VOTE: frozen angelIn post 24, Frozen Angel wrote:How are you voting guys O.O
Its not yet day 1 - I really won't count these!
I found scum guys. She's trying to keep us from voting for her buddies!
VOTE: frozen angelIn post 24, Frozen Angel wrote:How are you voting guys O.O
Its not yet day 1 - I really won't count these!
What's this naked vote for?
I didn't say that I don't care about votes on me. You said that I sounded fake and I said that I didn't care what you thought. Why are you even butting in on me asking someone else why they voted for me?In post 343, Expedience wrote:In post 335, Skrub wrote:Believe whatever you want. I don't really careSo you do care about people voting you? I don't buy the nonchalance.Skrub wrote:What's this naked vote for?
So explaining myself is scummy? Got it. I'll just post nothing but naked votes from now on.In post 354, SirCakez wrote:In post 145, Nero Cain wrote:also willing to policy lynch/vig
In post 0, Frozen Angel wrote:1. randomidget
2. Sekirei [Hydra of Yume and Titus]
5. ? [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
9. DiamondSentinel
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
16. Expedience
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
21. Skrub
24. davesaz
25. pisskop
28. Norvicodin [Hydra of House and Drixx]
29. Nosferatu
30. KillthestoryI've read this post like 10 times and I still don't understand what it means.In post 162, Norvicodin wrote:That's irrelevant. You just painted a target on your head for scum that might think there's more than one scum faction.In post 159, rb wrote:You realise I'm not actually jester, right?
Norvi translate pls.Don't buy itThis isn't what we meant by "don't post too many walls"In post 281, Cerberus v666 wrote:Hi.
Scum, fyi, I'm a VT with no intention of participating to any notable degree until D4 or so, or when all my other games end.
That is all.I was going to vote Norvi for being awkward as hell, but this is super super overexplained. Looks like scum trying too hard.In post 330, Skrub wrote:Dang, this game is moving fast. Anyways, I don't trust Norvicodin. That part where he was interacting with rb earlier felt off to me and I didn't get why he asking rb the questions he did. If rb was 3rd party and messed up why would you tell him that he messed up instead of voting him or something. It seemed pretty obvious to me that he was trying to do some type of reaction test. In his other posts Norvicodin gives me the feeling that he's trying too hard to appear town and I don't like that. I'm not sure why I'm getting that vibe from him but I'll trust my gut
VOTE: norvicodin
VOTE: skrub
And you're saying this based on.....?
What makes it good? This just looks like opportunism to me
Looks like almost nobody on the wagon is giving any reasons for joining it at all. That's not sketchy at all...
No I wasn't. I didn't like Norvicodin's posts so I voted him. How is that opportunistic and slimyIn post 601, Norvicodin wrote:Naw, it's survivalism. Totally different.
And it's a good wagon because YOUR vote was opportunistic and slimy as fuck.
In post 603, Vedith wrote:VOTE: SkrubIn post 599, Skrub wrote:Looks like almost nobody on the wagon is giving any reasons for joining it at all. That's not sketchy at all...
That makes sense I guess. Do you have any other reads?In post 611, RachMarie wrote:It is a tentative read so far but feel like KTS could be town he is already invested enough to get ticked off at the hyperposters and that means he is genuinely trying to sort shit out.
In post 939, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:What is this? An OMGUS cuz I voted you? Trust me, I've made worse reads & votes before.In post 840, Expedience wrote:A bit, in large games once a wagon forms on you its difficult to get it off.In post 404, Vedith wrote:Worried that you will be lynched so early?In post 402, Expedience wrote:Actually though, you should probably unvote me.
I'm going to bed before I dig my hole any deeper, its literally 4am here
His reasoning is obviously fake trying to find excuses to join my wagon.In post 405, Killthestory wrote:i thought the same until i realized this was lynchbait that scum would jump onIn post 403, Expedience wrote:also this is scumIn post 390, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:Perhaps questionably obtained reads would've been a better choice. This thread is a mess of ****posting so I don't see where you get so many reads from unless you are scum.In post 372, Expedience wrote:How did you get overly analytical from that? My reads had pretty simple explanations.In post 368, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:You feel overanalytical.In post 283, Expedience wrote:Hey, my reads are:In post 265, kraska77 wrote:seriously tho enuff
lets focus on expedience and spyrex
whaddup expedience got any reads?
mhsmith0: town
nc: scum
I liked mhsmith0's posts, he seems relaxed and town
NC's entrance was kinda feeble / strained. He doesn't really think House and I are scum together I'm sure, even if he is town.
House / rb are unreadable to me atm.
Everyone else didn't do enough to tell
~Zanos
PS: BTD6 is either ~BTD6 or ~Maker; I am pretty much everything else.
Alright, thanks for actually telling me.
Pedit: I'm good w/ an EXP wagon.
VOTE: Expedience
That should be a red flag for your read being wrong on me, not the other way around.
~Zanos
This is weak sauce. The fact that you said you need to analyze me later implied that you voted me without even reading my posts. And then you said this vote is "better than nothing" which feels like you don't even really believe that I'm scum. This guy needs to be lynched.In post 1153, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:VOTE: Skrub
You seem to not like votes on yourself with little justification. You voted us with little justification yourself. I am not entirely sure whether you genuinely scumread us or are looking for reasons to vote us to push our wagon. Ircher mentioned in the PT that Town need to look for genuine scumminess, be more open minded, and stop voting us for reasons that don't hold water.
I will analyse Skrub more later when I have more time but I already scumread this slot and this vote is better than nothing.
~Maker
You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?In post 1160, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrubmore".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.
~Maker
What's bad about it?In post 1176, Vifam wrote:Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad
Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read laterIn post 1207, Vifam wrote:Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.In post 1204, Skrub wrote:What's bad about it?In post 1176, Vifam wrote:Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad
Why do you think SirCakez is scum
I didn't vote you because you were a popular wagon though. I voted you because your posts are scummy as hell. So its not outright hypocrisy, its me calling you out on bullshit. And I like how you admitted in the next sentence that you only voted me because I'm a popular wagon and that you tried to justify it. Thanks for letting us all know that you don't really have a scum read on me.In post 1255, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:I am phone posting here. I may have time to go in depth tomorow. Here is the Skrub stuff I noticed.
It was more gut from your tone from just skimming your posts. Like I said, I will go into more detail when I explain in depth.In post 1168, Skrub wrote:You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?In post 1160, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrubmore".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.
~Maker
I'll go in depth on my Skrub read later.In post 1208, Skrub wrote:Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read laterIn post 1207, Vifam wrote:Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.In post 1204, Skrub wrote:What's bad about it?In post 1176, Vifam wrote:Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad
Why do you think SirCakez is scum
In all honesty, you accuse me of doing a lot of things that you do yourself. Your posts seem very like you voted the most popular wagon and attempted a justification. Vifam picked up on it and you are now accusing me.
At best, you are no better than me.At worst, this is outright hypocrisy.If something is scummy when I do it, it's scummy when you do it. You are not somehow exempt from being scumread by your own tells.
~Maker
In post 1272, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:I said that from your perspective I am voting you because you are the most popular wagon. That is the way you see it. If you have a scumread on me for that, you must also accept that I can have a genuine scum read on you for voting the most popular wagon. Also, I said "at worst". I do not know whether you genuinely scumread me (I'm not telepathic) but I know I genuinely scumread you. You are free to cast shade on that but if you do then you must also accept that others can have genuine suspicions about your read on me.
Your case is slowly degrading into outright misrep.
~Maker
How did I misrep you?In post 1255, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:I am phone posting here. I may have time to go in depth tomorow. Here is the Skrub stuff I noticed.
It was more gut from your tone from just skimming your posts. Like I said, I will go into more detail when I explain in depth.In post 1168, Skrub wrote:You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?In post 1160, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrubmore".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.
~Maker
I'll go in depth on my Skrub read later.In post 1208, Skrub wrote:Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read laterIn post 1207, Vifam wrote:Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.In post 1204, Skrub wrote:What's bad about it?In post 1176, Vifam wrote:Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad
Why do you think SirCakez is scum
In all honesty, you accuse me of doing a lot of things that you do yourself.Your posts seem very like you voted the most popular wagon and attempted a justification.Vifam picked up on it and you are now accusing me.
At best, you are no better than me. At worst, this is outright hypocrisy.If something is scummy when I do it, it's scummy when you do it. You are not somehow exempt from being scumread by your own tells.
~Maker
I'm not really sure about him anymore. I didn't like his iso because all of his posts are fluff, but people post like that as town and as scum so I guess that's not alignment indicative. But then he started saying that I'm obvscum and need to be lynched without really saying why he thought that. He made a couple of posts like that but it didn't feel like he was really trying to get me lynched. It felt weirdIn post 1277, rb wrote:I wanna hear more about scum sircakez
What was bad about my reaction? And what content have you contributed?In post 1290, SirCakez wrote:Ok yeah Maker_of_Zanos's ISO is pretty awful.
My issue is Ircher is one doing the posting mainly and he's SUPER lynchbaity. I'm awful at discerning whether he's Ircher being Ircher or Ircher being scum. And BTD6 is lynchbaity too.
I would put them at a scumlean I guess for the vote hopping, which isn't something that I wouldn't write off as their lynchbaity-ness. But their awkwardness....yeah.I said your early vote was overexplained + your reaction to being wagoned was badSkrub wrote:@sirckaez You said one of my posts didn't feel genuine to you. So that one thing = skrub is obvscum? How does that make sense?
Also I don't think I said this, but you contributed basically no content besides "OMG why am I being wagoned???" after that early vote.
How does that not progress anything? I want people explain their votes so I can understand who actually believes I'm scum and who was just being opportunistic. And I left because I have a paper due tomorrow and I didn't start it until last night. Up to this point you've still done basically nothing.In post 1296, SirCakez wrote:It didn't actually try to progress anything. Just asking why you're being wagoned then leaving isn't town at all.
Not that much admittedly, but not the basically nothing you had contributed at that point.
I forgot that most of these people were playing. Vedith felt townie, Cakez is null or nullscum, dandy and DrippingGoofball were acting as if they were about to be helpful but then they didn't do anything so I don't know what to make of that. I don't remember everyone elseIn post 1382, The Ascended Masters wrote:In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:
1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino
What are you talking about? RVS usually ends after like 2 pages.In post 1420, DiamondSentinel wrote:You see, every time you make a post like this, it almost makes me want to see you as town, because it shows that you are in a hurry to do something.In post 1406, Killthestory wrote:Okay so guess what town
Town needs to cooperate and not just come out of nowhere with random scumreads/townreads. Explain in-depth when you have a scumread on someone that the majority doesn't agree with and vice versa. Make a townbloc, a collective, whatever, I don't care. However, to ever be able to agree on something, you all need to express your views in a logical manner and have intellectual discussion rather than random words to be had.
Thank you.
But then my voice of reason speaks up because WE ARE ONLY 2 DAYS INTO THE GAME! MOST GAMES ARENT EVEN OUT OF RVS YET
I thought we weren't allowed to talk about ongoing gamesIn post 1434, Road Kamelot wrote:Ah Cakes ok nvm grapes is posting in other games and not here so
Sure, lurking is an accurate statement, could be scum
Expedience tell me. why do your last two posts suck so bad dude-o
pedit: last two posts not including most recent
Oh okay lolIn post 1445, Road Kamelot wrote:Skrub, you dont remember me? I was one of those people who wanted you dead for a while but doesnt anymore
Not cool
I always thought that you could say "this person is still posting on the site" but you couldn't say "this person is posting in other games". Good to know.In post 1450, Road Kamelot wrote:from the "Dont fucking talk about ongoing games" thread:
"OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games and is posting in those games, but he hasn't posted here in 3 days."
NOT OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games where he's posting lengthy posts. <The violation here is mentioning that the posts are LONG. This is a substantive statement.>
OKAY: "I'm alive in 3 games, and I'm having trouble keeping up with all of them."
NOT OKAY: "I'm in LYLO in a game, so that's taking a lot of my time." <The violation here is mentioning that you're in LYLO. This is a substantive statement.>"
I dont break the rules, not my style
My statement about grapes falls under the first example
When are we getting the matching leather jackets?In post 1521, SpyreX wrote:The Collective:
Masters
SpyreX
Rb
KTS
Skrub
DS
Cakez
Pisskop
Vifam
I think that's a pretty damn good start. Lets use it like a sword
I think they're town motivated and don't suck that muchIn post 1603, rb wrote:i like them because i think it's town motivated but what he says sucks: agree/disagree?In post 1601, Skrub wrote:I like Davesaz's posts so far
Wait, what?In post 1608, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:There is no towny head to this hydra. That doesn't mean we're scum though.In post 1468, Road Kamelot wrote:^^^^ 100000% would rather lynch a no or bad-contribution slot over one that offers 'information'
especially when no one analyzes the freaking wagon after the player is lynched
PLus a lynch for information is useless to analyze in the first place because its not motivated by finding scum as a first priority
Hydras are awesome tho its so great to catch a scum hydra as the towny head tries to protect the head that keeps scumposting
~Zanos
What is this?In post 1608, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:In post 1468, Road Kamelot wrote:^^^^ 100000% would rather lynch a no or bad-contribution slot over one that offers 'information'
especially when no one analyzes the freaking wagon after the player is lynched
PLus a lynch for information is useless to analyze in the first place because its not motivated by finding scum as a first priority
Hydras are awesome tho its so great to catch a scum hydra as the towny head tries to protect the head that keeps scumpostingThere is no towny head to this hydra.That doesn't mean we're scum though.
~Zanos
I thought you scum claimed for a second lol. Meta isn't a good defense though.
I had no idea you were even in this gameIn post 1718, Mirhawk wrote:Things, I'm still fifteen pages behind.
I'd guess rb as the scumkill as he was p/obviously town.
Vifam claimed in the PT for what it's worth, but his kill flavor seems kinda strange.
What makes you think that they're scum?In post 1715, SirCakez wrote:Well we're off to a great start!
VOTE: ascended masters
Maker town flip makes me pretty confident this is scum
I don't remember masters being the main people behind that lynchIn post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Their strongarming a mislynch so quickly
Plus I never really got townvibes from them
I'd say it was both you and meIn post 1737, SpyreX wrote:Then why would you vote them over me?In post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Their strongarming a mislynch so quickly
Plus I never really got townvibes from them
Cause that lynch was me man
In post 1737, SpyreX wrote:Then why would you vote them over me?In post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Their strongarming a mislynch so quickly
Plus I never really got townvibes from them
Cause that lynch was me man
In post 1740, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Kraska77
At work will post more later there be reasons.
@Expedience you had a question why I did what I did. Because I let out as little as I could while explaining my read.
I'm kind of interested in hearing more about thisIn post 1741, MathBlade wrote:I have a theory as to why Vifam was killed. Will post more later when I have time.In post 1738, SpyreX wrote:Yo math of the bebop neighbor crew how about you explain wtf about yesterday and if vi claimed pr which then got him killed
It's kind of weird that you're not responding to any of the people rallying against youIn post 1758, The Ascended Masters wrote:Hey, Smith.
My top priority of today is bringing you into the collective in order to replace brothers Vifam and rb, or, if that is not possible because you are dirty dirty scum, end your game today. I liked a few of your posts yesterday, but I was a bit weirded out by you not responding to my call for a Zanos town case (I assume you didn't see it), and I didn't understand where your drive to solve the game went if you didn't share the mindset that I did of ending the day in a reasonable amount of time.
I'll go through your posts in depth later when I have the time, but I'd appreciate it if you talked to me about some reads that you care about before that time comes.
What's this about?
In post 1785, MathBlade wrote:I think it is Kraska Rach SpyreX and Kraska are all some kind of nefarious entity.
Is this related to that theory you were talking about before?In post 1786, MathBlade wrote:Mirhawk*
In post 1785, MathBlade wrote:I think it is Kraska Rach SpyreX and Kraska are all some kind of nefarious entity.
In post 1786, MathBlade wrote:Mirhawk*
What's super awful about it?In post 1792, SirCakez wrote:this is super awfulIn post 1767, RachMarie wrote:Hey guys and gals I am here catching up on writing for clients though, and I am happy about that because it means the bills will be paid. I genuinely thought master was scum.
Still have a strong town read on Spy, and Nacho so not sure why some people are scum reading them? Will be looking at some ISOs to get a better handle on this game and peg more folk.
As my character would say,
The road to victory seems an ever long and winding one.
I'm unsure what we're supposed to get from this. You just listed a bunch of names...In post 1806, SpyreX wrote:Things wrong :
Mathblade
Masters
Nero
Expedience
Rachmarie
Skrub prolly
Dave
Ceberus
Aristophanes
Spyrex
Kraska
I feel like more. But jesus half the game on the wrong side of murderball and thats if i missed some
Was Kraska in the PT?In post 1854, MathBlade wrote:In post 1849, Skrub wrote:In post 1737, SpyreX wrote:Then why would you vote them over me?In post 1724, SirCakez wrote:Their strongarming a mislynch so quickly
Plus I never really got townvibes from them
Cause that lynch was me manIn post 1740, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Kraska77
At work will post more later there be reasons.
@Expedience you had a question why I did what I did. Because I let out as little as I could while explaining my read.I'm kind of interested in hearing more about thisIn post 1741, MathBlade wrote:I have a theory as to why Vifam was killed. Will post more later when I have time.In post 1738, SpyreX wrote:Yo math of the bebop neighbor crew how about you explain wtf about yesterday and if vi claimed pr which then got him killed
Just got home. The short version is Vifam said something in the PT. Something I could verify. Vifam ends up dead means scum didn't want that something to come out. Vifam's scumread in the PT was Kraska. Therefore Kraska is very likely scum.
Any other insights you want to share?