Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[Shaziro]

Dreal is still the best choice, Shaddow is lurky as fuck, pine is town as fuck. Popping out again before I get screamed at again.

[SlySly]

His second point is entirely speculative, with regard to how I'm trying to hoard items with nonconfirmable abilities etc. Well, kinda bullshit. Most people have unconfirmable roles, so what's his point?

My vote on you has nothing to do with your item. If you're town, which you're not, I think you should give me the item when you get lynched, but that's irrelevant. My vote on you is because I think you're scum, with Shaziro, hiding behind 1. a convenient self heal claim, 2. convenient results on who i've been seeing and calling you buddying with all game.

[Pine]

Sorry, you're right. It wasn't about the item, it was about the "convenience" of the claim, which is utter horsecrap nonsense.

Drealz thanks for reminding me. I had indeed forgotten. I'll go unpack my laptop and get on it.

[Pine]

pine what is the difference between my AtE raging here (where I'm town)
and my AtE raging that got my vigged N1 in the game we just finished as scum together?

Okay, I just reviewed your ISO for the LicketyQuickety game for fresh comparison and better articulation, and two things jump out at me.

First, the raging you were doing over there was directed at a specific purpose, at accomplishing an external objective. You were trying to get people lynched. It was coming off as fake outrage, which is disingenuous as fuck. Here, you've just been trying not to get lynched, full on defense mode with little effort to take down victims other than your own detractors. That's a lot more sincere. Your genuine outrage at injustice actually appears so, while the contrived emotion falls flat.

Second is the degree of control you exhibited in the two games; it's quite different. There, you had a tight leash on it, and let rip only when it was serving a purpose, then clamped down on it. That contributes a lot to the first point above, and screams of contrivance. In this game...hoo boy. You let go a number of times and just didn't fucking stop. A good example is the absolute fucking AVALANCHE of posts that start approximately here:

I'm not toxic, I'm rightfully pissed at a bunch of stupid fucking moves + scum moves that people are apparently SO FUCKING BLIND TO.

town is outmatched in sheer force of will and that isn't going to change with dumb-townies and scum just railroading everything

if you vote to lynch me and you're town, it's going to be one of the stupidest fucking moves you've done - pretty simple

That's not really the start of it, as you ramped up a bit before it, but it's definitely the start of overdrive. The 60-80 posts after that are just you going on a tirade and everyone else just responding to your tantrum. In contrast, here's the

most

vitriolic post from the other game:

Vote drealmerz

This guy is WAY too disappointed at the dissolution of the Josh wagon. Why so invested in it? He was an easy lynch, looks like disappointed scum.

I'm fucking devastated. Seriously. It's fucking bogus. Scum tactics through and through. He sells it well, but I am NOT BUYING IT. If he hadn't self-voted I MAYYYYYYYBE would have MAYYYYYBE dropped it depending on the rest of it, but, nononononono, that is just SCUMMMMMMMMMMM. And if he gets replaced because you guys let him go...omfg...graaahhhhhhhhhhhhh...."ohno they caught me replace me" - it's a fucking free pass

NOOOOO.

It's gotta be my HS culture. No doubt.

That's way more reserved. I mean, even in the middle of your outrage, you're hedging your bet and providing explanation. There's a lot of difference.

Took me a while to see it, but I've got a super solid TR on you now.

[Pine]

Granted, in 184 of LicketyQuickety's game, you and I were performing scum theatre, but it doesn't really lessen what I'm saying. That's still the most outraged post of that game.

[SlySly]

Also sly and I aren't masons.

Did someone suggest that we are? If so, I missed it.

I reread Curse of the Werewolf from two years ago and feel better about Pine.

Since your vote hasn't changed, help me break through my obtusity. Are you saying, after your read you feel better that your vote's on Pine?

[Pine]

I was a weak bodyguard in that game, FWIW

[Andrius]

Also sly and I aren't masons.

Did someone suggest that we are? If so, I missed it.

I reread Curse of the Werewolf from two years ago and feel better about Pine.

Since your vote hasn't changed, help me break through my obtusity. Are you saying, after your read you feel better that your vote's on Pine?

I made a joke about it.
And then figured it'd be best to not do so.

Uh, I unvoted a page or so ago.
Need to think on this.

No, I was saying that I feel better re: Pine being town.

This whole kerfuffle is just completely undesirable.

[Clumsy]

Lynch Votecount 2.6

(3) Pine - Dunnstral, SlySly, Persivul
(2) drealmerz7 - KuroiXHF, Shaziro
(2) Shaddowez - Culted, Pine
(1) Shaziro - drealmerz7

Not Voting:

kuror0, Shaddowez, Andrius


With 11 alive, Majority (50%+1) is 6.


Day Two deadline is

EXTENDED

to: (expired on 2017-01-03 14:00:00)


Mod Notes: As we're getting closer to deadline, make sure your votes are reflected correctly in the VCs.

"All goodness slipped from my life; I found my youth and strength gone and all I had left was death. My army settled in the valley of Barovia and took power over the people in the name of a just god, but with none of a god’s grace or justice."

-Tome of Strahd

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[Dunnstral]

hmmm

If not pine I'm not opposed to voting shaddow at deadline

wouldn't vote drealmerz or shaziro

[Pine]

hmmm

If not pine I'm not opposed to voting shaddow at deadline

wouldn't vote drealmerz or shaziro

This makes me immediately less comfortable with the Shaddow lynch. Hmm.

[drealmerz7]

my outrage in that game was also genuine :\
and that's how I would have been as town pretty sure

[Pine]

The "pretty sure" makes all the difference.

[Persivul]

His second point is entirely speculative, with regard to how I'm trying to hoard items with nonconfirmable abilities etc. Well, kinda bullshit. Most people have unconfirmable roles, so what's his point?

My vote on you has nothing to do with your item. If you're town, which you're not, I think you should give me the item when you get lynched, but that's irrelevant. My vote on you is because I think you're scum, with Shaziro, hiding behind 1. a convenient self heal claim, 2. convenient results on who i've been seeing and calling you buddying with all game.

That's where I'm at rn as well.

[Shaziro]

pine what is the difference between my AtE raging here (where I'm town)
and my AtE raging that got my vigged N1 in the game we just finished as scum together?

Okay, I just reviewed your ISO for the LicketyQuickety game for fresh comparison and better articulation, and two things jump out at me.

First, the raging you were doing over there was directed at a specific purpose, at accomplishing an external objective. You were trying to get people lynched.

Man, he definitely didn't constantly scream that I was scum and tell people to lynch me without actually providing his reasons, other than "It's obvious" or anything.

[Dunnstral]

hmmm

If not pine I'm not opposed to voting shaddow at deadline

wouldn't vote drealmerz or shaziro

This makes me immediately less comfortable with the Shaddow lynch. Hmm.

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Pine

[Pine]

Sigh.

WTF man.

I thought we'd moved past this.

[Pine]

Fine. Look, a lynch of me is better than a deadline no lynch, because we'll be right back where we are today, with no new information and likely one less Townie.

Let's do this: I've been itching to use this Speak With Dead power since I read it in my role PM. Who would you rather hear from? Jason, now confirmed to be entirely Town-minded, or Creature, who likely has some insight on both sides (remember, he died with a Town wincon)? My flip will confirm that I'm telling the truth, and you can work from my opinions and theirs.

[Pine]

The Townbloc I'm seeing is Pine, drealmerz, culted, Sky, Andy, and Shaziro. Scumread on Dunn and Shaddow. Jury's out on Persivul, I've gone back and forth on them. Unsure of the k-names.

Only people on my Townreads list get input on this decision.

[Pine]

Need input in the next 12ish hours on this, we're on a rapidly-approaching deadline.

[SlySly]

rolling 1-heads (Jason) 2-tails (Creature)

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[Pine]

Ugh, no provable randomization is a pretty general rule. Clumsy didn't spell it out, but still.

Give me your opinion please.

[Pine]

As much as I'd rather not waste such a useful ability at all, I don't want to waste it and not get the perspective we actually want. I can always recharge the power, but I'd rather use it for more heals or will it to someone with a more useful ability.

[SlySly]

I was demonstrating it's a coin flip for me.

Jason was horrible D1. More input like he shared in game would be worthless.
Creature seems more likely to offer up a worthy opinion on things.

I'm fine with what the dice rolled up.