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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:46 am

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Nyeh, well, that was odd. It was a fun concept, I think. Surprised the mafia killed me since I was coming off as scummy near the end there, and my activity really was much lower than usual. Either way, it was a good game and I love a game that gets down to F3. Fun to watch the tension crackling.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:30 am

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I didn't think Caboose was scum, but Empking was obviously not going to vote himself, and I figured that it wouldn't hurt us as long as there was no Mafia A. Unfortunately, Seraphim decided I was Mafia at some point, which made 0 sense, considering that I said that Sens and him were opposite alignments and Sens turned out to be scum.

If we had just ignored roles and lynched whoever was most suspicious though, it definitely would have been Kinetic based on Caboose/Seraphim's play. Sigh. Whatever.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:49 am

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Holy crap. Good work Kinetic! Can not believe you pulled that out for us. I will go ahead and nominate you for some scummies, that was a great performance you did when your predecessors did you no favors.

Sens also did good getting someone besides himself lynched.

Great work Caboose too, vigging 2/3 of the mafia was damn good. I actually thought Yaw was a PGO, didn't realize it could be a vig.

I thought this was a good game, it was a nail biter the last few days. Thanks for modding PJ!
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:56 am

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Electra wrote:I didn't think Caboose was scum, but Empking was obviously not going to vote himself, and I figured that it wouldn't hurt us as long as there was no Mafia A. Unfortunately, Seraphim decided I was Mafia at some point, which made 0 sense, considering that I said that Sens and him were opposite alignments and Sens turned out to be scum.

If we had just ignored roles and lynched whoever was most suspicious though, it definitely would have been Kinetic based on Caboose/Seraphim's play. Sigh. Whatever.
You know, please, don't blame me for thinking you were scummy. It was really the AoE at the end that made me vote for you, while Kinetic had laid out, quite nicely, some logical points.

I made a mistake. your play made me think you were scum. *shrugs* I suppose this has been a rather humbling expierence...I thought that Electra was scum, and rather than listening to facts, I tunnel-visioned her until she died. Which turned out to be our loss.

Oh well. Good game, Mafia! You had me fooled the entire time. XP
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:33 pm

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Seraphim wrote:
Electra wrote:I didn't think Caboose was scum, but Empking was obviously not going to vote himself, and I figured that it wouldn't hurt us as long as there was no Mafia A. Unfortunately, Seraphim decided I was Mafia at some point, which made 0 sense, considering that I said that Sens and him were opposite alignments and Sens turned out to be scum.

If we had just ignored roles and lynched whoever was most suspicious though, it definitely would have been Kinetic based on Caboose/Seraphim's play. Sigh. Whatever.
You know, please, don't blame me for thinking you were scummy. It was really the AoE at the end that made me vote for you, while Kinetic had laid out, quite nicely, some logical points.

I made a mistake. your play made me think you were scum. *shrugs* I suppose this has been a rather humbling expierence...I thought that Electra was scum, and rather than listening to facts, I tunnel-visioned her until she died. Which turned out to be our loss.

Oh well. Good game, Mafia! You had me fooled the entire time. XP
Don't feel too bad Sera. I left you around instead of Emp for a multitude of reasons, chiefly, the fact that you relied a little too heavily on logic, something I was banking on.

Even though Emp called me townie, I really couldn't get into his head, and I thought he was a bigger risk. But by killing him, I also had yet another out, Wifommy as it was. "Empking called me town, obv if I was scum I'd want him around".

What it came down to was that I gave you too much information. Information overload if you will. The whole point of that was "Look at everything I'm giving you, if I were scum would I say so much?" But in reality it was "This is everything I'm giving you... but what am I leaving out?" And at the same time I played a Magicians game. Look at my right hand and ignore what my left hand is doing.

I think if some people were a little more critical of my motives (i.e. If I was scum, what would I know), and a little more critical of everything I gave you (i.e. Well he says that IF there is a Mafia A/SK then Caboose must be it, but what if there isn't...) You guys might have unveiled me.

Caboose didn't help himself with lying on Day 2 at all. It made his full vig claim unbelievable and untestable if he was a SK. His own assurance that there was a Mafia A also tanked his own case against Empking that he was Mafia A, ironically.

In that situation Caboose should have realized there could not be a Mafia A unless he was in it, and should have pushed for either a lynch of myself of Electra. Both of which would have most likely won the game for town. Caboose could have lynched one, then killed the other, and no matter WHAT I did, the game would have been lost to me.

Additionally EVEN if he was SK, in that situation it would STILL be Emp/Sera/Him in end game and Emp/Sera would know he was SK if that happened. If he brought that point up, town might have won.

I thought the reasons behind him not doing that were, honestly, him being a Serial Killer. If he brought that stuff up, he was as good as dead as a SK.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:37 pm

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So, why was I killed?
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:15 pm

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Seraphim wrote:
You know, please, don't blame me for thinking you were scummy. It was really the AoE at the end that made me vote for you, while Kinetic had laid out, quite nicely, some logical points.

I made a mistake. your play made me think you were scum. *shrugs* I suppose this has been a rather humbling expierence...I thought that Electra was scum, and rather than listening to facts, I tunnel-visioned her until she died. Which turned out to be our loss.

Oh well. Good game, Mafia! You had me fooled the entire time. XP
I will blame you for thinking that I'm scummy, thanks. :p It's not your fault that we lose though. The town was pretty sucky except for Caboose.

People just need to realize that I'm never scum if they think I'm scum. When I'm scum I just get nightkilled. There's no need to lynch me ever.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:20 pm

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Caboose wrote:You acted extremely anti-town near the end of D1. You didn't vote, which is a HUGE scumtell. You also looked like you were trying to just coast through D1.
I didn't want to go after anyone and then change my mind the next day about it. And plus, I didn't vote because I didn't the candidates up for lynch for scum. As well, SSK was an easy lynch so I didn't want to lynch him that day.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:41 pm

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Electra wrote:I didn't think Caboose was scum, but Empking was obviously not going to vote himself, and I figured that it wouldn't hurt us as long as there was no Mafia A. Unfortunately, Seraphim decided I was Mafia at some point, which made 0 sense, considering that I said that Sens and him were opposite alignments and Sens turned out to be scum.

If we had just ignored roles and lynched whoever was most suspicious though, it definitely would have been Kinetic based on Caboose/Seraphim's play. Sigh. Whatever.
Then what the hell did you hammer me for?!
Additionally EVEN if he was SK, in that situation it would STILL be Emp/Sera/Him in end game and Emp/Sera would know he was SK if that happened. If he brought that point up, town might have won.
I believe I did bring up that point.

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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:42 pm

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ShadowGirl wrote:
Caboose wrote:You acted extremely anti-town near the end of D1. You didn't vote, which is a HUGE scumtell. You also looked like you were trying to just coast through D1.
I didn't want to go after anyone and then change my mind the next day about it. And plus, I didn't vote because I didn't the candidates up for lynch for scum. As well, SSK was an easy lynch so I didn't want to lynch him that day.
Well, my vig of you actually wasn't a misvig. While you weren't scum, you were anti-town, which is the closest thing there is to scum.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:16 pm

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Very true, very true. xD;

I was just surprised I got vigged/killed so fast. Though, I believe someone attempted to protect me?
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:20 pm

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Wow, this game looks really well-designed. Good job, PJ.
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