Panzerjager wrote:no..I had no info on Alvins. And I'm not telling you what claim it is but i'd appreciate if no one else claimed. Hasdgfas is not townie.
I'llPanerjager wrote: I blocked Alvinz. I thought it wasn't as conclusize night 1.
Panzerjager wrote:no..I had no info on Alvins. And I'm not telling you what claim it is but i'd appreciate if no one else claimed. Hasdgfas is not townie.
I'llPanerjager wrote: I blocked Alvinz. I thought it wasn't as conclusize night 1.
This is killa seven's only post since day 1. He had 7 posts on day 1. Killa, I want to hear your opinion about Panzer's claim.killa seven wrote:Reading..
Because I protected Chaz does not confirm him as townie. He could still be the SK, or any other third party role (eg. survivor).qwints wrote:Hear are some thoughts about players out of the spotlight at the moment.
This is killa seven's only post since day 1. He had 7 posts on day 1. Killa, I want to hear your opinion about Panzer's claim.killa seven wrote:Reading..HOS: killa seven
Chaz - I think he's now confirmed town if jebus flips doc. - Should we expect more than two power roles that can prevent kills?
Jebus - Why is he still alive? If panzer is telling the truth, does that confirm jebus?
Mana_Ku - no read at the moment
reclusion - on a four week vacation, too little information
xtomx - no read despite solid activity
Can you elaborate? I have no idea how you can get that.qwints wrote:2. If there are only two players who can stop a mafia kill
and If the mafia tried to kill someone night one
and If Panzer is telling the truth about being a roleblocker who blocked Alvinz
and If Jebus is a doctor.
then chaz is town.
Above is the flavor for the deaths of Battlemage and iamuser. There should be no question that Battlemage was NKed. The bolded part is what we're disagreeing with: my initial read was that iamuser was committing suicide via his lover role. I'd agree that there was only one kill, or possibly that battlemage was targeted by both the mafia and SK/vig. It would be a hell of a coincidence that both lovers were NKed in the same night. I doubt this is going to yield anything, but it probably should be asked:MafiaSSK wrote:The sun started to reach over the mountains and 9 people slowly gathered around to the town's center. They looked around but could not find Battle Mage or iamausername! They had both disappeared. The 9 people broke into two groups to find where each person was. The first group found BM, who had a bullet wound right in the center of his forehead. Then, they noticed that Battle Mage's face had hearts with Iamusername all over it. They knew that
Battle Mage was Iamausername's lover
As thus, the first group found the second group and helped them find Iamausername. Tovarish was extremely bored and decided to make a wishing coin go into the local lake.Here he found Iamausername stuck at the bottom of the lake with a knife stabbed directly in his heart. The Knif'es handle was engraved with "Battle Mage, my love, my moon in the evening, I will miss you dearly".This confirmed the fact that
Iamausername was Battle Mage's lover
The 9 villagers decided to go back to the center of town to avenge all of those souls that have been lost to the dreaded scum.
Regarding this post:qwints wrote:That's a strange mistake to make Jebus ...
That said, a sk hitting a suicidal lover seems unlikely (although the text on the first page does seem to suggest a double kill similar to alvinz's lynch + modkill.) I'm willing to proceed under the theory that we have a serial killer for the moment.
If panzer is to be trusted, I don't understand why we shouldn't lynch a known sk. Isn't a known sk a plus for scum?
1) The town has to have the sk dead to win.
2) The scum can simply endgame the sk
3) The sk is significantly more likely to hit town than scum
4) Every two extra townies killed costs the town a chance to lynch.
5) We're more likely to hit scum the day after we lynch the sk (assuming a nk)
So, if we trust panzer, we must lynch hascow today. I am unwilling to trust panzer, however, before he makes a full claim and allows an opportunity to counterclaim.
Yes, I pretty much agree with this. It does have to be removed for town to win, and it's absense is one less kill a night. But if unknown, the larger scum team should be sought.qwints wrote:My point is that if we have a known sk, we should lynch them. That doesn't mean we should focus our efforts on finding the sk before the mafia, just that we should lynch known scum.
Although SSK was (probably intentionly) vague, I still think this was a double kill.Stabbed through the heartand thendrowned in a lake
Agreed. My bad.qwints wrote:I agree that it looks like a double kill.
And my point is that if we do that today, then we start D4 with 7 players and most likely only one mislynch as our margin of error. And that's not just the town, the SK is also in the same position. Since our interests are aligned at the moment, it's in the SK's best interest to target scum at night, and in our best interest to not lynch him today.qwints wrote:My point is that if we have a known sk, we should lynch them. That doesn't mean we should focus our efforts on finding the sk before the mafia, just that we should lynch known scum.
I find that scum more often defend townies than their partners. Have I actually done anything scummy to make you think I'm scum? Or are you just thinking that based on dead scum "defending me" and Panzer's terrible "info" on me?chazworthington wrote:In Yaw's list of players D1, he mentioned that Cow was unjustly targeted D1. That might be the closest thing we have to Yaw defending another player.
Are you saying the sk is basically a vig for the purposes of today? It's not like the sk knows who is scum and who isn't, so the question appears to be if the chance of the sk hitting scum tonight is greater than the chance of them hitting town.chazworthington wrote:And my point is that if we do that today, then we start D4 with 7 players and most likely only one mislynch as our margin of error. And that's not just the town, the SK is also in the same position. Since our interests are aligned at the moment, it's in the SK's best interest to target scum at night, and in our best interest to not lynch him today.qwints wrote:My point is that if we have a known sk, we should lynch them. That doesn't mean we should focus our efforts on finding the sk before the mafia, just that we should lynch known scum.
His claim is believeable, i dont think he would come out and fake claim on day 2, i have never played with him but it doesnt seem likely.qwints wrote:Hear are some thoughts about players out of the spotlight at the moment.
This is killa seven's only post since day 1. He had 7 posts on day 1. Killa, I want to hear your opinion about Panzer's claim.killa seven wrote:Reading..HOS: killa seven