Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

Andrius · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:02 pm

Because you're not in this game, Faraday.

Andrius · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:03 pm

Because Im leery of you steering us away from the two leading wagons.

Pine · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:20 pm

Actually, I'm getting this creeping, sinking feeling that they're both Town.

Shit.

VOTE: Dunnstral

KuroiXHF · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:34 pm

In post 1575, Andrius wrote:Because you're not in this game, Faraday.

No. That was me alt slipping again...

Andrius · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:50 pm

In post 1577, Pine wrote:Actually, I'm getting this creeping, sinking feeling that they're both Town.

Shit.

VOTE: Dunnstral

You mean you think you're town?
WELL CRAP

Dunnstral is a terrible vote. This is long past the policy phase and I'm not at all ok lynching him.

kuror0 · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:53 pm

Why don't we lynch dunn(just because his miller claim, I actually find him to be useful this time, or shaddowwez or even better culted, if we lynch culted I feel this game will be over for scum but hey no one listens to me.

-drunk kuro out.

Andrius · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:59 pm

You know.
I actually might be ok with a culted lynch.

ugh

Andrius · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:01 pm

TOWN
Shaziro
Persivul
SlySly
Kuroi
Dunn
drealmerz

SCUM
Kuror0
Pine
shadow
culted

Andrius · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:02 pm

I'd segregate my reads into TOWN/town and SCUM/scum but that's not likely to be terribly helpful at this point.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:52 pm

culted is my #1 scumread

UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: culted

back to bed

Pine · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:07 pm

I don't have a culted scumread.

The Dunnstral scumread has nothing to do with policy. It has to do with two things; first, I don't believe his Miller claim at all. It doesn't make shit for sense in a game with a Traitor. They're too similar, and are both negative utility to Town. The only way I can make sense of both a Traitor and a Miller in a Mini is if the scumteam is two people, plus possible Traitor. There's no evidence of that.

The second thing is that Dunnstral has acted

fucking scummy

. I was all over it D1, but refrained from pushing a wagon on him because Millers are a Vigilante's purview. With no evidence of a Vig in the game, that barrier to action is gone. Further, he has been super scummy D2. Notice how he has only really been active D2 when defending himself from attack early on D2. When the group moved to a drealmerz/Pine dichotomy, he clammed right up and let us go at it. That's actually a huge part of my sinking feeling that we're TvT (fine, Sly, let's just say that I think I've been wrong about him.) This is pretty classic scum. Push really hard when it's on the line, then fade back when a TvT argument comes up.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:36 pm

In post 1580, kuror0 wrote:Why don't we lynch dunn(just because his miller claim, I actually find him to be useful this time

What are you saying here

Dunnstral · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:36 pm

I wouldn't lynch culted

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:37 pm

omg pine no wtf (avatar)

Dunnstral · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:38 pm

Once again, miller and traitor aren't roles that cancel each other out. It might suggest additional investigative presence

Dunnstral · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:38 pm

In post 1585, Pine wrote:With no evidence of a Vig in the game

creature died

Dunnstral · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:39 pm

In post 1585, Pine wrote:When the group moved to a drealmerz/Pine dichotomy, he clammed right up and let us go at it. That's actually a huge part of my sinking feeling that we're TvT

Are you daft? I said I didn't want to lynch drealmerz. I've said I wanted to lynch you.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:39 pm

traitor isn't "negative utility to town" THEY'RE SCUM

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:42 pm

dunnstral, check your traitor wiki info
pretty sure that slot was town wincon targeted by a strahd minion and therefor got killed instead of converted

Dunnstral · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:45 pm

I mean, they're beyond negative utility because they can actually become a member of the scum team

Pine · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:49 pm

In post 1590, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1585, Pine wrote:With no evidence of a Vig in the game
creature died

He obviously wasn't converted. Occam's razor suggests that he was more likely killed by a non-Strahd member of the scumteam. His role PM specifically provides for scum killing him instead of recruiting him.

In post 1591, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1585, Pine wrote:When the group moved to a drealmerz/Pine dichotomy, he clammed right up and let us go at it. That's actually a huge part of my sinking feeling that we're TvT
Are you daft? I said I didn't want to lynch drealmerz. I've said I wanted to lynch you.

Your statement does not negate mine. As long as the lynch was between two Townies, you clammed up and let us debate two sides of the same coin.

In post 1592, Dunnstral wrote:traitor isn't "negative utility to town" THEY'RE SCUM

Actually, Creature died with a Town wincon. He only converted if Strahd killed him.
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You'll note that I brought up Dunnstral again, and he immediately delurked and went into pure defense mode again.

Drealmerz, think we can call a truce and unite on Dunn?

(And what, I'm not allowed to change my avatar to a different kind of Pine? I'm trying it on for size.)

Dunnstral · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:53 pm

In post 1595, Pine wrote:You'll note that I brought up Dunnstral again, and he immediately delurked

You'll note that I hadn't posted in 2 days 14 hours because nothing had been happening and so I didn't want to get prodded.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:54 pm

In post 1595, Pine wrote:Drealmerz, think we can call a truce and unite on Dunn?

Scummy

Pine · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:55 pm

Yes, you are.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:58 pm

that's not scummy, Dunn, that's an attempt at teamwork, which I'm starting to be swayed towards because you are pretty scummy, dunn

sitting back while TvT wagons go towards lynch is starting to look more likely, especially now since both wagons are seeming to stall and drop votes (even if just 1 each)

miller claim also doesn't make much sense given the setup