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Oh shits, the dice has it out for you! I'd have voted for the dice...they're obviously loaded and therefor scum.TheJiveMachine wrote:Figures.
Vote: TheJiveMachine
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You gotta admit, a wagon now is a bit...well...fast?RetroDucts wrote:
Is there something about Khelvaster having 3 votes on him that worries you?TheJiveMachine wrote:
These are my thoughts on RetroDucts and shakaDERP BANDWAGON
DERP DERP DERPPokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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True, true. It's just that wagons skurr me. When they're all, you know, fast and stuff.RetroDucts wrote:Mizzy, the sooner we're out of the random stage, the better, imo. Khelvaster's late entrance seemed a good enough place to start. And like Trebis said, with 7 to lynch, 3's not too much of a concern.
Jive, I'm actually curious about how shaka's vote, which was apparently 'for shits and giggles', came across to you as bandwagoning.
As for how many mafia are in here, it's usually 25%, and it's not scummy to ask because townies kinda need to keep in mind how many scum need to die for a win and to keep track of how many are around in general.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Ditto, please...it totally flew by me...I didn't notice such a thing.yeahthatguy224 wrote:On a side note, Khel, care to explain your reasoning behind the role fishing vote, since no one else noticed it.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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About as much as a random vote on someone who doesn't give a damnGlork wrote:Does a nonvote seem to be doing much right now?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I just meant that it felt like random vote phase was coming to an end.Trebis wrote:
Subtle attempt at looking more pro-town? No way to prove it one way or the other, but I'm just throwing that out there.Mizzy wrote:Unvote since random votes don't seem to be doing much now.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Honestly, Shaka saying that he vote was for "shits and giggles" comes off as being kind of accurate. "For shits and giggles" can mean for entertainment or to watch reactions, or both. In this case, I am sure Shaka just wanted to see what would happen, which is a form of pressure vote.RetroDucts wrote:
If I'm reading this correctly, you believe that Shaka's intention was to get a role claim out of you (on page 2) and this is what you've based your vote on. I think that's a bit of a reach.Khelvaster wrote:The fact that his vote wans't actually a pressure vote doesn't change his intentions.
Pressure votes can be cast for a variety of reasons; To incite activity, to gauge reactions, to gain a role claim, to entertain, to cause mischief.
I don't think that on page 2, a pressure vote can be construed as anything as for pure shits and giggles, because honestly, what good do any of the other uses do you when they don't apply yet?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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EBWOP because I can't type for crap over VNC, apparently:Mizzy wrote:Honestly, Shaka saying that he vote was for "shits and giggles" comes off as being kind of accurate. "For shits and giggles" can mean for entertainment or to watch reactions, or both. In this case, I am sure Shaka just wanted to see what would happen, which is a form of pressure vote.
Pressure votes can be cast for a variety of reasons; To incite activity, to gauge reactions, to gain a role claim, to entertain, to cause mischief.
I don't think that on page 2, a pressure vote can be construed as anything as for pure shits and giggles, because honestly, what good do any of the other uses do you when they don't apply yet?
Honestly, Shaka saying thathehis vote was for "shits and giggles" comes off as being kind of accurate.
I don't think that on page 2, a pressure vote can be construed as anythingasbut for pure shits and giggles, because honestly, what good do any of the other uses do you when they don't apply yet?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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No problem :3Khelvaster wrote:Bah, I get y'all's point. I misinterpreted what a "pressure vote" was.
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I think it's an acute case of sarcasm.Trebis wrote:
Maybe I'm not understanding something, but I don't see why that's necessary at all.Glork wrote:Unvote, Vote: Trebis
You should claim. Immediately.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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He was under the assumption that pressure votes are only used to get role claims...or so he says.shaka!! wrote:
For his understanding of what a pressure vote was his reactions seems reasonable.Khelvaster wrote:
If someone were to push for a claim straight out of random voting, you wouldn't think it was a reach to vote for him? I thought he was pushing for me to claim, so I voted him posthaste thinking he was misplaying scum this game. Given what I thought at the time, I don't think it was a reach to vote him.RetroDucts wrote:
The misinterpretation doesn't change the fact that it was a reach. Unless it wasn't a reach. Do you think it wasn't?Khelvaster wrote:Bah, I get y'all's point. I misinterpreted what a "pressure vote" was.
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Why exactly did you unvote, OGMY?
I was more interested in how everyone else would react towards the vote rather than Khel, how ever I didn't get to see much.
How ever I did find it odd how everyone seemed to question why Khel had assumed I was role fishing, people use pressure a lot when trying to get someone to claim, I think it would be highly likely that one or two scum are hiding with the townies how had questioned the vote.
This may be of use later on in the game.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Honestly, I'm not sure...not enough evidence. I'm inclined to believe him because I lack evidence that proves he lied. I'm waiting to see what happens later :3Glork wrote:I fail to see what he would have gained by making up that opinion.
Do you think he may have been lying about being under said assumption, Mizzy? Why or why not?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I was asked, so, I thought about it and answered. Plus, did you notice the part where I was all:RetroDucts wrote:Mizzy, you seem to be suggesting what the motivations behind our actions are quite a bit. Don't you think it would be more interesting to wait and see what the player to whom a question was directed had to say themselves?
RetroDucts wrote:I'm waiting to see what happens later :3PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I give my opinions in an attempt to help the game progress...would you prefer I lurk and give no actual content to the game?RetroDucts wrote:I was talking about other times. Specifically, post 32 when I asked JiveMachine a question, post 64 where you provide a reason for shaka's vote and post 70 when you explain Glorks vote.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I think all of you make very good points...but I also think this whole thing was been completely blown out of proportion. I don't know about the rest of you, but I found the exchange a little hard to follow (my eyebrows hurt from raising them so much) and it feels like one big distraction, though not one done on purpose.
No one has really stood out as scum yet, and we should maybe try to put some focus on those who haven't said much?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm interested in why you feel it warranted a vote as opposed to just a FoS. Explain, please?Glork wrote:General gut?
I can't really say for sure. The post which I quoted, when I voted you to claim still feels off to me. I guess my train of thought goes something like this: "If you think the 'trying to get X to claim' conclusion by Khev was false to begin with, why would you go out of your way to point out that even if it were true, it's a sign that Shaka is probably not scum?"
Unnecessary and out-of-place defenses of other players ping my radar. I think it's worth looking into.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Ah, I see, it's more of a playstyle thing. That explains it Myself, once past the random vote stage, I try and only vote for people I would not regret lynching and use FoS to point out a target before I am 100% ready to see them die.Glork wrote:EBWOP: Also, I generally don't FoS unless I've got multiple suspicions which I want to voice and only one vote to place. FoSing people without voting usually seems really weak to me (though I will admit that there are times when it's appropraite). If you've got the vote, why not throw it around?
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Trebis has pinged my WTFdar but not so much my scumdar as of yet...however, I can see how he might have pinged some other radars. Most of his statements are unhelpful at best, but I don't have a terribly good read on him.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I agree, the timing on that was just horrid.Glork wrote:At the very least, Trebis, respond to RD and myself so that your replacement isn't stuck in the position of having significant suspicion levied on them to which they cannot respond.
Anything less is horribly rude and selfish.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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@Trebis:I don't need to look active...I AM active. There's not been a whole lot to point out, unless you count the annoying bickering and your similar attempts at looking "helpful" and "active." Just because I have nothing to point out in every post does not mean that your posts, which point out (in my opinion) useless BS are worth more than mine. At least I'm not being a distraction.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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What don't you like about Trebis? Anything specific?Sangy wrote:Sorry, but that really didn't make a lot of sense. Trebis' unvoting his random vote really doesn't warrant a vote, and it seems like you're just fishing for something to jump on there. I don't like Trebis very much, but that just jumped out at me as a case of "what are you thinking"?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Yes, but making mountains out of molehills just makes it easier for the scum to make us turn on each other...I don't think that JUST that opinion is worthy of a vote. Is that the only reason you're voting for him?TheJiveMachine wrote:Vote: yeahthatguy224
for saying that analysis is "blowing the smallest problems out of proportion".
All there is to go on Day 1 is the smallest tidbits of information.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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At least you're honest.TheJiveMachine wrote:That and lurking, which I didn't want to bring up since it would be wholly hypocritical of me.
I don't know...lurking is rarely a valid scumtell and can really only be used when the player is validly lurking as opposed to busy in RL.
I don't really agree with the vote and it makes me raise an eyebrow in your general direction, but I also don't really find the vote scummy persay...just unhelpful.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Welcome, Erg0! Cheers for replacing in.Erg0 wrote:Huzzah!
This is one occasion where I can be almost sure my play will improve on that of my predecessor.
Completely not game related: BTW, Joudas wants me to vote for you because, as he says, you're dirty, rotten scum. However, Joud's a pain in my ass, so I hit him and told him to GTFO. Thought you might want to know for shits 'n' giggles.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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You have to admit, the TIMING of his asking to be replaces was a little suspicious...though he hasn't posted on the site at all since the 8th.Glork wrote:Is the fact that he asked to replace out of the game some time ago a factor for or against him, or does it not weigh into your decision?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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The whole Khev/roleclaim thing was definitely blown out of proportion, and I honestly think we have too little participation to get many good leads at the moment. Glork was coming off as scummy at first but now I think that's just his scumhunting techniques.RetroDucts wrote:What do you think have been the molehills this game? What do you think are more sensible leads?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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What good is actively picking a fight with someone? No one has attacked me, so I have had no reason to defend, I answer questions when asked and try not to post drivel, and pay attention to the game. But no, I'm not going to cause a giant distraction and make an ass out of myself...thanks for the concern, though.shaka!! wrote:You seem to posting very actively, but only for the sake of appearing active. The vast majority of your posts have little content and are just two liners with a neutral opinion. Neither attacking or defending, it seems as if she is trying to buddy up to everyone but not picking a fight with anyone.
Perhaps, before you whine about someone who does post, you should consider being more active, yourself.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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We ALL have RL stuff going on...I, myself, am 6 months pregnant and sick as hell and require 12-14 hours a sleep a night on top of working full time and dealing with many other things. But I still read and post.shaka!! wrote:A dear friend of mine is leaving for America on Friday and another dear friend of mine has been kicked out his house and is staying at mine. I post when I can. How ever I was never complaining about you being active, I was complaining about you being active and doing nothingproductive.
As for posting anything productive, I think it's a matter of opinion on that one. You haven't exactly posted anything groundbreaking, yourself.
Last I knew, being an asshole and pulling unwarranted attention onto yourself was extremely anti-town and isn't actually scum hunting. What you're doing, aka, pulling attention onto us both, is probably going to cause a giant distraction (whew, history might repeat itself here, guys) and do more harm than good.shaka!! wrote:As for not actively picking a fight with someone, maybe I worded it wrong, but I believe the correct term is scum hunting.
People are making tiny posts back and forth like it's an IM client in here. I don't really see that as discussing issues...I see that as chatting quietly over a cup of tea. I will ask questions when I have them, and answer questions as they come. I'm not going to finger someone I don't suspect, and I'm not going to blow stuff out of proportion just to make a point of it.shaka!! wrote:People are discussing issues and actually talking, the new posts they make on the matter at hand are where we will get our future discussions from.
I mean, you do realize that a good portion of the game has been 1-2 liner posts that are not made from just me, right? Why don't you go bark up their trees?
Actually, I have made only ONE like that. #104.shaka!! wrote:There is no rule saying you can only focus on one thing at time, but for some reason everyone one of your posts seem to read to me "I don't think this case is going anywhere lets look elsewhere".
Trebis also bitched about my small posts, but I know that people bitch about large posts, content-less posts, helpful posts, meaningful posts, empty posts, funny posts, stupid posts...any post anyone makes, someone can and probably will bitch. So no, I haven't jumped into the pit of obvious bullshit each time a semantics war breaks out and I'm not going to.
I don't have solid opinions or any solid proof as of yet on who is scum and who isn't, and I'm absolutely not going to tarnish the game by tossing out half-thought-out ideas and suspicions when everyone else is already doing that and not really scumhunting.
So while I can see where you are coming from, I'm also going to - politely - ask you to sit down and rethink your entire beef with me. Sparse posts does not make someone scummy, and neither does refusing to wagon or "pick fights" for the hell of it. I'm not going to fight with you and if you have anyrealcase against me, then I suggest you spit it out or move on.
I would also like to mention that the forums have been down 90% of the time when I try and post, so all I can manage out most times is a couple sentences. I don't have the time after work to post books and refresh pages until the forums come back up to post them.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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By the way, I am SERIOUSLY ticked off at these forums...that reply in parts sat in the window waiting to be able to submitted for what, nearly 4 hours? GRR.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm on the defensive because a) I'm ticked off at the forums and b) Trebis already tried to whine at me about the same thing (pot, kettle; kettle, pot) and I'm a smidge annoyed that shaka is acting like this is ground-breaking new evidence. It's already been brought up and I already answered to it...I would have thought shaka would have been more original, at least.Erg0 wrote:I'm seeing a lot of similarities between Mizzy and Trebis so far. Their defences seem to be quite different, however - Mizzy is claiming playstyle and Trebis is claiming disinterest. That was a very strident response from Mizzy, probably over-defensive in my view since nobody seems to care much about my similar case on Trebis.
shaka!!, do you agree on the similarities between the two? How do you feel about Mizzy's response compared to Trebis'?
I still maintain that sparce or small posts is NOT inherently scummy...it depends on what is in the posts and what context things are held in.
Plus, I already got bitched at for putting in my two cents when the conversation wasn't being directed at me and while I still do that, I'm trying to not piss off too many people. I get yelled at a lot for being too active.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I was trying to contribute...and felt a little taken aback that it was questioned.RetroDucts wrote:That was me. And I didn't mean to bitch, let alone yell. It was a suggestions/probe as part of the game. I think scum may jump in to answer questions for their partners or even direct conversations. I wondered whether this is what you were doing.
Well, in the first game I was in here, the newbie game, I was a very, very prolific poster. I pissed off one of the ICs in there with my exuberant playing and posting and nearly got myself killed which was bas because I was townie. I'm trying to not make quite the same mistake and your comment about addressing everything reminded me of that first game and how I almost caused us to go into lylo.RetroDucts wrote:Why are you worrying about pissing people off? Is there something you would be doing that you're not?
Shaka's and Erg0's sudden mind-connection bugs the crap out of me. It's like a sudden, "Oooh, here's a target, let's get her!" If it's an attempt to see how I would respond, it was a scummy as hell way to do it. Especially since the points brought up were not new, and they were on Trebis for the same shit. Take this, for example:RetroDucts wrote:You say that there's not enough participation to find a good lead. This to me means that you think scum are lurking. Who, of the least active posters, would you think is most suspicious?
That smacks of, "This wagon didn't roll on Trebis, so let me express my consternation and attempt it somewhere else because, shuckydarns, I want it to work!"Erg0 wrote:That was a very strident response from Mizzy, probably over-defensive in my view since nobody seems to care much about my similar case on Trebis.
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Ugh, I hit post too soon.
I get some scum-pings on Tarhalindur for his 118 post...it seems very wordy without saying much except that he thinks not much is being said. He asks a lot of questions and I don't think he followed up very well.
I should also mention that while shaka feels suspicious, I think it's just me being over-reactive. So I can't judge him at the moment.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Yeah, I'm sorry...I was mid-moodswing and it kind of came out like RAWRPOST. That's why I haven't mentioned being pregnant before...it's usually easy to spot and control moodswings but one kind of slipped through. It's not really a good excuse for me.shaka!! wrote:If you had waited a little bit longer before posting there you would've found out that I in fact didn't warrant much suspicion on you nor Trebis, which is what I was going to say when I was going to type up my proper response to erg0.
Yeah, I try, but I can't get comfy right now so I get much less sleep than I want. Thanks for the congrads!shaka!! wrote:Oh, and if you are 6 months pregnant you should be resting more rather then playing this silly game. Mood swings are bad for all of us (: Congrads btw.
I've felt a little afraid to contribute much because I haven't wanted to get involved or cause a big hullabaloo like we had earlier on Khev. So, yes, I think that might be the case.shaka!! wrote:So to conclude I believe that both Trebis and Mizzy (and myself and most others) are just having trouble including themselves in the game rather than purposely posting all talk and no action.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I've felt a little afraid to contribute much because I haven't wanted to get involvedwithor cause a big hullabaloo like we had earlier on Khev. So, yes, I think that might be the case.
Cripes, I need sleep. *Waddles off*PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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It's a matter of opinion, I suppose. I feel I have added to the game, and I feel like there's not much of a game to add more to right now. We have too many quiet islands, as it were, and very little real participation. I also wonder, again, why you're bugging me about it and not really anyone else but Trebis.Erg0 wrote:Mizzy: This may have already been raised, but it was a single sentence in the middle of a long post by Trebis so you shouldn't assume that it's foremost in people's minds. I still feel its a valid point against both of you, as "information without analysis" is a very valid scumtell in my experience. It's not the length of your posts I have an issue with, it's the general lack of substance. I'm not exactly campaigning for your lynch here, so a proportionate response would serve you better.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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By the way, this bothers me. No, maybe it's not right in the front of everyone's minds, but as soon as I brought it up, it should have been. This game is about keeping past actions in mind for future reference and while yes, it was in the middle of a long post, I can expect that people would have read the entire thing and put the case he made into the back of their minds, at least, for later recall. Not to mention the ability to re-read.Erg0 wrote:Mizzy: This may have already been raised, but it was a single sentence in the middle of a long post by Trebis so you shouldn't assume that it's foremost in people's minds.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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What I meant, and how I feel, is that a case was attempted to be made without first re-reading what had already been brought up. If I were going to post out of the blue that I had re-read things and found x person's actions to be noteworthy, I would first make sure someone hadn't done that before and to use specific points.Erg0 wrote:I generally agree, but it's difficult to keep track of every single vague aspersion that's been cast in the course of the game. Once you raised it I was certainly aware of it, but you seem to be implying that shaka and I deliberately ignored Trebis' earlier comment and pretended we were talking about something new.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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QFT. In fact, I have yet to see a normal scenario where a no-lynch on day 1 IS a good thing, and I don't know about you all, but I feel that letting the mafia get a free kill when we still have so many players not contributing would be like saying, "Hey, we suck, pick us off now!"Erg0 wrote:Um, no. We shan't be doing that, a no-lynch on day 1 is almost never the correct play.
Agreed. Shall we move on?Erg0 wrote:I really feel like this is basically a playstyle argument - I can see it from your point of view but I just don't think it's a particularly big deal.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Agreed. I can only imagine a scum or newbie power role wanting to get to N1 so fast. Or maybe a newb in general, but he's NOT a newb...he's been enough games now that I can assume he's readGlork wrote:Suggesting No Lynch on Day One seems pretty shady.The Big Book of Shit Not To Do In Mafia. Or at least skimmed the cliff notes.
FoS: Joubert
For the record, I FoS when I am not convinced enough to vote quite yet, so please don't stab me.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Sure can! Keep in mind this is without having re-read.Glork wrote:Mizzy: Could you give me a quick summary -- without going back and reading -- of what your current thoughts are on the following players:
RetroDucts
Glork
yeahthatguy224
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Death's Door/Erg0
RetroDucts: He comes off as terse, to put it simply. Most of his posts come off as to-the-point, and a smidge on the aggressive side. I feel he posts when he feels he needs to.
Glork: Interesting ideas, also with a tendency to use post smaller, more compact and to-the-point messages. He seems to be someone who pokes very valid holes in shoddy defenses and enjoys it.
yeahthatguy224: I get fence-sitter vibes from him...and he hasn't contributed all that much. Possibly busy, he's a bit of a lurker, and I hope to see more from him soon. Needs replacing.
Sangy: Wishy-washy as of late...he posts some opinions earlier after saying he was sorry for being away that kind of had the feeling of, "Yeah, so, I kinda think this, and don't think that, and, yeah, stuff." Needs replacing.
Erg0: Erg0 comes off as being blunt but with a fair bit of logic behind his posts. I don't like some of his actions, but he's very willing to debate with others about them, and sticks to his guns. Death's Door I didn't get a very good read on.
Put in order from most suspicious to least (not including anyone else):
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Again, that list doesn't hold everyone, and the lurkers are at the bottom because I suck at reading lurkers.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Um, explanation please?Tarhalindur wrote:/prodded, and noted reason for absence in V/LA
Unvote, Vote: thejivemachinePokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Woah, hold the phone there. Firstly, that's blatant OMGUS and not a valid reason for a vote at this time. Glork is well-known for his "unparalleled behavior" and his playstyle isn't a scumtell.Joubert wrote:Vote: Glork, for unparalleled behavior...
FoS: Mizzy, for thinking there's only one way to play Mafia...
Oh wait, Mizzy is female... That explains all...
Secondly, you have shown a blatant lack of understanding about mafia in general, I think, and about what protocol is and is not accepted. Sexism notwithstanding.
Under what twisted, malformed logic do you actually think a No-Lynch is good in a mini normal on day 1 when we have no deadline? If the scum offed a lurker, what good would that do us? We'd have zero to go on in Day 2 and be minus one townie to boot.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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[sarcasm]Clearly, good sir, your behavior lines meet at least at one point somewhere. Therefor, you are scum. [/sarcasm]Glork wrote:Mind explaining what "unparalleled behavior" you are talking about, and how that makes you believe I am more likely to be scum?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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You know, I actually had a feeling that you'd say that. Smart bastard. And no, I was actually thinking one dimension, which I know is awfully shallow of me.Glork wrote:Are we talking in three dimensions?
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Funny != helping the town when you pull attention onto yourself like that. If you ARE town, then you did a very stupid and anti-town thing.Joubert wrote:Aaah, I'm glad I said those funky things, very funny posts ensued...
You sure got it in there for not intending it.Joubert wrote:Frankly, I didn't intend sexism against anyone, and I admit "unparalleled" wastaken at random in the dictionary.almost
Backpedaling. I wonder if Joub's unvote is ACTUALLY because he feels Glork has a role or if he wants a non-scummy-looking reason to pull his hand out of the fire?Joubert wrote:Unvote, mostly because Glork could be Jester.
Read Glork's wiki page. That, and think.Joubert wrote:By the way, Shaka, what does "pull a Glork on you" mean exactly...PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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In-effing-deed. Oh, and I forgot to vote him in my last post, so here goes:TheJiveMachine wrote:Jumpy nervous unvote with no reasoning blah blah blah you still never explained why you voted him in the first place yadda yadda yadda diversionary tactics yip yip yip
Vote: JoubertPokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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@Tarhalindur:Good answer, thanks much!
As for Joubert, he's not even remotely tried to defend himself and I am quite happy with my vote. Under normal circumstances, I cringe when someone is a -1L when I have had such little interaction with them...but he screams scum so loudly that my ears hurt.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I should also mention that if you suspect someone is a power role, or extraneous pro-town role of any kind, saying so where the scum can see it is really, really, really anti-town.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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If stirring YOUR shit is stirring a shitstorm, then yes, I suppose he did. But I don't think he stirred anyone else's shit. And how is asking for a claim when you're at -1L scummy? That's kinda part of a normal game strategy.Joubert wrote:After thinking about it, Glork, by his behavior, seemed to try to "stir the shitstorm" (citation from the JFK movie), which is usually not advantageous for the Town. Actually, it makes more sense after reading Glork's last posts where he asks for a claim. Looks scummy even.
I didn't, actually, I voted for you because any decent player who was playing as a pro-town would NEVER suggest a no-lynch for D1 in a mini normal with no special conditions or deadlines because they would know that a no-lynch comes with the following bad consequences:Joubert wrote:I wish Mizzy won't vote me forever for personal reasons, which is a possibility. Unfortunately, we'll have to take all her posts with a grain of salt for now...
1) You lose a townie whom the mafia can kill without worry of the kill being linked to anything.
2) We begin D2 with no more information than we started with because mafia aren't going to kill an active player if they don't have to.
3) We start D2 needing the same number of people for a lynch but we are down a townie, making it harder to lynch.
And those are just SOME of the bad consequences of a no-lynch on D1. As for assuming there are 3 mafia, well duh, mafia games tend to be 25% mafia in normal games.
Not to mention voting no-lynch is effectively not playing the game. The game is to hunt scum, not let scum win.
Let me direct your attention to this:Joubert wrote:Want to know why I suggested a No Lynch? Look at the numbers. If there's 12 players, let's assume there's 3 Mafia. So 3/12 chances we lynch Mafia, and 9/12 chances we lynch Town...
That is why my vote is on you.Wiki Entry for No-Lynch wrote:In many games, it is possible to end the daytime phase by a majority of players voting for "No Lynch". No one dies during the daytime phase, and night falls.
The appropriateness of this strategy has been much debated, but it generally comes down to two things: preserving favorable voting ratios (see Numbers, Part 1), or waiting for investigations. It becomes more strategically viable in the endgame, when an extra vote or investigation may make the difference between Lynch-or-Lose and having an extra chance.Conversely, it is frequently put forward early in the game as a strategy by newbie Scum, to try to divert the town from using their most powerful weapon.
Certain Game Moderators handle No Lynch differently: for instance, one variation says that someone voting for "No Lynch" "goes home" and may not post for the rest of the Day, unless they later receive Votes totaling half of what would be required to lynch them.
By the way, it is against forum rules to discuss on-going games:
You can read that at:Forum Rules wrote:Do not talk outside the game thread about an ongoing game except where allowed to do so by your role. Likewise, do not use bbcode to hide secret messages - this equates to discussion outside the thread.
If stirring YOUR shit is stirring a shitstorm, then yes, I suppose he did. But I don't think he stirred anyone else's shit. And how is asking for a claim when you're at -1L scummy? That's kinda part of a normal game strategy.
I didn't, actually, I voted for you because any decent player who was playing as a pro-town would NEVER suggest a no-lynch for D1 in a mini normal with no special conditions or deadlines because they would know that a no-lynch comes with the following bad consequences:
1) You lose a townie whom the mafia can kill without worry of the kill being linked to anything.
2) We begin D2 with no more information than we started with because mafia aren't going to kill an active player if they don't have to.
3) We start D2 needing the same number of people for a lynch but we are down a townie, making it harder to lynch.
And those are just SOME of the bad consequences of a no-lynch on D1. As for assuming there are 3 mafia, well duh, mafia games tend to be 25% mafia in normal games.
Not to mention voting no-lynch is effectively not playing the game. The game is to hunt scum, not let scum win.
Let me direct your attention to this:
That is why my vote is on you.
By the way, it is against forum rules to discuss on-going games:
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I know why you suggested it, I just don't think it would ever have worked the way you think it would have.Joubert wrote:Okay, no No Lynch. I suggested this initially because I felt the prior discussions were more like people throwing empty suspicions to each other, OMGing and such, that seemed to go nowhere.
But Glork wasn't ever in danger of being lynched so I don't see how you could see that as him being the jester...if he is a jester, he's a crappy one.Joubert wrote:But then, after rethinking, I thought it could be jesterish behavior, so Iretired my vote without even reading the new posts, because obviously the Jester wants to be lynched...
Also, see the bolded part above? What the hell is that about?
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I'm going to keep my vote on him for the moment but I do want to hear more from him that's notsexist bullshitpsychobabble.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Cripes, you managed a WHOLE re-read? You poor, poor bastard. I tried, got most of the way through, and my lack of attention span due to circumstances outside my control made me scream and run off.shaka!! wrote:Oh my God that was the most boring reread I've ever done.
The worst thing is that I can't pick anything up on anyone in this game so far because every quarrel that has been held between people has ended with a friendly hand shake and moving the conversation onto something completely irrelevant.
My word I just realized how scummy of a tactic that would be. I'll reread again and investigate scum distancing and buddying up possibilities when my brain has reformed from its melted state due to the reread I just took.
Just keep in mind that just because person A and person B argue and then make up all nicey-sweety doesn't mean it's a scumtell. Either of them, or both, could be town OR scum. That's why my brain hurts.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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What the hell is it with crappy replacement entrances in here?
@killa seven:You do know that blatant OMGUS votes with no logic or reasons, however lame, behind them are generally considered to be bullshit scummy moves, yes?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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He was voted for because of his nooby entrance, I think. Right, wrong? If so, that's not no-reason. And OMGUS votes don't help outside of the random vote stage.Khelvaster wrote:Killa is a noob. He was voted for no reason. For no-reason votes, taken seriously, an OMGUS is a totally appropriate answer.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Holy shitz, man, the replacement list alone on there is enough to make me cry.shaka!! wrote:
You should take a quick look at the first page of the cursed Mini #499.Mizzy wrote:What the hell is it with crappy replacement entrances in here?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm also of the opinion that outting any role, even a Jester, is not a good thing. If he were about to be lynched, and you suspected him as being a Jester, sure, say so then, but don't say it when he's no where even remotely close to being lynched with zero evidence against him anyway.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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