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It's not necessarily suffering, just a sadness on any level that either is directly experienced by ones self, or is view by one from a far, thus giving them a prospect of what life is when it is not good. If everything was always good we wouldn't know bad. And happiness is simply the knowing that you have a better life than you could have, so if no one ever had a less than good life, no one would know of happy or sad.#freeShotty-
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WHY NO KITTIES!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!KittyMo wrote:
[2] Haylen - (silverbullet999, Switz)
[2] drmyshottyizsik - (Haylen, Prox)
[0] Crayboff - ()
[0] Good and Honest - ()
[0] Hinduragi - ()
[0] Little Plastic Ninja - ()
[0] Prox - ()
[0] silverbullet999 - ()
[0] Switz - ()
[5]Not Voting- (Crayboff, drmyshottyizsik, Good and Honest, Hinduragi, Little Plastic Ninja)
With9alive, it's5to lynch!
Deadline is at Wednesday, August 4, 2010 at 9:00:00 PM (Los Angeles time)
To remind you of this, I will put here a picture of a slug jazz quartet. No, I did not draw that, sillies. Someday you may see my "epic" drawing skills, but today is not your lucky day.[/area]
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OMG!!!! You was playing with my best friend gandalf,,, ya he's awesomeGood and Honest wrote:Hello, fellow townspeople!
This is my first Newbie game as SE (Semi-Experienced), which means that I have already played in two games on this site. Not that I think this has made me so experienced...
There is something REALLY IMPORTANT that I must announce from the start - I have a certain playstyle which differs from what you might expect to see in a game of Mafia. My playstyle can be characterized by my username - it's Good and Honest. To better understand what I mean, I strongly suggest that you look at my first game on this forum:
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I'm saying that if we talk more we may see peoples true colour more, and we can make a better educated choice.Switz wrote:
Uh, in what way is it better to kill a townie after thinking about it real hard than quickly? Sorry to be flippant, but I'm just not sure I see your logic. Obviously it's better to think about who we lynch rather than quickly picking someone, but killing town is almost always bad, at least in normal-format games like this.drmyshottyizsik wrote:I was just getting acquainted, and bonding with the citizens of the game. Also we shouldn't be to quick to lynch, just fyi. If we kill a towny to quick it will hurt us, but if we take our time and really think it won't.#freeShotty-
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I don't try to be useful, but I think we all should try to be of use in order to kill the mafia.Prox wrote:
I thought you proposed a RQS. Was that another attempt to seem useful?drmyshottyizsik wrote:VOTE: Vote: G & H
oh and Gandalf wanted me to tell you he wishes he would have subbed into your first game sooner so he could have help be part of your first lynching.FoS drmyshottyizsik
Sorry i contradicted myself but i couldn't handle playing with G & H, weather he's mafia or not.#freeShotty-
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Three things are wrong with him. One he posts really long annoying posts that deplete the fun of the game. Two if you look at his other games his style is anti-town. and three, since he doesn't vote he is hurting us. Usually it takes 5 of 9 to lynch but right now it takes 5 of 8. If we get rid of him it will help and we will only need 4 of 8.Prox wrote:Also: thoughts on G&H, please?#freeShotty-
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Sorry about hating on G & H cause of Gandalf, but he's my best friend irl and we act in stuff together and he was just explaining to me how G & H's play style will harm the town untill he starts to vote. And yes I am tasty ... And I like being friends with people whether I'm Mafia or a Townster.
Hey, this is an important rule. Don't talk about this game outside of where it belongs, please. This is your warning.The Rules wrote: 2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it. Mafia members may communicate at night and during the confirmation stage.
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Sorry KittyMo, He reads all of my games and when he saw G & H's name he called me and warned me
:'( please don't be angry...
Not angry, I just want players to be careful about that. Talking outside of the thread can cause nasty situations (players having to replace out of multiple games, etc.)#freeShotty-
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yes i would hammer because that means others feel he would hurt the town as do I.Prox wrote:No worries, now. Let's focus. Shotty, if you HAD to pick SOMEONE to lynch RIGHT NOW, who would it be, and why?
It would have to be G & H, because he is the only one who i fear will harm the town.
silverbullet999 wrote:Prox Interesting stuff
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You ignored my question!
(he being Good in reference to what you posted...)silverbullet999 wrote:If he were to get to L-1 in the next 2 hours, you would hammer?
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Ok, here i would like to say a few things. First i want to rebut the statements made against me.Prox wrote:Recap:
Shotty is accused of
1. Buddying
2. Contradicting (several times)
3. Opportunism
4. Trying to push away suspicion (repeatedly)
The case seems to be getting more and more solid. We should discuss this more before considering pushing him to L-1 (that's when people usually claim, right?). We're only at Page 5. The mafias I've looked at usually get around page 9.
WE NEED MORE THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY FROM THOSE WHO'VE ONLY POSTED ONCE OR TWICE.
1. Buddying- since when is being nice and being friends with the town a bad thing? If all of the town hates each other then the town won't function.
2. Contradicting- I don't contradict so much as i change my mind. None of us have a rock solid case, so we all have a right to form, and reform opinions.
3. Opportunism is the conscious policy and practice of taking selfish advantage of circumstances, with little regard for principles- I have not done this. I have asked questions that better the towns understanding of each other.
4.Trying to push away suspicion- I have not tried this at all. I never said anything about anyone being mafia, i simply stated that even if G & H is a towny he will hurt the town.
Now I would like to rehash number four, but turn the tables. Prox, all you have done is tried to drive the band wagon of me being scum, thus pushing any suspicion away from you, which if you are mafia is a very very smart thing to do, but it is also the sign that you may be mafia. Also I would like to touch on number 1 a little bit. On the first day we started this game you I and Haylen played on Kongregate together. (don't worry Kitty it was strictly non-thread stuff) And actually me and Haylen were talking about it and you tried to buddy yourself right in there with us. And about number 3, this entire game you have used opportunism to do nothing but pass the buck, and gain the trust of people. And finally number 2, you said and i quote.
then you said.So, G&H, I suppose the first and most obvious question to ask before we think about lynching you for your playstyle: Are you scum?
this is very contradictory and it also proves that you were trying to buddy up or form an "alliance". So, finaly my point. By your theory of those four points equaling mafia. You sir = MafiaEither way, I'm not really asking for a claim. I don't care as much about his role, as I do his alliance. Or is there not a difference?
Prox is accused of
1. Buddying
2. Contradicting (several times)
3. Opportunism
4. Trying to push away suspicion (repeatedly)
5. And Being a hypocrite
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He didn't influence how i played he simply asked me to read your past games to get a feel for you play style. Ironicly it was the same game you posted a link to.Good and Honest wrote:
drmyshottyizsik, it's great that gandalf5166 is your best friend (gandalf5166, if you're reading this: Hi!), but I don't think it's a good idea to let anyone, even your best friend, influence the way you're playing in this game.
Ok about this, my play style is strange, kind of like yours. I am on the fence about you right now, but I'm not getting a scum read from you, just a bit of anti-town, but this morning i went and reread your play style and looked at one of your past game and realized that you aren't anti-town you just want to be 100% sure that your choice is correct unless you are need for the game to continue.Good and Honest wrote: There is something that seems strange to me. I have already cited you saying: "Also we shouldn't be to quick to lynch, just fyi. If we kill a towny to quick it will hurt us, but if we take our time and really think it won't.". I certainly agree with this. But later, when asked by silverbullet999, you say that if in the next 2 hours you have the opportunity to cast the final vote to lynch me, you'll do it! I'm especially baffled by this because it has already been said here how bad it was for the town in my first game that I was lynched so quickly...
He said something I very much agreed with.Good and Honest wrote:By the way, I have absolutely no problems with drmyshottyizsik's wanting to be friendly - this depends on one's character. I also like a friendly atmosphere when I'm playing a game.
Prox notes that drmyshottyizsik has said "Thanks Haylen". I looked at the context and I was confused. drmyshottyizsik, while I don't mind your thanking any player, why exactly were you thanking Haylen in this case?
Ok here's my case against Hinduragi, he made some valid points, but he's posted to confirm, to rvs me, to apologize for working, and to dis me. And I can't say as much against him, but what i can say is that when he's says i was bonding with people, yes i bond. I AM A BONDER! It's how i play. I like having good relations with everyone. And when he said that I am trying to get rid of the heat on me. Yes I am, and so is anyone who is L-2, but all he has been doing is laying the heat on me thicker. Maybe he is mafia and saw an opportunity to get a innocent person lynched and is pushing it really hard and is getting his partner Prox to help.Good and Honest wrote: Prox summarized several points against drmyshottyizsik and then drmyshottyizsik used the same points against Prox. For me the most important thing here was what drmyshottyizsik DIDN'T do - didn't attack Hinduragi, who was the one to present a detailed case against drmyshottyizsik.
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My point of that "attack" on you was not to attack you it was to prove how silly your claims were. ANDDDDDD, being friendly IS NOT BAD!!
First off, I only spent time acting friendly during the pre-game: not when things started to get serious.
ok i did miss understand you here, but you just contradicted your self again. You just explained how ask for his alliance is like asking for a claim,,,,,, but earlier you have repeatedly said you didn't ask for a claim.I never contradicted myself. Alliance is defined as Scum/Town/3rd-Party. Role is like Doc/Cop/Godfather/etc. I think you misunderstood me. I was asking G&H about his alliance, since he said he would always be truthful.
I used the exact same points on you that you used on me. I used logical points to defend myself and then attack you. So if you are calling me scummy, then you have a problem with yourself.If you call defending myself logically and then attacking another person using perfectly valid points scummy, then I have a problem with you.
You didn't explain anything about opportunism. Btw, when I say opportunism I mean that you went after G&H because it was the easy thing to do.
I am going after you and this isn't easy at all. You are the one who has it easy trying to attack me.
And with this message what did you do??????? You lashed out at me for attacking you *gasp* hypocrite!! If you attack me I will attack back, it's how it works man.All in all, your attack is weak, and seems to be you lashing out at me for attacking you (OMGUS).
I bond, i don't buddy up . Buddying up is choosing a single buddy to befriend and share blame with.Bonding is not pro-town. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Buddying_Up
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Ok I'd like to clear a few things up. First of all Prox is the one who I think is scum. Second, the only reason i went after G & H is because i believe he may hurt the town, I get no scum read from him at all. Also you all seem to believe that my attack on Prox was one in which i was trying to get everyone to turn on him, but truly I just wanted to show how ludicrous his accusations are. He has no solid case on me and I have no solid case on him.
@ Switz- I understand were you are coming from on all of this. You see two guys fighting over points and you simply read and give your input and i appreciate that.
@ Everyone- At this point in time three people have really been tested, and ridiculed, and questions. I think that we need to get to know Switz, Haylen, Hinduragi, and silver bullet a bit better.
And i apologize for my signature, but i just wanted to make a point, I shall change it.#freeShotty-
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I think this is said question. You're right not everyone has posted yet, and I'm not going to end the day so early. And about G & H's actions/intentions. The reason i semi-want him out is because I want to stop his intentions before they turn to actions.Why would you be willing to end the day so incredibly early? We have quite awhile to gather info on everyone... there are still people who haven't posted yet... and G&H's actions (not intentions) in my mind haven't really given me room for judgement yet.. also there still are two people that haven't even posted yet!#freeShotty-
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Ok G & H, what i meant by on the fence was i was trying to get a scum read on, which i did not... at all. But yes i do dislike your playstyle but I am done going after you, i also realized that i need to focus on finding mafia not getting rid of someone i dislike. I am definitly getting a scum team from prox and switz. You see the only reason switz defends prox is because prox is throwing himself out there and realying on switz to back him up. If switz started getting attack I would almost be certian that prox would defend him. But prox is smart he isn't drawing atention to him and switz being together, because switz is doing that enough. Well those are my views
SCUM TEAM: Prox and Switz.#freeShotty-
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UNVOTE:archaebob wrote:vote hinduragi
Hate to break it you, but I can see right through you bud.
Jeez, your terrified, aren't you? I can almost feel your fingers physically trembling as you write this. This type of nervous energy, of way overdoing your efforts to sound logical and consistent and unabrasive is text-book, and I meanHinduragi wrote:Again, this sounds like you're putting heat off yourself. I'm just going to come out and say what Shotty is trying to do. No, this is not intended to be anything against him. In fact, I'd like to give him some posts to defend himself because so far any post that, in my opinion, has content, has been about Shotty. In fact, it feels like everyone is ganging up on him ever since I posted my case. I noticed that Switz had a giant of a post. Then, after discussing, as G&H said, "drmyshottyizsik versus Prox", he had a paragraph and a half or so of other things to discuss. This leads me to believe we should have a more active discussion about other fellow players before someone even considers moving Shotty to L-1. Shotty, I think you're in the right here that we should all get to know each other a little better. Unfortunately, I have nothing to contribute to the actions of achieving this. Suggestions would be welcomed.text-bookscum. How many times in this post do you say something, and then immediately qualify it to make sure you haven't left yourself open to attack? A lot.
Do you really think you're fooling anybody with these long winded self-analyzing speeches? I can see exactly what you're trying to do: you keep qualifying and requalifying your opinion, explaining absolutely every little detail of everything so that your utterly fake attempts to make it seem like you actually suspect someone sound logical.
It's ok, it's a common newbie mistake to make as scum. Unfortunately for you, you're now completely outed, and will definitely be lynched in one of the next two days.
Now let's find out who your partner is.
@ everybody -NOBODY say anything about this post before Hinduragi does.Even if you disagree with me, you don't want to give him any ideas of how to defend himself that he doesn't already have. This is a good rule in general: you shouldn't defend somebody else until they've responded to the attack on them themselves. Otherwise they can just use what somebody else comes up with for them and avoid being caught.
Something you CAN do: if you agree with my attack, vote Hinuragi. If you disagree, vote me. In either case, don't explain why, just drop the vote. NOTE OF CAUTION: Please try super hard not to lynch either of us, as we're just getting warmed up here with this whole scumhunting thing.
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BUT when we do the same to you you over protect yourself!Hinduragi wrote:I assure you, I am not the one laying any heat on you. You are responsible for your own actions. The heat was already there. I just pointed it out to present my reasons for keeping my vote on you.#freeShotty-
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1)Prox, Switz, Hinduragiarchaebob wrote: 1) Who are your top three suspects for scum? And don't give me a "I don't know" answer, if you HAD to pick three people to die right now, with the hopes that you could win the game, who would you pick? I'm interested in your gut reads, not your convoluted attempts to answer this question logically.
2) Who in this game do you think has been the towniest so far? Why? Feel free to be as logical and indulgently self-analyzing as you want with this one.
2)G & H, but it is realllllllllly hard to read him. Second would be silver because he is scum hunting, but not over scum hunting.#freeShotty-
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I know and i really wish there could be three scums... I read and re-read and re-re-read this thread and I have made my decision. And I have reasons.Good and Honest wrote: drmyshottyizsik, I noticed the remarkable relation between Prox and Switz and you immediately announced that they were mafia partners; archaebob and foilist13 made accusations against Hinduragi and you agreed with them, too...
For the first of who I think is the scum team is Prox and here's why
He asked for a claim there is no denying that he asked for a claim.... BUT when he people called him out on it he saidSo, G&H, I suppose the first and most obvious question to ask before we think about lynching you for your playstyle: Are you scum?
NO there is not a difference! Asking hey are you scum or hey do you belong to the scum team makes no difference.Either way, I'm not really asking for a claim. I don't care as much about his role, as I do his alliance. Or is there not a difference?
Next thing about Prox
BUT THEN WAIT!! He totally says something different here.I can see how that'll hurt the town in the long run. unvote; vote Good & Honest
Ok so here he says this as if he assumes G & H is scum but then says there's nothing scummy about him. Hmmmmmm... Why would you do that Prox? Ok so yes he would be a less dangerous scum, but he would be a more dangerous towny! Here, to me, it seems like Prox is thinking from the stand point of a mafioso. After saying it would hurt the town, he switches his view point and starts to not care for about the town.G&H's promise not to vote would make him a less dangerous scum. That, along with the fact that his playstyle is the only currently wrong thing about him, makes me want to decide not to lynch him.
Next on my list is this quote
This issue sparked up some fire later in the thread, but lets look at it from Prox's point of view as he wrote it.Recap:
Shotty is accused of
1. Buddying
2. Contradicting (several times)
3. Opportunism
4. Trying to push away suspicion (repeatedly)
The case seems to be getting more and more solid. We should discuss this more before considering pushing him to L-1 (that's when people usually claim, right?). We're only at Page 5. The mafias I've looked at usually get around page 9.
(what i think happened.) Prox- "Oh look Hinduragi posted a really big bad thing about Shotty hmmmm... what should I do? Oh wait since i have nothing new to say and I am scum I will reiterate what hindu said and put it in a fancy list format so people will read it agree with me and vote him instead of ME!!! hahahahahahaha lawlz."
NextI call OMGUS
First off this was pretty far into the game (his second to last post btw) and an OMGUS is either
A. If you are mafia- mafia members may use OMGUS votes to throw a random vote out without raising suspicion.
Or B. If you are a towny- Townies use an OMGUS as a random vote close to the start of a game to get discussion started.
LETS ALL THINK. Which did he do? *lightbulb* A!!!
Ok thats what i have on Prox, the person I think is his partner will be revealed in my next post.#freeShotty-
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The person I believe is his partned is *drum roll please*
I'm not sure. I read both Switz and Hinduragi's post and it seems to me that Switz simply calls it as he sees it, and Hindu is focusing on pressuring me and trying to get me to slip up.
I find neither of these all that scummy they just both make me angry when ever someone attacks me. Honestly if i had to pick right now i would put my vote at Foilist. He immediately attacked Hinduragi, then switched to G & H, I mean its one thing to scum hunt, but to all out try to destroy two people in 11 posts is a little over the top.#freeShotty-
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Prox wrote:
Bull. The point of your attack was to attack me for attacking you. If it wasn't an attack meant to attack me, why did you vote for me? Please note that the bulk of your "attack" on me was focused on using the same points I did against you.shotty wrote:My point of that "attack" on you was not to attack you it was to prove how silly your claims were.
You said the points were silly...I used the exact same points on you that you used on me. I used logical points to defend myself and then attack you. So if you are calling me scummy, then you have a problem with yourself.You said the points were silly...
You said the points were silly...
You said the points were silly...
You said the points were silly...!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly!! I attack you using the same logic that you used against me, neither of us had a valid point, thus silly.
And I voted for you because of the same logic that you voted for me.#freeShotty-
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