Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

[Csareo]

I can't believe you have the audacity to call me anti-town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're not anti-town.

You're flat out scum.

[TellTaleHeart]

What the hell, Fakegod can decide who he wants to vote without me and BBT barking up his leg.
FOS on TTH for unvoting, ciao.

This game is in dire need of a fresh perspective. I'll take your FoS.

[Csareo]

...Then you can't read players....
Why am I still here?

[Csareo]

What the hell, Fakegod can decide who he wants to vote without me and BBT barking up his leg.
FOS on TTH for unvoting, ciao.

This game is in dire need of a fresh perspective. I'll take your FoS.

Can you just tell me the title of the PT?
If not, then tell me what's unreasonable about this request.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No. In fact, I might unvote in a second.

Don't. Please fucking don't.
I'm sure you can acknowledge that BBT's flip is indicative to Greencrayon's allegiance.
A push on him wouldn't work anyways, and I wouldn't support one even so.

What's your read on massive?

Where was you going with this TTH?

[TellTaleHeart]

The bolded portion is delightfully overblown nonsense. I stated who I would look at given certain scenarios. This should be apparent from the every day, sensical language I used in Post 1186. You're now suggesting that if Csareo is actually scum and BBT is actually town, it is witchhunting to look at the players on the BBT bandwagon. I'll let that sink in and maybe you'll want to retract it. Or maybe not.

My choice of words notwithstanding, I think your reads list is bad and I disagree with it. I'm not going to retract anything.

[TellTaleHeart]

What's your read on massive?

Where was you going with this TTH?

I don't really know.

I'm just think massive is scum.

[FakeGod]

I believe that a neighborhood of TTH and BBT exists.

This would mean that one of them

must be

Town, since this is a Normal game, and

all-scum neighborhoods do not exist

.

Lynching out of a neighborhood in a Normal game is

incredibly

suboptimal for obvious reasons.

I think I rather rely on TTH to sort BBT out during the night instead of lynching BBT in d1.

Speaking of which, TTH/BBT, do you guys have daytalk?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Night only.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't really know.

I'm just think massive is scum.

Reasons being?

[FakeGod]

I see.

Then it's a good bet that scum does not have daytalk, unless they have an encryptor.

[FakeGod]

I'm thinking we lynch out of people who joined the Csareo wagon late.

That's my guess where scum votes are.

[Wake1]

This would mean that one of them

must be

Town, since this is a Normal game, and

all-scum neighborhoods do not exist

.

Evidence?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_game
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

I'm not finding that assertion in the Wiki.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wake, can you explain your vote on me?

@FG - You're thinking between massive and GC?

[TellTaleHeart]

I don't really know.

I'm just think massive is scum.

Reasons being?

He's on the Csareo wagon. And I think his questioning of you a while back was incredibly stilted and awkward, especially the one about "who's the scum on the other wagon." It just seemed pretty bizarre and not for any purpose other than to fill up space. I was also suspicious of him earlier for being on the periphery of the discussion. Interestingly enough, he reframed this as "lurking," which I never accused him of.

[TellTaleHeart]

At this stage, I would very much be for a massive, Anatole, or BBT lynch.

[FakeGod]

This would mean that one of them

must be

Town, since this is a Normal game, and

all-scum neighborhoods do not exist

.

Evidence?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_game
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

I'm not finding that assertion in the Wiki.

I can't find it either.

So you're going to pursue your theory of an all-scum neighborhood?

I have never seen one.

[TellTaleHeart]

FakeGod, at the risk of sounding like I'm buddying, I will say that I very much hope you can rise above the ridiculousness that's been clouding this game.

[Csareo]

Telltale, replace your vote.

[TellTaleHeart]

I will do no such thing until I hear FakeGod's take on the game.

[The Rufflig]

Because wake has a theory that they're both scum faking to be neighbors.

That theory is impossible, because this is a Normal game, and that means that everyone who has an access to a neighborhood will flip "Neighbor", whether the person is scum or town.

The sad part is that we've had this discussion with all of these exact same points before and the topic still keeps coming up. *sigh*

[Wake1]

Wake, can you explain your vote on me?

The reason I'm voting for you is manifold.


Another reason is that you ignored my post and I had to remind you in 976. And again you ignored me in 978. Only then in 980 did you clarify that his AtE felt fake. I don't understand why you dragged your feet in being forthcoming with the rest of us.

You have not been helpful, and when you do contribute it tends to be small answers. You're not making me feel as if you're willing to be transparent when you keep holding back as if you have something to hide. If you think that will make me go away in this game you are sorely mistaken.

One smaller reason is that you think AtE is alignment-indicative when it isn't. 964

Another reason was you assertion that Flubber should be lynched for essentially contributing nothing, even though others at the time have posted and contributed less than he has. That you wouldn't admit that Flubber has contributed some as well makes me wonder whether or not you're being honest. He has contributed to the game in spite of your false assertion in 1009.

Oh, and another thing. I asked you in 1030

why

you say they've contributed more than Flubber. You re-quoted 1026, but that

does not

answer my question. You refused to share details, and you refused to respond to my 1033. If you're not going to engage, then why are you even here? I'm trying to yank answers and information out of you but you've been the opposite of forthcoming. Your refusal in 1034 is what tripped my response in 1035. At that point you've continued to resist answering questions while denying Town helpful information.

No thanks.

See, there's that vibe again.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

Start contributing and working with members of Town. If you're Town then you're messing up because you're refusing to help the Town. If you get mislynched you'll have no one to blame but yourself for your Anti-Town behavior this game.

Because you over-anaylze everything and I really don't want to get into that with you.

VOTE: BBT

Every chance you get you fight to evade inquiry. I want to know

why

.

And yet again you refused to contribute by sharing final reads in 1046. You should have started providing read because you don't know if you could have been hammered, and you certainly shouldn't have been cocky and assert that you weren't in danger of being lynched while at L-1.

For the longest time you fought against sharing the mod's post in your supposed PT. You also say that after 1,200 posts not one more thing has been said in your 2-player Neighborhood. As I predicted, you and TTH came out of the gate as "Neighbors" pointing fingers at each other, yet rather quickly "made up" and passed it over, providing some sort of cover to make everyone believe you're Neighbors. And now you flat-out refuse to provide a screenshot of the PT, even though DP said Neighborhood was fair game and refused to clarify that Scum can't fabricate their PT posts.

Your reactions, BBT, are what has my attention.

[FakeGod]

yet rather quickly "made up" and passed it over, providing some sort of cover to make everyone believe you're Neighbors.

Wake, TTH held BBT at L-1 for an extended period of time.

I see no evidence of your statement.

I am very sure that they are in an actual neighborhood.

[The Rufflig]

For the longest time you fought against sharing the mod's post in your supposed PT. You also say that after 1,200 posts not one more thing has been said in your 2-player Neighborhood. As I predicted, you and TTH came out of the gate as "Neighbors" pointing fingers at each other, yet rather quickly "made up" and passed it over, providing some sort of cover to make everyone believe you're Neighbors. And now you flat-out refuse to provide a screenshot of the PT, even though DP said Neighborhood was fair game and refused to clarify that Scum can't fabricate their PT posts.

Focus, Wake88. Quoting the mod verbatim is a modkillable offense is most games. BBT has been steadfast in his refusal to quote the mod without permission. The mod's silence on that question is what finally led to BBT quoting it. The neighbors do not have day talk, they can only speak at night. Their PT is locked. They cannot make new posts in their PT no matter how many posts we generate during day 1. Screenshots is yet another common modkillable offense. How can you blame BBT for wanting permission from the mod, first?

If you insist on believing BBT and TTH are faking the whole thing, why not pick on TTH for awhile?