The real folk blues [Canceled]

[DiamondSentinel]

noone asked me shit. all i got was math saying im scum like a broken record
u can stop inventing shit now

pedit: @pisskop

Probably just a little salty that

1. You killed a town PR.
2. Having done so, you will not kill any scum.
3. Being almost certainly town due to your role, you're not providing more for us to sound board off of.

This assumes Kraska is telling the truth. Scum have this great PR called lying. They use it every game.

I ReALLY DOUBT KRASKA is a PGO

There's also this neat theory (I call it "DS's Theory on Lying") that states that "When given the opportunity, scum will lie as little as possible, as each lie is a liability and a point of weakness."

So, regardless of whether or not Kraska is scum, I wouldn't necessarily doubt that she is a PGO. She could be a scum PGO.

If you were the mod of a game with 2 scum teams, which one do you give the PGO to? And what do you give to the other team to Balance the 2 extra possible kills you are giving one side?

An interesting assumption. I wouldn't have expected someone who hasn't read much to make such an assumption, but it's also what I've assumed from the start.

Anyways, I doubt there would be any distinction between the two, besides flavor. One, undoubtably, is "headed" by Vicious. I don't think that he would have the PGO, but admittedly I'm only 12 episodes in right now (watching it as I type this. I like the Space/Spaghetti Western vibes, and while I think the Crime Noire intro sequence doesn't exactly fit well, I do like it. A good shot).

I have no guesses whatsoever for the other scum team. I'm thinking that, perhaps one has Faye as a traitor in the Bebop group, as she's the closest to a villain there, but she is, more or less, a protagonist. So, flavorwise, I assume that, if there is a traitor (not strictly that role. Just a scum in Bebop), it will have a fakeclaim that leads to being in Bebop. Another thing that dashes on Faye as the "traitor" is that she doesn't really have anyone besides those Casino jerks who would be connected.

Of course, this is all flavor guesswork. I'm mostly just shooting out headcannons.

Back to the PGO. More than likely, if there are 2 scum teams, one will have a strongman, and the other might have the PGO. Both could have a strongman, (that happened in Dramonic's Soccer Spirits), but that ended up terribly, as one scum team's other abilities made it significantly more OP than the other (one team had a redirector and a full-rolecard cop, so that was so sickeningly stupid)

Also, from Frozen's modding history, I expect that she gave some less OP abilities than most other mods do (like you, Varsoon, which I do like, btw). This game is, more than likely, not rocket tag, but instead a 360 no-scope battle with snipers that take 4 shots to the body but one to the head to kill. That is to say, I would assume that, given the right strategy and situation, any role (or more likely a combination of roles) can produce some OP results, but it's incredibly unlikely to happen.

As for any other powers scum could have to balance the potential PGO, I have no idea. This is a theme game, so anything goes. I certainly like making very non-normal roles.

Whew, I like lectures like that. Please ask me more questions.

[Varsoon]

Ugh two scum teams is the WORST.
Who was the claimed PGO again?
Can we just lynch them?

[Skrub]

Honestly, this game would benefit from us just cutting the chaff.
There are 28 people alive.
I signed up because I intended to play a 20 player game, not a 32 player clusterfuck.
I'm not comfortable playing in this setting. I don't shine. I don't perform.

I just fail to produce anything of value.

That's why I'm voting Skrub.

Cut the chaff. Destroy the liabilities.

Hedge the game down to a manageable state.

the irony

[kraska77]

noone asked me shit. all i got was math saying im scum like a broken record
u can stop inventing shit now

pedit: @pisskop

Probably just a little salty that

1. You killed a town PR.
2. Having done so, you will not kill any scum.
3. Being almost certainly town due to your role, you're not providing more for us to sound board off of.

This assumes Kraska is telling the truth. Scum have this great PR called lying. They use it every game.

I ReALLY DOUBT KRASKA is a PGO

why dont you target me tonight then
i would love to have your insufferable yapping gone

[PeregrineV]

noone asked me shit. all i got was math saying im scum like a broken record
u can stop inventing shit now

pedit: @pisskop

Probably just a little salty that

1. You killed a town PR.
2. Having done so, you will not kill any scum.
3. Being almost certainly town due to your role, you're not providing more for us to sound board off of.

This assumes Kraska is telling the truth. Scum have this great PR called lying. They use it every game.

I ReALLY DOUBT KRASKA is a PGO

There's also this neat theory (I call it "DS's Theory on Lying") that states that "When given the opportunity, scum will lie as little as possible, as each lie is a liability and a point of weakness."

So, regardless of whether or not Kraska is scum, I wouldn't necessarily doubt that she is a PGO. She could be a scum PGO.

If you were the mod of a game with 2 scum teams, which one do you give the PGO to? And what do you give to the other team to Balance the 2 extra possible kills you are giving one side?

An interesting assumption. I wouldn't have expected someone who hasn't read much to make such an assumption, but it's also what I've assumed from the start.

Anyways, I doubt there would be any distinction between the two, besides flavor. One, undoubtably, is "headed" by Vicious. I don't think that he would have the PGO, but admittedly I'm only 12 episodes in right now (watching it as I type this. I like the Space/Spaghetti Western vibes, and while I think the Crime Noire intro sequence doesn't exactly fit well, I do like it. A good shot).

I have no guesses whatsoever for the other scum team. I'm thinking that, perhaps one has Faye as a traitor in the Bebop group, as she's the closest to a villain there, but she is, more or less, a protagonist. So, flavorwise, I assume that, if there is a traitor (not strictly that role. Just a scum in Bebop), it will have a fakeclaim that leads to being in Bebop. Another thing that dashes on Faye as the "traitor" is that she doesn't really have anyone besides those Casino jerks who would be connected.

Of course, this is all flavor guesswork. I'm mostly just shooting out headcannons.

Back to the PGO. More than likely, if there are 2 scum teams, one will have a strongman, and the other might have the PGO. Both could have a strongman, (that happened in Dramonic's Soccer Spirits), but that ended up terribly, as one scum team's other abilities made it significantly more OP than the other (one team had a redirector and a full-rolecard cop, so that was so sickeningly stupid)

Also, from Frozen's modding history, I expect that she gave some less OP abilities than most other mods do (like you, Varsoon, which I do like, btw). This game is, more than likely, not rocket tag, but instead a 360 no-scope battle with snipers that take 4 shots to the body but one to the head to kill. That is to say, I would assume that, given the right strategy and situation, any role (or more likely a combination of roles) can produce some OP results, but it's incredibly unlikely to happen.

As for any other powers scum could have to balance the potential PGO, I have no idea. This is a theme game, so anything goes. I certainly like making very non-normal roles.

Whew, I like lectures like that. Please ask me more questions.

Then I guess I can say that I do not believe there is a scum PGO role in this game. I'll leave the onus on you to convinev me otherwise.

[DiamondSentinel]

@PV - I can't say I believe it either. But I recognize it as a distinct possibility. Especially after Cyberpunk, I consider every possible alternative. Never again will my oversight cause the loss of a game.

[Frozen Angel]

DrippingGoofball is prodded. She has 24 hours (till (expired on 2016-10-27 06:15:00)) to respond before I start searching for a replacement.

Please announce V/LA if you can't post each 48 hours or tell me if you have a weekly schedule for playing(for example if you can't play during weekends) and use the V/LA flag in User Control Panel. Thanks!

4.1. For long V/LA's , I expect you to post at least each four days. the prod function will be applied normally at fifth day and I might replace you at sixth day. This is not about me not understanding you might have real life problem . Its because the other players in game might suffer from the long disappearance and as a Moderator I'm responsible for keeping my game active and fun.

RachMarie is in a long V/LA but hasn't post for four days. I'm going to poke her and try to communicate with her atm.

[Klingoncelt]

EXP could very well be scum but he's always scummy and derpy.

Expedience is a "he?"

Sorry, Expedience.

But yer still Scum, he.

[Klingoncelt]

Poison Doc would make plenty of sense for a scum role, to be honest. As far as Drixx being lurky as scum, I think Drixx's activity has been lower in the last year just due to all the RL stuff he's been dealing with. I don't know if activity is a huge tell there like it might've been in the past.

"If activity is a huge tell there like it might've been in the past" then half the playerlist is Confirmed Scum.

Poison Doc is at this point NAI, I think. All the role tells me is that we likely have either a Serial Killer Poisoner or a Mafia Faction one.

[Klingoncelt]

Dude

I hae a bad feeling kc could be scum and going to get away with this one. Gonna ISO them.
Could someone PLEASE explain the gunsmith death meaning that gun person wouldn't want to kill them.
Also vedith is a pretty strong townread. Really liked the ir posting on this page.

Nope, not Scum, I'm Town, I promise.

The Gunsmith died because checked a PGO - or at least Kraska claims to be a PGO. A 2-Shot PGO.

[Aristophanes]

There's also this neat theory (I call it "DS's Theory on Lying") that states that "When given the opportunity, scum will lie as little as possible, as each lie is a liability and a point of weakness."

So, regardless of whether or not Kraska is scum, I wouldn't necessarily doubt that she is a PGO. She could be a scum PGO.

This is smart play, thus I don't doubt Kraska is PGO.

[Klingoncelt]

bettee

shecan sit in the corner and watch as i do my thing.

youd best start playing Klingon

The hell?

I'm here.

I named Expedience Scum, I made a case, I voteparked on him, I asked everyone to ISO him, where were you when all this was going on?

[Aristophanes]

Oh, prods are every 4 days? I'll continue to play as if they are 2 days, but that's good to know!

[Klingoncelt]

Happy Scumday, FA!

[Klingoncelt]

If you were the mod of a game with 2 scum teams, which one do you give the PGO to? And what do you give to the other team to Balance the 2 extra possible kills you are giving one side?

???

Two Scum teams... how do you know this?

[Klingoncelt]

An interesting assumption. I wouldn't have expected someone who hasn't read much to make such an assumption, but it's also what I've assumed from the start.

Anyways, I doubt there would be any distinction between the two, besides flavor. One, undoubtably, is "headed" by Vicious. I don't think that he would have the PGO, but admittedly I'm only 12 episodes in right now (watching it as I type this. I like the Space/Spaghetti Western vibes, and while I think the Crime Noire intro sequence doesn't exactly fit well, I do like it. A good shot).

I have no guesses whatsoever for the other scum team. I'm thinking that, perhaps one has Faye as a traitor in the Bebop group, as she's the closest to a villain there, but she is, more or less, a protagonist. So, flavorwise, I assume that, if there is a traitor (not strictly that role. Just a scum in Bebop), it will have a fakeclaim that leads to being in Bebop. Another thing that dashes on Faye as the "traitor" is that she doesn't really have anyone besides those Casino jerks who would be connected.

Of course, this is all flavor guesswork. I'm mostly just shooting out headcannons.

Back to the PGO. More than likely, if there are 2 scum teams, one will have a strongman, and the other might have the PGO. Both could have a strongman, (that happened in Dramonic's Soccer Spirits), but that ended up terribly, as one scum team's other abilities made it significantly more OP than the other (one team had a redirector and a full-rolecard cop, so that was so sickeningly stupid)

Also, from Frozen's modding history, I expect that she gave some less OP abilities than most other mods do (like you, Varsoon, which I do like, btw). This game is, more than likely, not rocket tag, but instead a 360 no-scope battle with snipers that take 4 shots to the body but one to the head to kill. That is to say, I would assume that, given the right strategy and situation, any role (or more likely a combination of roles) can produce some OP results, but it's incredibly unlikely to happen.

As for any other powers scum could have to balance the potential PGO, I have no idea. This is a theme game, so anything goes. I certainly like making very non-normal roles.

I find this level of speculation disturbing.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, prods are every 4 days? I'll continue to play as if they are 2 days, but that's good to know!

For V/LA they're 4 days.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, the speculation on Scumteams:

We have 3 kills. 1 claims to be a Town PGO. Who are the other 2? Could there have been another kill that was blocked?

I've played some games offsite with FA where there are multiple Scum factions and multiple 3rd Parties, if the game's big enough. I have major concerns with players doing setup spec this early in the game.

FoS: PereV and Diamond.

[MathBlade]

Lynch Kraska

[kraska77]

SHUTUP u literally are a broken record jesus fuck
target me tonight or shutup

[Frozen Angel]

Oh, prods are every 4 days? I'll continue to play as if they are 2 days, but that's good to know!

Oh no! The prods are every 2 days. If your going in a long VLA I expect you to check in once in each 4 days (the prod will be issued in fifth day though)

Happy Scumday, FA!

Thanks! <3

[Frozen Angel]

Radical Rat replaces Road Kamelot ; effective immediately.

[PJ.]

Poor guy

[Radical Rat]

Confirming replacement.

I hope you'll all understand that I physically cannot read 123 pages while also staying active, so my catch up plan is to ISO my slot to see what my predecessor thought of things. If there's anyone else you guys think I should ISO, or there's a particular page range I'd ought to read, just let me know.

UNVOTE:
Until I have at least some idea of what's going on.

[Mirhawk]

Asking people why they voted for you isn't being defensive. And if you're just going to say whatever crap you want and act like its fact then you shouldn't even bother posting. I've explained myself five times over

I'm not calling you defensive because you asked people why they voted for you. I'm calling you defensive because you've almost exclusively focused your conversation on people who are scumreading you or have expressed doubt for you.

If I'm making stuff up then prove I'm lying, whining about it isn't going to make me go away.