:If you actually believe this then we truly are at the gates of hell abandon all hopes ye who entered hereIn post 1559, davesaz wrote:
Is this a reply to KlingonCelt? That's what I'd assume, but if not then what is it in reply to?In post 1556, SpyreX wrote:If you actually believe this then we truly are at the gates of hell abandon all hopes ye who entered here
You have no sense of adventure, Spyrex.In post 1560, SpyreX wrote:Yes the statement that would make sense to be a reply to it is in fact a reply to.
P.s. i really want to see the data backing up your 'odds' thereKlingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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There's a good probability that your PT contains Scum.In post 1718, Mirhawk wrote:Things, I'm still fifteen pages behind.
I'd guess rb as the scumkill as he was p/obviously town.
Vifam claimed in the PT for what it's worth, but his kill flavor seems kinda strange.
I hate outing Neighborhoods, but you'll likely have to before long.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Where's Grapes, the third NK?In post 1779, pisskop wrote:the two nks are in the top 5 playersKlingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Works for me -In post 1867, Mirhawk wrote:Verifying that Vifam did state his intention to check Kraska for a gun in the PT.
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Pisskop, what the hell.In post 1879, pisskop wrote:math your case is ass.
if theres scun in yiur hood you need to catch them.
if kraska i scum you need to make a case that isnt logical leaps.
you arent conftown. your case needs to be better than ass
There's very likely Scum in their 'Hood and it's very likely Kraska.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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^ ^ ^In post 1883, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Okay. I'm still alive. This is gonna be ok.
This is likely Scum too.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Have you been drinking or are you Scum today?In post 1969, Cerberus v666 wrote:(Method is ALWAYS superior to result, because it's only by learning and applying superior methodology that we become better players. Judging things based on results alone is incorrect and does little to help one either convince others, or become a better player.)
Fyi all, he way I'm playing this game is when I become available to check in, I read from.the top of the current page, and keep reading along and responding for as long as I'm available, so I have PERFECT knowledge of the pages I'm commenting on, but complete ignorance of what happened between times when I checked in. I'm not even keeping track of what page I waa on before.
So, what's going on everyone?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Scummy post.In post 1973, PJ. wrote:Without hardclaiming, can kraska tell us if she is some kind of paranoid "bomb" owner? That's really all I need. Otherwise I'm cool with seeing us switch gears and go after mirhawk or davesaz.
Why are you worried about a bomb?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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It's possible, sure.In post 2003, Nero Cain wrote:Vifam said he was going to target Kraska, do you think that hoodscum wouldn't shoot Vifam to frame Kraska/kill a pr? That seems like the simplest explanation to me.
If Kraska's lynch goes through and he flips Town, then we go after Math and Mirhawk.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Excuse me, but that means you know someone's alignment. I assume you're talking about Vifam. You have not been confirmed as Town. I actually have you & MathBlade as suspects.In post 2106, PJ. wrote:I seriously think we should lynch mirhawk today, he seems scummiest of the 3 neighbors who's alignment I do not know. I think getting the scum out of the neighborhood should be the highest priority. I feel that kraska was scummy or whatever, but I feel that at best this is a town with backwards priority on a testable claim.
@Everyone else:
Davesaz, MathBlade, Mirhawk, and Panzerjager are the surviving members of the Neighborhood, all should be checked out. The lynch should come from here.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Didn't Nero claim to be Masons with Kraska?In post 2108, Expedience wrote:I don't have strong reads in the neighborhood, I think it would be safest to leave it for later when we can lynch RachMarie or Nero now. Some of the neighbors are going to get picked off later, narrowing the pool.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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You know, it doesn't matter who Vifam said he'd target.
It doesn't matter at all.
What matters is that he hardclaimed PR in the Hood.
Someone in there heard him.
Maybe they killed Vifam. Maybe one of their Scumbuddies did.
But there really isn't anything pointing to Kraska.
Nope, it's someone in the Neighborhood.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Diamond, did you manage to roll Town this game? Wow.In post 2126, DiamondSentinel wrote:Oh hi naked vote. My name is WHAT THE SERIOUS FUCK IS GOING ON IN YOUR MIND! USE YOUR WORDS DAMMIT. I WANT TO KNOW
but seriously. Stop with the naked votes, please. They just show that you have no interest in actually playing.
Oh, to any lurkers, if you have less content than PV, I humbly suggest that you slap yourself, then get on your keyboard, and actually make content. Because that is unacceptable. (sorry PV, but you know it's true. You do have a tendency to compulsively lurk)Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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People are idiots that play terribadly.In post 2138, Skrub wrote: Are you not reading the thread or something? You know why people are voting for Kraska, right? Because we think an informant in the pt told her Vifam was gonna check her and they killed vifam. Kraska is as suspicous as everyone in the pt. I don't understand why you would make a post like this
If I were Scum A, and Town B in my 'hood said that they were targeting Scum C, why would I tell Scum C????
If it were me I'd go back to my Scum PT and fucking tell everyone. I've never been on a Scumteam where whoever was carrying out the kill was chosen specifically for being the target of a Townie.
Has it not occurred to any of you Nobel Laureates that Kraska has nothing at all to do with this?
Could it not be that someone in the 'hood heard the words "Pee" and "Are" and ran back to their Scum PT with a great target choice?
Has everyone been drinking leaded water or something?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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I was kinda bleary-eyed.In post 2176, Mirhawk wrote:UGH. Klingoncelts posts between 2001 and 2006 are all terrible.
Are you reading the game?
Flu's going around again.
I'm better today.
Whoever invented ginger ale is a god.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Okay, FA's last post clears up the kill flavor for me.In post 2285, PJ. wrote:I'm implying I know my own alignment, also if we're saying kraska claim checks out, then there is no scum in the neighborhood. That's what the info of 1 kill checks out. It's gone from "only lynch someone in the neighborhood" to "don't lynch anyone in the neighborhood."
I'm leaning towards expedience but honestly I have to reprocess the entire game because of the amount of misinformation people were working on for the last few pages.
Facts:
Kraska is both not in the neighborhood and has claimed 2 shot pgo.
Vifam was hit with 1 kill and it was presumably kraska
So it doesn't matter if Kraska and the entire Neighborhood are all Scum, Vifam basically walked onto a land mine.
Pure coincidence.
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What the hell are you talking about?In post 2442, Expedience wrote:
What the fuck is this. No, he did not.In post 2282, Klingoncelt wrote:
Didn't Nero claim to be Masons with Kraska?In post 2108, Expedience wrote:I don't have strong reads in the neighborhood, I think it would be safest to leave it for later when we can lynch RachMarie or Nero now. Some of the neighbors are going to get picked off later, narrowing the pool.
And this isn't consistent with her previous posts at all, e.g.:
I don't see how this could be a real thought process. This is a pretty black and white thing, if she really thought they claimed masons but went along with it because everyone else was wanting to lynch them then that;s basically a scumclaim.In post 2001, Klingoncelt wrote:There's very likely Scum in their 'Hood and it's very likely Kraska.
I'm not Scum, and you're trying way too fucking hard.
You need to pay attention. Here, let me help:
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I guess Nero was bullshitting. At the time he said it I thought he was serious.In post 2484, Aristophanes wrote:I had missed this in the jumble! Thanks!
UNVOTE: Kraska
Kraska can't be a Masonanda PGO, can she?
Oh, crap. Is it possible that they're actually Scum and Nero fakeclaimed?
How many times have I heard Scums say they wanted to do that, claim Masons, but it was too risky?
Could Nero have actually done it?
That would take some major balls.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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There are players here that know me. They'll tell you that I don't do fake.In post 2487, Road Kamelot wrote:Hmmm
Had Klingon as town but her incredulous tone here sounds kinda fake
may raydar could be broken
Ya i can normally keep up ok in fast games but ive been busy and shit got away from me @Ari
I dont like catching up or reading ISOs because 1) lazy and 2) i find the reads arent worth much bc they lack context anf the sense of game flow at the time which imo is important for looking at behaviour
Ari is super town btw
Dont wanna lynch kraska neither not after the way her claim went down
someone convince me onto their pet wagon tho
Ask Cerb about my Scum game. And the unusually quiet ABR. Diamond Sentinel. And anyone else that was in SaGa or Bloodborne.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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You're an alt then. Okay.In post 2490, Road Kamelot wrote:Actually Kling im quite familiar with you
My kneejerk response is that he's Scum.unusually quiet ABR is right do you happen to have any ideas about that
I have some time now, best place to look for Scum is ISOing the MoS lynch wagon. And ISOing ABR.
I didn't see any corroboration.Ive seen weird mason claims for shits as either alignment so personally im not reading into it
Certainly possible nero is scum but not with kraska i dont think
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VOTE: ExpedienceIn post 2494, Expedience wrote:
I don't know how you can even consider this as being genuine. The tone doesn't mean shit, although it's so sickeningly over the top.In post 2490, Road Kamelot wrote:Actually Kling im quite familiar with you but youre probably right
I think i was off this response espexially is more like town you
I wont answer abt games tho im really sorry but secret is secret for a reason
Look back at her posts around where she says that kraska is a mason
She votes kraska despite the fact she supposedly thinks she is a claimed mason
How could this possibly be consistent with a town player who thinks that kraska is a mason (and somehow doesn't manage to make the very short leap to the fact that they can't be both pgo and a mason)? It's such bullshit. Klingon I've seen post stupid things before but it's 100% impossible for someone to post those things and believe what they're saying
This is basically what happens when an idiot scum tries to dumbtell
@The Ascended Masters @Bearbert D :
In that now-completed game you were wondering how I knew you were the SK.
It was your badly faked read. The dishonest misrepresentation. You said I was trolling, but I don't troll. Here we have a badly faked read again. (This is the "ongoing" I was referring to.) I have a reputation for being useless, for being a mega derp, for being low-hanging fruit.
No one ever calls me "fake," though.
It's simply not what I am.
Ask anyone that was in the SaGa or Bloodborne games. I was Scum in both and I didn't do fake.
Expedience threw that word at Skrubs on Day 1, and implied it at Cerb, called MoZ fake (and helped with the lynch,) calls RachMarie fake, calls Road Kamelot fake, and Nero Cain, and then me.
See how it looks like she's just throwing names at the wall to see who's sticks?
The word "fake" could be "trolling" in this application. A word that in no way applies to the player or post, but it sounds good, it sounds like the accuser knows more than he/she actually does.
Okay.
That said, Expedience has shown a marked paranoia, and has said twice that she can't be lynched today. She's also Townread certain players with even less reason than her "fake" reads.
Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum Scum
If you don't believe me, ISO her.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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In post 2500, Expedience wrote:
But Klingoncelt claimed scumIn post 2499, pisskop wrote:id be okay with gentle klingy, ari, or rk pressure as well.
arislot has done fuckall this game and a huggyfeely wallpost or three doesnt change that.
klingy is ditto - but for old meta i can give it a pass for now
rk is inconsistent or not transparent enough. take a pick
Oh, and Expedience lied about me claiming Scum.
I never claimed Scum, because I'm not.
Even if I were I wouldn't.
For that idiocy you should be policy lynched.
But you're Scum so we'll lynch you for being Scum.
Lying Scum.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Do you recall me or Skrubs, Cerb, MoZ, RachMarie, Road Kamelot, and/or Nero Cain as being fake, ever?In post 2501, Randomnamechange wrote:
Tbf, iirc I was more or less the only person to catch you in Bloodborne, despite people playing with you before. Your scumgame is pretty variable as i think it might have been YCBA 4 where you got lynched day 1 and failed massively. You raise a good point about ABR being quite tbf. From what I've seen of him that is more characteristic of his scum games than his town games.In post 2488, Klingoncelt wrote:
There are players here that know me. They'll tell you that I don't do fake.In post 2487, Road Kamelot wrote:Hmmm
Had Klingon as town but her incredulous tone here sounds kinda fake
may raydar could be broken
Ya i can normally keep up ok in fast games but ive been busy and shit got away from me @Ari
I dont like catching up or reading ISOs because 1) lazy and 2) i find the reads arent worth much bc they lack context anf the sense of game flow at the time which imo is important for looking at behaviour
Ari is super town btw
Dont wanna lynch kraska neither not after the way her claim went down
someone convince me onto their pet wagon tho
Ask Cerb about my Scum game. And the unusually quiet ABR. Diamond Sentinel. And anyone else that was in SaGa or Bloodborne.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Lynch Expedience first.In post 2542, Albert B. Rampage wrote:OK lets lynch Skrub or MirhawkKlingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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What?In post 2574, Vedith wrote:
I mean, we could no lynch and hope that scum go along with this plan?In post 2573, Skrub wrote:Can't we all just get along?
Seriously?
Eww.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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ISO Expedience.In post 2593, Space Dandy wrote:Gah! I thought Shiro had this, but maybe shiro though I had this.
Okay, okay.
What do I need to know to get into this game?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Policy lynching an anti-Town player is never a bad idea this early in the game.In post 2756, Expedience wrote:Anyone who suggests a policy lynch is exaggerating the benefit of lynching a player to insult them, since it's never actually viable and won't go through. It's funny because lynching players with complete disregard of their alignment will usually be more anti-town than whatever the other policy lynched player would do, but it's still not anti-town enough to merit policy lynching the player who tries to push a policy lynch.
In your case it would drop the toxicity considerably.
However, my wanting to lynch you on policy is a moot point, because you are in fact Scum.
Anyone can ISO you and see it.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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No, it's not Town-minded, not by a long shot.In post 2757, Vedith wrote:2756 is actually town minded.
Considering Expedience wasn't on the lurker/troll/scummy list so would have been easy to roll with.
@Random - No one will ever put you on that list, you're too cool to be compared to by those names! :<
Lynch her.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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In post 2785, DiamondSentinel wrote:
You're scum because your PL list is bullshit. More than likely, at least half of those people are really just people you want out of your way. Or perhaps the people who fit those categories, yet weren't included, are your scumbuddies. It's pretty obvious that you have an ulterior motive.In post 2784, pisskop wrote:
so im scum because... ... ... you want to play theorycraft?In post 2782, DiamondSentinel wrote:
The trolls make no sense whatsoever. Regardless of me, it's impossible for someone who barely posted to be trolling (space dandy).In post 2584, pisskop wrote:trolls
-DS
-Dandy
Lurkers
-ABR (but damn his content is good when he is here)
-Klingon Stage 5
-RK to an extent
-Daveso
-Math
-KTS qualifies as a fringe case
Scummy apathetics
-Skrublord
-Kraska
-TAM to a point
-shit - whoever else is in the game I cant remember 30 names Im not amonkey
Your lurkers are DEFINITELY not the worst lurkers. Like, you didn't even try.
A PL shouldn't be dependent on scumminess. Or, more accurately, if a person is scummy, then they aren't a PL. They are just a lynch.
Each of your categories is complete bullshit and I recommend you get vigged after PV.
get wrecked
I agree. Pisskop's play is as lame and Scummy as Expedience's.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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In post 2788, Skrub wrote:Is this scum theater or something?
Very bad Scum Theatre.
They're too damn lazy to even try to build a case on Townies.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Not much. There's a good chance that Vedith is Scum.In post 2807, Varsoon wrote:
Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?In post 2804, Vedith wrote:@Varsoon/Skrub - Vote Diamond with me! Lets make a real counter wagon that lynches scum!Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Link to post?In post 2811, Vedith wrote:
He confessed to being scum.In post 2807, Varsoon wrote:Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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No.In post 2861, Vedith wrote:
You can take my word on this. It was a few pages back but it happened.In post 2830, Varsoon wrote:I agree--it should warrant death. There's no reason for town to play that way. Can you show me where he confessed to this?
Post the link or it never happened.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Which is why you randomly accused half a dozen players of being fake while Townreading others for no reason.In post 2864, Expedience wrote:
That's one of the nullest things I've posted, it's barely related to the game. I'm town here, but when I'm scum I always try to stay as honest as possible.In post 2757, Vedith wrote:2756 is actually town minded.
Considering Expedience wasn't on the lurker/troll/scummy list so would have been easy to roll with.
Why isn't Expedience in the Dead Thread yet?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Shitty deflection.In post 2867, Expedience wrote:
When scum accuse town they discredit without caring about distinguishing between town or scum, she describes my post as both idiocy and a scumtell. I can't be both but in both cases what I'm saying about her is untrue. And being upset only meshes with me being an idiot. She's upset because I gave a poorly explained but correct read.In post 2736, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 2500, Expedience wrote:
But Klingoncelt claimed scumIn post 2499, pisskop wrote:id be okay with gentle klingy, ari, or rk pressure as well.
arislot has done fuckall this game and a huggyfeely wallpost or three doesnt change that.
klingy is ditto - but for old meta i can give it a pass for now
rk is inconsistent or not transparent enough. take a pick
Oh, and Expedience lied about me claiming Scum.
I never claimed Scum, because I'm not.
Even if I were I wouldn't.
For that idiocy you should be policy lynched.
But you're Scum so we'll lynch you for being Scum.
Lying Scum.
It seemed obvious to me but I don't think anyone got it.
You said I claimed Scum.
Post the link.
Now.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Woot!!In post 2887, Varsoon wrote:Oh shit that looks a lot like distancing guess my cover is blown gg.
But really, though, I'm going through these first 30 pages and I'm tempted to just pull a fucking klingoncelt and start replying to everything from days ago.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Expedience is a "he?"
Sorry, Expedience.
But yer still Scum, he.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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"If activity is a huge tell there like it might've been in the past" then half the playerlist is Confirmed Scum.In post 2950, Varsoon wrote: Poison Doc would make plenty of sense for a scum role, to be honest. As far as Drixx being lurky as scum, I think Drixx's activity has been lower in the last year just due to all the RL stuff he's been dealing with. I don't know if activity is a huge tell there like it might've been in the past.
Poison Doc is at this point NAI, I think. All the role tells me is that we likely have either a Serial Killer Poisoner or a Mafia Faction one.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Nope, not Scum, I'm Town, I promise.In post 2963, Randomnamechange wrote: Dude
I hae a bad feeling kc could be scum and going to get away with this one. Gonna ISO them.
Could someone PLEASE explain the gunsmith death meaning that gun person wouldn't want to kill them.
Also vedith is a pretty strong townread. Really liked the ir posting on this page.
The Gunsmith died because checked a PGO - or at least Kraska claims to be a PGO. A 2-Shot PGO.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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The hell?In post 2979, pisskop wrote:bettee
shecan sit in the corner and watch as i do my thing.
youd best start playing Klingon
I'm here.
I named Expedience Scum, I made a case, I voteparked on him, I asked everyone to ISO him, where were you when all this was going on?Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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???In post 3046, PeregrineV wrote:
If you were the mod of a game with 2 scum teams, which one do you give the PGO to? And what do you give to the other team to Balance the 2 extra possible kills you are giving one side?
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I find this level of speculation disturbing.In post 3050, DiamondSentinel wrote:
An interesting assumption. I wouldn't have expected someone who hasn't read much to make such an assumption, but it's also what I've assumed from the start.
Anyways, I doubt there would be any distinction between the two, besides flavor. One, undoubtably, is "headed" by Vicious. I don't think that he would have the PGO, but admittedly I'm only 12 episodes in right now (watching it as I type this. I like the Space/Spaghetti Western vibes, and while I think the Crime Noire intro sequence doesn't exactly fit well, I do like it. A good shot).
I have no guesses whatsoever for the other scum team. I'm thinking that, perhaps one has Faye as a traitor in the Bebop group, as she's the closest to a villain there, but she is, more or less, a protagonist. So, flavorwise, I assume that, if there is a traitor (not strictly that role. Just a scum in Bebop), it will have a fakeclaim that leads to being in Bebop. Another thing that dashes on Faye as the "traitor" is that she doesn't really have anyone besides those Casino jerks who would be connected.
Of course, this is all flavor guesswork. I'm mostly just shooting out headcannons.
Back to the PGO. More than likely, if there are 2 scum teams, one will have a strongman, and the other might have the PGO. Both could have a strongman, (that happened in Dramonic's Soccer Spirits), but that ended up terribly, as one scum team's other abilities made it significantly more OP than the other (one team had a redirector and a full-rolecard cop, so that was so sickeningly stupid)
Also, from Frozen's modding history, I expect that she gave some less OP abilities than most other mods do (like you, Varsoon, which I do like, btw). This game is, more than likely, not rocket tag, but instead a 360 no-scope battle with snipers that take 4 shots to the body but one to the head to kill. That is to say, I would assume that, given the right strategy and situation, any role (or more likely a combination of roles) can produce some OP results, but it's incredibly unlikely to happen.
As for any other powers scum could have to balance the potential PGO, I have no idea. This is a theme game, so anything goes. I certainly like making very non-normal roles.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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For V/LA they're 4 days.In post 3062, Aristophanes wrote:Oh, prods are every 4 days? I'll continue to play as if they are 2 days, but that's good to know!Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar-
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Okay, the speculation on Scumteams:
We have 3 kills. 1 claims to be a Town PGO. Who are the other 2? Could there have been another kill that was blocked?
I've played some games offsite with FA where there are multiple Scum factions and multiple 3rd Parties, if the game's big enough. I have major concerns with players doing setup spec this early in the game.
FoS: PereV and Diamond.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar