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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:51 pm

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Miller perhaps?

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(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)
(2) donkeyz12212 – farside22, SpyreX
(1) farside22 – Cass
(1) raider8169 – cerebus3

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donkeyz12212, Jebus, Lord Gurgi, Porkens, raider8169, Septia

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Saturday 9 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)
(11:26:07 PM) thesheamuffin: I'm counting gurgi because I would probably make out with him if I were drunk enough
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:54 pm

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What is the point of claiming. I don't understand that at all?

Given the way the votes went, I'm more inclined to believe Porkens = not scum since it was 4-4 and then switched to majority.

I didn't really post my case on coheed due to laziness honestly and it might be my demise for not doing so lol. Oh well.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:56 pm

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Point of claiming: there will be inconsistencies for you to jump on.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:57 pm

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Farside, Gurgi and Septia, spyrex are probably scum i'm positive.

These 4 top my suspicion list based on process of elimination.

Can someone explain why the need to claim?
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:57 pm

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oh ok gotcha.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:59 pm

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Do me a favor, tell me why you want to lynch SpyreX?
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:01 pm

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I would have jumped on and say SpyreX is scum right now but given the fact he suggests that we mass claim, i just don't know. Seems very pro-town as a result.

If I had to go on hunch,

I

vote: Lord Gurgi


and based on information that I can rule out.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm

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donkeyz12212 wrote:I would have jumped on and say SpyreX is scum right now but given the fact he suggests that we mass claim, i just don't know. Seems very pro-town as a result.

If I had to go on hunch,

I

vote: Lord Gurgi


and based on information that I can rule out.
Is it too much to ask for this fabled reasoning?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:32 pm

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I'm thinking you're worthy of a vote now -.-

Vote: donkeyz


EXPLAIN your votes, please?
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:35 pm

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I'm pretty Adamant on the fact that My suspicions are true but Correct me if I'm wrong but Originally Players are suppose to base things on process of information right depending on what their role is in the game?

its not like i have been a big voice but I'm ready to step it up. needless to say i don't know if gurgi is scum but he's one of the few on my narrow lists ;-)
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:37 pm

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jebus you jump from:
Dead-set town:
None

Leaning town:
Spyrex

Leaning mafia:
Gurgi
Cass

Dead-set mafia:
None

Omgus:
Raider
not including me in anything and then harping on me at first moments..hmm suspicious?
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:57 pm

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I didn't include two categories, the borderline, and the ones I was just completely confused about. You were in the first one, though you just pushed yourself to the leaning mafia.

Also, until now, I've yet to really read up on your posts >.<
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:10 pm

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Donkeyz, why do you keep refusing to actually make a case on the people you are suspicious of?
What is the point of claiming. I don't understand that at all?
To narrow the range of suspects/ catch false claims/ give the town more information.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:13 pm

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Cult?
Jebus wrote: Just a thought, that it doesn't seem anyone's noticed yet... Black back clan = cult/second mafia?
I strongly suspect that there is something like this going on. There’s some other evidence of more than one nightkilling group;
Night Kills wrote:The morning did however bring ill news, since SleepyPanda was found
mauled
up on his hill. Things were starting to look grim.
The next morning they all came down, except Battle Mage who was found
mauled
.
All too happy they came town to the village square, only to find Grimmy
missing
. He was later found
dead
.

Masons?

Where I come from, masons recruit too. And if both Spyrex and LG are telling the truth, and they both have different Cubs, and those cubs are really masons, we may have a group of masons out there too (which, I can only assume, would be good)
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Claiming?

Well, since you guys have started the claims already, I think we should continue.
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However, I strongly caution everyone to keep in mind that there is an excellent possibility of a recruiting cult in this game. I’d assume a worst case scenario to look like: 3 Humans, 4 Cult, and only 3 honest Werewolves left.


Questions, Ideas

1) I think SpyreX’s role claim can be believed based on his breadcrums.

2)
@Raider
, how do you find the Alpha?

3)
FoS
on
Septia
for saying nothing today except “2 scum groups? RUT ROH!”

4)
@donkey
: what do you mean by this:
Donkey wrote: Given the way the votes went, I'm more inclined to believe Porkens = not scum since it was 4-4 and then switched to majority.
What/Who switched to majority?
Donkey wrote: These 4 top my suspicion list based on process of elimination.
Please elaborate on your process.

5) Raider, I’d really like you to explain to me why
you
are now so certain that I am town.

Leaning Town:

Cass
Spyrex
Jebus

Leaning Scum:

Cerebus3
Raider


Profoundly leaning Scum
(These are the only two players to have been voting for a townie at
every lynch so far
)
:
Lord Gurgi
Donkey


I'm Paranoid That The Following People Are Cult(?)
:
Farside22
Spyrex
Septia

My vote now goes on;

Vote: Donkey


For being in my top 2, for distancing himself from LG (his vote buddy for days), for jumping on the "Jebus is scummy" wagon, and maybe a liiiitle OMGUS.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:21 pm

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Porkens wrote:
Cult?
Jebus wrote: Just a thought, that it doesn't seem anyone's noticed yet... Black back clan = cult/second mafia?
I strongly suspect that there is something like this going on. There’s some other evidence of more than one nightkilling group;
Night Kills wrote:The morning did however bring ill news, since SleepyPanda was found
mauled
up on his hill. Things were starting to look grim.
The next morning they all came down, except Battle Mage who was found
mauled
.
All too happy they came town to the village square, only to find Grimmy
missing
. He was later found
dead
.
There are not two different maifa groups, note that there has only been one kill per night.

The other werewolf clan is clearly the primary mafia group, as evidenced by the fact that coheeds role says mafia explicitly. Also, the mauled MO supports this.

The whole cult thing came out of nowhere though... O_o. A cult would not explain the inconsistency in the kill MO's though, because cults usually can't kill.

Jumping to the conclusion that there has to be more than one scum group is interesting though...
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:45 pm

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I never said I was certain of it, I just strongly suspect that "there is something like that going on."

I don't think it's THAT radical of a possibility;

In SWWII, the Berzerker was also a BP who didn't know if he got shot.

A second killing group might well no-kill if they knew their presence was a secret.
cerebus3 wrote: The other werewolf clan is clearly the primary mafia group, as evidenced by the fact that coheeds role says mafia explicitly. Also, the mauled MO supports this.
That does not explain the change in text between
mauled
and
missing...dead
.
cerebus wrote: Jumping to the conclusion that there has to be more than one scum group is
interesting
though...
Shit or get off the pot; "interesting . . ." means nothing. State your suspicions one way or the other (please).
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:51 pm

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quote=donkeyz12212]its not like i have been a big voice but I'm ready to step it up.[/quote]
why the voting without reason then?

vote: donkeyz



The massclaim idea seems like it could hurt town more than help it, but you guys probably know more than me. So if were going to do it I'm all for it.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:09 pm

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remember occams razor porkens. The simplest explanation is probably the correct one.

A conspiracy theory with a scum group that can NK but choosing to not NK two nights in a row and then spontaneously choose to NK night 3 is too crazy until we have actual proof that there are two scum groups.

I want to finish the mass claim before I say what I think the NK indicates to me.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:22 pm

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Remember Schrodinger's Cult Cerebus3. The Cult both exists and does not until we see the roles.

There's the possibility that BM was shot both nights.

But fine; you make a valid point :wink:

I'm looking forward to your theory on the NK texts.

Claim up people. Septia, go.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:28 pm

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Porkens wrote:Claim up people. Septia, go.
I'm the werewolf princess. After I die, day or night, the next day phase will be skipped.

Pretty horrible role tbh. :/
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:29 pm

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Porkens wrote:Remember Schrodinger's Cult Cerebus3. The Cult both exists and does not until we see the roles.
lol
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:30 pm

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Jebus and Donkeyz should claim now.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:39 pm

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cerebus3 wrote:Jebus and Donkeyz should claim now.
I think they should claim.
I'm going to go ahead and claim, but I think I'm screwed looking at the claims going on. I think with some of the stuff going on I can at least save Septa if he is telling the truth.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:47 pm

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So, just to recap here:

<in order I think>
1. Cerebus: ? (post X) <not a power role> Townie
2. Spyrex: She-Wolf
3. Raider: Alpha Protector
4. LG: She-Wolf
5. Porkens: Vanilla Town Werewolf
6. Farside22: Cop

<unclaimed>
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Septia: ?
Cass: ?
Jebus: ?
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:48 pm

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Edit: X=622 (this is where cerebus "claimed")

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