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I'm sheeping Shaziro. I have lots of D&D experience, but none with Strahd. If you say the Woods is where the Bad Things are, and the cemetary is where Loot is, let's go there.
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I've got plenty of wood, bb.In post 79, Shaziro wrote:Huh. And I thought they said you can take the pine out of the woods, but you can't take the woods out of the pine. Haha. Ha....I'll see myself out."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Shaziro, I'd like to give you the amulet, but do you think you can make the best use of it?In post 186, Clumsy wrote:A question was brought up to me that was not explained in the rules. I added it to the rules section, but here is the relevant rule:
If you have any questions about this, let me know."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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There's not a whole lot to go on yet, we haven't even started voting for a lynch yet. The first round of voting was for a random unknown, up until you pointed us toward the cemetary. This one is also essentially random, except for my partial claim. I don't really like it either, but there you go."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Don't care.In post 374, culted wrote:
I could get down with this.In post 369, shaddowez wrote:
VOTE: DunnstralIn post 361, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Pine
It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.
You're literally saying "Town helped him get this item, now let's lynch him to see if he is actually town or not." That's terrible, and I can't even fathom how that would ever come from a town mindset.
Why is nobody asking me why I'm voting shaz?
I could go for a Dunn lynch, but I'm more inclined to give a vig shoot him, if there is one.Vigilante, please shoot Dunnstral. We need to resolve the Miller thing eventually, and vig shots are more expendable than lynches."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah, for the record, I didn't "gather up a bunch of votes in a short time," I not only was reluctant to push myself at first (because I didn't want to classclaim), it also took us until a near-deadline decision to get that decision made.
So scumpoints to Dunn for the misrep."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm not coming at you because of your vote. I don't give a fairy fart for that. I'm assessing your claim, your behavior, and your meta. There's a difference.In post 414, Dunnstral wrote:Also pine is really coming at me for my vote
And yeah. This looks alotdifferent from the happy-go-lucky, nigh-insane TownDunn I've seen. This looks calculating and aggressive.
PEdit: I don't see a reason to obfuscate what it does. The amulet recharges a limited-use power to full uses. It isn't likely to be useful to me, but it should be helpful to someone in late game when I'm dead. Choose wisely."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This was important information and deserves to be marked as such:
The amulet recharges a limited-use power to full uses. It isn't likely to be useful to me, but it should be helpful to someone in late game when I'm dead. Choose wisely."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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@Culted: Let vig deal with Dunn. If there's no vig in game, we can always lynch him tomorrow.
PEdit: No, they didn't. But now scum have to wonder if I was telling the truth and it's not useful to go after me, or whether I'm bluffing. I figure I may be able to absorb a kill this way. I've stuck my neck out this far and painted a target on my back, I may as well confuse them more. Or not! Fuck you, scum."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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You're right. Ordinarily, Town would have no reason to declare themselves BP. I, however, am not BP. It's complicated. Healing myself isn't a guarantee, as my role PM suggests that there are conditions and abilities which could stack to defeat it. It's also limited use. You said unlimited, not me. That's why I said it is "unlikely" I would get to use the amulet, as it would necessitate me surviving long enough to need recharging.In post 474, Persivul wrote:In post 420, Pine wrote:This was important information and deserves to be marked as such:
The amulet recharges a limited-use power to full uses. It isn't likely to be useful to me, but it should be helpful to someone in late game when I'm dead. Choose wisely.
You can self-heal.In post 424, Pine wrote:I'm semi-BP anyway. I can self-heal.
First, if this is true, town has every reason NOT to claim this. You should WANT scum to target you, thereby wasting a shot. Scum OTOH could claim it to explain why they weren't NK'd, as previously noted.
Second, it would be incredibly unfair to scum for a townie to have unlimited self-heals. This would likely be a 1X or at most 2X power. You claim the amulet recharges a limited-use power to full uses. Yet, you say that it isn't likely to be useful to you.
Third, rules say that mafia have daytalk. Pine said he found info on Amulet of St. Markovia. I tried googling it but didn't find anything. If Pine flips scum, then one of the people with flavor knowledge (shaz or jason, IMO shaz) is likely scum as well and fed him info in the scum chat.
VOTE: Pine
Also, I can direct the healing at someone else instead of me, which is why I feel it is beneficial to deploy some anti-scum WIFOM about how the power works and who I'll be targeting. It's not just a scum tool, it's just rare that Town is in the position of having more information and needing to act unpredictably. I've already put so much of myself out there that I felt it necessary to dodge and weave a bit.
Further, here's a link. I found it on my very first Google attempt, using the terms Strahd and amulet, because I couldn't recall the name that Shaziro said. Your Google-fu isweak.
It also would give 2 back to a 2x power, or 3 back to a 3x power, etc. Don't misrep what I said, I said that it recharges a single power to full.In post 487, Persivul wrote:
I'm reading it as saying that if you have a 1X power and use it, this amulet would give you 1X back.In post 483, KuroiXHF wrote:It doesn't quite say what it does, though.
I am extremely happy with my Persival vote. He is WAY too interested in getting an empowered PR lynched, because he's afraid he can't get me killed at night.
Shaziro. He's my strongest Townread. He didn't have to give us the information that led to finding the amulet, and he didn't have to champion my softclaim when we got it. Indeed, I find it likely he would have received it by vote if I hadn't spoken up. I don't see scum motivations for those things. Other candidates are Kuror0 or SlySly, I get Town vibes from them.In post 502, SlySly wrote:
I understand where you're coming from, but I'm willing to at least wait through N1 to take Pine out.In post 500, Persivul wrote:
Lynching scum outweighs the benefit of any item. We don't know that we have a vig.In post 498, SlySly wrote:I agree with this 100%. I don't agree with lynching Pine though because if we do, he gets to pick who the item goes to. If he dies at night, we get to vote on it.
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@Pine: If we lynch you, who would you give the item to?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 536, Persivul wrote:No, that he specifically said he looked up the Amulet of St. Markovia, but now claims he couldn't remember the name.
In post 227, Pine wrote:Okay, because being subtle isn't working, let me be blunt.I looked up the Amulet of St. Markovia.It can only be attuned by clerics and paladins.
I am one of those two.
They're not in conflict. I looked it up on impulse, found it immediately, then back-tracked to Shaziro to get the name of it. This isn't complicated. Your allegation was that you couldn't find it on Google. I did. End of story. You're quibbling over awkward phrasing, not cogdis or whatever.In post 537, Shaziro wrote:Oh. Yeah, that is a problem. Pine, care to explain?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In fairness, he voted for you first, I voted second.In post 630, Persivul wrote:
Dreal - voting with the person who he finds all kinds of scummy, but says we shouldn't lynch.In post 629, Clumsy wrote:(2) Persivul - drealmerz7, Pine
This is the kind of bullshit, scummy argument that I initially voted Persivul for, and the predatory way he's crafted his argument against me confirms that read in my book."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Your question was stupid.
You asked me how I thought I was being subtle...I didn't hardclaim right away, I was trying to suggest that I could use it better rather than coming right out with it, I didn't grab for it with both hands, what do you want?
What the fuck is with scummers these days asking dumb questions? Ask me about my motivations, or about factual stuff. Asking hindsight interpretive questions like that is just stupid. It's not incisive, or informative, or helpful. It's how you fake scumhunting.
FoS Jason"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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It was badly played, but that doesn't negate the attempt. I said I was trying to be subtle, not that I was successful. The bungled attempt at subtlety directly led to my increasingly hard claim.
Again, commenting on process rather than facts or interpretation of facts is how you pretend to scumhunt, which is what I'm getting from you. Scum like to stomp their feet and demand increasingly hair-splitting answers to inane questions, which is what you're doing.
Ask me a question that isn't just veiled shade, and I'll answer it."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm writing a final paper. You'll get it, but probably not until Thursday. I'm done with the semester Thursday.
Short answer is this:
TRs - Shaziro, Creature, kuror0, maybe SlySly, maybe culted
SRs - Persivul, Jason
Not all reads are equal, and I feel like I'm forgetting some. Longer post Thursday."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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That's not the objective of that question, though. You're asking "How is this subtle?" That's not an alignment-indicative thing. It's an "Ah crap that attempt at subtlety didn't work, I'd better just come out with it" thing. You can't reframe the narrative of your question when called on it. If you'd owned the fact that your line of questioning was shitty and unproductive, I'd give you Towncred, but instead you're making excuses. Again, your side of this conversation is an effort to mimic scumhunting."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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No, you're not trying to "understand thinking". "Understanding thinking" would be asking why I decided to softclaim in the first place, not critiquing my execution. That's the real difference - you're asking "Why'd you do it that way?" instead of "Why'd you do it?" The latter is investigative. The former is a scummy imitation."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I've given my reasons.In post 724, Persivul wrote:
Why not? What are the town motivations for the claim?In post 722, Creature wrote:I don't see Pine claiming semi-BP as scum.
What are the scum motivations? Who would I be protecting myself from?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Asking what the Town motivation for such an action is without considering scum motivations is both classic strawman argument and false dichotomy btw. You're inventing a one-sided argument that you can defeat in detail without regard to other implications, and you're also creating a Town/not Town dichotomy which isn't real. You're failing to consider the whole range of options. In addition to Town/Scum, there's also NAI, human error, Scum-pretending-Town, Town misreading the situation, and half a dozen interpretive variants.
There's no real reason for that claim as scum, unless I'm scum trying to look like a Town error. Doesn't stand up to Occam."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Think: What does the semi-BP claim get me?
That's a much more incisive question.
Jason, this is qhy your questions were bullshit. They don't speak to motive or reasoning, they spoke to process and method under the guise of mindset, while not actually providing either. The initial softclaim was anerror, one which I shouldn't have made regardless of alignment. I'm just trying to clean up my mess and not lose Town a PR at this point.
PEdit: Bullshit. The reason is to not GET night killed. If I wanted to explain after the fact, I'd claim later, not needlessly complicate things now."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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It's pretty weak. Mostly a general read on his attitude and his apparent motivation to gamesolve.culted wrote:Pine, why are you townreading kuror?
PEdit: I'm not misrepping you, I don't think it's valid. Why the fuck would I do that?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Scum motivation has not beenfairlyconsidered, from my perspective. I find your reasoning to be utter nonsense that does not hold up to Occam, nor does it actually provide the protection you're talking about. Scum just doesn't do that.
The absence of an adverb does not misrepresentation make."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah, it was an error. AllI can do is make the best of a bad situation.
Putting out a BP claim hopefully redirects the kill away from me, or if they don't believe it, onto me to be blocked.
The fact that you're ignoring all this shit and tunnelling super hard is making me think you're Town after all, and that's kind of super depressing.
Considering replacing out.
PEdit: I don't really agree with the scumminess of kuror0's case, but meh. I don't necessarily see the case on drealmerz. What's your thoughts on Jason? He looks more motivated toappearactive than actuallybeingproductive.
PEdit2: Shut up, Creature. Analyzing anti-scum WIFOM is anti-Town."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Neither of those are AtE. If I'd said "Persivul is being mean to me!" it would be AtE. Both of those are behaviors. You're exhibiting unwarranted confidence not in line with being in the uninformed minority, coupled with disdain for those who disagree - that's arrogance. You are also attacking those who disagree with you and intimidating them into doing what you say, rather than convincing them - that's bullying behavior. There's a difference between schoolyard give-me-your-lunch-money bullying and argumentive bullying, you're doing the latter.Persivul wrote:
Point being that the nature of the attack - AtE - appears coordinated.In post 866, Pine wrote:Yes, how clever of us to coordinate right out in the open, when we have daychat.Bullying andarrogancecoming out like that seems like more than coincidence."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I really dislike my options. The case on drealmerz looks solid, but everyone else that I suspect is on the wagon. I think I need to review my reads again and consider my objectivity. I don't think I'm likely to reverse on Jason, there's a lot of incongruity to his actions, but I could maybe see Persivul as tunneling Town? The case on kuror0 is starting to develop traction too, I like a lot of SlySly's reasoning and have generally TRed culted. My stream of consciousness suggests that kuror0 may be the right compromise here.
Anyone else agree?
VOTE: Kuror0"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This isn't a time to be lazy. Jason's hoping that deadline saves him.
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I targeted Shaziro. I figured scum would be too pussy to go for me when I was a claimed self-healer.In post 1176, Persivul wrote:OK.
VOTE: Vistani
Who did you target last night?
p-edit: Above is at pine. @Dunn - not reading the game I see. This is old news."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Flavor knowledge. Besides, he's my strongest TR, and not heavily suspected. I don't know who scum would target, but he'd be in the pool.In post 1182, Persivul wrote:
Why did you think scum would target Shaziro?In post 1179, Pine wrote:I targeted Shaziro. I figured scum would be too pussy to go for me when I was a claimed self-healer."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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They're both negative utility for Town, and both serve similar functions.In post 1201, Dunnstral wrote:Explain why you think miller and traitor are unlikely together"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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