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I was actually talking to Tovarish, about the disagree with playstyle thing.
But if I hadn't, what's the problem with that?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'd say Chronic lurker is someone who lurks every game, Full-Throttle lurker refers to a Chronic lurker who is at the height of his lurkiness.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, pretty much what I said.
Yes.Is K7 really a chronic lurker?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Not really that I haven't said already. What are you looking for?So, Xtoxm, do you have any comments about anyone yet? Any positions on issues you'd like to take?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I wouldn't disagree with that.
But also not much is really happening yet...The only thing really is the lurker thing. I am generally pro attacking lurkers, but recently I've been through a phase where i've been lurking myself, for various reasons. There's a difference between lurking and not contributing...K7 generally falls into the latter category, in my experience. But my vote still doesn't have anything behind it, really.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Lol, it took me a few seconds to realise what you were talking about. That game had a poor mod. And I wasn't really ever annoyed at you, I just thought you were scum. I was very frustrated by the cop's play, though. But that's not really related to this.
Mm, yeh.Games that start out slow tend to be painfull
Maybe MK can pull this off...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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On page 1? I don't believe anyone could really believe a wagon on page one is liekly to lead to a lynch.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I don't think multiple scum groups are allowed in Normal games? At any rate, for a game this size, 3 scum is what i'd expect. Maybe an SK too.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Ok, well i've never heard of it, and it doesn't sound very Normal to me.
And I didn't answer for Jebus, she is still fully capable of answerinf herself. I didn't say "Jebus said it because [this]", I just gave my opinion.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Actually, come to think of it, I have done this before, and had someone get annoyed at me. Sorry. Wasn't trying to answer for Jebus, lol.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Went back and checked my game where someone attacked me for answering for someone else, cause I had the feeling it was scum...But it was actually a townie. Probably not much we can get from that but just something I thought worth mentioning.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I doubt it tbh. Generally it's 16-20 players for a scumgroup of 4...3:1 ratio and all that. But it is possible.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I see what you mean, but Jebus's comment did kinda sound to me like she was naming who she thought all the mafia were. The "this games mafia" I think is what does it. But I don't think it's all that important.hasdgfas wrote:
I'd have to disagree on that, actually. I sometimes state that I think the mafia are X and Y when I think there are 3, just because I don't know who else could be a part of that group.Reclusion wrote:
Sure. Jebus's first post mentioning her thoughts about the scum team:hasdgfas wrote:Could you explain where you see that post as saying Jebus knows how many scum there are?
The above quote implies a three-person scum team.Jebus, in 111, wrote:A semi-educated guess as to this games mafia would be BM, Reclusion, and Yaw, though I doubt that'd really lead to much.
My opinions so far the only thing really, i'm not getting a good feeling from Hasd. I'm not sure why. But I do always seem to struggle to get good reads on Hasd. Scum could well be trying to lie low, too. I've been yelled for starting lurker hunts too early before though...-
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Would it be a good idea for everyone to claim how many mafia they think are in the game? I think it could help some. Like if everyone thinks there's 3, or 4..?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, in the least it tells us how many scum each person are saying they're looking for. And also, I was thinking it might lead scum into revealing their group size.
Also, you imply it would be useful on subsequent days.
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Ugh, Cult would be annoying...I liked cults when I first started playing, but I really don't like the changing alignment thing. Cults should be open games only
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Yeh, why the hell would you say who you thought was scum? I've never seen that before. Jebus has gotta be scum...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Not really.You shouldn't underestimate BM. He's tough and everyone who attacks him has to admit after a while how great he is.
I see nothing wrong with that. You other point is valid though, imo.xtoxm, I meant that as far as I know, he started talking about it without someone asking him. And that at the start of day 1.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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And BM appears to be lurking, by his standards.
My 100% realiable meta of 1 game says BM-lurker = Scum.
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Lol.
BM's usually a disappointment. I thought I was dying to get a scum killed, but no. BM was just being an ass.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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We're both dead in an ongoing game, but I still can't reference anything...When said game is finished i'll do so...
It's not much important anyway...Unless said incident recurrs, lol.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I believe prods are issued automatically this one...But if not, add BM to that listSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I haven't pushed "lynch all lurkers" for a while now...Truth is I went through a phase of it myself...It wasn't lurking as such, but infrequent, large posting. He does raise a good point though. Personally, I think Netman isn't lurking, but is away. He's new, and I think he's probably flaked and will get replaced. There's only really K7 who always does it, everyone else seems to be here, with a ? over BM.
So, actually there might not be too much to be gained from that, thinking about it.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think Netman is just as worthy, if not more so, of that honour, SSK.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Welcome Qwints.
Iam might have a point, it does seem to be contradictive, but I didn't find it scummy when I first saw it.
I do agree that i've not been getting a good feel from Hasd.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I mentioned this early before BM said anything about you. It's hard for me to point out something particular, it's just a general feeling i've been getting from you.hasdgfas wrote:
Could you explain that not good feeling or do you just like agreeing with people who have no reasoning without even giving your reasoning.Xtoxm wrote:Welcome Qwints.
Iam might have a point, it does seem to be contradictive, but I didn't find it scummy when I first saw it.
I do agree that i've not been getting a good feel from Hasd.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Hey guys - This is going to be my last post for about 10 days. Can't check new posts right now, about to go out, see friends for the last time etcSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Uhh..Hi guys. Post.
Got internet at uni now, so hopefully should be able to start playing properly again!
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LOL I couldn't disagree more!!! But yeh you rock.I don't think it's fair to run up a bandwagon on someone who's V/LA with an upcoming deadline
Self protecting doctor...? Heh.
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Ihavebeen getting a bad feeling from Hasd, but I don't like what Panzer said at all. The mafia are a much bigger threat than an SK, and should be sought before the SK. It is beneficial for the mafia to have the SK lynched. There could still be 3 left, given the game size. Also, Iam's death scene looks like lover suicide and SK kill to me, I think it's worth mentioning.
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Also, I think I believe Jebus. By looks of it, either she's telling the truth, or mafia NKed to try and strengthen the claim, and I don't think mafia would waste a kill like that, really.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think it is quite likely there is a SK present. If you look at the scenes, Yaw was "Stuck to a flagpole". This is SK kill flavour, and it is evidently not the mafia's kill.
Now, last night, BM was "Shot". I think it is a fair assumption that this was the mafia's work. But that's not much important.
Iam was "stabbed", clearly his own doing, by the flavour, AND drowned. It looks very much like Iam was killed both by himself, and this SK. From the flavour alone, I do not believe it can be a vig, not in a Normal game...On top of that, though, both these kills targets were vocal the day before they died.
But like I said, SK is not the primary concern.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think I know what you're implying there.
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If Hasd is SK, then although we need to get rid of him, he essentially counts as a mislynch, in terms of finding mafia.
With a dead mafia RB, it's probably a pretty easy claim to test...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yeh, I agree, I think a full claim is best.
What it looks like he's implying to me is that he tracked has to Iam, or the other SK kill.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I have already explained.Jebus wrote:There is no SK, I'm quite sure.
Night 1 - No kill, I saved Chaz.
Night 2 - A lover is killed, and his/her partner dies (which is part of the role).
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You have already claimed an information role. Why don't you want to make a full claim?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yes, I pretty much agree with this. It does have to be removed for town to win, and it's absense is one less kill a night. But if unknown, the larger scum team should be sought.qwints wrote:My point is that if we have a known sk, we should lynch them. That doesn't mean we should focus our efforts on finding the sk before the mafia, just that we should lynch known scum.
I also fail to see how Panzer's claim would in any way make Cow SK.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Hmm...About the protective roles topic, it varies massively between games, that it's really hard to make an estimate. For example, i've seen (atleast one) games with no protective roles, and another I played in had about 6 or 7. Those are pretty much the extremes, but just to illustrate the point.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Although SSK was (probably intentionly) vague, I still think this was a double kill.Stabbed through the heartand thendrowned in a lakeSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Generally vigs don't kill the most active players by sticking them on flagpoles.117 - makes an assumption there is a serial killer?
The death flavour, this being a Normal game, means it's an SK.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Other than that, I fail to see how you can say i've been low content.Current read: more scummy than town. Content has been low, but does match some previous experience with him. Will need to meta to determine if it is consistent or varies with alignment. Did have a V/LA mixed in.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I repsonded to that as soon as I saw it, before I read the next part.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Not to give him an out, but SSK said "has" replaced directly after he posted the scene. I think he could have sent an action himself.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Welcome.
I weighed it up, but I really couldn't see him saying "You got me" rather than simply saying he sent it himself. So just saying I don't see it as a point against him basically.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Not really. Well not as I said it as such necessarily but anything else would be pretty much tantamount to it, no?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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