Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

[farside22]

Slight deadline extension given. You have till 08/29, 11:00am PST. That is 2 days from now. I may extend longer if I hear from hascow.

vote count:

reborn537 1 votes: (Save the Dragons)
thinktank 2 vote: (Inspector Godot, babygirl)

Elvis Knits 5 vote: (thinktank, RestFermata, Inspector Godot, GhostWriter, reborn537)

Kmd 1 vote: (Elvis_Knit)
No Lynch 1 vote: (LlamaFluff)

Not voting:

xtoxm
kloud1516

With 12 people it take 7 votes for lynch
Day 1 ends August 29th, 11:00am PST

[reborn537]

To be honest I think I could go either way. But the possible gain outways the risk.

[reborn537]

outweighs*

[Xtoxm]

You also never gave me a definate answer: EK is lynched - Is the flip town or scum?

I can't see the future, and I'm not scum so I can't know the answer. I hope she's scum.

*facepalm*

Lets try incentive.

Someone offers you $50 if you guess EKs alignment correctly, what do you think EKs alignment is?

Lol.

What's the point you're trying to make, Llama?

[reborn537]

He's trying to make me say that I think EK is town.

[Xtoxm]

Do you?

[LlamaFluff]

You also never gave me a definate answer: EK is lynched - Is the flip town or scum?

I can't see the future, and I'm not scum so I can't know the answer. I hope she's scum.

*facepalm*

Lets try incentive.

Someone offers you $50 if you guess EKs alignment correctly, what do you think EKs alignment is?

Lol.

What's the point you're trying to make, Llama?

It sounds like reborn has EK leaning town. Given that he still isnt saying yes or no. I am pretty sure its yes

[elvis_knits]

At the very least I think reborn considered me town when I first claimed. Otherwise, why would he have disliked the fact that I did it early (early in his estimation). He seems to think I did something wrong and harmful to the town by claiming then. He seemed to dislike the fact that now I would have to be lynched.

If he thought I was scum, he wouldn't feel that way.

[reborn537]

You also never gave me a definate answer: EK is lynched - Is the flip town or scum?

I can't see the future, and I'm not scum so I can't know the answer. I hope she's scum.

*facepalm*

Lets try incentive.

Someone offers you $50 if you guess EKs alignment correctly, what do you think EKs alignment is?

Lol.

What's the point you're trying to make, Llama?

It sounds like reborn has EK leaning town. Given that he still isnt saying yes or no. I am pretty sure its yes

I like how you ignore everything I say.

[reborn537]

At the very least I think reborn considered me town when I first claimed. Otherwise, why would he have disliked the fact that I did it early (early in his estimation). He seems to think I did something wrong and harmful to the town by claiming then. He seemed to dislike the fact that now I would have to be lynched.

If he thought I was scum, he wouldn't feel that way.

No, I didn't. I knew that several people thought you were scum, although they refused to tell me why. Considering the fact that more people think you are scum than there are likely to be scum in the game, a couple of them at least are genuine townies with genuine reasons on you. That's why I moved my vote to you. Also, I decided that whether or not LF was lying (I think not) today is not the day to worry about him.

[Kmd4390]

I see that xtoxm, GW, IG, RF are all voting for me. I think KMD means to vote for me from his comments. Technically L-3, but I consider it L-2. With the deadline and all, I figured I should claim ASAP if I am the highest vote leader. You disagree?

I wasn't going to vote you unless I had to in order to avoid a no lynch...

I think you should look at kmd tomorrow, as his latest attack on me was complete speculation, framing my actions in a scummy way that is very WIFOM.

attack?!?

I also think you should look at GW for piggy-backing onto STD's scum list and not seeming to have a mind of his own.

This is the point I was trying to make earlier.

Sorry, that's just the way it goes. I'd rather lynch a dodgy vanilla claim than risk drawing out another power role.

Why is it dodgy?

I understand if you have to lynch vanilla on principle. But I don't understand why it's dodgy.

I think all vanillas are Chris! Do you agree Reborn?

No, I don't, and I don't know why you'd think that.

I always assume that all vanillas have the same role. Maybe that's stupid. But that's what I thought.

I have never seen that in a themed game before...

unvote
vote no lynch

to make a point

Scum would get a free kill but all of the power roles would have a chance to act too and we don't risk lynching a townie. Obviously a no lynch can't catch scum though. Not sure what to think of the idea right now.

[Kmd4390]

Reborn, why are you avoiding llama's question.

I think I believe EK's claim but I don't like the suggestion that all vanilla are chris. It opens up a fake claim for scum to just say "you can't counterclaim, there are more than one of this character."

[LlamaFluff]

I am at the point where the only feaseable options I see are no lynch or a lurker lynch. I think no lynch is the best option though given that just about all of the popular suspects have been forced to claim.

I think EK is town, I think reborn is town. IG is probally town with a few nagging suspicions after his last post. I think one of the lovers is scum, but no one seems willing to go for that today. That leaves a lot of people I have been leaning pro-town or at worse 45/55 scum on, of which I really dont think any make for a great lynching candidate.

[reborn537]

Reborn, why are you avoiding llama's question.

I think I believe EK's claim but I don't like the suggestion that all vanilla are chris. It opens up a fake claim for scum to just say "you can't counterclaim, there are more than one of this character."

I'm not avoiding it, I've been very clear that I don't know EK's alignment.

[Kmd4390]

So you aren't leaning one way or the other?

[LlamaFluff]

Reborn, why are you avoiding llama's question.

I think I believe EK's claim but I don't like the suggestion that all vanilla are chris. It opens up a fake claim for scum to just say "you can't counterclaim, there are more than one of this character."

I'm not avoiding it, I've been very clear that I don't know EK's alignment.

Thats avoiding it. I have been saying "I think EK is town". You have been saying "I cant see the future". There is a distinct difference there, while I am committing to a stance, you keep avoiding commenting on what you percieve EKs alignment to be. "I hope he is scum", "I dont know", "Im not scum, how should I know" are not answers that work for this question.

[reborn537]

I am at the point where the only feaseable options I see are no lynch or a lurker lynch. I think no lynch is the best option though given that just about all of the popular suspects have been forced to claim.

I think EK is town, I think reborn is town. IG is probally town with a few nagging suspicions after his last post. I think one of the lovers is scum, but no one seems willing to go for that today. That leaves a lot of people I have been leaning pro-town or at worse 45/55 scum on, of which I really dont think any make for a great lynching candidate.

I don't like Xtoxm's recent behaviour. I'm convinced that one of the lovers is scum, as both of them have been extremely scummy.

A lurker lynch is also fine with me, as I think this is a game that really requires participation. The people who have contributed less have really gotten away with murder. But who is that? BG is being replaced, STD is VLA, so I don't advocate either of these as a lurker lynch (although if we lynch the lovers obviously we'll have to discuss it carefully first). Noone really stands out as lurking.

[Kmd4390]

So you aren't leaning one way or the other?

[reborn537]

There are certain things that we probably disagree over, which is why I'm not going to talk any further on the EK thing.

[Kmd4390]

So you won't push a lynch on some one who your vote is on close to a deadline?
And you won't even say whether you believe this person to be scum?

[reborn537]

I'm pretty convinced I have pushed it. I think EK is the right play because she is extremely scummy, giving us a good chance of lynching scum, and if she was telling the truth, then we only lose a vanilla townie. The chance of lynching scum outweighs the risk of losing a vanilla townie and this is why an EK lynch is preferable to a no lynch. The lynch of an unconfirmed is always preferable to a no lynch. To you guys, I should be a better lynch than a no lynch, and I think you need to realise that.

[LlamaFluff]

I would prefer lurker TT to an EK lynch. The two votes on him right now are from a claimed BG and what I would guess is the town part of a lover pair. I think EK is just getting lynched so we can lynch someone, who in this case just feels like town. Letting town get lynched is worse then no lynching. Lynching a lurker will accomplish a lynch, plus start another wagon that we can compare to the EK wagon. So far our only wagons have been unanimous for the most part, so regardless of EKs alignment, there wont be much to gain from looking at those vote.

TT, lovers or no lynch. Nothing else looks good to me today.

Just incase my vote will break ties though

unvote
vote ThinkTank

[Kmd4390]

So you

do

think that EK is scum?

[Xtoxm]

I really don't think TT is scum.

I do not advocate this wagon.

[Kmd4390]

Llama, I'm not sure that lynching lovers is the way to go today.
I am also hesitant to no lynch although it may have it's benefits.
TT could be a decent lynch but mostly just because we have so few options.