Open 56 - Masons and Monks (GAME OVER) before 542

[kuribo]

vote: Kabenon007

dunno what your name means, but james bond was 007

[kuribo]

Can we please get back on the track of finding scum?

[kuribo]

The asshattedness is annoying me.

Flameaxe, why do you insist on derailing this game?

[kuribo]

The asshattedness is annoying me.

Flameaxe, why do you insist on derailing this game?

Why are you not calling kabenon on derailing as well? Why are you not mentioning my derailing - albeit to a lesser extent - behaviour?

Because I'm already random-voting on kabenon, (which will stay put for the time being, as noted below) but as you mention--- both of you have been doing it to a far lesser extent than flameaxe.

While all three of you have contributed to the asshaterization of this game, for my money, Flameaxe is the worst offender.

Although, Kabenon, your OMGUS reaction to my random vote is fairly interesting to me, and your reasoning behind it is shaky at best.

While I've got your attention, Kabenon, why did you feel the need to speculate about Draux? How can you possibly know how he behaves toward his partner?

[kuribo]

While all three of you have contributed to the asshaterization of this game, for my money, Flameaxe is the worst offender.

I demand proof, because omitting a joke post or two, I have done nothing of the sort.

Omitting your joke posts, as you put it, results in the following:

1 random vote,
1 "random" vote against Oman, just because he was here,
Unexplained vote against thinktank,
Questions regarding how you're derailing the game.

Gee, I don't know, is that proof enough? Disregarding the votes and your last two posts, the only things you've said refer to parts of your anatomy or how bandwagoning you is always scummy.

This is exactly why I chose to vote kuribo. He seems to be trying to hard to find scum. Like, trying to hard to be town. I find that the people who try to derail the fun are usually the scum trying to act like townies. At the very least, he is the scummiest at the moment, so that is where my vote will rest.

Yes, it's so scummy that I'm trying to smoke out the scum. Way to go, captain logic.

"Too Townie" is a moot point, you'll always get scum that acts super-townie, and you'll always get townies that act scummy. Then you have everyone in between. I could just as easily say that you act so scummy that there's no WAY you're scum. So, you see how stupid that argument is.

[kuribo]

My posts regarding anatomy explained that vote.

That's just it, it didn't explain anything--- you could at least share with us why you have a hunch that thinktank is scum.

[kuribo]

Also: post 53.

See? That's much better. Was that so hard?

[kuribo]

Well, I'm kind of indignant that he keeps defending me. I don't think I need him to defend me, I can defend myself just fine. Now that you mention it, it kind of seems like something I would do to lead up to a false scumbuddy. Make the town think that my scum partner was a townie. He is avoiding questions, no doubt about that. I'm just inherently suspicious of people who defend me, even if it's true, cuz it seems like they are just setting me up to take a fall for them later. If that makes sense. It makes sense in my head at least.

Alot of your argument is hypothetical, though, and you have no way of knowing whether Oman would defend you for whatever reason. I don't like the speculation of "If I was scum..." and it also sounds like you're trying too hard to remove a possible link later on down the line. IE, if Oman did turn out to be scum, you've already tried to raise the possibility that he's setting you up as a false scum buddy.

[kuribo]

1. You are

Vote: JDodge

You can't know that he's scum. That's pretty scummy to accuse someone of being scum without really good information.

And for the record, based on my experience playing with JDodge, he does that alot. Fun fact--- in the Baby Too Much scum game that just finished, he was right.

[kuribo]

Alot of your argument is hypothetical, though, and you have no way of knowing whether Oman would defend you for whatever reason

.

The exact same could be said of your argument that Oman is my scum buddy.

Show me where I said Oman was your scum buddy.

Now you're just making stuff up to suit your defense.

[kuribo]

I inferred it from post 137. You can't tell me that you weren't implying that's what you meant. You may not have said it explicitly, but it was implied. By bringing up the fact of a "possibly link" that means you yourself thought of said link. So I perhaps put a bit more emphasis on it than you, but oh well.

I said IF, IF, IF.

I don't have to IMPLY anything. If I think you and Oman are scum buddies, I will tell you. For the record, I don't yet think OMAN is scum.

Stop "inferring" my meaning, and post your defense on what I'm actually saying instead of stretching it to fit your interpretation.

[kuribo]

kuribo:

How was it that you thought Flameaxe was derailing the game. I found Jdoge, flameaxe, and pwayne66 just being silly. Why did you name one and not all 3 if you were annoyed.

Because after the rest of us had started with more seriousness, he tried to start the whole esophagus / ass-hattery thing up again.

I will say that Flameaxe's contribution has been much better lately.

[kuribo]

Kabenon, let me reiterate. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being definitely Town and 10 being definitely Scum, where would you put Oman's Scumminess?

Why did you ask for him specifically? Hm.

Kuribo, I will infer as much as I wish to infer from your posts. If we just went by what was said literally, it would be much harder to catch the scums. Therefore, we must dig into the posts and infer from them the information which was being hidden from us, should there be any. Any information not implicitly stated is automatically discarded for you? Fantastic. That's sarcasm by the way.

Of course you can't discard the "hidden" meaning of posts, but there's a difference between discerning the meaning and putting words in someone's mouth.

And the part about "Any information not implicitly stated" seems like a bit of reductio ad absurdum.

[kuribo]

LP is at around almost slightly underneath an 8.

Am I the only one that doesn't find this arbitrary scale-of-one-to-ten helpful?

Also, Kabenon and Oman may not be partners (I doubt they are) but let's not forget that we have two, two, TWO scumgroups for the price of one. (If we call now maybe they'll send us a third scumgroup... ABSOLUTELY FREE!) Scumgroups not available in stores.

[kuribo]

Well, I don't like assigning a number to a person's scum factor, especially cuz they change so often. But in good faith I did so. Don't like it, but did it anyway.

I never did like it when people act like they were "pushed" into doing things they didn't want to do.

[kuribo]

Forgive me if I don't give the previous post any credit whatsoever, as you wouldn't like anything I do.

Not entirely true. I'd like it if you'd not be scum.

[kuribo]

Why would you like it if I wouldn't be scum? That would make me townie, and that would mean you are pushing the lynch of a townie... got something to confess?

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having heard it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

It'd be nice if you weren't scum, sure, but since you are, we just have to lynch you.

[kuribo]

epic phail.

FTW!

are you from fark or 4chan? those are the only places i can think of where people still think those phrases are funny

[kuribo]

kiribo, what evidence do you have against oman?

I'm not after Oman, I'm after Kabenon, pay attention!

[kuribo]

You say I'm defending you throughout when its clear to anyone reading the thread I attacked JD voting you on one point and then attacked your shitty falacy.

I'm so close to voting you but I feel you're just a stupid townie who is being paranoid.

Find me where I defend you. Quote it. Lets work with proof and I'll go toe to toe with you and see who's what.

Grow some balls and vote! Enough with testing the waters. If you're going to vote him, vote him, if you're not, then don't!

I hate when people say "I could vote..." or "I want to vote..."

[kuribo]

Everyone in this game is scum but me.

Game solved, I win.

[kuribo]

Pwayne just popped in, but voted for scum, so thats :goodpoints:

Yes, it's always town when people lurk and step in to jump on a bandwagon.

[kuribo]

But the wagon is on scum, and i didn't mention the word "town" once.

Unless you have some special knowledge that the rest of us townfolk don't, how do you know?

And why defend a lurker just because he votes against someone you want him to?

[kuribo]

JDodge, try to keep up. I am not speculating on cop existence, I am pointing out that that is probably what TylerJ is thinking

well, yeah but you get into problems when you speculate what others are thinking.

right now, i'm speculating that you're thinking "man, am i one clever scum!"

[kuribo]

right, so why don't you know that there is no cop, and therefore no day cop?

Maybe some of us missed this.

WE KNOW BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN SETUP.

Just get lynched already, scum! YEESH!

[kuribo]

EBWOP: Nevermind, I'm an idiot who just woke up.

[kuribo]

My lack of adding... but it's there, and therefore not lacking... you're just spamming now JD. But keep reaching. I enjoy seeing you flounder about.

you're so scummy it ain't even funny





theres a little rhyme for you

[kuribo]

Can we please do this right this time?

Vote: Kabenon007

[kuribo]

You know, the fact that both scumgroups went after JDodge makes me think he was on to something and they had to shut him up.

Unvote, Vote: thinktank

[kuribo]

@kuribo:

If you are going to use the statement that jdodge was onto something then the vote should be on kabenon007. Here was his last statement before the day ended.

Well, Tyler, that was extremely scummy. We wanted LP to claim, not die.

actually i wanted him to claim then most likely die

your lack of adding "not die" in

when you yourself were on the lynching wagon

tells me that your intention was probably that of rooting out masons/monks and thus you are scum

but we already knew that

I looked and he thought scum group kabenon/ Oman or LP. I think the smart bet was to stay with Kabenon007.

Vote: Kabenon007

Yeah, but he was also pushing the thinktank wagon, too.

[kuribo]

Vote Kuribo

wagon jumping, No?

Hardly. And that's a stretch.

I didn't think you were scum, before, but now I'm not so sure.

[kuribo]

Does it really matter which wagon I'm on as long as we get one of those scum? The whole reason the mislynch went down was because we have too many strong scum suspects, and TylerJ decided to hammer. Our bandwagons have been split, with several people getting about half the votes.

I've chosen to deal with the former problem, until Tyler comes around to explain himself.

[kuribo]

When I reread I found that LP was infact scummy. I didn't think about letting him claim because it just wasn't on my mind.
I regret making a rash decision on the vote, I realize I should have waited for a claim and thought about it a little more, but what is done is done.

How could you have not thought about letting him claim, when he had been ASKED to claim?

And thinktank, if you go back and look, I wasn't on the LP bandwagon.

[kuribo]

And I hardly call it "bandwagon hopping" when for the duration of the game, my vote has rested on either Kabenon or (until just now) thinktank.

FoS: Oman

[kuribo]

Go Go OMGUS FoSes!

Don't try to make it something it's not. It's suspicious when you try to toss BS on someone like you did.

[kuribo]

You wagon jumped, I called you, you FoSed me?

Gotta love logic.

Yes, I jumped from one strong suspect to the other, because the rest of the town got sidetracked and lynched a townie last night.

So what?

[kuribo]

Yesterday, not last night.

[kuribo]

You wagon jumped, I called you, you FoSed me?

Gotta love logic.

Yes, I jumped from one strong suspect to the other, because the rest of the town got sidetracked and lynched a townie last night.

So what?

You went from Kabennon to me this game day because LP was lynched last gameday? That makes absolutely zero sense. Because you thought the town was being distracted THE DAY AFTER LP GOT LYNCHED you switched votes? The two statements are completely unrelated.

P.S I know you corrected yourself however "and lynched a townie last night" really bugs me. It just screams out Freudian slip and convinces me further that you are scum.

Surprise surprise.

[kuribo]

Yes, I jumped from one strong suspect to the other, because the rest of the town got sidetracked and lynched a townie last night.

Nevermind.

Kuribo, what does this mean?

Exactly what I said?

While I was trying to get Kabenon lynched, and JDodge was trying to get thinktank lynched, the rest of you managed to ignore the scumminess of those two and somehow let the scum get LP lynched instead.

As for thinktank surprisingly calling what I said a Freudian slip, I think that's pretty stupid--- LP wasn't killed at night, and lynches don't happen at night.

thinktank, Oman and Kabenon are scum.

[kuribo]

Pwayne just popped in, but voted for scum, so thats :goodpoints:

Remember when you said that, regarding LP? Hm....

[kuribo]

Kuribo: I understand that LP wasn't lynched at night, but JDodge was lynched at night and he was a townie and hence my remark towards "lynched a townie last night" as a slip.

I can understandably see why someone would want to vote Tyler J, Flameaxe or Kabennon, infact I was doing it myself during say one but at this point Kuribo is definitely more of a scum threat then either of the two. BTW we were not getting sidetracked lynching LP, yes there were strong scum candidates but LP definitely acting in a scummy manner, just read his posts.

But I wasn't referring to JDodge, I was referring to LP, I thought that was clear?

Anyway, LP wasn't nearly as scummy as you or Kabenon, which is why it's so frustrating.

[kuribo]

but JDodge was lynched at night

This is weird to me. Who refers to night killings as lynches?

People who are stretching to take suspicion off themselves.

[kuribo]

don;t you find it a LITTLE odd that Kuribo was pushing Kabennon all of day one and he suddenly switches votes claiming switching between strong scum suspects which is completely bs, and then the other reason based on the JDodge nightkill, which is also BS.

You only think that because you're one of the strong suspects.

[kuribo]

Read Kuribo's comments once again, he is scum. Once again the fact that your concentrating on thsi issue on such incredibly poor evidence is shcoking when there a boatload of better information. You want someone whos changed their story, changed their mind? Look at Kuribo at the beginning of this day when he randomly switched between kabennon and me.

It wasn't random, and whichever one of you two gets lynched is fine with me.

And unlike you folks, I wasn't on LP's townie-lynching bandwagon yesterday. You're going to have a hard time shifting suspicion onto me just because I changed votes *once.*

[kuribo]

Flameaxe, regardless of whether you caught scum or not, you are being an idiot.

Unvote Vote Flameaxe

I have a feeling you're trying to do a meta-play.

Now who's bandwagon jumping, scum?

[kuribo]

I still think the TylerJ wagon is scum trying to push another townie into a lynch.

[kuribo]

At this point from Kuribo's actions during day one I firmly believe he is scum and his partner could be Kabennon because at the beginning of the day he switched votes from Kabennon quite abrubtly. Perhaps so later in the game he can claim that he did attack kabennon vigorously at the beginning of them game to prevent such arguments as the one you argued against me. As for the second scum pair? It is difficult to call because this game has slowed to such an extent that there simply isn't condemning evidence one way or the other for many players.

Don't try to discredit me just because I've shifted my focus to you, scum.

I didn't hear you crying "bussing" yesterday when I was going after him.

[kuribo]

Kuribo, don't make my argument into something its not. I'm not "crying" because you shifted focus onto me, my argument is as I said before. You just suddenly decided to switch votes, the fact that it was me is irrelevant to the fact that you did, you could have switched to any of the other players and I would still have an argument against it. I don't have anything against the fact that you went after Kabennon, I can see why you would, what my concern is how quickly you just switched votes at the beginning of the day on what seems like night kill logic.

So, I switch votes once---- ONCE... and yet Oman does so several times and you keep quiet?

I call shenanigoats.

[kuribo]

Your argument has persuaded me.

Unvote Vote thinktank

As I said before,

Now who's vote hopping?

[kuribo]

Okay, context. You accuse flameaxe and... vote thinktank?

[kuribo]

You missed the AIM PMs

Note: this is a joke

You missed a lot.

He was kidding, I don't think joke posts count as wagon hopping.

oh stop defending your scumbuddy

[kuribo]

you two keep jumping to each other's defenses. it's sad, really.

[kuribo]

Btw mod, whats happening with the Thugbehram replacement? and can we please get a prod on Kabennon and Kuribo, they haven't posted in a while.

It's only been two days for me, so don't even try to make it look like I'm not around.

[kuribo]

Only that I think it's funny that after I accused Oman of defending his "scumbuddy," (as I put it), thinktank, they turned on one another.

Wonder what that's about, hmm?

[kuribo]

god dang it. go town.

[kuribo]

See? You people should have listened to me. I was on to Kabenon from the get-go and even had outed his partner as thinktank.

[kuribo]

Good question. I believe it was I was trying to kill someone who wasn't attacking me, so it wouldn't incriminate me.

I can understand that, especially after I picked up on the reasoning behind JDodge's NK. And honestly, after I got killed off, I was surprised that the rest of the town didn't question you guys further.


Was it just dumb luck that scum hit both masons in one night?