SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Main Character: DrippingGoofball

VOTE: Cooldog

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why do you want DrippingGoofball as MC? Throwing MC votes around seems like a bad idea.

Because I haven't had the honor of playing a game with DrippingGoofball in years, and she's a badass from top to bottom. I want her to put together a party of heroes to go adventuring. I love everything about this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I actually recently spent a great deal of time reading Titus games from 2015 because I felt her performance was so far ahead of the norm in Suikoden that if there were other games where she was also way ahead of base probability at figuring out alignments, then I wanted to nominate her for Best Scum Catcher. She is objectively over the course of the past year statistically several standard deviations above what basic probability predicts (I used bayes theorem and I can show my work if anyone is really that interested and would understand it ... or you can take my word for it). Anyway, suffice it to say that I nommed her (and keep hoping someone will second because being significantly better at finding scum than the vast majority of people is pretty much what that scummy is for).

So yeah ... if Titus obvtowns to me, I would probably be pretty happy to vote her and hope I earn a spot in the town block because the party mechanic is cool. I'm being super careful here ... if one were to view my recent posts they would find that I hydra with Titus as "Learned Hand". I understand her quite a lot more now than I did before.

Everybody can have a hot year. I have a 70% win rate in 2015.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I actually recently spent a great deal of time reading Titus games from 2015 because I felt her performance was so far ahead of the norm in Suikoden that if there were other games where she was also way ahead of base probability at figuring out alignments, then I wanted to nominate her for Best Scum Catcher. She is objectively over the course of the past year statistically several standard deviations above what basic probability predicts (I used bayes theorem and I can show my work if anyone is really that interested and would understand it ... or you can take my word for it). Anyway, suffice it to say that I nommed her (and keep hoping someone will second because being significantly better at finding scum than the vast majority of people is pretty much what that scummy is for).

So yeah ... if Titus obvtowns to me, I would probably be pretty happy to vote her and hope I earn a spot in the town block because the party mechanic is cool. I'm being super careful here ... if one were to view my recent posts they would find that I hydra with Titus as "Learned Hand". I understand her quite a lot more now than I did before.

Everybody can have a hot year. I have a 70% win rate in 2015.

That's in 20 games. Tell me how many standard deviations above the average I am.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I know you tend to be contrary ABR, but why on earth would you actually vote for an MC so early in day one? I can't think of a town motive for it. I'm going to be blunt and say that rationally it feels like scum doing something that nobody will think scum would do so early. You're already hard enough for me to read and trust ... why you gotta make it harder?

I think it would be interesting to have DGB as the Main Character. I want her to live a while in this game so I can play longer with her. There's not much to it other than that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert ya town?

Ya dude. Do you think we should vote on the region to explore?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I know you tend to be contrary ABR, but why on earth would you actually vote for an MC so early in day one? I can't think of a town motive for it. I'm going to be blunt and say that rationally it feels like scum doing something that nobody will think scum would do so early. You're already hard enough for me to read and trust ... why you gotta make it harder?

I think it would be interesting to have DGB as the Main Character. I want her to live a while in this game so I can play longer with her. There's not much to it other than that.

Quick question. Is there a history of games between you two?

Like if metal (rip ) was here I would vote him for MC but well.... yea

Just askin'. Links 'be nice

pedit: I know a good idea. and i shall explain it in a moment for hte region

It's likely been over a year that we've played so I don't remember. Feel free to look at my wiki for match history.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's disappointing that only Drixx is going to spark up today. Feels like a wasted opportunity. I wanted to go on some adventures :/

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hydras don't post in your own account please...

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: DiamondSentinel
For giving me comment section flashbacks.

So, is Drixx the MC from a previous night, and we'll now vote for today's main character?

Nope. The vote today will be for tomorrow's Main Character.

I would suggest we leave this for later in the day. We haven't even had everyone check in yet. Someone might have some crazy cool role and just end up being the MC for the entire game, assuming they can demonstrate it and it's obvtown and such. Failing some reason to keep it on the same person, it's still probably a good idea to let the day transpire so we can try and avoid giving scum the MC.

Oh, I get it now, thanks Drixx.

Since you've no party, I think it'd be a great idea to adventure to Wakatu, because ghost towns are the best location to travel alone to. The full Silent Hill experience.

I second a visit to Wakatu from Drixx. Should be fun.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fair enough. There's lots of people I like in this game. Given just how much the MC decides and how those decisions will impact the game, I am going to be way more likely to vote someone I maybe don't know so well but have a firm town read on when the day end grows near.

I asked for people to give me advice, but there's no vote. I'll decide and it is public knowledge what I decide.

Hahaha you cocky bastard. You're the "starting MC", but if we vote for a new one today, a new MC will be crowned and will be able to select party members.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll say it again. We can demote Drixx and have ourselves a new MC for tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

pedit: are you sure alb?

Yup.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wait nevermind Drixx is correct, we can't change him tonight. :/

It really undercuts the mechanic when you have choices made for you Day 1 (arguably the longest day of any game).

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum can kill anyone they want N1 except for Drixx. That's a scary thought.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I want this day to end ASAP so we can get to the adventures part :/

Is this bad?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Drixx, I will have a recommendation for the adventure later today.

If I get things right, mc travels alone so it's just region today.

~Titus

Why later, just say it now so we have something to talk about.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Drixx, Titus, can we please purge the people who are either trolling or just sucking at reading?

VOTE: Albert

Rules are incredibly clear at this point, so you're either trolling or just not reading, and I don't really enjoy either.

I asked the mod a question in pm and he misunderstood until he sent a follow up.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Drixx, I will have a recommendation for the adventure later today.

If I get things right, mc travels alone so it's just region today.

~Titus

Why later, just say it now so we have something to talk about.

VOTE: Drunken Pirates

For ignoring this pertiment question.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sooner we are out of RVS the better

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't know who you are and I don't give two shits. Sit the fuck back down, you don't order anyone around here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What about Team Mafia?

[Albert B. Rampage]

cant make any assumptions like that

[Albert B. Rampage]

I fucking hate pirate mollie like Tormund Giantsbane hates Thenns and has to repeat it every season.

[Albert B. Rampage]

"Unfortunately he's town" yeah keep having Titus be the one to talk to me because I rather you keep my name outta your posts real sick of your shit

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's three players I can't stand on this site and only two of them play mafia games. Sorry guys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah definitely. Why are you signing Lyna are you FA?

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's three players I can't stand on this site and only two of them play mafia games. Sorry guys.

If I'm one of those people, it would be cool to work that out. I'm aware that I come across in text rather quite a lot poorly than I would like to. I do my very best to have no enemies. I'd be friends with everyone on the planet if I could. For whatever it's worth.

It's not you. The person isn't in this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

PEDIT: Hey Klingon, first post and you've got an issue with a townread on ABR? Why's he scum?

The very first part of his very first post was a vote for Dripping Goofball for the next MC.

The MC vote is something we should put some serious thought into and take our time over, yet ABR votes for DG before DG even posts. During RVS.

When he finally gets that Drixx won't be dethroned today, he jumps off the MC tangent and starts getting aggro with other players.

How is that Town-like???

This doesn't make any sense.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can't remember which one is Shiro and which is FA why don't you guys just sign your original account names?

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: rylai

Not liking their posts one bit

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Rylai and Lina

-gut says that Rylai's trying to earn town credit from her level of investment in this game
-don't like their Flum vote
-don't like this post;

I gave my reads about town reading someone and I'm asking questions to help me understand them better

everything. the way people townblocking. your idea about drixx , stuffs like that ...

~Rylai

-first line feels weird
-asks Sensei to comment on "the way people are town blocking" when, iirc, she was the only one trying to town block - she could have just asked "what do you think about me?"
-requests a town block and

then

asks for meta from two of the players she wants in the town block

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[Albert B. Rampage]

I would like either DGB or Yosarian for MC.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No it's fucking awesome, and you're scum too Titus.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, Rylai is scum. I don't care who you vote for MC.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Talk to Wicked about Rylai. Fluminator hasn't posted enough content for me to think one way or another.

[Albert B. Rampage]

vote Rylai and Lina. Scum trying to play to their town meta, also trust tells much? So dumb, let's lynch this.

Thank you!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Main Character: Wickedestjr

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, Fluminator has 20 plus posts and read walls. Most of the game's content has centered on Fluminator. If you don't have a thought on an active player, my thought is why?

He hasn't posted the things I need for me to read him. That's how I can explain it. I want him to weigh in more on current events.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your passive stops you from having party members. We want town to spark abilities. We want to go on adventures. There's no way we are voting you for MC again.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't give a flying fuck what you think, the entire purpose of me joining this game was so that I could go exploring, adventuring, partying. There's zero chance of you being MC again.

[Albert B. Rampage]

OK. I'm still against you being MC again because you haven't done anything that says town to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Stop focusing on yourself Drixx and focus on scumhunting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We already told you to go to Wakatu because it's a ghost town. You are being a HUGE DISTRACTION to the momentum we are building on Rylai.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We already told you to go to Wakatu because it's a ghost town. You are being a HUGE DISTRACTION to the momentum we are building on Rylai.

Well you don't have to make it a huge distraction. People can think about it and decide what they think. That's all I asked.

Like 3 people have said something about which region to go to. I'm glad for the advice from those of you who have, but the majority of the game hasn't offered word one about it.

You have not said ONE WORD about Rylai and Lina. I highly suspect you for not scumreading that slot right now. And detracting from it with your shameless self-promotion. Give me some thoughts showing Rylai is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're talking about Wicked, right?

Main Character: Wickedestjr

VOTE: Drunken Pirates

DiamondSentinel is also on my list. Don't have a fantastic read on Rylai and Luna but I like the players on the wagon.

Max
You and I know very well that a wagon on Drunken pirates wont happen.. at least not today. Can we focus on other scum reads of yours?

Yup. Agree with angel. Both of you should vote for Rylai.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR, You are distracting from a Flum wagon. If he has 20 posts with zero content, a wagon is a good way to get it.

This is retarded. We are at odds. Again. I'm not going to do what you want me to do, and you won't do what I want this town to achieve. Don't flatter me with your "working together" routine, it's bullshit. We're not together in this game.

"the entire purpose of my joining this game was so that I could go exploring, adventuring, partying."

Where does scumhunting fit in there for you? You're getting on to someone for "not doing" something you yourself said you WONT be doing!

I'm clearly talking about before getting my role PM, so no, I won't be doing any scumhunting if I draw scum, and yes, I still want to go on adventures if I'm scum. Sit down.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're talking about Wicked, right?

Main Character: Wickedestjr

VOTE: Drunken Pirates

DiamondSentinel is also on my list. Don't have a fantastic read on Rylai and Luna but I like the players on the wagon.

Max
You and I know very well that a wagon on Drunken pirates wont happen.. at least not today. Can we focus on other scum reads of yours?

Yup. Agree with angel. Both of you should vote for Rylai.

flum seems more scummy than Rylai..

NO. NO.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Omg most of this town is fucking asleep. ANGEL WAKE UP *SHAKES*

[Albert B. Rampage]

BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE HOW SCUMMY RYLAI IS DON'T BE A SHEEP TO TITUS FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE

[Albert B. Rampage]

DIAMOND ISN'T DEFENDING FLUM. THERE'S VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO ATTACK OR DEFEND FLUM WITH. Angel, I am extremely, extremely disappointed in your read of this game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Angel please just $@%@$ing listen to us for two seconds and put your vote anywhere else. ANYWHERE ELSE.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm getting so worked up because Titus literally ruins games with her bullshit bandwagons on town and town block shenanigans. She has no fucking clue what she's doing until Day 3. Honestly she shouldn't even have a vote, she should just sheep players around until there are enough flips and interactions for her skills to shine. You literally should not be doing anything that Titus is doing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I am speaking to Angel dude.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Drixx it feels like you are playing at a completely different pace than the rest of us. Be here with us now. Be part of what's happening, don't get caught up in your own metal masturbation.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Third,you actually said after Call of the Wild you'd work with me.

Ya we played two games, one of which I gave your slot a chance and you were scum and got nailed D1, the other in which I was scum and had me in your townblock. I get why you would have trust issues with me. That's also why I'm not asking you to trust me. Do your thing, I'm not going to argue with you. I rather argue with the other players.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Honestly, Drixx, all of us can only guess what the heck each of the locations do. Just pick somewhere cool.

I want him to go to Wakata because the reason is completely arbitrary, the one who suggested it had no realistic expectation of him being listened to, and it fits well with the story this game is starting to paint. I fully support this region and this region only.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I agree with Albert on one thing. Her scumhunting doesn't bring up many results.

oh hohoho...low blow. I have history and friendship with Titus. I don't know how she will take this slight from

you

.

[Albert B. Rampage]

BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE HOW SCUMMY RYLAI IS DON'T BE A SHEEP TO TITUS FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE

I am too tired to explain this Albert. But I am comfortable with my vote on Flum. I have my reasons which i have given earlier. I dont want you to do anything for this.. And I am not sheeping someone, I raised my suspicion on flum long before his wagon was built and he hasn't really done anything to change my opinion. Am I wrong on this? I dont know but my opinion says that he is most likely scum. You must know that I am not really talking about Rylai today because i didn't see enough to feel they are scum. If you have reasons, please do let me know... I am open for listening....

You're so deep into your comfort zone that you've fallen into a deep coma sleep and I'm afraid there's nothing I can type that will nudge you to rise.

[Albert B. Rampage]

DiamondSentinel didn't like that Wicked voted for themselves as MC, and seemed to be of the opinion that they shouldn't be MC because of that. It prompted me to vote for them because I thought it would be a funny thing to do, and ABR (i think, am I remembering that correctly?) followed suit. Wicked's a solid townread and his opinions are similar to mine, so he's a great choice for MC imo.

Thanks Max, Make sesnce

Main Character: Wickedestjr

And....concerning where you will move your vote to.....(most important part of your contribution tonight)

[Albert B. Rampage]

We've got a deal if you place your vote somewhere because there's nothing more toxic than a town player not using their vote as pressure and to move the game forward.

[Albert B. Rampage]

aaarrrghh.. I mean, We will not be done with D1 anytime soon. I have time to figure this out. Dont push me on this.

No I want your vote somewhere even if you say it's a placeholder vote. If you think I'm the scummiest player in the game right now, then vote for me rather than not voting. If you think Rylai could be scum, vote Rylai. Always use your vote as a weapon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Come on Drixx, help us out here, give us a Rylai vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can I MC vote "anyone but Drixx?"

Wicked is leading the votes as it stands.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The vote count is NOT representative of the game state. Each of Yosarian, Lowkey, and Drixx have expressed a scumread and willingness to vote for Rylai. This bandwagon is going to take off very soon, you can take that to the bank.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm town and I'm accused of nothing people are just voting me.

I have a shitty list? I suck as town.

But that doesn't mean I'm scum because I'm not.

This is pinging scum SO HARD right now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Third,you actually said after Call of the Wild you'd work with me.

Ya we played two games, one of which I gave your slot a chance and you were scum and got nailed D1, the other in which I was scum and had me in your townblock. I get why you would have trust issues with me. That's also why I'm not asking you to trust me. Do your thing, I'm not going to argue with you. I rather argue with the other players.

Titus this was a very genuine explanation. You've not reacted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your nose is pinging me so hard ABR

This isn't a hentai fanfic, stop.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You have zero desire to help town, so I am ignoring you. Deal with it. You stop being an egotistical bully, I will talk to you.

My purpose is to contribute to this town, I'm on a mission to win.

Third,you actually said after Call of the Wild you'd work with me.

Ya we played two games, one of which I gave your slot a chance and you were scum and got nailed D1, the other in which I was scum and had me in your townblock. I get why you would have trust issues with me. That's also why I'm not asking you to trust me. Do your thing, I'm not going to argue with you. I rather argue with the other players.

Titus this was a very genuine explanation. You've not reacted.

Give a slot a chance?!

WE have a main character ... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1 got mod killed and you suggest to lynch us?!

pedit : I'm town. ask me questions and I will answer. try to advertise I'm not , then we have a problem

~Rylai

You're not going to seduce me into unvoting you, my decision is made. Now it's up to the others to reach their conclusion.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Drixx can have a party, just not today. He doesn't have a passive that prevents him forming a party.

pretty sure he said its about his character. unless i misunderstood it.

We've already been through this. Recently, actually. Read the thread in its entirety before posting again please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR, can you summarize the case against Rylaigh please?

Absolutely not. Read through cooldog, wicked, and Yosarian. You've done jack this game and are voting Skybird, really??

[Albert B. Rampage]

er reads won't necessarily stop someone from responding in a way that outs them as scum later in the game (or makes them obviously town).

Drixx, I think you're town here. I think you're very obvtown. And I'll gladly vote you for MC once I feel we're far enough into the Day to do that. You can go to Wakiki like they said earlier, that's fine. But please stay with us and concentrate on finding and voting scum here. We do not have time to waste or reasons to let scum slide by posting about mechanics and other bullshit. Focus.

You said you suspected Rylai, back it up with a vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The vote count is NOT representative of the game state. Each of Yosarian, Lowkey, and Drixx have expressed a scumread and willingness to vote for Rylai. This bandwagon is going to take off very soon, you can take that to the bank.

And whats that saying?!

I'm town and I'm accused of nothing people are just voting me.

I have a shitty list? I suck as town.

But that doesn't mean I'm scum because I'm not.

UNVOTE: Flumm I don't feel this vote btw. I need to discuss things with shiro

This post is confirmation that you're scum to me, in addition to what everybody else has already brought up. You received a scum role PM, we have to lynch you now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't believe you one bit so here we stand.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm extremely certain that you're scum, having played with you as both town as scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I were always obvious town in my scum games and scum readed in my town games

this is my whole meta ...

this game is just a repeat of all that shit ...

~Rylai

That's a straight up lie. You were townread in the game where I was scum not too long ago. We couldn't get you lynched, and you ended up in LYLO being the deciding vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Rylai's hyperdefensiveness and lying completely justifies my read on her. It's a game Rylai, sometimes you get caught as scum. Deal with it. Don't make it personal please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Enough with the threats, those aren't going to work. If you have something to claim, talk it over with Shiro and then claim it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

your meta reads on me contradict each other...

You're playing the newbie card when we both know you aren't. You're bringing up every imaginable excuse. "My hydra partner not here" "My role pm" "My meta". It's obvious you're scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think I saw something town in FA's posts.

VOTE: Klingon

Sheep me FA.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Flum started the game with a very odd sentense like he wanted to attract attention. people show their will and unwillingness about the wagon. it built several times and disbanded . and now there is a sudden wagon on us.

Flum claim (about hammer thing) looks like a scum or 3party. I have a hard time believing thats a town role. its kind of like "hammer town , steal their powers" . we don't have that much scum in game to get hammered do we?

his read list is basically nothing, the way people are interacting with him is tooo much wifom'y in my mind ...

quoting from hydra chat

we decided to move back our vote here , even though max seems fairly scummy as well

VOTE: Flum

[point : I unvoted because shiro's last post before last day disappearance was a null read on him and I needed to talk about this case with him]

pedit : "our other posts are not clearly scummy" WE can defend. talk to us about them instead of throwing shade

~Rylai

What a terrible vote. If you vote Flum, I vote you again.

VOTE: Rylai

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ok that's it. I want your flip now.

I warned not to sheep Titus. Now you're gonna die.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You should claim who the town characters are.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I said don't vote Fluminator. You vote him. The laziest, scummiest bandwagon.

If you want to gain any credibility, start scumhunting someone that isn't Fluminator or Max.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You should claim who the town characters are.

I thought of doing so but they might be killed off that way. Which is why I thought it better to disclose that in a party.

Scum can't kill based on character names, just player names. It's safe to claim...if you are really town, and you die, the information is lost forever...

[Albert B. Rampage]

What's amazing to me is that you're two players, and neither one of you can come up with a better vote than Fluminator or Max. You can do better than that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The problem with your soft claim is that any scum can claim you're talking about their character. You should straight up say who the character is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Rylai, I suggest you just ignore Albert. He can't do anything worth noting in this game, evidently.

You're a disgrace to the game of mafia, stand back and let the scumhunters work.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I highly doubt all the MCs in the game are town. That's completely imba.

Main Character: Drixx

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who are the two characters

And why is your vote still on Flum change it now

Because Wicked was a townread but like Diamond said he's not active enough to be MC

[Albert B. Rampage]

Townread based on what?
5 post and a self vote for MC?

I might after I get back home and do the triple iso I want.

Also still waiting for your thought on kling
~Lina

He had a nice entrance. I agreed with him.

Kling is scummy. About same number of posts and trying (failing) to fit in with the group.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Her iso is all BS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mod: prod sharky

I've already sent out some PMs to the /ins to replace--I did that as soon as Sharky hadn't picked up their role pm for 3 days.

[Albert B. Rampage]

OK Titus.

VOTE: Klingon

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lol no that's not how it works nice try though

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Drixx Thank you for flying in here and saving me from this shitfest.

I wholeheartedly agree that Drixx is our best chance for MC. The more I read his content, the more I'm sure he's town. From what I've seen, he can read others fairly well, and would choose a good party.

I will say one thing, however. The same person should not get the rewards each night. We want to spread out the abilities as much as possible so that 1 kill can't take out the most powerful role.

PEdit: WOW! That's hilarious! Albert, can I quote you for a second? (Not actually going to quote)

"the entire purpose of my joining this game was so that I could go exploring, adventuring, partying."

Where does scumhunting fit in there for you? You're getting on to someone for "not doing" something you yourself said you WONT be doing!

VOTE: Albert

You're more scum at this point than Fluminator (who admittedly seems to be trying to lurk his way out of the wagon)

This was also very scummy, don't think we've forgotten about it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Aw man and I was so happy when I saw your Klingoncelt vote!

Well it's BACK

[Albert B. Rampage]

Rylai stop wasting our time, vote Klingon.

I highly doubt all the MCs in the game are town. That's completely imba.

Main Character: Drixx

You can't be serious? If he's MC, he'll post more!!!

Yeah but he wants to bring us on adventures.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yosarian, I believe we "learn magic / techniques" instead of acquiring items. I haven't seen any evidence that we can transfer those abilities.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unrelated, I like this Klingonkelt wagon. Delurk or die.

Vote with us!

@yosarian, that's not the case on Fluminator scum though. :/

There is no good reason to vote for Fluminator.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Each region will yield a power that the party gets exclusive knowledge of.

"Yield a power" not acquire an item.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The items were not mentioned in the game rules. But assuming Flum is telling the truth, I'm pretty sure we'll find them as we adventure.

The way I understood that was that he gains powers if he hammers. There's no evidence of items, or switching powers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Would you support me for MC?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Would you support me for MC?

I am infact waiting for FA to get back to me for that.

(I know this question wasn't directed to me but bleh

~Lina

Open question to everyone.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Diamond There is a possibility of me joining you on that depending on how the Titus slot reacts to Klingon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Klingon Rylai

[Albert B. Rampage]

Main Character: Albert

[Albert B. Rampage]

More like 50% tbh.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Agree with Lowkey that I'm a better choice than DGB and that klingon is scum and that Yos should vote her.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I'm the MC, the party will be:

Me
Drixx
Rylai

Last slot probably Cool Cucumbers

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR: you can pick 4 people, not including yourself, of course. So you have a five-man adventuring party. At least, that's how I read it.

Drixx
Rylai
Cool Cucumbers
Cooldog

That's my party if I'm chosen.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not really suspicious of that slot anymore, but I'm surprised to see them go from your top scum read to all the way to the top of your town list that fast.

I believe they have an ability that offers extra protection to the party members.

[Albert B. Rampage]

PEdit: Why not me? [insert Lennyface]

You're voting me to die not to MC :/

I don't think you're lynchworthy OTOH. So you've got that going for you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

wanting abr as mc shows incredibly poor judgment. our slot is compromised for him and he has said so.

I am confused, I really don't know what you're talking about here.

I didn't either.

Same boat as ya'll.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My god cooldog? Really? He is one of my top scumreads :/

I think you're wrong about klingon and cooldog.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus has shown to oppose every single read I have.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus what do you think of my hypothetical party?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I feel like Titus should support me for MC even if we don't agree on everything.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Just confirm that you'll give me any rings you find, and I'll vote you for main character.

You've got a deal my friend.

[Albert B. Rampage]

RaL and Cool Dog in the same party although both town is a recipe for disaster.

I'm sure we can work something out.....

I find your stance that they are both town but shouldn't be on the party very disturbing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why would I support you for MC?

Because I want to bring Rylai and Cooldog who you think are both town, but now you say you don't want them to be in the same party. This is actually very scummy. You're trying to keep the town divided.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cooldog vote me for MC. I got you on my ticket.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Rylai and Cooldog

Can you guys play nice in the neighborhood if we're on the adventure together?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well that ain't happening dear.

People I definitely don't want on the party:

Sensei
Aa9
You

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well that ain't happening dear.

People I definitely don't want on the party:

Sensei
Aa9
You

Then I am never voting you IC. I can comprise from my ideal party, but I will absolutely veto you being an IC if you keep pushing your ego and drama.

We can try to put together an acceptable party but what you're doing in excluding my biggest townreads makes me think you're scum here.

But we agree on DGB, and one of RaL cool dog. I prefer RaL over CoolDog unless like all my townreads are on it.

~Titus

You don't have veto power dear. Your biggest townreads are likely scum. You don't know how to play D1 at all. Stop fabricating reasons to scumread me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We now have a two party system people. The DP's and the ABR's, but the independent's Drixx and Wicked are looking quite strong, even though they haven't laid out any of the details of their platform.

Shit.

Someone ask me something? I read everything that's happened, but it really needs to be reread because fucking hell FA noise again. Plus this is a large, with a number of people I haven't played with, gotta go deep to understand them.

-Cerb

pedit: Oh. That kind of thing. Got it. Yeah, okay, this is way better. I'm going ot assume it's because he knows lurking doesn't make people townread you, and you only get to be MC if you are townread, and he really wants to go on adventures. It's the same problem I have. Usually I deliberately try to get people to scum read me because as town, it lets me live to the late game, where I'm useful, and as scum, it helps explain why I'm living to the late game. But now...fuck. I need people to think I'm town and shit. Some bullshit going on here.

I'm counting on your support for my nomination!

PEdit: Why not me? [insert Lennyface]

You're voting me to die not to MC :/

I don't think you're lynchworthy OTOH. So you've got that going for you.

This is your chance to prove me otherwise. A private chat would be the PERFECT place for us to get some 1 on 1 time together. Well, in the company of a few select others.

So you want to support me for MC, to come on the adventure, so you can discuss privately with me? Am I understanding this correctly? What do you think of my hypothetical party minus one of them and with you on it then?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anywhere but the ghost town is fine with visit 1.

Titus is the only player in the game who has voiced criticism about Drixx picking any specific region. This is alarming for several reasons. One, because I think that each of the region yields positive rewards; there are no "cursed" powers. Therefore, I infer that Titus is trying to get to Ghost town FIRST so SHE can get the power there. This isn't looking good for her.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey guys, guess what? Nobody has responded to my idea yet.

Let's recap:

R&L claim who the characters who they KNOW are town are. Before we have a single death or any uncertainty. Those two players claim their characters. Now, if R&L dies, and we see they are town, we get two conftown out of it. Boom.

Why wouldn't we do that again? It even has the added benefit of creating incentive for scum to focus their fire on certain locations, marginally increasing our protective's ability to be useful(especially if t hose slots R&L claims will be town are actually active and good enough players for scum to consider them a threat, rather than sucking and thus increasing the number of likely targets for scum)
-Cerb

pedit: Shit was said,I'll address it before more shit is said and I end up in an eternal loop of pedits.

pedit x2: fuck, it's begun.

I do indeed want them to claim the two character names, but I don't necessarily want the characters to claim yet. They might be specialized / powerful PRs and if so shouldn't out themselves.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If scum have any info about what's in them, alright, but to openly oppose you and create all this noise in the thread, please. DP is not scum.

That's the thing; I'm saying she knows what's there and wants it for herself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Remove CoolDoG and you've got it. I would want to talk to him, too, but I have a feeling he won't be as civil as you seem to be willing to be.

Okay, we've got an agreement.

[Albert B. Rampage]

With the condition that if the rest of the town are terribly against it, then I'm not taking you. At that point it's your job to make yourself seem more townie and I want to lead this party anyway.

[Albert B. Rampage]

(regardless of whether you're on or not)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Flavor claim alone should not out the level of their power. If the characters don't claim, there is potential for uncertainty going forwad. Only now can we be 100% certain that they are who they say they are, because no scum would risk the cc. We don't know what their alignments are until R&L flips though.

A better plan would be for them to tell a neighborhood of trusted players than to claim in-thread. If scum want to counterclaim the role anytime soon they will be in a 1:1 which is good for town.

I don't believe scum would start a fight over a 5% chance of town choosing the specific location they're interested in, but that doesn't mean she's town.

She didn't really start a fight. She brought up a tangent point from 30 pages ago that may or may not benefit her. It hasn't been a point of contention until I made that post.

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Titus is the only player in the game who has voiced criticism about Drixx picking any specific region. This is alarming for several reasons. One, because I think that each of the region yields positive rewards; there are no "cursed" powers. Therefore, I infer that Titus is trying to get to Ghost town FIRST so SHE can get the power there. This isn't looking good for her.

I was just assuming that there was some iuseful nformation about regions in their role PM.

Same. I'm inferring she knows there's great power there and she wants it for herself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whoever we choose to be MC can still be killed tonight. If that's the case, then the first person on the list of the dead MC becomes MC. I confirmed this with Varsoon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The party remains the same; the successor MC can't choose a new party.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm pretty sure my role PM has a confirmed town person in it and I think we flip with their flavor name when we die so yes, I think my slot might be worth more dead than alive. Especially if it means Titus and ABR can finally cooperate knowing I was town and reading them both strongly town all along.

What do you mean by "pretty sure"? It's details like that that gets us into trouble when we start playing in accordance to those "pretty sure"s.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus, stop nagging ok? It's annoying.

You can't go saying things like "pretty sure I've got a conftown / guilty". It is or it isn't. We can't go to LYLO with vague phrasing like that. It's antitown.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Control your partner Titus. Enough of "Albert is a shit play ok!!". No one's taking the bait here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No amount of personal insults from mollie is going to make me lose sight of the bigger picture. I'm not going to continue any drama your buddy starts. That's all I'm going to say on the subject, can we actually talk about scumhunting now?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Skybird what do you think of my hypothetical party? Can you vote klingon over, let's say, most of the player list?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Skybird what do you think of my hypothetical party? Can you vote klingon over, let's say, most of the player list?

He's voting flum right now and thinks that flum sucks up other people's role pm's/abilities and steals them from him. He thinks flum is scum for claiming this or is implying it by asking me. This guy is scum, I'd be surprised if he wants to bus.

Flum post was based on what I read as a joke (I will complain if you don't let me hammer). It's fine for early stage voting, but we're moving on to bigger game now. Skybird could be a lynchpin for town consensus.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anyone who supports me as MC, be prepared for accusations to start flying your way from Drunken Pirates. She will attack anybody who dares to choose me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nice buddying Titus, how about we let Skybird answer on her own about:

-Klingon scum
-Who she wants on the party
-Who she townreads

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pedit: Skybird is a protege of you??? What does that mean??? Anyone Titus claims to be able to read is now untouchable, its the law.

Yup. She's trying to buddy Skybird, angel and klingon in the hopes of defending them from town / getting them on her side.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will support you for MC iff you choose me for your party, because I need a PC to say a couple things. So unless someone is a neighborizer, I will be pushing to be in the party.

What are your thoughts on klingon?

Second, identify town just as hard as scum. Try not to interfere with them. Work with them. Do not interrupt others, unless their plan is specifically bad.

Nope. Skybird is another protege of mine.

You can think they're town but you're doing what you just asked someone not to do.

I had a caveat. ABR is doing something I know to be bad. He's suggesting to lynch the people I know I can read and lynchbait. That's why you interfere.

~Titus

Flum is the definition of lynchbait.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I agree with Titus a read wall would be beneficial.

Voting me will result in DP being annoyed. I'll make the right decision for town, you can take that to the bank.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Titus all you're doing is trying to pick on whomsoever dares vote me as MC and it's transparent! Everyone can see what you're doing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your avatar isn't showing Max, change it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Diamond isn't remotely weak. You are reaching so damn far right now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mollie stop trying to get a rise out of me and let Titus talk about me and to me. I will not let this game go the way of Team Mafia. I don't want to ruin the enjoyment of the game for everyone because we are escalating drama with more drama. I'm not biased despite what you claim. Let it go.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't respond. Let Titus speak my name like you agreed with her in pre-game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mollie stop trying to get a rise out of me and let Titus talk about me and to me. I will not let this game go the way of Team Mafia. I don't want to ruin the enjoyment of the game for everyone because we are escalating drama with more drama. I'm not biased despite what you claim. Let it go.

If you want to talk, talk. I have asked you why Fluminator is town/lynchbait several times and got nothing more than banal generalities.

~Titus

I've stated many times now.

You haven't responded to why you think Diamond is weak. I don't understand this comment at all :/

[Albert B. Rampage]

Tone down your language it's getting pretty out of hand.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I already touched on Flum. His post that he will bitch if we don't allow him to hammer. It's a joke. Makes him lynchbait.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The items were not mentioned in the game rules. But assuming Flum is telling the truth, I'm pretty sure we'll find them as we adventure.

The way I understood that was that he gains powers if he hammers. There's no evidence of items, or switching powers.

"Gaining powers when hammering" sounds like a scum claim now that I think about it.

I have proof of the opposite.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Would you support me for MC?

Are you Drixx? No?

Then YES!!!

Much obliged

[Albert B. Rampage]

How likely is it that he just comes out and claims that unprompted as scum though....it doesn't make him look any scummier. The abilities he gets may not be that strong. We don't even need to let him hammer :/

What are your reads on klingon, diamond, max, yosarian etc.?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah, I'm going to remove DS. He's not MC voted me, it looks like I'm going to get it without his help, and I think he's still voting me lol.

Does that satisfy your criteria for MC voting me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Uh...yeah, cool....wasn't voting you for lurking though, I just think you're scummy.

*slowly backs off like Chris Pratt in Jurrassic World*

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've had town roles with a gain power when you hammer mechanic.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I would yeah

[Albert B. Rampage]

Out of Titus' list of people we shouldn't vote today, you're the second best behind Rylai.

[Albert B. Rampage]

-blinks- OK, weren't you scum reading me earlier?

No, I was defending you from Flum.

If I'm the MC, the last ticket goes to cooldog or you, with Drixx, me, Rylai and Cool Cucumbers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Effort is non-alignment indicative, Klingon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mystics aren't human, and there are robots, so...

[Albert B. Rampage]

Skybird can you do a reads list?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yep Klingon is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Diamond Wicked posted yesterday, how is he lurking...?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not awfully wrong, just scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Klingon is scum and I'm going to drive this lynch to its bitter end.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You can vote for me if I bring cooldog instead of skybird? I mentioned it was one of the two.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yos wants rings. I can give him rings I find. I'm more useful in the party. Vote for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

@Rylai, Scum happen to be people who voted for her. Second, she swung at ABR in her first post in the thread. ABR has been attacking people all game long who disagree with him. Klingon struggles to generate content outside of battles. Here, that's not the case.

She'd definitely Twilight Zone Klingon here.

~Titus

Diamond's been attacking me even more than Kling, you don't see me retaliating based on OMGUS.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Klingon's read list is lazy. No rational person would think that all 5 players who votes them = scum. Everyone who she likes outside the game = town. Please. Readslist? More like scum claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have no words for this reason

You really should vote klingon.

Titus tell your head to stop trying to stir drama. You know how these things go. You bring up something, then the other person has to bring up their version of the events, then there's arguing, drama, nobody wants that. Let's focus on catching scum in the game at hand, yes?

[Albert B. Rampage]

@ABR, Klingon might be scum.

I know her rather well. Let our hydra talk to her. Her alignment will become apparent. The Klingon vote was fine. Not ideal but ok.

Your current vote is petty and designed to create fights among town. It's not helpful.

@DS, ABR wants drama. Don't give it to him.

~Titus

I think klingon is scummy

but I am waiting for titus's read cos supposedly it is infallible.

I actually trust this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh! Also, we totally had an interaction with ABR! I called him a toxic asshole and told him to ignore you guys and stop bringing this shit into my happy fun times.

It is weird that he'd suggest me as part of the party though, especially since he ninjaed my post expressing that my loyalty was for sale..:p

-Cerb

I've kept up my end of this! I think it deserves an MC vote, don't you?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey I'm just glad you're town. I'd like to take a quick moment to mention I'm on an 8 game winning streak rampage Yeahhhhh!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your posts have been intuitive and on point since the game started! Really looking forward to wgeurts' analysis.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And thank you!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yep Klingon is scum.

Yeah, that list gives me a bad impression too. I mean, at best, half of that list is just OMGUS. "Yos is scum because he voted for me!" That, combined with Klingon's badposting on page 45, and I'm already starting to regret that I unvoted that slot.

Not to mention that her townreads are downright inexplicable. Come back to the light side, Yosarian!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Could be their hydra private topic.

[Albert B. Rampage]

TOWN

CooLDoG - Dang, he crabby. But he's making more sense than most players.

Skybird

ZZZX

LEAN TOWN

ArchAngel9 - I've played with Town ArchAngel a couple times this looks the same. I never saw her Scum game, but nothing's pinging me here.

DiamondSentinel - He seems to be playing his Town game, I'm not getting any real pings, but I disagree with some of his reads...

Drunken Pirates

Sensei - Who is this guy?

The Cool Cucumbers

NULL

Drixx - Calls himself "pseudo-IC" and normally I'd agree, slot-wise, but he's Towning it up a bit too much, not tons of Scum-hunting going on.

Sharky5x - Funny, those that voted me for lurking never even mentioned this slot... Null until replacement

Wickedestjr - I want to hear more from him.

Yimmy - Lame readslist and 1 other post... I bet this one replaces out...

SCUM

Albert B. Rampage - I've said bunches that his first post nom of DGB for MC was creepy & weird. His obsession with going on adventures - to the point of voting Drixx off - is setting off major alarms. Is there someone in this game that wants to stay at home and gain nothing?

DrippingGoofball - Well, she's cheerful, I'll give her that, but I'm not liking her reads lists or her vote on someone that's been V/LA since the game started.

Fluminator - He reminds me of his play in HU2 - where he was my scumbuddy. And the hammers thing...

Lowkey - Defends Flum, but then votes for a player that's been V/LA.

MaxwellPuckett - In a real hurry to jump on the sick granny's wagon.

Rylai and Lina - Frozen Angel speaks fluent English, I've been in several games with her. This is NOT her Town game, it's her weirdly defensive Scum game. I'm not kidding.

Yosarian2 - Someone else that ignores real lurkers to go after the poor sick granny.

Sensei what do you think of klingon's catch up post placing everyone that voted her in her scum pile, with Rylai, and inexplicable townreads?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Could be their hydra private topic.

Do hydras usually have their own private topic now? I was wondering if she accidentally slipped and linked to the scum quicktopic, I've seen that happen before

Yeah they do.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sensei what do you make of Klingon's nonsensical pathetic excuse for a catch up? Can someone sincerely believe that the entire scum team piled onto a lurker? I don't think so. Help me vote Klingon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ok MC me and I'll see what I can dig up.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't want you in the party.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You don't seem like the adventuring type. You seem like the sit on an island to read playboy type.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Say why

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why not Bakarat?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm growing weary of your hints. You're purposely playing like you're above everybody else.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Stop stirring drama and go to Wakatu Drixx. I also know of suboptimal regions for you to visit. Maybe you should listen.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey Errant, glad you could join. Catch up soon I want to talk to you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Errant wave once if you have a post restriction that you cant quote posts

Wave twice if you can vote / MC vote

Wave three times if it will change under certain conditions

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wave once if it wears out over time / day phase

Wave twice if it wears off under a non time related condition

[Albert B. Rampage]

Point at me if there's something we can do in this day phase to take out your post restriction

Point at yourself if you're a robot

Point at Drixx if he can take out your PR in this day phase by saying a password

I don't know what Luminous is. Point to a place in this thread that references Luminous.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Errant thinks that Drixx can take him to Luminous. Drixx can't take any party members today Errant.

Nod your head if this is news to you.

Hop up and down if you need for Drixx to go to Luminous alone to get rid of your PR.

Blink if you need to be in the party to Luminous to take out the PR

[Albert B. Rampage]

So you need an MC to go to Luminous to retrieve a

Power

Item

To get rid of your PR. This will work even if they go alone tonight.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Or to go there to recruit your physical form

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's test out your voting capabilities, vote me for MC and vote klingon.