Shameless vote hopping in the random voting stage?
obv scum.
Because he doesn't have opposable thumbs. Obv pro-wolf tell.SleepyPanda wrote:Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!
See? Now he is calling people names.Lord Gurgi wrote:Bureaucrat.cerebus3 wrote:Because he doesn't have opposable thumbs. Obv pro-wolf tell.SleepyPanda wrote:Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!
More votes on Lord plz
[is pwned]Lord Gurgi wrote:[Witty Comeback]cerebus3 wrote:See? Now he is calling people names.Lord Gurgi wrote:Bureaucrat.cerebus3 wrote:Because he doesn't have opposable thumbs. Obv pro-wolf tell.SleepyPanda wrote:Then why didn't it work for you, huh? HUH?!
More votes on Lord plz
Nice way to mix it up.M4yhem wrote:Also, you're not seriously suggesting that 'also' is a sign of nervousness? Because that's laughable. It isn't, not even slightly.
Besides, I use also in probably 75% of my posts. It helps indicate when you have another point to bring up.
Also, you do realise that protown players can get nervous of being lynched as well, especially if they are newbies?
Also,unvote, Vote:Wall-Efor poor logic.
If everyone who is voting you votes Wall-E, then we have a quick lynch. And If people backtrack on voteing wall-e when their reasoning to vote you was such, then we have scum.SleepyPanda wrote:I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.
Unvote;Vote: Wall-E
lynching along those lines don't move us closer to catching scum at all. What we are doing is essentially voting no-lynch in order to choose who the scum NK, if you follow. No real chance of catching scum, so we just lose a townie with absolutely no info to go off of.SleepyPanda wrote:But the time it takes for all of those people to switch votes onto Wall-E, it could give scum enough time to place an NK.cerebus3 wrote:If everyone who is voting you votes Wall-E, then we have a quick lynch. And If people backtrack on voteing wall-e when their reasoning to vote you was such, then we have scum.SleepyPanda wrote:I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.
Unvote;Vote: Wall-E
At this moment, we have everyone we need to lynch me already.
So your saying that if the scum that submitted the kill is lynched the scum don't get a night kill? That doesn't make sense.BattleMage wrote:What makes you think that scum can submit a kill for the night which they cannot fulfill because they are DEAD? 0.o
What? I said thereBattleMage wrote:What reason do you see to be suspicious of Panda?
BM
You misunderstand me. I meant it would be scummy for someone to jump on the panda wagon for your reasoning and yet be apprehensive about voting the Wall-e wagon.Battle Mage wrote:Oh, i guess i'm scum then! EVERYONE BANDWAGON BM!!!!!cerebus3 wrote:If everyone who is voting you votes Wall-E, then we have a quick lynch. And If people backtrack on voteing wall-e when their reasoning to vote you was such, then we have scum.SleepyPanda wrote:I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.
Unvote;Vote: Wall-E
I dont like this enforcement of the bandwagon.HoS: Cerebus
I'm happy to bandwagon this guy if the majority prefers.
BM
I think Panda is town. I really don't see scum acting the way he did, but that is hardly definitive. Thus, if I think he is town then *quick*-lynching him gains nothing, because we cant really scrutinize why people got on the wagon because everyone would just be "To avoid teh Nk!". At least, that is why everyone jumped on the panda wagon.BM wrote:Incorrect. We have the random chance that the player we choose is scum. We gain info if they are town based on reactions. And we gain lots of information depending on what happens at night. It's how this game works. But the fact you KNOW that Panda and possibly Wall-E are town says alot! Very Happy
That actually makes sense.BM wrote:
We will have a pretty good idea that those who joined the wagon late are not scum, because they would have submitted the kill. Duh... Rolling Eyes
Because he was using crap logic to vote for panda. That was certainly more than the case against Panda now aint it?
Sorry, i meant Wall-E. Embarassed
Same question, names transposed. Razz
Meh, I think itBattle Mage wrote:Which is what i have done. Which means i am scummy. So you can either vote for me, or be proven to be a complete hypocrite.cerebus3 wrote:You misunderstand me. I meant it would be scummy for someone to jump on the panda wagon for your reasoning and yet be apprehensive about voting the Wall-e wagon.Battle Mage wrote:Oh, i guess i'm scum then! EVERYONE BANDWAGON BM!!!!!cerebus3 wrote:If everyone who is voting you votes Wall-E, then we have a quick lynch. And If people backtrack on voteing wall-e when their reasoning to vote you was such, then we have scum.SleepyPanda wrote:I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.
Unvote;Vote: Wall-E
I dont like this enforcement of the bandwagon.HoS: Cerebus
I'm happy to bandwagon this guy if the majority prefers.
BM
Your call.
BM
I was talking about the panda wagon specifically. I think he is town, and if I think he is town, then OBVIOUSLY I don't think he will flip scum. Come on BM...Battle Mage wrote:You said 'we have no real chance of catching scum', which by definition, implies that both Panda and Wall-E are town. Not that they 'are probably town'. That they ARE town.cerebus3 wrote:I think Panda is town. I really don't see scum acting the way he did, but that is hardly definitive. Thus, if I think he is town then *quick*-lynching him gains nothing, because we cant really scrutinize why people got on the wagon because everyone would just be "To avoid teh Nk!". At least, that is why everyone jumped on the panda wagon.BM wrote:Incorrect. We have the random chance that the player we choose is scum. We gain info if they are town based on reactions. And we gain lots of information depending on what happens at night. It's how this game works. But the fact you KNOW that Panda and possibly Wall-E are town says alot! Very Happy
Where did I say I thought Wall-E was town? Now you are just misrepresenting me.
I don't really get the case at all.BM wrote:I think the case on Donkey is better. What about you?Cerebus wrote:That actually makes sense.BM wrote:
We will have a pretty good idea that those who joined the wagon late are not scum, because they would have submitted the kill. Duh... Rolling EyesBecause he was using crap logic to vote for panda. That was certainly more than the case against Panda now aint it?
Sorry, i meant Wall-E. Embarassed
Same question, names transposed. Razz
BM
Ya, and I think you are trying to rile me up into OMGUS-ing you. and ya it IS obvious, notice I didn't FOS you or anything?Battle Mage wrote:Yeh i think you are squirming right now because you dont want to be drawn against me.cerebus3 wrote:Meh, I think itBattle Mage wrote:Which is what i have done. Which means i am scummy. So you can either vote for me, or be proven to be a complete hypocrite.cerebus3 wrote:You misunderstand me. I meant it would be scummy for someone to jump on the panda wagon for your reasoning and yet be apprehensive about voting the Wall-e wagon.Battle Mage wrote:Oh, i guess i'm scum then! EVERYONE BANDWAGON BM!!!!!cerebus3 wrote:If everyone who is voting you votes Wall-E, then we have a quick lynch. And If people backtrack on voteing wall-e when their reasoning to vote you was such, then we have scum.SleepyPanda wrote:I'm still for lynching Wall-E but I don't think it's very realistic to get 7 people to switch votes quick enough and have this tactic work. I'll hang around and vote myself if people still decide to go that way.
Unvote;Vote: Wall-E
I dont like this enforcement of the bandwagon.HoS: Cerebus
I'm happy to bandwagon this guy if the majority prefers.
BM
Your call.
BMisinconsistant that you were willing to lynch Panda for no reason at all, but not Wall-E, but the fact that you are presenting cases on other players mitigates that somewhat.
The reason im less keen to lynch Wall-E is obvious. People have actually started acting scummy, and it's probably far too late to learn much from a quicklynch with so many people participating.
BM
The hipocracy of such a statement makes me LOLBM wrote:This game moves quickly. I've never been suspicious of Mayhem really. SleepyPanda is off the cards. Wall E is most likely town too. Cerebus and Donkey are the two scumbags we must choose from today. What do you mean by 'more high profiled'?
Now you really are making shit up. I said that lynching panda would accomplish nothing because I thought he was town, and I was trying to convince PEOPLE TO WAGON WALL-E INSTEAD. Once again you are implying that I said I thought WALL-E was town, which I NEVER SAID OR IMPLIED. Panda had said that he was willing to lynch himself just to ensure a quick-lynch, but sense I thought he was town I thought that would acomplish nothing, so we should wagon someone else.Battle Mage wrote:But that's just the thing. You WEREN'T talking about the panda wagon specifically. If you had been, your comments would have made no sense, as your argument was that the policy as a whole would ALWAYS FAIL. Hence, by definition, you declared knowledge that at the very least, the two major bandwagons at the time (in a state of flux as i recall) were both leading towards mislynches. And with the 2 claims we have now, this view is confirmed. Hence my suspicion of you is even stronger.
Where? You have been saying this all game but you havent shown where I said this.BM wrote:A chance? Lol.Cerebus wrote: And I APPROVED of the WALL-E wagon, obviously I think there is a chance he can flip scum.
Not buying it kiddo. You pretty much admitted that you knew he was town. Of course you arent going to advertise this, because you were trying to get him lynched. But the fact remains that you knew more than you were saying.
AND PANDA HAD DOME NOTHING SCUMMY WHATSOEVER!!! It is like Wall-e had 1 scummy point, and panda had 0. Obv Wall-E is the better wagon.BM wrote:IT WAS A RANDOM F*KING VOTE!!!!!ONE!Because he was using crap logic to vote for panda. That was certainly more than the case against Panda now aint it?Sorry, i meant Wall-E. Embarassed
Same question, names transposed. Razz
What the hell did you expect??
Half of us voted Panda for nothing. At least Wall-E had some reasoning!
It looks like you don't like you he said panda was a good sport and voted someone else saying he was less active. What a case!BM wrote:You should read my original quote of Donkey and subsequent comments and tell me what you think.Cerebus wrote:I don't really get the case at all.I think the case on Donkey is better. What about you?
BM
BM
What the hell are you talking about BM? Too scared to OMGUS you? Why should I vote you, unless you are admitting that you ARE acting scummy?BM wrote: Good spot Sherlock. I'm caught red-handed again! Yep i am trying to invoke a reaction from you. What unnerves me the most is how aware you are of how you look to others. Too scared to practice what you preach because you know it will gain you heat. Now THAT is scummy.
Do you think the wagon on panda shouldn't have been derailed? If me and donkey were scum why would we do that?Grimmy wrote:BM: While I DO see you case for Donkey and cerebus (derailing the quicklynch of panda by starting a supposed quick lynch of Wall E, which delayed the lynch long enough for it to be inneffective)
I also feel stronger about the Mayhem wagon, and I think that your case against the other two would gain more ground tomorrow, pending the night actions.
That said
Vote: M4yhem
Fos: Cerrebus and Donkey
Grimmy
thinks this wagon has buitl up more speed.
Whoo BM keep going! I know you can do it! Never give up in your quest to make everything I say scummy!Battle Mage wrote:It looks like Cerebus has recommenced his endless hypocrisy in the direction of Grimmy now.cerebus3 wrote:It looks like BM has started to turn hisendless misrespresentationstowardCassnow.
Gimmy is shamelessly buddying up to BM.
Cerebus is shamelessly buddying up to Cass. And Donkey. And just about everyone who isn't suspicious of him.
BM
Ya, because you have done such a great job showing how scummy I am to the rest of the town... oh wait... they aren't as stupid as you want them to be!Battle Mage wrote:Dude, relax. You're doing all the hard work for me! If i was scum and you were town, i'd be having an absolute field day in this game!cerebus3 wrote:Whoo BM keep going! I know you can do it! Never give up in your quest to make everything I say scummy!Battle Mage wrote:It looks like Cerebus has recommenced his endless hypocrisy in the direction of Grimmy now.cerebus3 wrote:It looks like BM has started to turn hisendless misrespresentationstowardCassnow.
Gimmy is shamelessly buddying up to BM.
Cerebus is shamelessly buddying up to Cass. And Donkey. And just about everyone who isn't suspicious of him.
BM
BM
I thought that panda was town, and I didn't think lynching someone I thought was town was worth it. So I tried to move the wagon onto WALL-E, admittedly it was probably a vain effort, but I would have rathered not quick-lynch than lynch panda.Grimmy wrote:The reason for the Pandawagon was to have a quick lynch to prevent scum from getting in their night actions. Panda went for it for that reason as well.cerebus3 wrote:Do you think the wagon on panda shouldn't have been derailed? If me and donkey were scum why would we do that?Grimmy wrote:BM: While I DO see you case for Donkey and cerebus (derailing the quicklynch of panda by starting a supposed quick lynch of Wall E, which delayed the lynch long enough for it to be inneffective)
I also feel stronger about the Mayhem wagon, and I think that your case against the other two would gain more ground tomorrow, pending the night actions.
That said
Vote: M4yhem
Fos: Cerrebus and Donkey
Grimmy
thinks this wagon has buitl up more speed.
If you were going for a wagon for the same reason, then youwould have and should have voted for Panda in the time frame we were working with.
Do you think your one-post reason for wagoning Wall-E is reason enough to make a wagon? Because shifting the quick lynch to someone else defeated the purpose of the quick lynch.
So, In summary,
Was your Wagon on Wall-E because of a quick lynch attempt?
Or was is because his one post was scummy enough to justify his lynch?
Grimmy
enquiring grimms want to know
No, that was a pure and complete OMGUS vote. I regretted it the second I posted my explanation...Battle Mage wrote:In what way would lying about being a daykiller scummy? I'm trying to help you here. Make some sense before you die to save some dignitycerebus3 wrote:You have without fail, twisted every single post I have made in this game to make me look scummy, then on top of that you flat out lie about being a day killer.
BM
If you are serious about being a day killer, I really don't think you can just take it back, people are not allowed to take back hammering.Battle Mage wrote:I figured as much.cerebus3 wrote:No, that was a pure and complete OMGUS vote. I regretted it the second I posted my explanation...Battle Mage wrote:In what way would lying about being a daykiller scummy? I'm trying to help you here. Make some sense before you die to save some dignitycerebus3 wrote:You have without fail, twisted every single post I have made in this game to make me look scummy, then on top of that you flat out lie about being a day killer.
BMRetract Kill
BM
Whatever. Your case against me is still ridiculous.Battle Mage wrote:I dont see why not. I've seen it done before.cerebus3 wrote:If you are serious about being a day killer, I really don't think you can just take it back, people are not allowed to take back hammering.Battle Mage wrote:I figured as much.cerebus3 wrote:No, that was a pure and complete OMGUS vote. I regretted it the second I posted my explanation...Battle Mage wrote:In what way would lying about being a daykiller scummy? I'm trying to help you here. Make some sense before you die to save some dignitycerebus3 wrote:You have without fail, twisted every single post I have made in this game to make me look scummy, then on top of that you flat out lie about being a day killer.
BMRetract Kill
BM
The fact i haven't taken my vote off you should tell you all you need to know.
BM
How so? What part of my posts is self concience?
I dont think so. No offence, but every post you make is SO concerned with how people see you, it's hard to see you as anything other than scummity scum scum.
Now why would the scum think that?Battle Mage wrote:It's hardly a power role lol. It's a 1 shot kill i can use during the day, which quite possibly ends the day. If anything, the scum might wanna keep me around, assuming they dont think any of their members are in danger...SleepyPanda wrote:Ok, now I'm confused.
You can retract your kill?
You were berating us when Wall-E claimed, but you basically do the same on your own will?
I guess we'll wait till Johoohno gets here. The tension is killing me.
Also, Cerebus, why is your vote still on me, if you admit it was wrong in the first place?
BM
Right, because I couldn't possibly actually regret OMGUS-ing someone.Battle Mage wrote:"it was a pure and complete OMGUS vote. I regretted it as soon as i posted my explanation".cerebus3 wrote:How so? What part of my posts is self concience?
I dont think so. No offence, but every post you make is SO concerned with how people see you, it's hard to see you as anything other than scummity scum scum.
In other words, you eventually bridged the gap and had the balls to OMGUS me. Then when you thought about it, you realised that your logic was actually shite, and are now hoping that nobody else picks up on it, hence acting all forlorn.
BM
At this point I think he was seeing how far he had to go to get an OMGUS vote from me.SleepyPanda wrote:I would believe being able to retract if it wasn't a nightless game. I don't buy it when you're saying you're allowed to retract due to the mod not being here in realtime to take note of it.
You basically revealed yourself without killing your most suspicious person, who you seem to think is still the most suspicious, for no reason. What did you gain from that bluff?
Ya, because you are in such danger of being lynched OH NOES! I didn't unvote because there was no point in unvoting. I will vote someone else when I decide that someone needs to die.Battle Mage wrote:rofl! IF YOU REGRETTED VOTING FOR ME, WHY HAVE YOU NOT UNVOTED?cerebus3 wrote:Right, because I couldn't possibly actually regret OMGUS-ing someone.Battle Mage wrote:"it was a pure and complete OMGUS vote. I regretted it as soon as i posted my explanation".cerebus3 wrote:How so? What part of my posts is self concience?
I dont think so. No offence, but every post you make is SO concerned with how people see you, it's hard to see you as anything other than scummity scum scum.
In other words, you eventually bridged the gap and had the balls to OMGUS me. Then when you thought about it, you realised that your logic was actually shite, and are now hoping that nobody else picks up on it, hence acting all forlorn.
BM
Dumbass...
BM
lol, I haven't made a scummy post yet, you just have tunneled on me completely.Battle Mage wrote:Please find me 1 recent Cerebus post that ISN'T scummy. lolM4yhem wrote:If I thought you'd found scum, I would, but your case on Donkey seems to be based on him repeating something I said which you think is scummy. Since I don't think calling someone a good sport is scummy, I don't think Donkey is scummy. (I would like to hear more from him though.)Battle Mage wrote:
Dude, you could, ya know, help yourself by joining me in bandwagonning scum.
Ooi, as you seem to have alot of opinions, what do you think of me? scum or town?
BM
As for Cerebus I still don't really understand what your case is based on there.
What do you think of my empking vote?
I really don't think you can retract your kill and even if you can, you shouldn't. Even if there's a doctor in the house, they'll most likely protect Wall-E so you are now number one choice for a nightkill. For that reason, I'd use your power while you can.
Whatever, just keep seeing what you want to see.
You are so illogical dude. I dont even see much point talking to you. When the town is ready to hang you, i'll be waiting.
Just saying that you are so convinced of my scummy-ness that no matter what post he points out, you will say it is scummy.
I dont think i was asking you. Rolling Eyes
At this point I would almost be willing to grant that wish, just so I can laugh at you and cement to the rest of the town that you are an idiot. But that would be like OMGUS to the extreme.Battle Mage wrote:What i want to see is you dead. Can the fairy grant my wish now?cerebus3 wrote:Whatever, just keep seeing what you want to see.
You are so illogical dude. I dont even see much point talking to you. When the town is ready to hang you, i'll be waiting.
BM
only if I was actually trying to get you lynched. Which we have established I am not.Battle Mage wrote:You dont think thats a tad hypocritcal when you are voting for ME atm? roflmao!cerebus3 wrote:At this point I would almost be willing to grant that wish, just so I can laugh at you and cement to the rest of the town that you are an idiot. But that would be like OMGUS to the extreme.Battle Mage wrote:What i want to see is you dead. Can the fairy grant my wish now?cerebus3 wrote:Whatever, just keep seeing what you want to see.
You are so illogical dude. I dont even see much point talking to you. When the town is ready to hang you, i'll be waiting.
BM
BM hates me.Septia wrote:It's been hard to keep up, sorry mod. Can anyone give me a short, unbiased description of what has happened so far? Then I'll have time to catch up.
I was going to write this, but saw farside did it already. He clearly wasn't thinking about the case on me when he voted.farside22 wrote:My vote is for this guy just for this quote alone.
CoheedCambria09 wrote:hey, so first offunvote, i must of missed the post about not quicklynching anymore.
Second I'm going to believe all four claims for the moment(panda=townie, Wall-E=tracker,BM=1shotkill, Mayhem=townie) if all those claims are true then its narrowed down our selection quiet a bit.
The whole exchange between Cerebus/Bm seemed like just background noise to me, with nothing significant going on. But since BM has claimed his role im going tovote:Cerebus3vote: CoheedCambria
Could say the same thing about you. You didn't vote until you saw that I had made my post.SpyreX wrote:I think, of the three, coheed has the highest chance of just not reading the game and stumbling in spewing scum all over.
Why is it scummy? You built a case but didn't follow it until you saw that others were going to. The "does anyone else see this" really doesn't ever do it for me.
No, when I was speculating about the pairing I wasn't thinking about the claim. BM objected to the Wall-E wagon, then later all but said he was obv town, Wall-E then targeted BM for no real reason, then BM claimed vanilla to try to confirm wall-E (which, ironically, he wasn't). That is a pretty strong connection that has nothing to do with how shady Wall-E's claim was.Porkens wrote:You weren't thinking about Wall-E's claim when you accused him of being scumbuddies with BM? Their relationship in the game was built on that claim and the repercussions it had.Besides, I wasn't thinking about Wall-E's claim when I made that post. I was just speculating about how a BM and Wall-E pairing would make sense. When I realized that Wall-E had done something else scummy, I voted him.
Did you believe Wall-E's claim? If so; why FoS him?
Did you think his claim was a lie? If so; why say now that you weren't thinking about it.
Did you forget that he had claimed? That can't be:Forgive me if I'm missguided in jumping up your tube about this, but the claim was central to what we all thought about Wall-E and you are saying that it didn't factor into your logic. Can you please clarify?cerebus3 wrote:You know, I beginning to wonder if there is merit to the whole speculation that Wall-E would have to be a scum partner with BM.
BM seems to be doing everything in his power to make people believe Wall-E is dumb town, Wall-E just happens to target BM with his night action, then BM claims vanilla just to confirm Wall-E as town.
And something about Wall-E's BM vote strikes me as a not-so-subtle attempt at distancing. (trying to get a reaction my ass)
hmm... How was his win condition wrong Lord Gurgi? It matches up to mine.I'm sorry, but since when does being on the same wagon as me exclude you from suspicon? Wall-E got his win condition and his role WRONG. How can you NOT lynch him for that?
I want gurgi to respond before I explain further, but yes.SpyreX wrote:Wait, what? What he said matches up with your win condition?hmm... How was his win condition wrong Lord Gurgi? It matches up to mine.