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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:27 am

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Vote Count 1.17

Boonskiies(5)
– BlueBloodedToffee, massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart, Green Crayons
BlueBloodedToffee(5)
– Flubbernugget, Csareo, Boonskiies, Doogal121, Wake88
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– The Rufflig, Anatole Kuragin, FakeGod

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:28 am

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I am having a difficult time reading FG.
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:31 am

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In post 1685, Csareo wrote:That relies on the premise that scum think they're going to be lynched.
Faking a neighborhood is 100% possible, there just isn't any proof.

Pray tell me, why on earth would scum_TTH claim neighbor on page 1 expressing suspicion on her buddy, and RUN HIM UP TO EXTENDED L-1, IF SHE'S FULLY AWARE HIS FLIP WILL LEAD TO HER DOOM?

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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:32 am

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In post 1726, Wake1 wrote:I am having a difficult time reading FG.

That's nice.

I think you're easy to read in this game.
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:33 am

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In post 1727, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1685, Csareo wrote:That relies on the premise that scum think they're going to be lynched.
Faking a neighborhood is 100% possible, there just isn't any proof.

Pray tell me, why on earth would scum_TTH claim neighbor on page 1 expressing suspicion on her buddy, and RUN HIM UP TO EXTENDED L-1, IF SHE'S FULLY AWARE HIS FLIP WILL LEAD TO HER DOOM?

That's borderline playing against their win con.


Anything is possible.

2/3 of their team could be doing that. Unlikely, but possible,
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:33 am

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In post 1728, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1726, Wake1 wrote:I am having a difficult time reading FG.

That's nice.

I think you're easy to read in this game.


Oh?
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:34 am

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Then they're taking an unnecessary gamble.

They would be doing something that lowers their chance of winning, without any compensation.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:36 am

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In post 1730, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1728, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1726, Wake1 wrote:I am having a difficult time reading FG.

That's nice.

I think you're easy to read in this game.


Oh?

Did I mistype?
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:38 am

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In post 1732, FakeGod wrote:
Did I mistype?


You did not.

I'd like to know which way you're reading me, since you say I'm easy to read in this game.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:38 am

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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:40 am

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Yet you could be Scum trying to placate me, or attempting to stroke my ego.

You may indeed be Town, and unaware that I play this way when Scum, too.

Give me your own feedback on why I'm oh-so-solid-Town this game, so I can compare them with my notes, please. (It'd be nice.)
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:47 am

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By meta.

I was scum with you before, and this is a vastly different style you're employing.
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:53 am

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In post 1736, FakeGod wrote:By meta.

I was scum with you before, and this is a vastly different style you're employing.


...

Which game?

I've continuously been changing my playstyle.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:54 am

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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:57 am

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Mm. Just over a year ago.

Though accurate, your assertion means little to me.

And I'll hold you to it the remainder of this game, FG.
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:58 am

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So, which wagon will you jump on and why?
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:59 am

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Please don't ask for reasons if they mean little to you, Wake.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:01 pm

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In post 1741, FakeGod wrote:Please don't ask for reasons if they mean little to you, Wake.


Don't mistake my words.

The reasons mean much.

They don't mean you're Town. I should have clarified in that they mean little in sorting out your alignment.
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:02 pm

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If that sounded rude, and on reread it could look that way, then I apologize. That wasn't my intent.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:17 pm

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The people on my wagon are super stubborn.

Also, all this talk of meta is driving me crazy.
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:28 pm

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In post 1740, Wake1 wrote:So, which wagon will you jump on and why?

The default leading wagon is Boons at the moment, and will be the lynch if no one makes a move.

I think that Boon's play doesn't match his claim, and that he should be lynched,
and be taught a lesson to not play like a VI if he's an investigative PR.


I also think maybe I should just let the BBT wagon go through
and see how much skill Csar and his gang has behind their arrogance.


Unfortunately
, I'm not here to pass judgments, or to teach people a lesson. --- I'm here to catch scum.

I honestly cannot believe that the players here were stubborn enough to generate only 1 real wagon in 50+ pages before my arrival. Csareo wagon was obviously just a preservation effort led by BBT. (you can tell by the way it disintegrated)

Now, I doubt that Csareo_scum would go out of his way to piss people off and lead a bloody lynch against a town. BBT's alignment I am less sure on, but I'm inclined to use the tool mod gave us to sort him out, namely the
neighborhood
. If the mod is allowing total access in quoting out of the neighborhood, then it would be silly to throw a weapon like that away from town's POV. This means BBT lynch is unacceptable d1.

Boons push led to what I thought was a caught scum trying to fakeclaim his way out. Apparently large number of Boon defenders rose to the occasion,
to my annoyance
, which made me less sure on the Boons case, because I was unfamiliar with the his meta.

Now, I know what the
textbook play is
. It would be
to lynch Boons's tracker claim
. Time is running out, and with a large number of players death-locked in their vote against BBT, it would be difficult to land a scum lynch without them bussing. (btw scum has no reason to bus right now)

And here Wake asks me which wagon I should join. Oh,
how should I answer him
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:38 pm

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In post 1626, FakeGod wrote:Anatole,

between Dougal and Jagged, which one is a better alternative lynch?


This is what I'm looking at as alternative at the moment.

Please give me your input if you're town.

If you're scum, self-vote please.
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:40 pm

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Spoiler: Huge Wall O' Text in response to Wake
I don't know how I missed this.
In post 1422, Wake1 wrote:
Another reason is that you ignored my post and I had to remind you in . And again you ignored me in . Only then in did you clarify that his AtE felt fake. I don't understand why you dragged your feet in being forthcoming with the rest of us.

You have not been helpful, and when you do contribute it tends to be small answers. You're not making me feel as if you're willing to be transparent when you keep holding back as if you have something to hide. If you think that will make me go away in this game you are sorely mistaken.

One smaller reason is that you think AtE is alignment-indicative when it isn't.

Hmm, OK. I have already explained why I wasn't particularly ecstatic to get into a discussion with you. You hyper-analyze and over-think everything, you need the same thing explained to you over, and over, and over and sometimes even then you still just don't get it. Take the following post for example,
In post 1649, Wake1 wrote:
With the silence in the supposed Neighborhood.

How? How can you still be talking about this. Like, it's beyond belief that you continue to pursue it.

As for the first quote, are you suggesting that because I just answer straight, and don't fluff my one sentence answers into two paragraphs that somehow makes me scummy?

AtE is mainly used by scum. It's used to manipulate and deceive people's perceptions, not very useful to town. Agreed?

In post 1422, Wake1 wrote:Another reason was you assertion that Flubber should be lynched for essentially contributing nothing, even though others at the time have posted and contributed less than he has. That you wouldn't admit that Flubber has contributed some as well makes me wonder whether or not you're being honest. He has contributed to the game in spite of your false assertion in .

When I say he hasn't contributed, I mean he hasn't contributed anything worthy of mentioning.

Posting less does not equal less content.

I believe at the time massive had less posts than Flubber, however, if you compared the content and quality of those posts, massive looked the townier of the two by some distance.

In post 1422, Wake1 wrote:Oh, and another thing. I asked you in
why
you say they've contributed more than Flubber. You re-quoted , but that
does not
answer my question. You refused to share details, and you refused to respond to my . If you're not going to engage, then why are you even here? I'm trying to yank answers and information out of you but you've been the opposite of forthcoming. Your refusal in is what tripped my response in . At that point you've continued to resist answering questions while denying Town helpful information.

In post 1036, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1034, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:No thanks.


See, there's that vibe again.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

Start contributing and working with members of Town. If you're Town then you're messing up because you're refusing to help the Town. If you get mislynched you'll have no one to blame but yourself for your Anti-Town behavior this game.

In post 1037, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Because you over-anaylze everything and I really don't want to get into that with you.

In post 1038, Wake1 wrote:VOTE: BBT


Every chance you get you fight to evade inquiry. I want to know
why
.

I believe I answered pretty much all your questions (except for your measurement one because I thought that was dumb). If you have any outstanding questions, ask away.

In post 1422, Wake1 wrote:And yet again you refused to contribute by sharing final reads in . You should have started providing read because you don't know if you could have been hammered, and you certainly shouldn't have been cocky and assert that you weren't in danger of being lynched while at L-1.

For the longest time you fought against sharing the mod's post in your supposed PT. You also say that after 1,200 posts not one more thing has been said in your 2-player Neighborhood. As I predicted, you and TTH came out of the gate as "Neighbors" pointing fingers at each other, yet rather quickly "made up" and passed it over, providing some sort of cover to make everyone believe you're Neighbors. And now you flat-out refuse to provide a screenshot of the PT, even though DP said Neighborhood was fair game and refused to clarify that Scum can't fabricate their PT posts.

Your reactions, BBT, are what has my attention.

I was in no danger of being lynched at that time, therefore, I did not need to post my final post. Had intent to hammer have been stated, I would have made my post. Anybody who hammered me without declaring intent to would have had a rough D2 after I flipped town.

I can't discuss the neighbourhood issue anymore. I. Just. Can't.
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:48 pm

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Your vote on me, Wake, basically boils down to you not liking how I play.

And that is a bullshit reason to want to lynch somebody.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:48 pm

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Fakegod made it clear he will hammer boonskies.
Everything about that wagon is off. Everything.
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