Mini 545 - The Final Stand Mafia - Dramatic Finish!

Joubert · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:56 pm

Vote: Glork

, for unparalleled behavior...

FoS: Mizzy

, for thinking there's only one way to play Mafia...

Oh wait, Mizzy is female... That explains all...

shaka!! · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:48 pm

I'm pretty tempted to pull a Glork on you right now, Joubert.

TheJiveMachine · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:01 am

Joubert wrote:
Vote: Glork
, for unparalleled behavior...

FoS: Mizzy
, for thinking there's only one way to play Mafia...

Oh wait, Mizzy is female... That explains all...

I don't follow or support your reach of BS logic and sexism, and also you promoted a no lynch. And also, your grammar is sub-par.

HoS: Joubert

Mizzy · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:01 am

Joubert wrote:
Vote: Glork
, for unparalleled behavior...

FoS: Mizzy
, for thinking there's only one way to play Mafia...

Oh wait, Mizzy is female... That explains all...

Woah, hold the phone there. Firstly, that's blatant OMGUS and not a valid reason for a vote at this time. Glork is well-known for his "unparalleled behavior" and his playstyle isn't a scumtell.

Secondly, you have shown a blatant lack of understanding about mafia in general, I think, and about what protocol is and is not accepted. Sexism notwithstanding.

Under what twisted, malformed logic do you actually think a No-Lynch is good in a mini normal on day 1 when we have no deadline? If the scum offed a lurker, what good would that do us? We'd have zero to go on in Day 2 and be minus one townie to boot.

Glork · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:00 am

Joubert wrote:
Vote: Glork
, for unparalleled behavior...

FoS: Mizzy
, for thinking there's only one way to play Mafia...

Oh wait, Mizzy is female... That explains all...

OMGIS!

Mind explaining what "unparalleled behavior" you are talking about, and how that makes you believe I am more likely to be scum?

Mizzy · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:16 am

Glork wrote:Mind explaining what "unparalleled behavior" you are talking about, and how that makes you believe I am more likely to be scum?

[sarcasm]Clearly, good sir, your behavior lines meet at least at one point somewhere. Therefor, you are scum. [/sarcasm]

Glork · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:23 am

Mizzy wrote:
Glork wrote:Mind explaining what "unparalleled behavior" you are talking about, and how that makes you believe I am more likely to be scum?
[sarcasm]Clearly, good sir, your behavior lines meet at least at one point somewhere. Therefor, you are scum. [/sarcasm]

Are we talking in three dimensions?

I could be skew.

Mizzy · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:29 am

Glork wrote:Are we talking in three dimensions?

I could be skew.

You know, I actually had a feeling that you'd say that. Smart bastard. And no, I was actually thinking one dimension, which I know is awfully shallow of me.

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Mizzy · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:30 am

OMG it ate my whitespace. LAME.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:46 am

Been trying to get in here and read enough of this thread to comment but the site keeps timing out. I've run out of time right now because posting in another game took approximately three times as long as it should have with all the CPU quota overload stuff, but hopefully MafiaScum will be running better tonight and I'll be able to actually read this thread.

Joubert · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:24 am

Aaah, I'm glad I said those funky things, very funny posts ensued...

Frankly, I didn't intend sexism against anyone, and I admit "unparalleled" was

almost

taken at random in the dictionary.

Unvote

, mostly because Glork could be Jester. By the way, Shaka, what does "pull a Glork on you" mean exactly...

Mizzy · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:04 am

Joubert wrote:Aaah, I'm glad I said those funky things, very funny posts ensued...

Funny != helping the town when you pull attention onto yourself like that. If you ARE town, then you did a very stupid and anti-town thing.

Joubert wrote:Frankly, I didn't intend sexism against anyone, and I admit "unparalleled" was
almost
taken at random in the dictionary.

You sure got it in there for not intending it.

Joubert wrote:
Unvote
, mostly because Glork could be Jester.

Backpedaling. I wonder if Joub's unvote is ACTUALLY because he feels Glork has a role or if he wants a non-scummy-looking reason to pull his hand out of the fire?

Joubert wrote:By the way, Shaka, what does "pull a Glork on you" mean exactly...

Read Glork's wiki page. That, and think.

TheJiveMachine · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:31 am

Joubert wrote:
Unvote
, mostly because Glork could be Jester. By the way, Shaka, what does "pull a Glork on you" mean exactly...

Jumpy nervous unvote with no reasoning blah blah blah you still never explained why you voted him in the first place yadda yadda yadda diversionary tactics yip yip yip

Mizzy · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:25 am

TheJiveMachine wrote:Jumpy nervous unvote with no reasoning blah blah blah you still never explained why you voted him in the first place yadda yadda yadda diversionary tactics yip yip yip

In-effing-deed. Oh, and I forgot to vote him in my last post, so here goes:

Vote: Joubert

Joubert · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:09 am

Great, lynch me and it'll be good riddance...

shaka!! · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:30 am

Joubert wrote:Great, lynch me and it'll be good riddance...

Waaaay too over defensive. It's one vote out of 7, hardly an appeal to lynch.

Erg0 · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:04 am

Joubert wrote:
Unvote
, mostly because Glork could be Jester.

With the way that some people in this game are playing, how on earth did you come to the conclusion that Glork, of all people, is likely to be a jester?

Khelvaster · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:57 am

Joubert wrote:Aaah, I'm glad I said those funky things, very funny posts ensued...

Frankly, I didn't intend sexism against anyone, and I admit "unparalleled" was
almost
taken at random in the dictionary.

Unvote
, mostly because Glork could be Jester. By the way, Shaka, what does "pull a Glork on you" mean exactly...

First you vote Glork for "unparalleled behavior," and then you unvote him because "he could be the jester."

This is the scummiest thing I have seen since Kaleidoscope claimed Godfather.

Vote: Joubert

Tarhalindur · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:13 pm

Mizzy wrote:
Tarhalindur wrote:/prodded, and noted reason for absence in V/LA

Unvote, Vote: thejivemachine
Um, explanation please?

A combination of reaction-testing and a few scummy posts:

TheJiveMachine wrote:
DERP BANDWAGON

DERP DERP DERP
These are my thoughts on RetroDucts and shaka

This post gave me the impression that TJC might be scum trying to maintain the appearance of contributing without actually doing so. Note the lack of actual scumhunting.

TheJiveMachine wrote:I don't see the role fishing.

But shaka, first you say shits and giggles, now it was a pressure vote? What reason do you have to pressure Khel, anyways? By the time of your vote he had shown up and explained his absence.

A post consisting of a question and a throw-away comment about interpretation will usually ping my scumdar.

TheJiveMachine wrote:Well, I'll at least get my vote off myself.
Unvote

No one seems to be sticking out. Maybe Khel.

Glork wrote:
Do you think he may have been lying about being under said assumption, Mizzy? Why or why not?
Glork, did you ask this question because you are doubtful of Khelvaster's story?

I, personally, think that that would be a rather absurd thing to make up, but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.

Again, jive seems to have no strong opinions and asks other people for their opinions (while showing very little of his own thoughts).

The reason why I withheld my reasoning was to see if anyone jumped out to attack in response to my vote (especially to see if somebody attacked me for my vote, something that I have seen scum do in the past). I got the results I wanted - nobody seemed to care about my unexplained vote except for Mizzy, who simply asked for explanation, which, given my past experience, suggests that Jive is town.

Besides, Joubert brought up the possibility of a Jester as a justification for unvoting, something that I find INCREDIBLY scummy (constantly speculating about a possible Jester is amazingly pro-scum, since it leads to Jester WIFOM and town paralysis whenever a large bandwagon develops) to the point of being voteworthy.

Unvote, Vote: Joubert

Glork · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:25 pm

I should point out that Joubert is at Lynch-1 right now (Retro, Erg0, Glork, Mizzy, Khel Tarl).

He should claim right about now.

Mizzy · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:38 pm

@Tarhalindur:

Good answer, thanks much!

As for Joubert, he's not even remotely tried to defend himself and I am quite happy with my vote. Under normal circumstances, I cringe when someone is a -1L when I have had such little interaction with them...but he screams scum so loudly that my ears hurt.

Mizzy · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:43 pm

I should also mention that if you suspect someone is a power role, or extraneous pro-town role of any kind, saying so where the scum can see it is really, really, really anti-town.

Tarhalindur · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:01 pm

Unvote

to prevent quickhammering

Claim would be good.

Joubert · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:52 pm

After thinking about it, Glork, by his behavior, seemed to try to "stir the shitstorm" (citation from the JFK movie), which is usually not advantageous for the Town. Actually, it makes more sense after reading Glork's last posts where he asks for a claim. Looks scummy even. And Shaka's post 215 is almost ironic because a very few posts after his, I am suddenly at L-1. Very impressive, actually...

I wish Mizzy won't vote me forever for personal reasons, which is a possibility. Unfortunately, we'll have to take all her posts with a grain of salt for now...

Want to know why I suggested a No Lynch? Look at the numbers. If there's 12 players, let's assume there's 3 Mafia. So 3/12 chances we lynch Mafia, and 9/12 chances we lynch Town...

Question to TheJiveMachine: is English your native language? If yes, can you speak another one?

Glork · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:43 pm

Joubert wrote:After thinking about it, Glork, by his behavior, seemed to try to "stir the shitstorm" (citation from the JFK movie), which is usually not advantageous for the Town. Actually, it makes more sense after reading Glork's last posts where he asks for a claim. Looks scummy even. And Shaka's post 215 is almost ironic because a very few posts after his, I am suddenly at L-1. Very impressive, actually...

I didn't ask for a claim until you were already at L-1. Your timeline is completely inaccurate here. Tar has unvoted, but he can put you back at L-1, and he has also asked you to claim. Mizzy has expressed no desire to take her vote off of you (and coming from someone of her playstyle, that's pretty danged significant). Based on the fact that three other people are

ALSO

voting you, I would wager to guess that they would like to hear a claim, too.

Also, how did my behavior attempt to "stir the shitstorm" as you so eloquently put it? I unvoted when you were at three votes, and then I put that vote back on you to put you back at three. Your reaction and your baseless accusations of my "unparalleled behavior" (which you then rescinded but have now taken back up, apparently) are what caused the subsequent wagon. If there are scum on your wagon, I expect them to be somewhere among Tar/Khel, with possibly Erg0 as an early joiner.

Joubert wrote:Want to know why I suggested a No Lynch? Look at the numbers. If there's 12 players, let's assume there's 3 Mafia. So 3/12 chances we lynch Mafia, and 9/12 chances we lynch Town...

Then why don't we No-Lynch until we're in LyLo? By the very nature of the game, we're more likely to hit town if we lynch blindly, in a complete vacuum. However, there have been 9 pages chock full of discussion, and lynches give us

more

information with which to work on future days.

You're obviously not a raw newbie here, with 4+ months under your belt. Have you ever suggested No-Lynch on D1 before? Have you seen somebody else suggest it? If so, what were the reactions to such a suggestion, and what (if anything) did you learn from the situation?

I do feel somewhat comforted that Joubert at least explained why he thought NL would be a good idea, especially considering that is the typical response that players tend to give. I am still baffled how he could accuse my behavior of being outlandish, take that back and call me a jester, then come back and say I was tryiing to drum up something against him.