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It looks like we have quite short days, so we can't hang around.
Interesting resrction Llama. Obviously I don't think you'd fake something like that. No character comes to mind that would be voteless...LlamaFluff wrote:
Again, a complete character claim isnt the best path to take D1, this will simply add speculation which is not needed. This is the type of time I wish my vote counted.goborage wrote:Vote: Kmd4390You're what the Spaniards call El Terrible.
But I don't see what you accuse GB of?
I don't see him claim anywhere, or suggest claiming, in his 2 posts.
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Did you just claim Cleveland...?Not a character claim. I suppose the first quote didn't really make sense (it was something along the lines of "this is my house"). #2 being Cleveland was coincidence. I just felt that that needed to be said.
Well. I don't think an early breadcrumb is implicative of scum. If anything, i'd say quite the opposite.
Yes, this is a very good point.Anyways if anyone is making early claims it's you. What's the point of telling us that your vote doesn't count? Are you trying to pass this off as some kind of pro-town role handicap? Why would anyone other than scum do that?
If you are town, you have just told the scum that you are a voteless townie, and that they don't want to touch you at night. The optimal strategy of a voteless townie is to keep trying and try to attract the NK.
So, if you are town, you have been careless.
So with that i'llunvote vote LF
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I think this makes good sense. The VC will just show where we have our votes, not a real vote count, I think.We've already had one of the players tell us of a restriction, that involves us not seeing their vote. This may have something to do with it. And since that person said the restriction caused their vote not to count, it may work both ways. Some won't show and will count, some won't show and won't count, some will show and won't count... That's what I'm seeing, anyway.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well. I don't think a scum would want to character claim at the start, before they know everything. It may come to light later that there is some kind of link/information the have, that suggest his character is indeed scum. A townie has no worry about doing something like this, as they have the knowledge that they are town.And why exactly would hinting at your character be implicative of town? As of now, seeing as how we really don't have much information, I am under the assumption that character role is not necessarily indicative of alignment. Until this assumption is diputed, I have viewed this possible hinting at characters a null tell.
What makes others believe that character claiming would indicate a particular alignment? Have I missed something important?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I did not say careless = scum, I say if you were town, you had been careless.
Well, scum knowing you can't vote is very bad, be you town.
Consider this: 8 players alive, 3 scum, 5 townies, you are one of them. Town cannot lynch scum. Scum have won by this point.
So even if you are telling the truth, you are still useful to get rid off, anf lyncing will be the only way, as you have such an anti-town role. And, we might get scum.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Ok, well I don't like Dalt's wagoning at all.
My point about LF is that he is either an anti-town role, or full blown scum. If he was 100% cleared then I wouldn't want him lynched, but he can be scum. So I think this makes him a very good day one lynch. I did not say I think LF is town, but I want him lynched anyway. I've found his claim to be quite scummy, actually.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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It is not a policy lynch, I never said that and you are putting words into my mouth now. Please don't.Well xotxm is the scummiest in my book right now, earning him my "vote", and I look forward to hear some more from him on his policy lynch.
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When you lynch someone over a consistant policy, ie always lynching people who lurk would be a lurker policy lynch.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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No, I wouldn't say so, it's kind of a consistant scumtell, where you say ifanyonedoes this, I lynch them. So sometimes it can be, yes.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Yes, I will consider other suspects, if you aren't going to be lynched, however I think your lynch is good play.Well im probally not using the right words, but I really dont know what I can even say to you if you are going to vote me purely based on a role. Maybe its not a policy lynch of a player but of a role (again not sure if this is the right wording). Will you at least consider other suspects at this day drags on or should I just not even try to convince you to do anything else?
Yes, I think so. You haven't seen me self-sacrifice before have you...Question to you though - If you had my role would you be asking for people to lynch you if it got outed?
IG, I agree with what you say.
And actually, as my idea for lynching LF is unpopular,unvote vote DaltSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I don't think gobo is scum, he looks very good to me.
And my suggestion did (does) make copius sense, as his presence, if town, move the day we reach lylo forward by one. So lynching him is no loss AT ALL. Either that, or he is scum. But for some reason you guys don't like it.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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One thing I hadn't considered, thinking about it. LF has some kind of power other than being a voteless townie. I guess it's possible, but don't think it too likely. I think he should be made dead by tomorrow at the latest because even if he's not scum he's going to screw the town over.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'm not taking my vote off just because the person I found scummy got replaced.
I had also assumed there were 3 scum...I guess there might not be, but really I can't see there being a number other than 3.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Goborage, I would advise you not to answer that.Goborage, hurry up and comment on whether or not you claimed Cleveland.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I would say personal speculation is ok, but not out loud. This can give hints as to what your own role is, and can also lead the subject into unintenially revealing information about their role.thinktank wrote:Staying away from speculation such as that is generally a good thing because
A) Its just speculation. Whats the point? There is no evidence backing up anything. Lets all follow Occam's Razor and not make any more assumptions than we have to.
B) Because its only speculation. At best it does nothing to help town because there's nothing really in it that town can use to find scum. At worst it helps scum cause randomness in town, reduces scum hunting and also brings us closer to a deadline and a mis lynch.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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What is wrong with pushing hard for the lynchof someone when you believe them to be the correct lynch?babygirl86 wrote:xtoxm- you are pushing waaaay too hard for this lynch to happen, and its obvious it't not going to happen- at least not day 1. What are your thoughts on dalt, who quite a few others believe to be scum? I looked back in posts, and imo it does look like an unofficial claim, however do we really know what a claim of cleveland could mean? my vote stands
Why is it not going to happen? You have reason to believe Llama is pro-town? (Rhetorical) Perhaps it's not going to happen for the reason(s) I have pushed, but Llama is still just as a feasable target for today's lynch as anyway, he should not be ruled out.
My thoughts on Dalt? I didn't like the way he just bandwagoned me, that's why I voted him.
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Why the "and"? Is it not possible that he could be truthful about the lack of a vote, yet be a scum role? I consider it a very real possibility.Unless you think his claim is false and he is scum, I don't see why you would push for his lynch.
Already answered that.Why are you pushing for this so hard?
Really? I hadn't noticed that you were lurking. What makes you believe you are lurking?Sorry I'm not intentionally lurking, just really busy at the moment. I need to re-read before I post anything substantial.
Because you know you are not contributing anything to help town, maybe? I find that scummy.
I do not understand what you are saying here, but I find just giving me a FOS after the wagon that came on me quite weak indeed. Looks like you just want to give an excuse for voting me later if a wagon comes back on me, at some point.Xtoxm - Either he knows too much about the setup (very concerning) or mis-understands the term LYLO. FoS:Xtoxm
I'm not liking Crub at all.
Why?Kmd4390 - I get a townie read from him.
I wouldn't say that he's not. And who are you to call out people for not contributing?Goborage - Why aren't you posting content? When he said "being Cleveland was coincidence" he was obviously referring to the fact that when he was quoting Cleveland was just coincidental and didn't point to him being Cleveland.
As pointed out, I do not agree with this at all.LF - I'd prefer not to lynch LF because I being scum without a vote, seems like bastard moddery to me. Pretty much confirmed town for me.
Yeh so i'm not liking Crub's short analysis at all. Apart from that, it looks like he's now caught up on the thread and also has little/nothing to say. I find him very suspicious. I may change my vote to Crub soon.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Sorry, missed it.
Well, other than my points mentioned earlier, yes I like his last post a lot, and i've not seen anything from him to suggest that he is not town, he's looking quite townie to me atm.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I think he's doing ok. The amount of content he's providing is not disimilar to other games i've played with him as town.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Because, although I don't think IG is aksing it in a rolefishy kinda way, answering it could lead to accidently saying something about his role.Why are you advising other players on stuff? If you turn up scum, I'm not going to be surprised if Garborage turns up scum as well based on your current actions.
Your scum points are starting to add up and soon you'll be able to redeem them for my vote.
Yes, I do believe the claim. Maybe you've got a point. Perhaps he's some kind of rolecop vig, trying to throw scum off. So i'll lay off him for the moment.You seem to believe the claim which is why I don't see the case.
But he did seem very sincere in when he said he didn't have a vote, so I think it highly likely he's telling the truth about that.
I've found him a bit scummy, but yes the latter is the reason why i've been pushing his lynch.xtoxm - do you really think llama is scum and why? Or do you just think the town is better off without him no matter his allignment?
As I said earlier - I find the claim scummy, as if I was a voteless townie I would not claim right off to the scum that I have a horribly anti-town role, and that they should steer their kills away from me at night. The aim of the voteless townie should be to get NKed before he has to sacrifice himself.xtoxm: can you elaborate why you find the claim scummy? Was it timing or something else?
Well, i've just got a general town feel from his posts.xtoxm: Why do you think gobo is town?
Um, sorry? Yes I have. I have stated suspicion for Dalt (Now yourself) and Crub.Also, xtoxm, you don't seem to be looking at anyone else as scum. What are your suspicions?
This is a direct mistruth about me, and makes me very happy with my current vote on you, not on Llama.I am suspicious of xtoxm for not looking at any players besides llama as scum.
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I quite like Reborn's entry, remains consistent with my town read on Gobo.
Are you on Crack? I was the one leading the attack on Llama, I did not bandwagon.Yet of all the scummiest of the scummy here, it still seems that xtoxm takes the cake. Xtoxm's bandwagoning of Llama looks borderline FRANTIC!
Do you not believe in towntells? I do. And I like to think they work in much the same way as scumtells. As in, one small thing can be a major tell on your alignment.And his defense of goborage as town was admitedly based solely on a post goborage made saying that xtoxm brought up some pretty good points. And that somehow made goborage town?
No. And i've already said that. But it does help.Just because he agreed with him?
And your next point about me. Do you not understand what a voteless townie is? It moves lylo forward by an entire cycle, so there is absolutley no loss in lynching him. I fail to see how it can be construed as scummy to push/support this.
Llama, this is you saying thatxtoxm for his stance on my rolemy stance on your roleis scummy? What the hell? How can a stance on a role be scummy? It can't be...It's how someone acts...
This is why I asked Gobo not to answer that, you have just catorgorically said he wasn't roleclaiming, thus meaning you are not Cleveland.Goborage WASN'T character-claiming!! I know what you're trying to do, what you're trying to make me say, so stop fishing right now!!
Why is holding to it suspicious?? I have explained why I pushed it in the first place, and it is unflawed. It would be scummy to suggest it and then back down when people started attacking me for it rather than holding to it, IMO.I will agree with you when it comes to the fact that xtoxm's persistance in a LF lynch is very suspicious. His continuous posts in which the only reason he gives for lynching LF is his PR still is suspicious to me, for as stated in the post above, pushing for a lynch without any viable reason other than speculation based off this PR detracts from true scum hunting.
Why is pushing the lynch ypu believe in scummy?As I have stated above, I found xtoxm to be suspicious because of the intense pushing for an LF lynch solely based off the fact that LF has a PR.
She was on 2/3 wagon's, and not mine? And you're saying that's scummy? I was on 2 of the three wagon's, I am also scummy by the same logic, because I don't think that the third wagon is scummy?Close. You're very close, and here's where it gets a bit strange. She stays off of the xtoxm wagon.
I don't like this comment from KMD at all. He states out of no-where that I have been the scummiest player in the game.Ok, so you are trying to stop the bandwagon here on the player who seems to be the scummiest.
I have done that many times. It's how someone acts you have to analyse. That is not a scumtell. Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean you have to think they're scum.So you disagree with xtoxm but you defend him in the same post.
What crap scum logic reasoning. I am to assume that when you are town, you never trust anyone, or follow someone you believe to be town?Conclusion: BG was on two of the three bandwagons that I noticed. Other connections to xtoxm can be seen. Possible scum pair?
I think GW is probably town in the way he attacks me over this, but i'm thinking KMD might be scum.
QFT.I don't agree with your buddying thing either... just because two people interact a lot it doesn't mean they are scum partners. If that were true I'd be voting for one of you two right now.
A valid point, however i'm not doing anything stupid, could you please explain in detail why you think I am being stupid?ok I dont think xtoxm is scum! how many times do I have to say it? I have seen many games where town people do stupid things- I think that's what he is doing.
This case that i'm scum with BG is completely stupid.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Note - Sorry about repeated use of the same word at the end there. It was unitentional.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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You say she is trying to make connections. What connections? I see no connections from BG to me. Saying you find someone to look town is not a scumtell.a) BG is scum and therefore knows who is pro-town and who is not. Because of this information, she is trying to connect herself to someone/several people she felt others would believe to be pro-town early on in the game in hopes of making herself look pro-town.
Ignore the alignment statements in this quote, and I don't see how anyone case this is not the case be she town/scum, me town/scum.c) BG is town and simply agrees with some points made by xtoxm, and then disagrees with other arguments brought up. If this is so, then it could be likely that my possible scenario A is in play, though vice versa with xtoxm as scum and trying to link himself with a pro-town player in hopes of looking more town.
What? You say you don't see any connections, but then vote for BG over the crap logic case? Please, if you are town, think about where you place your vote...At the moment, I must admit that I am still rather ignorant as to the possible connections between BG, xtoxm, and gobo/reborn, and this is the reason that gobo/reborn was not added into the situations. I will be doing a reread in just a moment, and will then give my opinions of the thoughts/observations posted by others on this topic. As I said before, the scenarios listed above are mere speculation, but from what I have seen of preceding posts, the evidence against BG is logical and substantial.
Because of this, I will vote: BG
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I am not liking how KMD has acted around this new BG-Me "case" at all.
Unvote vote KMD
GW and Kloud do look town to me, and I think they are just looking the wrong way.
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RF
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I understand my defending of BG here may add to this "case" against us, but fact is I think she's town, and I don't like the way this attack is. If I was scum I could easily lay low through this.
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Ugghh.
BG, I was trying hard to avoid having to claim.
As she's claimed, I may aswell confirm that i'm her lover.
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I was even preparing a fakeclaim to try and stop the scum making a NK on me..Lol..Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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And LF, from the way she's acted concerning me, I think she's probably town, who think's i'm a confirmed inno to her.
I ask Farside and we're not, but i'm pretty certain we are both town.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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LF - I do not know.
And I disagree fully with both or your candidates.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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How would it be a good claim for scum to make? It's possibly one of the worst scum claims I can think of...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Posting this in all my games.
I will be away for a few days from monday.
Just to to let you all know.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Well, if one's dies and isn't a lover, we know the other is scum, that's why it's a crap fakeclaim.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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No, you implied that if one died as loverscum the other would be lynched.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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At the point you asked this:@xtoxm Who would you be very happy killing today?
Crub
EK
KMD
LF
And poss RF.
But from what i've glanced at this changes.
I'll post an updated one once i've read new stuffs.
Yeh sorry, sometimes things come out wrong if i'm trying to multitask thinking with typing quicklyI don't understand what you are saying here.
What I meant wa sthat the suggested scenario, ie scenario C, is the argument that holds true, irrespective of our alignments.
Like so..!
c) BGis town andsimply agrees with some points made by xtoxm, and then disagrees with other arguments brought up.
I suggest you change that before I start finding it scummy.My shall stay where it is for now, for even though the lover claim makes sense in regards to the connection, this point:
From the way she has acted, I think she is town. If she is scum, I don't think it will matter much, because I can't see us both making it to the end regardless....makes me still feel that my argument above holds some weight. The fact that BG decided to claim lover with you when only three votes (I think it was three votes) were on her only assists in supporting my reasoning for finding her suspicious on the premiss of her actions being erratic/frantic at times. This factor still makes me feel that BG is hiding something, other than the now-revealed lover situation she had been concealing. It is possible for you to both be town, but it is also possible for one of you to be scum and the other town, as well as both scum, so I am at a loss right now. I feel that my earlier suspicions of you have waned to a certain degree, but I feel your lover partner to still be suspicious.
I was annoyed when she claimed so early, escpecially when it was just after my posting a defense rather than after an attack or something, but there's nothing I can do about that. But her reasoning is real - I was in said game when she was cop. She just claimed it out of nowhere day 1. I was scum, there were no doctors. Cop dead N1 nice and easy...
Wrong. Scum might not kill us tonight (assuming we are both town) - We are lovers. It's not all that powerful a role. They might try to kill a cop or doc or some such role. The only thing they gain from us is a double kill. We also might be kept alive if they think we are a legitimate lynch target.But whatever happens, we aren't lynching claimed lovers on Day 1. More likely we'll find out on Day 2 whether they're telling the truth one way or they other.
STD - I didn't like his silly FOSing of 10 players, but overall I quite liked his entry.
I'm glad another person see's my side of itAfter much deliberation, I have determined that your role screws us over pretty much equally whether we lynch you now or whether you prevent us from being able to sucessfully lynch the scum later on in the game (Thanks, mod). Why Xtoxm would be advocating your lynch over scumhunting is beyond me. However, I am not opposed to thinking about pulling the trigger if we're caught with our pants down and nowhere close to a lynch, and neither should you.
That is WAY cool!I am seriously pretending everything you say is in the voice of Hitsugaia. However, it's been a long time since I've seen Bleach, so I have no idea if that's his name or not, or even how to spell it. It's also hard, because I watched in Japanese, and your posts are in English.
That is his name, english spelling of it is a little different.
You deserve to be immune from my vote for today or something just for that comment
*Sigh*Xtoxm is suspicious for suggesting to lynch LlamaFluff on page 3ish or whatever as opposed to later, though. While I find his ideas to be correct, his timing is suspect.
Again.
The point is, that his presence moves the day we reach lylo forward by an entire day. So there is absolutley nothing lost in lynching him, and a very high potential gain (scum day one), and I found his claiming the role suspicious, because a voteless shouldn't want to get his role out there, however a scum with that role, or even that fakeclaim, WOULD want to.
No, I disagree. I think that IG has been consistent is posting his suspicions and he's looking very town to me atm. I can probably agree with you on RF.I can definately see this action as eager to be helpful without being helpful. Both IG and RF are players that I have not seen go out of their way to hunt scum, or even for that matter, post much in the way of new content.
What is the point of keeping your eye here post-claim?Anyone I did mention I've got my eye on at least (thinktank, kmd) to flat out suspicion (RF, IG, reborn, and BG/Xtoxm pre-claim).
I don't like this at all. Gobo looked very townie to me, and Reborn is also looking good. Although on the whole he looks good, there's a couple things about STD i'm not liking.I'm going to Unvote, Vote Reborn for now. I have my reservations about RF and IG, and I'm still not too keen on the lovers claim (as in, I believe it, but I don't think they're in the clear).
UGGH. Please don't do this. I can't follow it at all when people respond by writing inside the quote they've quoted.My answers are in bold. There doesn't seem to be a case here, just an attack on my suspicions of LF followed by a vote on me. I'm looking at you as scum partners now FoS StD
I can't help but find it scummy when people try to use this as an excuse. This has come up in another game of mine. Why must people say this...And yeah, you're right, I'm not a very good scumhunter.
Lol, I do this all the time. I think i'm in love with you.But I'd like to point out that not only am I fallible, but I also did most of my read from 2:00 am to 5:00 am in the morning, and may not have been fully awake.
This whole scum-tell argument you have is a bit confusing. Is a scumtell not, by defintion, something someone does that makes you think they are scum? In the game you are playing. Not just anywhere on the site, done anywhere. Scumtells aren't constant.Doesn't mean you should policy lynch players who give scum tells.
Lol, nice responseI'm sure a scum would speculate who they're going to kill early in-game IN THE GAME THREAD.
Screw that idea.Right. my stuff is in bold again.
He never said he was power role fishing. Why are you putting wrods in his mouth?By the way, you still haven't really answered about why you were doing so much power role speculation, IG. How does that help anybody?
Although it can be seen that way, I do not feel that it was intentional.
I can vouch for this.I'm pretty sure farsidemod is being ruthless about prodding and replacing players. I don't think lurking is an issue in this game. If you disagree, who do you think is guilty of it?
But about your second point - You cannot deny that some are being less active than others - Both in post frequency and content.
I think it's ok, i've done it before. Sometimes if there's something you can't think of a good response too, or without one that's liekly to make you look scummy, it can be easier to hope it just goes away.As for the o_O, I don't think that you should be ignoring things and hoping they'd blow over.
Main reason I think is because it can prove you later when you claim, it shows atleast that you've had that claim from the start.What is the advantage of breadcrumbing in a theme game, where scum often have safeclaims anyway? Sorry, this is just a strategic question from a newbie.
Although it's also fun to try and find a good way of breadcrumbing without giving your role away straight off!
I think you've been a lot more active than most.this game hasnt been getting enough of my attention, I will should have a larger post up later today
One step ahead!On to bigger things - the lovers should find out if its a delayed suicide or not. I have seen instant suicide games and ones where its delayed by either a day or night (ie BG killed N1 xtoxm suicides end of D2). Either way both lovers should be kept off the chopping blocks today.
I have knowledge. At all: Should I share it now? I think it might be better to keep it to myself, so as to prevent scum finding out.
[Skipped a bit for not having much to say about it]
We don't need an extension, lightweights...
IG - I hear you about TT. His is laying low a bit, but really i'm finding him looking pretty town atm. There's really not anything he's said that i've disliked. I've also played with him once before (well, sort of), and he was much of a talker, and he was town. So I don't see lurking as a scumtell for him.
Ok, so the new list I promised.
Who i'm happy lynching today:
LF (I doubt you're ever going to lose this spot.. )
EK
KMD
Possibles:
RF
STD
So yeh, i'm thinking the other's are town at this time. Although I think Reborn has dropped a bit. But still, I liked Gobo a lot.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Apart from the fact that's it's completely irrelevent as the maximum extension has already been granted, why not?
I disagree.
I do not think deadline extensions are always pro-town, and I don't often support them. Everyone is here right now, and I feel we could have gotten a decent lynch tongether by the 24th.
Therefore, were it still open, I would be against the dealdine extension.
If it had got close, like day before or something, and it wasn't happening, then i'd have requested. Or if a new replacement wanted extra time to catch up or something.
Anyway, I think it's time to push for the lynch I want, so...
Unvote Vote EKSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Wow. RF got that post up AND Farside mannaged to edit it all while I was typing that.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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What I think he's on about is you are arguing over a fairly trivial matter.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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He didn't say it wasn't.Why can't it be legitimate suspicion?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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NO!!!Is the strikethrough an indication that you feel BG is not town? I don't understand.
It's supposed to indicate that the scenario makes sense if you take out the alignment indication, it works for whatever her alignment is, and whatever mine is. That's what i'm saying.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I am not happy with any of the current vote leaders.
BG - Wtf?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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You aren't in the latest vote count, but could you place your vote before you go please?
STD - Will find where I gave reaosns for wanting EK lynched.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Promised STD this a few days ago, so i've gone to the effort to find it quickly -
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Had some more reasons when I voted Dalt in the first place I think, but the didn't relate to EK.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Oh, maybe I did.
Well, i'm just really getting the feel that she's scum.
Not liking the IG wagon, but looks like it ain't gonna change.
You may as well claim IG.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I didn't say a gut feeling. From what she's said, I feel that she is scum.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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No, he should claim ASAP. He is the chosen one. Although not my chosen one...Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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On a side note, I think it is about 72 hours to deadline.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Llama - If you are town, could you please stop using your "vote". It's just confusing. Could you instead use an FOS in place of your vote or something?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I've no reason to disbelieve him. I've been against this wagon from the start.
What's a BG do?
EK wagon for the win.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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