Okay, these are the results. I'll begin by explaining the survey.
Questions 1-3 were related to each player's experience. This is an obvious part of any baseline meta read.
Question 4 pertains to which other players you may have a meta read on, which is a fancy way of saying you have better-than-zero idea of what they might do in this topic.
Question 5 is the first one where I push the envelope and get an idea of what people like best about Mafia, or in other words, what I can expect to see them do in this game as either alignment. Wishy-washy answers of Town would be something to press on as scum nervous about tying themselves to being scum.
Question 6, the infamous fictional character question. In the same line as Question 5, most people will choose their favorite fictional character based on them thinking or acting the same way on some level. Plus if nothing else it's something nice to know about you, and there's really no harm in knowing that.
Question 7, about how many scum are in this game. This question is only there to make scum object to it as outguessing the setup. 3 is the standard answer.
Questions 8 through 10 are related to the survey itself, as I expected people to wtf about it. Of course, there's kind of a Catch-22 that people who don't think the setup would help wouldn't fill it out in the first place, but my initial expectation would be that unless there's a valid reason to object to the entire survey (and it had better be good), a disbelieving Townie would at least answer honestly here.
Question 11 is very important because people who do not speak English as a first language are more likely to be misunderstood, which can lead to awkward situations in the future if they mess up their English.
Question 12 was originally intended to see whether anyone would actually commit their own scumtells later; however, I completely understand people not wanting to tell at this point and find that answer acceptable.
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Now for some reads.
DeathRowKitty's answers provide me zero information. This is partly because to a degree he couldn't answer a lot of them; however, the terse nature of his answers keep him at neutral for now.
I have no problem with jammer's answers and would like for Porkens to explain why he's picking on jammer.
Unless Porkens has finally gone over the edge and needs to be sent to the nut house (admittedly a possibility
), I'm interpreting his objection to my survey as a way to stir up reactions to it without particular malice about it (see obvious sarcasm in "In the literally thousands of games I've played here"). The reasons he listed for why the survey is anti-Town are inadequate for reasons I've started to touch on, but to a degree I suspect that's the point.
So my read on Porkens is entirely dependent on what reactions he has found and his judgment on them. Of course, if he claims that his objections were serious the whole time, he's full of crap.
It's very tempting to say that Cruciare's disappearance after I asked some very direct questions is telling, but I know better.
For now, considering that this sort of behavior is nicely in line with the Cruciare I remember from Time Abuse Mafia and judging from still being a Goon he hasn't played much here since then, I'll have to go with a slight Town read.
James.Denholm initial flippant response feels like Town who either doesn't have any idea what he's talking about and/or underestimates me. For instance,
J.D 26 wrote:Seriously, what the hell does our favourite fiction character have to do with anything? And if it does have something to do with something, what's to stop me from lying? I could say, for example, Harry Potter, when I mean, for example, Marcus Fenix! You probably don't even know who that is!
Do you mean this Marcus Fenix?
His continued attempts to discredit this survey have shaken this initial read. I'm keeping an eye here.
Also, while I'm here.
J.D 41 wrote:Why do you feel the need to only answer your own question after everyone else has? Lead by example.
Vi 34 wrote:Actually, it has to do with people not conforming their answers to what they think I'm looking for.
I'm definitely assuming English is your first language. Please read before you attempt to discredit something in an attempt to look cool. Thank you.
sigma, like DeathRowKitty, doesn't have much to go on based on not having any completed games. The responses feel vaguely Town; however,
sigma 28 wrote:9)
[Do you think this survey will be useful in finding scum?]
Yes -- whether or not it's answered by scum.
I'd like to know who you find suspicious based on this, considering you random voted in the same post.
Col. Cathart's answers strike me as coming from an experienced perspective, which makes sense given he's played offsite. However, the answers are fully open, which I approve of. I would like to know who he thinks is scum at this point.
Tjoe Min Ja (TMJ) has an interesting response to 5, although it's not useful at this time. Other than that, it's not opportunistic anywhere. Null, slight positive read.
imaginality... oh, oops. Add imaginality to the list of players I've played with recently.
I would like to see who imaginality finds suspicious at this point. The answers are nice; the vote is absent. (For instance, why not vote Y.C. in your first post instead of FoSing him?)
Y.C.'s answers are throwing red flags everywhere, and I'm not just talking about not participating in the survey.
Y.C. 44 wrote:2. The attempt to bind participation in the survey to any aspect in the game itself is problematic to say the least.
You don't have a leg to stand on. Explain yourself, now.
Y.C. 44 wrote:3. Nonetheless, this business, although irritating to the extreme, is not indicative of anything beyond itself. I do not take Vi to be scum (yet).
I don't believe this waffle. If my attempt to bind participation to the survey is
at least
problematic, wouldn't it suggest that I'm being deliberately anti-Town? At this stage in the game, isn't that worth a vote?
Y.C. 44 wrote:Vi 24 wrote:I acknowledge that I like ruining other peoples' fun
Delibaretly admitting this either conceales a desire to get lynched, being a jester, or is rude in the extreme. So much in fact, that I will move my vote to her if she does not stop this side-tracking. I will sacrifice a townsperson on the principle that such rudeness should not go unpunished and that I do not wish to have any contact with self-declared trolls.
"rude in the extreme"? Why thank you
The quote from me is an obvious joke in a similar vein to Porkens' "literally thousands of games". Now let's count the anti-Town statements here.
1) "jester" - Anyone who says the J-word in a game should be shot on sight. Considering this goes hand-in-hand with "conceals a desire to get lynched", it seems like I'm two parts Jester, one part troll. I like to think that I'm one part
Troll.
In addition, the optimum play with Jesters is to lynch them anyway. So why waffle and not vote?
2) "sacrifice a townsperson" - Wait, wait, wait, and wait.
Did you just call me a townsperson without any qualifiers?
That's a slip. Thank you for making my life easy.
3) "such rudeness should not go unpunished" - Rudeness has nothing to do with my alignment. In addition, the quote you posted has nothing to do with me being rude. And last, if you want rude, let me get JDodge in here. I just joke around.
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And so we see that the survey did its job nicely~
Vote: Y.C.
(L-5)
Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.