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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:36 pm

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In post 1559, Csareo wrote:Who are you going to track?



I feel if I say that it might mess with my results; if I tell you who I plan on tracking, I most likely will change it. There's no way I plan on tracking BBT, though. It's obvious he isn't going to make the kill.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:54 pm

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In post 1599, FakeGod wrote:
In post 1598, The Rufflig wrote:I was not town reading Boonskiies. I do not claim to be able to read his alignment with any certainty. The swiftness of Boonskiies' wagon reaching L-1 with only 1 vote moving from BBT raises a lot of troubling questions.

For a guy claiming to not townread Boons, you are going at great lengths to defend Boons.


Yes, I suppose I am. However, I couldn't let your argument against Boonskiies stand uncontested. Boonskiies is aptly self-described as a troll; you weren't taking that into account. I really haven't touched Massive and Jagged Appliances' cases.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:55 pm

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I would like the second guy to chime in his opinion.

(I think you mentioned Flub having a recent game with Boon)
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:58 pm

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It would be foolhardy to lead a lynch against 'Boon, if two players that have recent experience with him are independently reluctant to lynch him.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:02 pm

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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:23 pm

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In post 1562, Csareo wrote:I am almost certain scum are on Boonskies wagon. It developed to quick, and the people on BBT were all to happy to abandon their convicitions.
Flubber, I refused to self vote. It accomplishes nothing and is counter productive to the town win condition. I don't need to give scum a free mislynch if BBT flips town.

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If we have 3 scum, I would not be surprised to see all of them on my wagon.

Furthermore, TTH, AK and JA were not on your wagon Csareo, so I assume you're saying that it's me and massive (who you're not scum-reading remember) that are the scum on Boon's wagon. Or are we back to just me again....

I don't believe Boon's claim for one second either. He had already made clear that he wanted 24 hours to post if he got up to L-1 so I'm not sure why he was super worried about being hammered when he was only at L-3.

That looks like worried scum to me.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:27 pm

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Scum can't get off my wagon in case no other wagon picks up. They're pretty much committed to trying to get me lynched today.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:28 pm

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In post 1040, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Awww, shiiiiiit.

Someone better state intent-to-hammer and give me 24 hours to respond and post my last post.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:29 pm

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I knew I was going to be busy today, and didn't want to be lynched.
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:32 pm

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In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:
Now that I realize it's Jagged who replaced that GreyICE slot, I don't really want to lynch Jagged at all, and I think FakeGod, though he came across very well last night, has started to look a bit slimey. (E.g., "would you be willing to vote yourself if your scum read is wrong?)

Completely disagree with this.

Scum FG could quite easily have come in and joined either my wagon or the Csareo wagon and I don't think anybody would have looked at him twice for it. Why would he try to break down not one wagon, but BOTH leading wagons as scum when he has a D1 lynch right there if he wants it?

I have a fairly strong town-read on FG right now.

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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:05 pm

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You accused me for being scum for doing the exact same thing you did.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:21 pm

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In post 1610, Boonskiies wrote:You accused me for being scum for doing the exact same thing you did.

I was at L-1. There was a much higher chance of me being lynched as opposed to the situation you were in (L-3). I also didn't claim a PR like straight after saying it.

It's not even remotely the same.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:54 pm

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Because you couldn't. You're a neighbor. Also, if I didn't say anything, someone easily could have quick hammered me as I got to L-1. I wasn't able to be active all day, I apologize...
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:00 pm

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In post 1612, Boonskiies wrote:Because you couldn't. You're a neighbor. Also, if I didn't say anything, someone easily could have quick hammered me as I got to L-1. I wasn't able to be active all day, I apologize...

Yeah, quick-hammers don't look scummy at all. Like, I'm sure nobody would have questioned it D2 if you flipped town, even more so if you flipped a town PR.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:32 pm

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Restating what I said earlier, the Csareo wagon dissipated to fast, and the boonskies wagon reached L-1 to fast.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:17 am

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In post 1614, Csareo wrote:Restating what I said earlier, the Csareo wagon dissipated to fast, and the boonskies wagon reached L-1 to fast.

But it's different people on the wagons...so what's your point? The only people who moved from your wagon to Boon's wagon is myself and massive.

Are you going to just ignore my previous question?
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:31 am

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Can somebody explain to me how day 2 isn't just going to be @TTH/@BBT "Wat happaned on ur PT" for 50 more pages?
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:47 am

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Boon's claim sounds very dodgy to me, I don't believe him.

@Doogal, you said my scumread on you came out of nowhere. What does that even mean? And I don't know what you mean by your last post. Are you giving that as a reason to lynch BBT?
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:31 am

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In post 1609, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Scum FG could quite easily have come in and joined either my wagon or the Csareo wagon and I don't think anybody would have looked at him twice for it. Why would he try to break down not one wagon, but BOTH leading wagons as scum when he has a D1 lynch right there if he wants it?

I see your question as written, but I read it as: why would scum do something that makes them look reasonable and level headed, which will hopefully reap a long-term benefit (becoming trusted by the town) over an immediate benefit of a D1 lynch (that, as a matter of probabilities, will likely be of a town anyways)?


And when I read your question that way, it sort of answers itself.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:33 am

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In post 1549, Green Crayons wrote:
@Boon:


Here are the points against you that are convincing me. Please address as you see fit:
In post 493, massive wrote:Immediately after my vote on him, Boon completely disappeared. At the time of your request, he hadn't done anything to make me move my vote, and his vote in 467 was pretty rubbish too. 476 has him casually mention the "double-scum-gambit" possibility which, really, people, can we all agree that's a little obtuse? Like this:

In post 476, Boonskiies wrote:Granted, there's still the possibility of both of you being scum, which in case, it gives even more reason for you guys to try to stay away from a lynch.

makes no sense. If you're both scum, you practically WANT a lynch here, because (to most of us) it would auto-townie the other one. Pushing the double-scum-gambit as even a possibility here just keeps it in people's minds.

In post 1508, massive wrote:750 - Continuing to feed the "neighbors are both scum" conspiracy nonsense.
752 - His BBT vote is based solely on town-reading Csareo. That read is in 352 and is caused by one Csareo post.

<snip>

1235 - Continues to be the only person hunting an SK.

And this:

In post 1500, Boonskiies wrote:I have stated multiple reasons, and any competent person would understand why I'm voting BBT.

Talk to us like we're five and incompetent. Besides what I've mentioned above (the fact that you town-read Csareo) give us the ESPN Highlight Reel of why you are voting BBT.

UNVOTE:
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Never saw anything that addressed the actual case, only a PR claim. Posting it again.
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:00 am

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In post 1603, FakeGod wrote:It would be foolhardy to lead a lynch against 'Boon, if two players that have recent experience with him are independently reluctant to lynch him.


Completely independent of meta, how sure are you on this Boonskiies read, FakeGod?
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:14 am

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UNVOTE:

This is shitty because we don't want a counter-claim, but tracker is probably the one role he could have that I would believe in the slightest. I'm inclined to give it a day and see what the "result" is.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:34 am

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In post 1620, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 1603, FakeGod wrote:It would be foolhardy to lead a lynch against 'Boon, if two players that have recent experience with him are independently reluctant to lynch him.


Completely independent of meta, how sure are you on this Boonskiies read, FakeGod?

I pushed him to L-1 before the meta stuff came up.

You know my stance in the matter.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:35 am

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In post 1621, Anatole Kuragin wrote:UNVOTE:

This is shitty because we don't want a counter-claim, but tracker is probably the one role he could have that I would believe in the slightest. I'm inclined to give it a day and see what the "result" is.

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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:39 am

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In post 1604, FakeGod wrote:
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