The real folk blues [Canceled]

[MathBlade]

@Mod Would a PGO show up as having a gun regardless of kill flavor?

[Cerberus v666]

Eh, he's getting more tinfoil hat like here, BUT if we assume kraskas pgo is triggered, rather than automatic, his position makes sense.

Before you suggested that, you should have pushed kraska to define exactly how her pgo functions. This was very easy to resolve, and if she is scum you just gave her an out.

[RachMarie]

right but how about the point that she did NOT claim PGO she claimed 2 shot PGO, why would she add that it was an x shot one if she was fake claiming it?

Meaning of course after one more of the double whammy thingy she would no longer be PGO.

And if that is not a special flavor kill instead of of maf kill then that seems a bizarre twist. The reason a GS sees all maf players no matter what their role is as with a gun, is because they usually shoot to kill.

Also keep in mind there were multiple deaths. This is why I want to find out if it is mb or not, because it helps in sorting out the deaths if you know if it is one large team or two smaller teams.

Logic is the key to solving mafia games.

[MathBlade]

right but how about the point that she did NOT claim PGO she claimed 2 shot PGO, why would she add that it was an x shot one if she was fake claiming it?

Meaning of course after one more of the double whammy thingy she would no longer be PGO.

And if that is not a special flavor kill instead of of maf kill then that seems a bizarre twist. The reason a GS sees all maf players no matter what their role is as with a gun, is because they usually shoot to kill.

Also keep in mind there were multiple deaths. This is why I want to find out if it is mb or not, because it helps in sorting out the deaths if you know if it is one large team or two smaller teams.

Logic is the key to solving mafia games.

The two shot thing is even more ridiculous. PGOs are paranoid.

"Yes excuse me let me stop being paranoid"

And two shot really?

No. The role is all or nothing. No way a two shot PGO exists.

[RachMarie]

What if I find a game with a 1 shot PGO that was town, would that convince you it is a possibility?

[SpyreX]

This just in two shot pgo cant real

[MathBlade]

There is no way an experienced player like Kraska would forget to claim PGO.

She said that she can't be killed.
That would be a message to scum to not shoot her but to town PRs to come on in.

A claim I would have believed is bulletproof.

And that one shot town PGO doesn't claim.

[MathBlade]

Hell show me one even where they do. That game would probably border on ridiculous.

[MathBlade]

Even if the PGO is real I do not believe Kraska is town:

[RachMarie]

Dont you know Spy, you and I are evil scum budz together after all Math hath declared it, so it must be so

[SpyreX]

See why waste time in the hunt for data that won't matter

Pedit shhh let's go hold hands in the qt

[MathBlade]

Now I have to go home and get my prescriptions. I will be on later but I swear this is probably my last game on MS for a while since they don't follow the damn wikis.

[MathBlade]

Apparently everyone agrees not to follow the damn wikis and doesn't tell me.

[Killthestory]

Dont you know Spy, you and I are evil scum budz together after all Math hath declared it, so it must be so

VOTE: rachmarie

scum claim

[kraska77]

You are insufferable
I hate to check this game now because you feel the need to spam every other fucking page with "lynch kraska"
And i really have to control myself to not say hateful shit. Can you maybe try playing the game?

[Killthestory]

kraska what are the functions of your role specifically

[Skrub]

Now I have to go home and get my prescriptions. I will be on later but I swear this is probably my last game on MS for a while since they don't follow the damn wikis.

It is following the wiki. You just don't understand what people are trying to tell you

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm sorry MathBlade, but your theory on Kraska has too many holes in it. I can't support it at all.

No it does not.

PGOs based on their role have guns.
Kraska as a claimed PGO would have shown up as a guilty on it.
Kraska killed Vifam because he would be discovered.
Kraska is very likely not a PGO.

If a game does not follow the wiki then it is not normal.

Did FA say this game was normal?

@FA: is that kill flavor on vifam indicative of one sort of kill, or two?

Also, would vifams gunsmith have worked on the individual with the katana/explosives/biological warfare?

It indicates one kill

and no. It would only detect gun's

She said it would only detect guns.
All Mafia have guns regardless of powers.

The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor. Members of the Mafia (that are not Doctors), Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.

That's only for normal games.

[DiamondSentinel]

...

You're working at cross purposes here.

The mod already said the kill flavor that killed vifam would not have been detected by him.

Thus, there is no connection between his choice to investigate kraska and his death, without scum having multiple kill flavors, OR scum being really really really stupid and not asking if a gunsmith would catch them, once rhey learned one existed.

No they answered a different question.

They said explosives are not guns.

A PGO has a gun regardless of kill style.
If Kraska is a two shot scum PGO she turned it on to avoid detection.

I do not believe Kraska's claim.

THAT IS 100% WRONG AND I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING DELIBERATELY OBTUSE!

THE MOD HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE GUNSMITH ONLY DETECTS PEOPLE WILL KILL FLAVOR "WAS SHOT"! THIS WAS 100% CONFIRMED, WITHOUT A FRACTION OF A DOUBT, BY THE MODERATOR WHEN JET DIED. STOP BEING FUCKING OBTUSE. SERIOUSLY. I'VE DEALT WITH YOUR SHIT FOR 3 GAMES NOW AND I'M DONE.

[RachMarie]

ah finally someone asks the RIGHT question


Kraska could you please explain not only the details of your claim more fully ie does your PGOness do that double whammy kill thingy that happened to Vifam?

And did you claim your character too? If not could you please do that?

[DiamondSentinel]

@Mod-
Would Jet Black be able to detect a gun on the player with the killing ability "killed with a Katana" if he investigated them?
Would Jet Black be able to detect a gun on the player with the killing ability "killed with biological warfare" if he investigated them?
Would Jet Black be able to detect a gun on the player with the killing ability "killed with explosives" if he investigated them?
Would Jet Black be able to detect a gun on the player with the killing ability "killed by biological warfare and explosives" if he investigated them?
Would Jet Black be able to detect a gun on the player with the killing ability "shot" if he investigated them?

The answer to first 4 questions are : no, not by defualt
the answer to fifth question is yes.

Jet Black could detect whoever has a gun.

FUCK YOU MATH HERE IS THE MOD'S SPECIFIC POST.

[DiamondSentinel]

[sigh] I'm calm. I'm calm.

No need to warn me mod. I know I overstepped my boundaries there. I'll try to keep it from happening again.

[Killthestory]

lol are you figuratively yelling at a computer screen?

just close your eyes

[DiamondSentinel]

lol are you figuratively yelling at a computer screen?

just close your eyes

Well, I wasn't kidding on the MS fallout shelter about how mafia raises my blood pressure.

[Killthestory]

close your eyes then