The real folk blues [Canceled]

Skrub · Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:36 am

In post 2797, kraska77 wrote:
In post 2793, Skrub wrote:For what? Calling you out on a forced interaction?
last time i ask this
who is scum and who is town

Scum:dandy, dgb, you
Kind of scummy: mirhawk, pisskop
Townlean: diamondsentinel, mathblade, Cerberus
Townlean: spyrex, Davesaz, Sircakez, klingoncelt

I'm not sure about everyone else

Varsoon · Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:36 am

In post 2605, pisskop wrote:Perhaps youd like to share your role list.

I made that post in direct response to Cerb's post claiming that there was a PGO and a poison doc. That sort of shit isn't the kind of role I'm comfortable with in games that I design. Stuff like Poisoner, PGO, Poison-doc, etc. All that and my role are the roles I'm talking about. If people are going to scumread me on that alone, I'm not going to live long in this game. I don't want to replace out, either, because while my own posting and sensibilities run the risk of getting me lynched in any game, I've got the compounded issue that I haven't thoroughly read the last 100 pages nor have I been an active part of the bulk of this game's content. Perhaps a different player could come in, be active, and do my slot justice. However, I'm willing to eat rope for being a shitty player and I'm not going to just flake because I see this as an uphill battle.

Now that I'm replacing into this on my main, expect me to be around much more.
Sorry for not giving this game the attention it deserves.
If that deserves a lynch, then, sure, fuck it, drive me home, but I will tell you that my wagon is shit as of now. A bunch of wayward sheep, parroting a very poor reason for a scumread. If I generate content and people take umbrage with it, that's one thing, but otherwise? I'm not having it.

Skrub · Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:36 am

In post 2798, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 2796, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 2770, Cerberus v666 wrote:VOTE: Skrub

Random, why is the skrub wagon shit? I want to lynch either slot who the wagon abruptly veered away from yesterday.
why is skrub scum?
I have no idea. I have natural suspicion for people who have sudden counterwagon rise to defend them, but I'm not involved enough in the game to have any more reason than that.

I'm the counterwagon to Kraska though

Skrub · Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:39 am

In post 2801, Varsoon wrote:
In post 2605, pisskop wrote:Perhaps youd like to share your role list.
I made that post in direct response to Cerb's post claiming that there was a PGO and a poison doc. That sort of shit isn't the kind of role I'm comfortable with in games that I design. Stuff like Poisoner, PGO, Poison-doc, etc. All that and my role are the roles I'm talking about. If people are going to scumread me on that alone, I'm not going to live long in this game. I don't want to replace out, either, because while my own posting and sensibilities run the risk of getting me lynched in any game, I've got the compounded issue that I haven't thoroughly read the last 100 pages nor have I been an active part of the bulk of this game's content. Perhaps a different player could come in, be active, and do my slot justice. However, I'm willing to eat rope for being a shitty player and I'm not going to just flake because I see this as an uphill battle.

Now that I'm replacing into this on my main, expect me to be around much more.
Sorry for not giving this game the attention it deserves.
If that deserves a lynch, then, sure, fuck it, drive me home, but I will tell you that my wagon is shit as of now. A bunch of wayward sheep, parroting a very poor reason for a scumread. If I generate content and people take umbrage with it, that's one thing, but otherwise? I'm not having it.

Okay, so start giving us reasons not to vote for you

Vedith · Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:40 am

@Varsoon/Skrub - Vote Diamond with me! Lets make a real counter wagon that lynches scum!

Varsoon · Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:44 am

Why do you believe that, Skrub?
Also, are all the rest of your scumreads low-hanging fruit like me?
Why do you have the town-reads that you do and why do you have the scumreads that you do?
What has DGB and Kraska done that you think is for-a-fact scum?
Explain your spyrex, Davesaz, Sircakez, and klingoncelt reads, too.

P-EDIT:
I'm not going to conjure those out of thin air. Doing so would be arbitrary and self-serving. Fuck that. I'm going to focus on catching scum and if I eat rope or a bullet between now and a victory, that's on me. I'm not claiming my role or coming up with something to magically give you a townread on me.

You have to make the decision whether or not now is the time to push through a lynch on me. If you're town, does my play up to this point warrant me being lynched over everyone else? If you're scum, does my actual entry to the game provide enough of a threat that you need to push out a mislynch while I'm still an easy lynch to get?

Either way, I feel that lynching me now does town a disservice. Obviously, you can't know my alignment, so I could see you saying, "Shit, we might be letting scum-Varsoon wiggle his way out of this." Once again, I have to ask, "Is there really no one else you have a more informed scumread on?"

Randomnamechange · Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:44 am

In post 2798, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 2796, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 2770, Cerberus v666 wrote:VOTE: Skrub

Random, why is the skrub wagon shit? I want to lynch either slot who the wagon abruptly veered away from yesterday.
why is skrub scum?
I have no idea. I have natural suspicion for people who have sudden counterwagon rise to defend them, but I'm not involved enough in the game to have any more reason than that.

This is my problem. I feel like the wagonning is more to do with skrub's position rather than skrub himself, which I'm not a fan of.

Varsoon · Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:44 am

In post 2804, Vedith wrote:@Varsoon/Skrub - Vote Diamond with me! Lets make a real counter wagon that lynches scum!

Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?

Skrub · Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:50 am

In post 2805, Varsoon wrote:Why do you believe that, Skrub?
Also, are all the rest of your scumreads low-hanging fruit like me?
Why do you have the town-reads that you do and why do you have the scumreads that you do?
What has DGB and Kraska done that you think is for-a-fact scum?
Explain your spyrex, Davesaz, Sircakez, and klingoncelt reads, too.

P-EDIT:
I'm not going to conjure those out of thin air. Doing so would be arbitrary and self-serving. Fuck that. I'm going to focus on catching scum and if I eat rope or a bullet between now and a victory, that's on me. I'm not claiming my role or coming up with something to magically give you a townread on me.

You have to make the decision whether or not now is the time to push through a lynch on me. If you're town, does my play up to this point warrant me being lynched over everyone else? If you're scum, does my actual entry to the game provide enough of a threat that you need to push out a mislynch while I'm still an easy lynch to get?

Either way, I feel that lynching me now does town a disservice. Obviously, you can't know my alignment, so I could see you saying, "Shit, we might be letting scum-Varsoon wiggle his way out of this." Once again, I have to ask, "Is there really no one else you have a more informed scumread on?"

I wasn't really asking you to list out reasons. I just meant start doing stuff.

That Vifam death thing really shouldn't just be swept under the rug. It's ridiculous how quickly we tossed that out and acted like it didn't matter. A or was killed after saying they'd investigate Kraska. Why would we just left Kraska off the hook and act like it's impossible for her and someone who was in the hood to be scum? Dgb has been a lurker throughout the game and then right after I called her out on it she magically appeared and started making real posts. It felt off to me. You lurked like crazy too and it's entirely possible that you thought you could just fly under the radar, so I think pressuring you is a great way of spending my time. The people I have as town just strike me as people who are actually trying to game solve and their posts don't have any scum motivation that I can see.

Skrub · Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:50 am

*a pr

Varsoon · Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:54 am

My lurking was less a product of a conscious decision and more literally me not giving the game attention because of other IRL pursuits.
The prods that I received and my hydra replace-in should be indicative of this.
I appreciate the idea of trying to pressure these low content slots, but doing so with me at this point (and any prior) is fruitless. It's a waste of time and energy, because I literally was not here before and I am here now. Don't pat yourself on the back if I generate content--I am now doing so because the moderator has me at play-or-get-replaced status and because I realized my hydra wasn't working out.

Vedith · Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:23 am

In post 2807, Varsoon wrote:Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?

He confessed to being scum.
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.

MathBlade · Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:44 am

In post 2729, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2720, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2717, MathBlade wrote:Still don't trust Kraska.
That's fine. We'll have to lynch her eventually as nobody will target a claimed PGO amirite. That doesn't mean now is the time for it either.

This just lets likely scum off the lynch wagon. Didn't claim PGO day one like she is supposed to.
And now she could just kill someone and no one would be the wiser because no PR would visit them with the PGO claim.

So tell me? Just how long are we supposed to let nigh on close to confirmed scum not be voted?

Still haven't heard a good answer to this.

Cerberus v666 · Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:15 am

Skrub, any push on kraska was shit, is shit, and will remain shit for the rest of this phase. Vifam claimed gunsmith, and died to a means other than a gun, therefore their death is unlikely to have a connection to either the hood, OR kraska.
Varsoon stop defending yourself and start playing mafia. I know you enjoy rhetoric etc, which means letting you prattle on about yourself isn't going to help the game state, it will just get more and more muddled. Go be useful.

Randomnamechange · Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:30 am

I don't understand why him being killed by a gun makes it less likely it was to do with a hood? wouldn't a gun wielder want to take the gunsmith out of the game?

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:44 am

In post 2811, Vedith wrote:
In post 2807, Varsoon wrote:Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?
He confessed to being scum.
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.

...

Vedith · Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:49 am

In post 2815, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 2811, Vedith wrote:
In post 2807, Varsoon wrote:Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?
He confessed to being scum.
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.
...

I mean, you can always vote Cakez for some town cred...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:53 am

The Ascended Masters are prodded. They have 24 hours (till (expired on 2016-10-25 19:00:00)) to respond before I start searching for a replacement.

Please announce V/LA if you can't post each 48 hours or tell me if you have a weekly schedule for playing(for example if you can't play during weekends) and use the V/LA flag in User Control Panel. Thanks!

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:02 am

In post 2816, Vedith wrote:
In post 2815, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 2811, Vedith wrote:
In post 2807, Varsoon wrote:Why? What has Diamond done that warrants a lynch?
He confessed to being scum.
Back in my day, being scum had a penalty of death.
...
I mean, you can always vote Cakez for some town cred...

But why would I vote for a townread of mine?

Also, if you're saying that I'm scum just because I happen to disagree with you on a read, that's also scummy.

So... yeah.

Road Kamelot · Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:07 am

Im gonna echo Random here and say i dont understand that either Cerb

I kind of hate both the wagons but id rather Skrub goes than Varsoon
Not that i expect to have a lotta say considering my absence
Hey Diamond why isnt Vedith scum

Vedith · Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:11 am

In post 2818, DiamondSentinel wrote:Also, if you're saying that I'm scum just because I happen to disagree with you on a read, that's also scummy.

You're actually scum because you're playing shady as shit. The thing you originally disagreed with me on is you being scum? So I don't understand your comment.

I don't care if you vote your "town read" I'll still give you town cred for trying to lynch him with me.

Vedith · Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:12 am

In post 2819, Road Kamelot wrote:I don't care who we lynch but I'll pretend I do.

Fixed your post.

pisskop · Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:16 am

Spoiler: kraska's reads

Spoiler: Spyrex wth didnt you question her?

In post 2794, kraska77 wrote:noone asked me shit. all i got was math saying im scum like a broken record
u can stop inventing shit now

pedit: @pisskop

youre right, they didnt. I thought you had dodged it.

Well I am now. Why like where are some of these coming from

pisskop · Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:25 am

wat

pisskop · Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:25 am

It gets to the actual lyrics at 2:00