Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm also pretty sure you think I'm town but won't back down due to neighbour meta.

But you don't have to worry about neighbour meta. Because I'm town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What do you think I don't believe?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

A potential third wagon.

Interesting developments.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Say what you want, but scumhunting (especially when I do it) is unreliable. No amount of wishes and promises is going to make it go away.

OK, so just to confirm.

You're scum-reading me, but doing absolutely nothing to push my lynch. Correct?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No. In fact, I might unvote in a second.

That sounds like an

excellent

idea.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why are you reading BBT as town?
Are you suspicious that there are two wagons right now?

Yes, you're wagon makes me somewhat suspicious of BBT but I still think he's a similar case to you. Over-excited town. His vote-hopping is not a sufficient reason for me to vote him at all. However, I think BBT has been quite anti-town for the last ten pages or so, especially his conversation with Wake. I also don't like his references to his playstyle while he has that signature. I still feel this is more likely town v town than anything else but I will hammer if neccessary. I don't see any other wagons forming and we're approaching the deadline.

Two people have just expressed an interest in forming a wagon or removing themselves from one of the current wagons.

What didn't you like about my conversation with Wake?

Meta and pla-ystyle are different things.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You weren't very forthcoming with his questions.

Do you think it could be because every one of the questions he asked had already been answered earlier in the game?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It is useless to think along those lines before a flip, but probably you and greencrayons.

Who's the scum on my wagon?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Perhaps the Csareo wagon was a real wagon and not some scum tactic. If that was the case, I would expect the light to be shined on myself, Csareo and Flubber. I am Ok with that.

Why did you exclude TTH, Boon and Wake from this list?

I still think BBT is scum. I think the BBT flip will give us a chance to look at some votes and associations. I think the BBT flip either way gives us the most information to go upon. Can somebody make the same case for the Csaero flip?

I'd rather lynch scum than lynch for information.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Have either of those 3 pushed as hard on you as myself, Csareo or Flubber?

I wouldn't say you or Flubber, particularly Flubber, have pushed particularly hard for my lynch.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Have either of those 3 pushed as hard on you as myself, Csareo or Flubber?

I wouldn't say you or Flubber, particularly Flubber, have pushed particularly hard for my lynch.

I can't speak for Flubber, but I'm defiantly pushing for your lynch. I'm pretty sure I've been on your wagon the longest.

TTH has been on the longest and has done the least to push my lynch.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Sounds good.

You're giving yourself way too much credit for my wagon.

The only people I would say that are pushing my lynch would be Csareo and maybe Boon. The rest have voted me and sat back to see what happens.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo, Boon: If both of you think scum are driving your wagon, who are they? Who's scum on the other person's wagon?

It is useless to think along those lines before a flip, but probably you and greencrayons.

This looks like you're scum-reading massive

Now use your head, and stop aligning yourself with scum on a counter-wagon.

But this looks like you're town-reading him.

Which is it?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nothing I said in the last quote was allegiance indicative.
I'm not scum reading Massive until I see what you flip.
How many times do I need to repeat myself.

Yeah, it was. You wouldn't tell someone you was scum-reading to 'use their head and stop aligning themselves with scum' because it doesn't make sense.

You would say that to someone you were town-reading though.

I think you're town-reading massive in an attempt to appease him and make him switch wagons.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I would if that would work. There is nothing to scum read him for besides lurking and disagreeing with me.

You can't scum-read someone for disagreeing with you.

Also, why aren't you scum-reading Doogal, Flubber and TTH for lurking as well?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But you just said in 1195 that if there's scum on your wagon it's massive and GC.

You're contradicting yourself a lot here.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I just need to make it clear for everyone else because you really seem to be struggling with this.

Csareo, Boon: If both of you think scum are driving your wagon, who are they? Who's scum on the other person's wagon?

It is useless to think along those lines before a flip, but probably you and greencrayons.

This is you scum-reading massive. You think massive and GC are the scum driving your wagon.

Now use your head, and stop aligning yourself with scum on a counter-wagon.

This is you speaking to massive as if you town-read him. Appeasement and manipulation at it's finest.

No, I'm really not. Massive and GC are likely scum if you also flip scum.
I haven't seen a flip, so I'm not going to accuse them of anything.
If you flip town, then I'm sure Boon + TTH will come under fire.

WHEN I flip town (remember when you slipped and said that? Good times, good times). I would hope that

you

would come under fire given you're the primary person pushing my lynch.

Out of interest, why would you expect TTH to come under fire?

And why are you repeating something massive and GC's already brought up. \

I'm pretty sure I'm the first person to pick up on the inconsistency in your massive read.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also it wasn't 1195, it was 1248.

My apologies.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yep.

I hope you get lynched.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Oops, we're not finished.

Why would you expect TTH to come under fire for my lynch?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

you guys are incorrigible

You don't agree with my recent posts?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm curious to see his answer about the TTH thing but I don't really see a point being made for me to agree with.

The inconsistency in his massive read.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT - those posts you're quoting are qualified with "if ___ happens," how is that indicative of inconsistency with his current reads?

He was asked if scum were pushing his wagon, who would they be.

He replied saying it was useless to think along those lines, but probably massive and GC.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If massive was a null-read, then he couldn't be scum pushing his wagon could he?

Not to mention he then speaks to massive as if he is town-reading him straight after.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If DP says it's OK, I'll do it.

I've already told you it doesn't say anything though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:13 am
Hi guys, during night and pre game, you may talk here!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I am for sure not posting thread title unless Mod confirms I can.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Kindly quote what the mod said in your PT.

I just did.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If Mod says I can post thread title, I will.

It's as simple as that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wow, I can't say any more on it than I already have.

I await Mod's decision.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wake, explain your vote on me please.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I mean, from what I can see, you voted me because I wasn't answering your questions in the manner in which you wanted.

Even though pretty much all your questions had been asked (and answered) previously.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The excessive and detailed posts containing the same nonsense are 100% proof of that.

This is all you do to defend yourself. You simply shut down the discussion, you have no interest in engaging or trying to point out why a person may be wrong.

Just simply 'you're talking nonsense' or 'I didn't say that'. Like, you flat out deny saying things that are quotable. It's ludicrous.

So scummy.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But you do defend yourself.

You just do it in the scummiest way possible.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo, unvote me so FG can read in peace.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It would be the first pro-town thing you have done in 54 pages.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wow.

Scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not screen-shotting.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wake, I asked you to explain why you were voting me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not screen-shotting when it could be a rule-break.

You guys have been ridiculous over this whole Neighbourhood PT and you're going to realize it at the end of the game. (Not that you care if you're scum, as long as I get lynched, right?)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

They think we could be scum who faked a Neighbour thread.

Coz Neighbours 'don't get pre-game chat'

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because they don't believe neighbours get pre-game chat.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wake's avoidance of explaining his vote is worrying.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

UNVOTE:

Since no one else seems to want to oblige, I will. I want to hear FakeGod out.

What is the title of the PT called? You are the worst person to unvote btw.

You keep saying you don't care about the neighbourhood...yet you keep asking questions as if to try and disprove it...

[BlueBloodedToffee]

FG, trust me when I say that anything you say will have been said before by somebody else.

They simply don't listen.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But now she's unvoting, so is it even clear if she wanted to lynch BBT, or start an early tunnel of her buddy (

just asking, because I believe the neighborhood claim

)

I can't quite believe you have the audacity to type the bolded words. Like, wow.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're not anti-town.

You're flat out scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No. In fact, I might unvote in a second.

Don't. Please fucking don't.
I'm sure you can acknowledge that BBT's flip is indicative to Greencrayon's allegiance.
A push on him wouldn't work anyways, and I wouldn't support one even so.

What's your read on massive?

Where was you going with this TTH?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Night only.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't really know.

I'm just think massive is scum.

Reasons being?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wake, can you explain your vote on me?

@FG - You're thinking between massive and GC?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I would be down for lynching Boon.

Yep.

I'd lynch Doogal as well.

Agreed.

Nullish on Flubber

Lynch on him is acceptable.

Indeed!

Number of people mentioning that they've never heard of Neighbors before points to an all-Town Neighborhood.

I agree, but here's the question I have been asking myself; why didn't the Mod just make us Masons? An all-town neighbourhood is basically the same thing but our alignments are not confirmed.

Unless it was purely to create this kind of dynamic. I just can't make sense of it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hmm, I think I want to lynch Flubber the most.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Flubber

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo's lynch is not going through today.

Rufflig already jumped off and he was at L-3 (?) at that point.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You want me to sit on a wagon that is currently fading and going nowhere?

How is that productive for town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I stated a while ago that I didn't like Flubber's play this game.

Mostly due to his lurking and opportunistic jump onto my wagon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not willing to lynch massive, TTH, AK, GC, Wake, FG and Rufflig.

Would like to lynch Csareo, Flubber, Boon or maybe Doogal.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't get the Dougal scumreads

Lowest contributor after JA. Serious lurking.

I also really liked GC's 1444.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't get the Dougal scumreads

Lowest contributor after JA. Serious lurking.

I also really liked GC's 1444.

Meta me. This is my style and I've yet to be scum. All my games are in my siggy.

Meta you. That's funny.

I want to PL you now for trying to use meta to defend your lurking.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm also not willing to lynch boon or doogal, because their allegiance is discovered with BBT's.

Wrong. You're saying that like Boon and Doogal would be 100% conf. scum if I got lynched and flipped town. Which they wouldn't.

Csareo's not going to like this.

VOTE: Boon

Nobody wants to lynch Flubber

[BlueBloodedToffee]

When I lynch scum.

No more fake rage? I figured that was to make you seem genuine in your attempts to get me lynched anyway, it was a good job tbf because you gained town-reads from it I think.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'll replace out if BBT flips town, but self voting is silly.

Replacing out just gives someone else your scum-slot.

That's not fair.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not lynching anyone else because I'm not scum reading anyone else. BBT flip would reveal so much information and insight right now.

That's why you don't spend the whole of D1 tunneling.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I am almost certain scum are on Boonskies wagon. It developed to quick, and the people on BBT were all to happy to abandon their convicitions.
Flubber, I refused to self vote. It accomplishes nothing and is counter productive to the town win condition. I don't need to give scum a free mislynch if BBT flips town.

Look at my wagon, it's barely changed. There is no way that so many town players are

that

stubborn and not willing to look elsewhere.

If we have 3 scum, I would not be surprised to see all of them on my wagon.

Furthermore, TTH, AK and JA were not on your wagon Csareo, so I assume you're saying that it's me and massive (who you're not scum-reading remember) that are the scum on Boon's wagon. Or are we back to just me again....

I don't believe Boon's claim for one second either. He had already made clear that he wanted 24 hours to post if he got up to L-1 so I'm not sure why he was super worried about being hammered when he was only at L-3.

That looks like worried scum to me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Scum can't get off my wagon in case no other wagon picks up. They're pretty much committed to trying to get me lynched today.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Now that I realize it's Jagged who replaced that GreyICE slot, I don't really want to lynch Jagged at all, and I think FakeGod, though he came across very well last night, has started to look a bit slimey. (E.g., "would you be willing to vote yourself if your scum read is wrong?)

Completely disagree with this.

Scum FG could quite easily have come in and joined either my wagon or the Csareo wagon and I don't think anybody would have looked at him twice for it. Why would he try to break down not one wagon, but BOTH leading wagons as scum when he has a D1 lynch right there if he wants it?

I have a fairly strong town-read on FG right now.

PEdit - I don't know why you quoted my post Boon... Somebody would have given you a chance to respond before you got hammered.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You accused me for being scum for doing the exact same thing you did.

I was at L-1. There was a much higher chance of me being lynched as opposed to the situation you were in (L-3). I also didn't claim a PR like straight after saying it.

It's not even remotely the same.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because you couldn't. You're a neighbor. Also, if I didn't say anything, someone easily could have quick hammered me as I got to L-1. I wasn't able to be active all day, I apologize...

Yeah, quick-hammers don't look scummy at all. Like, I'm sure nobody would have questioned it D2 if you flipped town, even more so if you flipped a town PR.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Restating what I said earlier, the Csareo wagon dissipated to fast, and the boonskies wagon reached L-1 to fast.

But it's different people on the wagons...so what's your point? The only people who moved from your wagon to Boon's wagon is myself and massive.

Are you going to just ignore my previous question?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The people on my wagon are super stubborn.

Also, all this talk of meta is driving me crazy.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Spoiler: Huge Wall O' Text in response to Wake

I don't know how I missed this.

Another reason is that you ignored my post and I had to remind you in 976. And again you ignored me in 978. Only then in 980 did you clarify that his AtE felt fake. I don't understand why you dragged your feet in being forthcoming with the rest of us.

You have not been helpful, and when you do contribute it tends to be small answers. You're not making me feel as if you're willing to be transparent when you keep holding back as if you have something to hide. If you think that will make me go away in this game you are sorely mistaken.

One smaller reason is that you think AtE is alignment-indicative when it isn't. 964

Hmm, OK. I have already explained why I wasn't particularly ecstatic to get into a discussion with you. You hyper-analyze and over-think everything, you need the same thing explained to you over, and over, and over and sometimes even then you still just don't get it. Take the following post for example,

With the silence in the supposed Neighborhood.

How? How can you still be talking about this. Like, it's beyond belief that you continue to pursue it.

As for the first quote, are you suggesting that because I just answer straight, and don't fluff my one sentence answers into two paragraphs that somehow makes me scummy?

AtE is mainly used by scum. It's used to manipulate and deceive people's perceptions, not very useful to town. Agreed?

Another reason was you assertion that Flubber should be lynched for essentially contributing nothing, even though others at the time have posted and contributed less than he has. That you wouldn't admit that Flubber has contributed some as well makes me wonder whether or not you're being honest. He has contributed to the game in spite of your false assertion in 1009.

When I say he hasn't contributed, I mean he hasn't contributed anything worthy of mentioning.

Posting less does not equal less content.

I believe at the time massive had less posts than Flubber, however, if you compared the content and quality of those posts, massive looked the townier of the two by some distance.

Oh, and another thing. I asked you in 1030

why

you say they've contributed more than Flubber. You re-quoted 1026, but that

does not

answer my question. You refused to share details, and you refused to respond to my 1033. If you're not going to engage, then why are you even here? I'm trying to yank answers and information out of you but you've been the opposite of forthcoming. Your refusal in 1034 is what tripped my response in 1035. At that point you've continued to resist answering questions while denying Town helpful information.

No thanks.

See, there's that vibe again.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

Start contributing and working with members of Town. If you're Town then you're messing up because you're refusing to help the Town. If you get mislynched you'll have no one to blame but yourself for your Anti-Town behavior this game.

Because you over-anaylze everything and I really don't want to get into that with you.

VOTE: BBT

Every chance you get you fight to evade inquiry. I want to know

why

.

I believe I answered pretty much all your questions (except for your measurement one because I thought that was dumb). If you have any outstanding questions, ask away.

And yet again you refused to contribute by sharing final reads in 1046. You should have started providing read because you don't know if you could have been hammered, and you certainly shouldn't have been cocky and assert that you weren't in danger of being lynched while at L-1.

For the longest time you fought against sharing the mod's post in your supposed PT. You also say that after 1,200 posts not one more thing has been said in your 2-player Neighborhood. As I predicted, you and TTH came out of the gate as "Neighbors" pointing fingers at each other, yet rather quickly "made up" and passed it over, providing some sort of cover to make everyone believe you're Neighbors. And now you flat-out refuse to provide a screenshot of the PT, even though DP said Neighborhood was fair game and refused to clarify that Scum can't fabricate their PT posts.

Your reactions, BBT, are what has my attention.

I was in no danger of being lynched at that time, therefore, I did not need to post my final post. Had intent to hammer have been stated, I would have made my post. Anybody who hammered me without declaring intent to would have had a rough D2 after I flipped town.

I can't discuss the neighbourhood issue anymore. I. Just. Can't.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Your vote on me, Wake, basically boils down to you not liking how I play.

And that is a bullshit reason to want to lynch somebody.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fakegod made it clear he will hammer boonskies.
Everything about that wagon is off. Everything.

Am I still the only person you're reading as scum on Boon's wagon?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This is the scummiest damn wagon I have ever seen. God damn. There is absolutely no reason I should be lynched toDay, especially with the fact that I am pretty much NK bait now.

Why did you claim town PR the first time time instead of actually stating what your role was?

It makes you look like you needed time to think of a believable claim.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

[quote="In post 1754, Csareo"]
Hmm, I don't like that because it means I have to die.

Can you try to scum-read people without needing associative information? Or have you spent way too long tunnelling on me that that's not even possible anymore?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Who I scum read is dependent on your flip.

Hmm, I don't like that because it means I have to die.

Can you try to scum-read people without needing associative information? Or have you spent way too long tunnelling on me that that's not even possible anymore?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I was saying beforehand that I wasn't going to be able to keep up for the next half of the day. I didn't want to full claim in the case that I didn't have to. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CLAIM TRACKER AS SCUM?!

Yeah, I don't get this. As soon as you state 'town PR', you're pretty much dead N1 regardless. So, it doesn't make sense to leave the most important information out as if that could somehow keep you alive.

PEdit - Yeah. Claiming VT would have kept him alive fo' sho'.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo, you're basically pushing my lynch for information now.

That's two people with bullshit reasons trying to get me lynched and who are way too stubborn to look elsewhere.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo, you're basically pushing my lynch for information now.

That's two people with bullshit reasons trying to get me lynched and who are way too stubborn to look elsewhere.

I am certain you're scum, but I still think it would be silly to associate people with you before a flip.
People wouldn't take that seriously.

You're right. I stated that when you first started with your whole 'AK, TTH and BBT case', remember?

Your certainty is misplaced. You would do well to learn from this experience for your future mafia games.

@Boon

- Who's scum on your wagon?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm at L-1 now, right?

Same deal as the first time please. It's 1:16am here and I really don't want to wake up having been hammered.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't need 24 hours. I would like at least 12 from now though. Just so I can check the thread when I wake up in the morning.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't like the idea. From what I'm aware, you have nothing more to offer role wise, and the PT is an obvious dead end.

I would like to make a final contribution before I'm lynched.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Someone has to state intent to hammer.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What I'm saying is, I won't be lynched 12 hours from now if nobody else joins my wagon/states intent to.

I feel like my hand is being forced here.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wow, scum have probably realized what I was doing anyway. Boon, you have competition and you may survive the night.

I'm sorry town but I really fucking tried to not have to claim toDay.

As well as a neighbour, I'm also a Mason.

I hope you can all see and understand why I have been so utterly confused this entire game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, separate threads. Both night-talk only.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:25 am
Hey .......,

Any thoughts on how to start the day?

Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:47 am
In case you don't get a chance to reply before game start; I am also a neighbour with TellTaleHeart. I don't know if this means she is town or not though, so it's something to keep an eye out for.

Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:11 pm
No, night only.

I know, it's strange. Makes me think TTH could be scum already. I won't be mentioning to her that I'm mason with you.

Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:19 pm
I'm considering proposing to her that I think you're scum at end of D1 and seeing how she reacts to that.

Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:25 pm
I'm also going to act like I've just assumed she is town

Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:54 pm
I don't know whether TTH just slipped to me in the neighbour thread.

I have asked mod if I can paste the quotes in here. It looks like she was replying to somebody else.

I think you should try and tackle her today, see where it goes.

Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:00 am
Hmm, maybe not. Will be worth keeping an eye on though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No crumbs.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hint to us who your partner is. Also explain how you recruited him.

No and no.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Heh. I'm going to take this moment to pat myself on the back.


Feels good.

Hold the applause. BBT had a lot of time on his hands, let's not forget.

That's right. You continue pushing my lynch, I actually want you to. Push my lynch through, you'll be insta-lynched D2.

Now that I have claimed Mason, can everyone tell me their thoughts on TTH?

PEdit - Csareo, are you fucking serious?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:58 pm
You're a mason and a neighbour? That's unusual. Do you two have day talk?

That's all my partner said. The missing post #10 is me just quoting my chat with TTH from neighbour thread.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Remember that those times are from my time-zone.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Post #7 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:46 pm
I'm also considering fake-claiming a PR to her. If I get killed N1, it's highly likely that she is scum. Problem is, we obviously lose the power of being Masons. It's 1 for 1 but I'm really not sure if losing the power of Masons is worth one scum that we couldn't even be 100% sure about.

What do you think about that?

Post 8 may hint at my partner, I'm not posting it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo, push my lynch through, do it. Scream it from the rooftops, pressure everyone into voting me. Make sure you're at the forefront of everyone's minds after my flip.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The fact that you still haven't unvoted me and Boon has disappeared is very telling indeed.

PEdit - How was I lying to town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What are you even asking, Csar?

Masons don't come in singlets.

Usually a mason recruits other townies. There is almost never two masons in the same game.
One mason will recruit a player during the night phase, and if they're town, they can talk in private.
If one is scum, the mason is killed.

This isn't how masons work at all.

Keep going. Keep pushing.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Lie to TTH who

is not

confirmed town by any means.

Did you just slip again?

PEdit - Want to unvote me now Boon? It's like I say your name and you appear.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah GC, just one.

Csareo, so much scum. So much fucking scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:52 pm
Here is what's happened so far;

In post 1, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hey TTH,

Any plans on how to start the day?


In post 2, TellTaleHeart wrote:None


In post 3, TellTaleHeart wrote:I haven't had any games with him, but I've read a couple games with Wake88 and I've seen his posts around the forum (particularly Mafia Discussion). To my understanding, he's a pretty divisive player.

Have you played with Wake88 before and how do you go about tackling a read like that?


In post 4, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You haven't had any games with who?

I have no completed games with Wake so I have no idea how to approach him. Is there a reason you have specifically chosen Wake to speak about?

How many of the players do you know?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I would suggest it's highly likely that all scum are on my wagon.

Lynch them one by one and we win the game.

My wagon has been ridiculously static.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Meh, I'm borderline believing it. It's really obvious who his partner would be 'if' it's true though. So I need to wait before unvoting.

Take a guess? I won't confirm, but just satisfy my curiosity to see if you're right.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Meh, I'm borderline believing it. It's really obvious who his partner would be 'if' it's true though. So I need to wait before unvoting.

Me too. I'm suspicious of its context, position in a normal game, and how this information was presented.
None of which negates my scum read. If scum thought of this claim, it is genius, I'll give them that.
I just hope I'm not be suckered.

So, I have two PT's if I'm scum right? Tell me how that works. I can't wait to hear it.

PEdit - Yeah Boon, it's highly likely you're way off given how this day has panned out and how my partner has played.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

And under this context, I think he would be scum reading TTH.
At least if I were in his shoes and what he's saying is true.

Which I was, at first. Then she kept saying 'neighbourhood meta, neighbourhood meta' for why she kept scum-reading me. I obviously knew I was town, and if TTH was scum, she would also know I was town and would basically be incriminating herself after my flip.

PEdit - Keep pushing Csareo. Push my lynch through.

Do it

.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

UNVOTE:

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This whole Day has been a complete mess for me. As soon as TTH outed the neighbourhood this whole game has been a 'WTF is going on' for me.

@Csareo, I could have had that wrote up on Notepad and just copied it from there.

Lynch me

.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not doing this. I don't believe BBT's claim, and I think it is all to convenient, and in all the ways handled wrong.
Isn't it odd how it "Explained" everything that has happened so far. I'm supporting an informational policy lynch, not a town mislynch.

Fantastic. Fucking fantastic. It's like you're a modern Sherlock Holmes.

Push my lynch. Tell these guys they're wrong, you're right. It doesn't matter what information is presented, you want me lynched. Whether it's because you're scum-reading me, policy-lynching me, LaL, whatever. Tell them.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I would also like to lynch Csareo.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm actually quite pissed that I almost managed to get through D1 without claiming and had to claim with a couple of days to go.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm actually quite pissed that I almost managed to get through D1 without claiming and had to claim with a couple of days to go.

I think you should've claimed earlier.

It would have broken the stalemate wide open, and may have led to something productive before I arrived.

I've never been under any real threat of being lynched so I felt no need to claim. It would obviously have been beneficial to get through D1 and try to figure out wtf was going on.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Csareo, don't you dare back off my wagon now.

Stick to your convictions. You don't believe me, get me lynched.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fuck it, I'm sticking to my gut
VOTE: BBT

That's good.

Now, convince them I'm scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Csareo

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I already have. They're blinded by you editing the scum PT.
I stand by my promise. If BBT is town I will permanently self vote.
Now if there was any productive mislynch, it would be this jackass.

You're too good at this game Csareo.

You were right. I had that claim already made up, I wrote it all up in notepad pre-game to have it ready to produce whenever I needed it. It's all from the Scum PT, you got me.

Convince them. Re-state your case.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If I die, then BBT could potentially be scum, and we'll be able to prove it through the second mason eventually outing themselves.

Or Csareo, think of it this way. There may be no Masons in this game, and my scum partner could claim Mason, how clever would that be?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mason Neighbor...

Unbelievable.

Who in NRG let this through?

I actually think it's quite clever if scum are not stacked and TTH is town. Creates an interesting dynamic and threw me completely off my game.

PEdit - Csareo, I'm not mason. You got me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This is another thing that has me. I once played a game where I pinned a fake claim plot, and the scum couldn't stop gloating that they had me fooled.
To me, BBT is a cocky ass piece of scum who's is a little over the hedge.

That's not going to work Csareo.

Re-state your case. You know you're right. Walk them through it, tell them how I can only be scum and nothing else.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm enjoying this now.

I know it's going to crush him if he doesn't get me lynched and then finds out I'm scum.

Whoops, did I just slip there? Hmm, think that over Csareo.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This guy must be compensating for a very, very small dick.

Well done, that one actually made me laugh out loud.

Seriously though, enough with the comedy.

You don't have long to convince them I'm scum. Go. Do it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm sorry FG. I know I'm going to regret this when I wake up in the morning but I've been out tonight and had a little to drink. Csareo's arrogance and ignorance is really grating on me and has been throughout the whole of D1.

I apologize to town for my play D1 and for having to claim. I tried my best not to have to do it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT, can you full claim your role name?

It doesn't have a name.

It says I am neighbour with TTH and can speak to them in this thread. It says you're also a Mason with ... and you can speak to them here.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I knew TTH had to have another role. Was hoping she would trust me enough to talk about it during N1 but no need to now.

Town are just self-imploding.

TTH will prob get killed N1 so we should lynch her to make full use of her ability.

The discussion point is who she shoots though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have rather weak townread on Anatole, and I'm trying to strengthen it via Jagged lynch.

You don't think we should lynch TTH?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't have the impression you wanted to lynch TTH.

I'm asking you why you don't think a TTH lynch is the best play for today.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because she's town and there are better lynches?

Just because someone's Vengeful, doesn't mean you have to lynch them...

She loses her ability if she is killed, I don't understand why we shouldn't use it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

ONE OF YOU IS LYING.

Mason
Mason/Neighbor
Neighbor/Vengeful Townie

I don't believe they'd have that with a Tracker in a Normal game.

If you believe that's not practical, and you actually believe your words when you say you're Town, you'll target one of the other two. Since BBT did not say who his other Mason partner is, he could be lying, because it's incredibly safe for him to claim Mason and not reveal his partner, because it's unverifiable.

You're something else Wake. You truly are.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, well I don't know what the fuck to do.

I can jump on a JA wagon if that's what we need.

PEdit - No, I don't know what you mean FG

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If JA flips scum, Csareo is scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nah Wake, I'll pass.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're scum regardless Csareo, just more so if JA flips scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nah.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nah, I'm not.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nah, I'm not.

You're by far the worst and most unpleasant person I've played with. Ever.
I've been playing for two years.

That's fine, because the feeling is mutual.

I have never played a game like this in my life. This game is a write-off for me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

In my expierience, scum are more eager to claim and make elaborate plots.
The fall of town is when we start becoming to gullible. When someone makes an outrageous claim like this, the idea is to lynch them.
A BBT lynch would mend every issue wounding this game right now.

You're such a bad player. Like, seriously.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're really hurting your reputation, and mine, because I'm going absolutely AWOL with frustration.

I may well be. But I simply cannot fathom why you still want to lynch somebody who has claimed a town PR. It's ridiculously bad play, you're way too stubborn/arrogant/ignorant to ever become a half decent mafia player. Of course, that's only my opinion.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT, please disengage with Csareo. It's not helping me.

How are you feeling about a massive kill? Would you suggest any alternatives? (please don't say "Csareo")

I don't think you're getting lynched today TTH, so you may not get to use it.

I'm honestly lost in this game. I have no idea how to proceed.

I wouldn't have massive near the top of my list of choices though.

Flubber or Dougal could be a good shot.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hm. More things to punch holes in it seems.

Will be back later. FG, your current read on me? (Want to keep an eye on you.)

That looks like a scum post.

This feels like Wake is considering whether FG will be a threat to him on D2. The explanation for asking what he knows will be perceived as a scummy question also feels fake and forced.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Jagged Appliance

[BlueBloodedToffee]

FakeGod, I don't understand why you're willfully not being honest here. No way did I out a Mason. BBT was Scummy as hell, going out of his way to not answer questions or engage, visibly getting angry and frustrated for beings asked stuff, and was giving me a lot of good reasons to keep pressing him for answers. FG, please, stop it. My job as a member of Town is to unravel loose threads and question things that don't make sense. He chose to claim being a Mason, and that was after him saying at the start of the game that he was a Neighbor with TTH. He had a choice in the matter:

don't blame people for asking questions and applying pressure

.

One. Last. Time.

I answered all of your questions. I even addressed this in my most recent post asking why you were in fact voting me. You voted me because of my play-style, which is an awful reason to vote someone.

You were constantly

asking questions that had already been answered

. I'm going to reiterate that because I believe you may miss it. You were constantly

asking questions that had already been answered

.

Multiple times.

On top of this, even when you got the answers, you did not accept them. You just continued to question an answer when there was nothing more to give. You need to work on your questioning and your scum-hunting techniques because I'm telling you this right now, you're not a good townie.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nonsense.

I know full well Scum can lie, which is why I continue to poke and prod for answers. It's not just the answers I'm looking for, but the responses. The interactions. If anyone's been not that good of a player it's you, because you routinely fight to not engage or answer my questions. At least five times you did that. Take responsibility for your own bad behavior in this game.

In fact, your reactions don't feel genuine to me, so I can and will continue to ask questions and apply pressure, because I will not let you slide in this game. If you want to get nasty and mean, I wouldn't advise it, because I'll report you for abusive posts just like you did Csareo. Am I understood? The more you react negatively to questioning, the more it tells me you have things to hide. I will enter Hyper-Focus Mode and put some energy into really interrogating you if I deem it necessary.

And FakeGod, if a Town player is being Scummy, I'm not to blame for Scumhunting that Scummy player. That's ridiculous. As Town, strive to not be Scummy. Don't blame your own shortcomings on others when they pick up on your scent.

I didn't report Csareo, I'm sure the mod can confirm this. He wasn't bothering me at all with his insults, jus his play. You'd do well to remember that you insulted me earlier in this game as well, be careful what you wish for.

I just bolded it in the biggest font I could and you still missed it. I hope I never have the displeasure of playing with you again, and I truly mean that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

AK has also gone seriously quiet as of late. Especially compared to how he started the game.

It would just be my luck that one of my solid town-reads turned out to be scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

TTH, how do you feel about lynching AK?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Let's make that happen.

VOTE: AK

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, I am.

I wasn't when he first joined the thread but I feel confident now that he is town.

PEdit - I understand FG, but I'm not sure a Jagged lynch is the best lynch right now.

PEditv2 - AK jumps off Boon after Boon's claim, Boon says he doesn't understand AK wagon.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

He jumped off because 4 of you immediately jumped on.

Nah, he jumped off because he 'believed' your claim.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

He jumped off because 4 of you immediately jumped on.

It was nice of you to try and create a reason for him though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Okay, cool. Is anyone going to give me an explanation for changing votes to him, though? I'm not you BBT; I don't think everyone who votes me is scummy.

Where did AK vote for me?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I wasn't referring to him voting you. I was referring to why do I have to find AK for voting me/unvoting me scummy?

You don't see a difference in his play from early D1 to now?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What do people make of AK's 1214?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I cannot quote PMs from the mod, but I will say I think you're lying. 'Else you're implying he is.

What exactly are you implying here?

I am telling you I did not report Csareo.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Flubber, Boon and Doogal have been on 3 separate wagons together so far, GreyIce, myself and now JA. Their voting has been very similar in this game, I would bet there is at least one scum in those three, possibly two.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Flubber, Boon and Doogal have been on 3 separate wagons together so far, GreyIce, myself and now JA. Their voting has been very similar in this game, I would bet there is at least one scum in those three, possibly two.

Technically, that's 2 wagons, since Greyice and JA are the same person. How about we get a flip on JA and see how scummy myself, flubber and boon are? You up for that BBT?

OK, my bad.

Two wagons on three separate occasions. Pretty much the only time you're not all voting together is when any of you have unvoted.

I think I would be much happier to lynch scum. How does that sound to you?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Back end of wagon is scummy.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

but tracker is probably the one role he could have that I would believe in the slightest. I'm inclined to give it a day and see what the "result" is.

I don't see a tracker claim being true with what else we've had claimed and some of my own speculation that I don't think it's pro-town to analyze in thread.

What?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT, you have just admitted that JA's flip will help your associated reads come day 2.

Can you show me where I said this.

This day needs to end.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Tell me how AK went from your top town read to scum.

You realise there have been nearly 2,000 posts since that reads-list, right? His play has changed as the day has progressed, and not for the better. I didn't like his unvote of Boon despite saying he didn't believe Boon was a PR, until he claimed tracker and then he believed it. I also really liked GC's case on him.

OK, well I don't know what the fuck to do.

I can jump on a JA wagon if that's what we need.

PEdit - No, I don't know what you mean FG

So, you are OK with hanging JA on Saturday

VOTE: Jagged Appliance

And you make the vote. WHY DID YOU GET OFF THIS WAGON?

What you should be questioning is why I was on the wagon in the first place. It was pure sheeping because I'm completely lost in this game. This is a good example of a day just lasting way too long and town having way too much information to work with.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Flubber, Boon and Doogal have been on 3 separate wagons together so far, GreyIce, myself and now JA. Their voting has been very similar in this game, I would bet there is at least one scum in those three, possibly two.

Can someone give me some thoughts on the above please.

Is there anything in that voting pattern?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I would engage with you in discussion if I thought your posts hold any merit. Luckily for you, I don't.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

This day needs to end.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nah, I'm not hammering JA

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm sure it does.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I may be slightly suspicious of TTH if she doesn't die N1. This is mainly due to the timing of her claim though.

Having said that, I don't see scum ever claiming vengeful. It just doesn't make sense.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

TTH had no way of knowing that town would ask her NOT to use her ability.

A possible scenario would have been that everyone agreed that TTH should use her shot. And she got lynched. She would have been able to do nothing abut it.

PEdit - I'm town Wake. Continue you're tunnelling though. In fact, why don't you continue it for the entire game until one of us can no longer post. Then you can see how wrong you were and apologise for your awful play in this game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

3 claimed PR's and scum look elsewhere.

That certainly is interesting.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No, I didn't

[BlueBloodedToffee]

In. And I'd prefer Flubber.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What are your thoughts on D1 Flubber?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It means scum decided that they're fine with Flubber/Dougal/Boons coming under suspicion today.

What makes you think that scum thought it would be those three who would come under fire today? I mentioned the voting pattern yesterday and nobody paid any attention to me at all.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Voting pattern means little without the alignment confirmation, which, we now have.

hmmm....

I thought that Rufflig, who I knew to have figured out who the second mason was, decided to shoot Green Canyon for some reason.

Rufflig, I agree that GC kill was dumb, but can you explain why?

I guess. I was pretty confident in my JA town-read so maybe it felt a little more solid to me on D1 because of it.

You didn't answer why you thought scum would expect Flubber/Boon/Doogal to come under pressure today.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Scum may also have thought that the Csareo/Titus slot would come under pressure because of how hard he was pushing me D1. They may have thought that's where the attention would do given nobody listened to my theory on voting patterns yesterday.

Can we lynch Flubber today then?

VOTE: Flubber

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I want to know exactly why players rammed through that mislynch.

People did not listen when I said the wagon was crap, so I want

answers

.

Anyone in particular you want answers from?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Basically, everyone.

I have a lot of questions to ask people, but I feel a bit like some players flat-out refuse to answer them.

For one, I'd like to know what you feel of TTH's alignment currently. SInce you're a Mason, and your Mason partner is dead, do you feel the Neighbor you're attached to is also Town? Is there anything you could of said or done that may have given her the impression of who your partner is?

Neither of you died, either.

GC died. WHy was GC killed instead of you? Why wasn't TTH killed?

Basically I feel like I'm seeing things that are happening, then I get ignored, and then happen.

"Guys, guys, don't lynch JA. It's a mislynch."
~JA is a VT and is mislynched.

"Guys, guys, it'd be really suspicious if BBT and TTH survive the Night."
~GC, Mason, found dead and BBT and TTH survive.

Who in particular? You must have stronger feelings about some people over others on the wagon.

Wake, I really don't mean to cause offence but I imagine (and it's certainly the case for me) that people don't want to discuss issues with you because you're not a pleasant person to engage with. You really need to work on your interpersonal skills and maybe people will engage more and enjoy playing with you.

Here, I'm going to give it another go.

I think TTH is town. It's not a strong read, but it's strong enough that I wouldn't even consider lynching her today. I'm also in agreement with FG and TTH in that I felt it was pretty obvious that GC was my partner so anybody could have guessed that.

I also agreed that JA was a bad lynch, hence why I refused to join it.

Why is it suspicious to you that TTH and myself survived the night?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Something Fake God didn't bring up: What if the Green Crayon kill didn't have anything to do with role at all? What if the accuracy of Green Crayons' reads were what led to his demise?

This points to Anatole, who I was scumreading anyway.

That's a good point actually, I didn't even consider that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Flubber

: Do you think there are circumstances where a townie should lie? If so, can you give some examples?

With the exception of some 1337 gambits that I could pull from the wiki, next to none. But I don't see any strong scum motivation in AK's lie. Like, I'm going to claim right now I have a 13 inch penis. Do you think a wagon is going to form on me over it because of "lynch all liars"? It was anti-town to lie, but how is my lie going to forward scum? And that's ignoring the debate of whether or not he actually lied or not.

Oh, and BBT sheeped Ice's bullcrap, and then pulled out like 3 posts later?

VOTE: BBT

Pedit: High School English sucked balls.

VOTE: Jagged

Guys, Jagged's lack of scumhunting is a lot more recent than AK's, keeping in mind AK usually doesn't post on weekends.

Flubber's reasoning for his votes.

Doesn't look very towny to me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can we please not have this nonsense on D2 and stick to content related posting that will actually prove helpful and useful in finding scum.

Thanks.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wake, I feel the issue you're trying to pursue with FG is irrelevant. Can you tell me the scum-motivations behind what you think FG was trying to do? To me, it just seems like a simple misunderstanding (on your side, not FG's). I understand why FG asked/said what he did.

In response to your question re: my read on FG. I feel he is town and it's quite a strong town-read as well.

Either way, I do not feel this is relevant and worth pursuing. FG, if this day is over, can you move your vote onto Flubber please so we can move this game forward? You too, Wake.

Wake, your thoughts on Flubber?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You expect me to be killed? I don't think I'll be scum's first choice.

I got at least one more Day.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because I'm basically a VT with GC dead.

If TTH's and Boon's claims are true (and they're not scum), why would scum not kill one of those two?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Titus, your thoughts on Boon/Doogal/Flubber?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I agree with this statement completely, but why exactly do you see Rufflig as scummy? I've been semi null leaning more towards scum towards him the entire game for the most part.

Interesting. The only post I can find where you even slightly indicate you think Rufflig is scum is 795.

If you were truly semi-null/leaning scum on Rufflig for the entire game, why did you do absolutely nothing to try and develop this read?

Also, there is no way massive gets lynched toDay.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Titus, your thoughts on Boon/Doogal/Flubber?

Not completely. If I'm right on the setup, Massive sharing a no result implies he's a cop of somesort which wouldn't fit into the setup. Plus an outright copish claim doesn't make sense at the start of day 2 not without a guilty.

I need to go into more detail on the VCA though. Pesky work. Scum flip would also help.

It was Boon who shared a no result. Not massive.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No, Boon claimed Tracker.

He is claiming he tracked massive and massive didn't do anything.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@Fake are you sheeping BBT's vote on the grounds that he's conftown?

He's sheeping me because you're scum.

It's also interesting that you're in here asking questions trying to look town when it looks like you could come under some pressure. Coincidence? Probably not.

@BBT why do you oppose a massive lynch?

Because he's town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Doogal, how do you feel about lynching Flubber today?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@BBT, I'm not sure how I feel. Besides lurking, what is the case against him?

His voting pattern is pretty bad. Lurking is scummy, not providing much content is also scummy.

I quoted his reasons for being on my wagon and JA's wagon. Do they look like they come from a town perspective to you?

What do you think about Flubber's/Boon's and your votes seeming to follow each other around on D1?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I agree, he seemed very sheepy, but the wagons formed for valid reasons. I know I was pretty sure you were scum. And I was pretty sure JA was scum. So, it's hard to fault Flubber and Boon for doing the same thing I was doing. I'm still not sure why GC as town was trying to start yet another wagon instead of picking out of the 5 we had.

I'm starting to have a real problem understanding that TTH vengeful gambit and still haven't seen why it was good idea. Not a single person who was for it has explained why it was a good idea. I'm thinking that TTH is vengeful scum and may have been trying to get an early shot off. If that is the case, we would need to have some type of vig to offset her and I don't think we do. I was hoping that a vig would have taken her out in the night. God, I'm just confused as all hell.

There is a big difference between your votes and Flubbers. His voting was very opportunistic with little reasoning. Couple this with lurking and lack of content provided and it points to him being scum.

You don't find anything suspicious about all 3 of your votes sticking together throughout D1?

TTH could have claimed a hell of a lot better than vengeful townie if she wanted to keep herself alive. A vengeful townie claim just doesn't make sense from scum, it really doesn't.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Spoiler: VCA

Vote Count 1.02

BlueBloodedToffee(3)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo

Csareo(2)

– BlueBloodedToffee, scrambles

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Rambler

Not Voting(4)

–

Boonskiies, Doogal121

, The Rufflig, Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is on Sunday, September 21, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-21 11:00:00)}

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.

Rambler and GreyIce are being prodded.[/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.03

BlueBloodedToffee(3)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo

Csareo(3)

– BlueBloodedToffee, scrambles, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Rambler

Not Voting(3)

–

Boonskiies, Doogal121

, Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline is on Sunday, September 21, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-21 11:00:00)}

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.
Rambler did not pick up his prod within 24 hours and therefore is being replaced.[/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.04

BlueBloodedToffee(4)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo,

Boonskiies

Csareo(3)

– BlueBloodedToffee, scrambles, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Rambler

Not Voting(2)

–

Doogal121

, Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The deadline is temporarily on hold.

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.
Rambler is being replaced. When Rambler is officially replaced, the initial deadline will be revised and extended.[/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.05

BlueBloodedToffee(5)

– TellTaleHeart,

Flubbernugget

, Csareo,

Boonskiies, Doogal121

Boonskiies(2)

– massive, BlueBloodedToffee

Csareo(2)

–scrambles, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(1)

– GreyICE

GreyICE(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

Wake88(1)

– Green Crayons

Not Voting(1)

–Wake88

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

DoctorPepper will tabulate the new, extended deadline shortly.

Mod notes:

Let me know if you ever see any errors.
Green Crayons replaces Rambler, effective immediately. GreyIce has been prodded.[/area][/color]

At this point, all 3 votes sit on me all the way up to VC 1.18

Vote Count 1.18

Boonskiies(4)

–massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart, Green Crayons

BlueBloodedToffee(4)

–

Flubbernugget

, Csareo,

Doogal121

, Wake88

Not Voting(5)

– The Rufflig, Anatole Kuragin, FakeGod, BlueBloodedToffee,

Boonskiies

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.19

Boonskiies(4)

–massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart, Green Crayons

BlueBloodedToffee(4)

–

Flubbernugget, Doogal121

, Wake88, Csareo

JaggedAppliance(3)

– FakeGod, The Rufflig,

Boonskiies

Csareo(1)

- BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Vote Count 1.21

JaggedAppliance(5)

– FakeGod, The Rufflig,

Boonskiies, Flubbernugget, Doogal121

TellTaleHeart(4)

- Green Crayons, JaggedAppliance, Csareo, Wake88

Boonskiies(2)

–massive, TellTaleHeart

Csareo(1)

– BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Now all 3 of you sit on JA until his lynch.

Vote Count 1.29

JaggedAppliance(7)

– FakeGod,

Boonskiies, Flubbernugget, Doogal121

, Titus, TellTaleHeart, The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(3)

– Green Crayons, BlueBloodedToffee, JaggedAppliance

TellTaleHeart(1)

– Wake88

Boonskiies(1)

– massive

Not Voting(1)

– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 11:59 PM {(expired on 2014-09-30 23:59:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area][/color]

Sorry for the big font, thought regular font size would be missed amongst the VC's.

There is something in those voting patterns. It just feels off.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vote Flubber please Wake.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have stated my reasons Wake, only a few posts ago.

This is a normal game. Bastard Masons are not possible.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Boon - I don't believe his claim. His voting was also awful.

FG is town.

Titus I'm really not sure on. Leaning town for now.

Town for TTH as well.

FG > TTH > Titus. Boon is prob scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

2706, 2764, 2766 and 2767.

PEdit - If neither me or TTH die, I would expect Boon to be the one who got killed.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I won't be the kill tonight. Don't worry about me.

If neither of us die then I honestly don't know wtf to think. One of us has to be the next kill.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Considering this is Csareo's slot, what made you go from absolute scum to leaning town?

There were glimmers from Csareo that pointed towards him being town, I even stated that several times. Titus' play so far seems to come from a town-perspective, it's by no means a strong read though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I could get behind a Doogal lynch if needed.

Would much prefer Flubber > Boon > Doogal though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I could get behind a Doogal lynch if needed.

Would much prefer Flubber > Boon > Doogal though.

It's your call.

You're the confirmed town.

That doesn't mean I lead the way.

I don't think I like that post.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Lead the way please FG

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can we lynch Flubber now?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

FG for me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But, that seems irrelevant given how obvious it was GC was my partner.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What an interesting question.

Why are you not interested in his scum-reads?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I did answer you Wake