Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[culted]

Dunno if I agree with persivul that pine and dreal looks like distancing, it could be, but dreal's lack of panic atm with pine getting close to eating rope is enough for me to put that off for at least today.

I believe Pine's wagon is at 4 and stalled now.

You're voting dreal. In a scum!dreal world, what's the alternative to scum!pine and distancing? If pine were town, scum!dreal would be WKing him for town cred. Instead he's saying Pine reeks of scummyness, but then taking the bizarre position that, since very early in the game Pine appeared townie, we should ignore the current reek.

Doesn't mean it's a wagon on scum necessarily but I'll agree the rabble about pine has started to fade a bit. Could just be that town's more ready for a dreal flip though.

The weird thing is that I'm pretty much in love with how this dreal wagon has built up so far, whereas pine I'm not really scumreading any of the votes on him as much as a few people kinda biding their time on it.

Hard to credit if dreal is more likely to white knight a town pine as scum because if pine's town that's a good mislynch for scum is it not?

[culted]

Has been drealmerz7 been posting a lot in Part 3?

Not at all, btw.

[Creature]

Well, he was active at Part 2.

[KuroiXHF]

Are you an alt? I'm not sure if we've played a game before. I will say I naturally come across as suspicious and I'm easily scumread, so I don't blame anyone for that.

I wouldn't really consider myself an alt, I've played on this forum before but I never really found a home playing mafia here. The place I play regularly got really boring/cancerous recently long story short.

And you're not off the hook yet; who do you think is scum outside pine? What's your read on drealmerz?

I don't care if I'm on the hook or not. I was asking you if you were an alt because I wanted to know if you knew about my play or not. Many others can back me on this, but I'm naturally scummy while town or scum. So I'm fine if you scum read me, but I don't want you to scum read me for something alignment indicative for me.

Pine's my only scum read at this time.

Drealmerz is about a null read at the moment.

[Clumsy]

Lynch Votecount 1.2.1

(4) Pine - Persivul, SlySly, Shaddowez, KuroiXHF
(3) drealmerz7 - JasonWazza, Culted, Dunnstral
(2) Persivul - drealmerz7, Pine
(1) SlySly - Creature
(1) Creature - Shaziro

Not Voting:

kuror0, BRantz

With 13 alive, Majority (50%+1) is 7.

Day One Deadline is

(expired on 2016-12-16 19:00:00)

Mod notes: I know BRantz said he had some kind of emergency, but I'm going to prod him now and see if we need a replacement.
EDIT: Seeking replacement for BRantz.

[Persivul]

(2) Persivul - drealmerz7, Pine

Dreal - voting with the person who he finds all kinds of scummy, but says we shouldn't lynch.

[kuror0]

Sry I had to go to the hospital for an emergency will be catching up and stuff later after I get some sleep.

[KuroiXHF]

I hope all is/becomes well!

[Pine]

(2) Persivul - drealmerz7, Pine

Dreal - voting with the person who he finds all kinds of scummy, but says we shouldn't lynch.

In fairness, he voted for you first, I voted second.

This is the kind of bullshit, scummy argument that I initially voted Persivul for, and the predatory way he's crafted his argument against me confirms that read in my book.

[kuror0]

huh. I actually have Drealmz as town.

Still torn about Pine I will ISO him and make my mind after some more sleep.

Someone said scum had Day talk? I don't remember seeing that on the rules.

Creature can you show me what you consider my fluff posting?

should we request a replace on BRantz? 10 days left for day phase.

[Persivul]

This is the kind of bullshit, scummy argument that I initially voted Persivul for

No, you initially voted me for being a "Shady character during early stages" in 344.

In 429, it was "I've got a fairly minor "general feel" SR on Persival."

[Shaziro]

I feel like Pine's story has been changing a lot, and that makes me uncomfortable.

[Pine]

Yeah, generally bullshit = shady.

My approach to this has been entirely consistent. Natural evolution of reads over the course of D1 is not inconsistency.

[JasonWazza]

Hey pine, I did ask you a question.

[Pine]

Your question was stupid.

You asked me how I thought I was being subtle...I didn't hardclaim right away, I was trying to suggest that I could use it better rather than coming right out with it, I didn't grab for it with both hands, what do you want?

What the fuck is with scummers these days asking dumb questions? Ask me about my motivations, or about factual stuff. Asking hindsight interpretive questions like that is just stupid. It's not incisive, or informative, or helpful. It's how you fake scumhunting.

FoS Jason

[JasonWazza]

So your saying your way of being subtle is "i like special powers"?

Because that is pathetic.

[Pine]

It was badly played, but that doesn't negate the attempt. I said I was trying to be subtle, not that I was successful. The bungled attempt at subtlety directly led to my increasingly hard claim.

Again, commenting on process rather than facts or interpretation of facts is how you pretend to scumhunt, which is what I'm getting from you. Scum like to stomp their feet and demand increasingly hair-splitting answers to inane questions, which is what you're doing.

Ask me a question that isn't just veiled shade, and I'll answer it.

[Shaziro]

Pine, I'd be interested to see your reads list and a briefish explanation of the reads.

[Pine]

I'm writing a final paper. You'll get it, but probably not until Thursday. I'm done with the semester Thursday.

Short answer is this:
TRs - Shaziro, Creature, kuror0, maybe SlySly, maybe culted
SRs - Persivul, Jason

Not all reads are equal, and I feel like I'm forgetting some. Longer post Thursday.

[JasonWazza]

Again, commenting on process rather than facts or interpretation of facts is how you pretend to scumhunt, which is what I'm getting from you. Scum like to stomp their feet and demand increasingly hair-splitting answers to inane questions, which is what you're doing.

Ask me a question that isn't just veiled shade, and I'll answer it.

You say i'm throwing shade, but that isn't the case, i'm trying to work out your thinking, to see if it's town thinking or scum thinking.

[Pine]

That's not the objective of that question, though. You're asking "How is this subtle?" That's not an alignment-indicative thing. It's an "Ah crap that attempt at subtlety didn't work, I'd better just come out with it" thing. You can't reframe the narrative of your question when called on it. If you'd owned the fact that your line of questioning was shitty and unproductive, I'd give you Towncred, but instead you're making excuses. Again, your side of this conversation is an effort to mimic scumhunting.

[Pine]

VOTE: Vote Jason Wazza

I'd like to see this happen.

[culted]

@Pine
Why are you townreading kuror?

@Jason
How do you feel about the chances of pine and dreal both being scum?

[culted]

Drealmerz is about a null read at the moment.

Right and what I'm saying is I don't have any idea who you are; I just find it remarkably annoying and somewhat scummy how disinterested you are in talking about who you think is scum while conversely finding every opportunity to talk about yourself.

Also, you took a look at dreal's iso and just went "shit's nai" right.
Don't really buy it he's posted more content than pine has.

[JasonWazza]

That's not the objective of that question, though. You're asking "How is this subtle?" That's not an alignment-indicative thing. It's an "Ah crap that attempt at subtlety didn't work, I'd better just come out with it" thing. You can't reframe the narrative of your question when called on it. If you'd owned the fact that your line of questioning was shitty and unproductive, I'd give you Towncred, but instead you're making excuses. Again, your side of this conversation is an effort to mimic scumhunting.

Me trying to understand your thinking is me being scum.

Your logic is impecable and you don't seem like your trying to find something to latch onto at all.

Hell i'm just trying to get a read on you, i haven't said anything to you being either alignment.