Mini 560: Methodical Mafia 2 -- GAME OVER


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Mini 560: Methodical Mafia 2 -- GAME OVER

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:26 pm

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Mini 560: Methodical Mafia 2


STATUS: Game Over!


"Though this be madness, yet there is method in't." - Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2

Welcome to the little town of Metodico, where all the residents do everything in a most methodical, orderly fashion. A little while ago, the Mafia moved in and threatened to take over. So the residents of Metodico adopted their usual methods and defeated them. Now, however, it seems that the Mafia are making a comeback. So it falls upon the good people of Metodico to stand up once again and lynch the malefactors. Methodically.


Players
:
  • andersonw
  • Ectomancer
  • Max
  • Nocmen
  • Oman (replaced Adele)
  • opie
  • Sarcastro
  • Shy Guy
  • Skruffs (replaced springlullaby)
  • Thesp
  • VanDamien
  • Yosarian2
Links: Vote counts -- Final result
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:34 pm

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Rules of Methodical Mafia 2


The Setup

[01] The basic setup is: 3 Mafia and 9 Townies.
[02] The game consists of two phases. First: Day 0, when discussion and voting take place. Second: the subsequent days, during which the game is resolved.
[03] Before the end of Day 0, every player must post, in the thread, a ballot for use in the subsequent days. A ballot consists of a list of every other player (i.e. 11 names) listed from most scummy to least scummy.
[04] Every day starting with Day 1, there will be an election using the ballots posted on Day 0. Whoever "wins" the election will be lynched. The next day there will be a new election using the surviving players' ballots. This will continue, until one faction has won.

Day 0 (discussion and voting)

[05] The deadline for Day 0 will be secret and random, but once everyone has confirmed I will announce the window within which the deadline will fall.
[06] During Day 0, everyone must post a ballot. A ballot must comply with the following rules: (i) it must contain the name of every other player in the game (i.e. 11 names), listed in the order that you would like those players lynched -- with your first choice at the top; (ii) each name must be spelled out correctly in full -- no nicknames or abbreviations -- and capitalisation must be correct; (iii) each name must appear on a new line; (iv) the list must appear in

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 tags; (v) there must be no other formatting in the list.
[07] If you do not format your ballot correctly, I will ignore it. If you repeatedly format your ballot incorrectly, I will replace you.
[08] You may re-post a new ballot as often as you like. I will only count the last (correctly formatted) ballot that you post.

[b]Day 1 and following[/b]
[09] From Day 1, the game will proceed like a normal Mafia game (except that the thread will remain locked). There will be no nights.
[10] Each day, I will count all ballots according to the system known as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting]Single Transferable Vote or Instant Run-off Voting[/url]. The winner of the poll will be lynched.
[11] The next day, I will conduct a new poll among the survivors, ignoring any votes for dead players. This will continue until one side has fulfilled its win condition.

[b]Tiebreaker rules[/b] 
[12] STV/IRV sometimes requires ties to be resolved. I'll follow the tiebreaker rules below, but it may happen that I need to devise further tiebreaker rules. In that case I will devise an ad hoc rule. I doubt that this will be necessary. (See [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=950059#950059]this post[/url] for further details.)
[13] If there is a tie for the candidate with the fewest votes (after I have eliminated all players with no votes), I will eliminate all those with the fewest votes -- UNLESS that would leave just one candidate remaining. In the latter case, I will eliminate the candidate with the fewest votes in the previous round.
[14] If all candidates not eliminated have the same number of votes, I will eliminate the player with the fewest votes in the previous round.

[b]Win Conditions[/b]
[15] The Town wins if all the Mafia are lynched.
[16] The Mafia win if (a) all the Townies are lynched; or (b) only 2 players remain alive, one of whom is Mafia.
[17] The game will not end in any other case (including, for example, if there are 2 Mafia and 2 Townies; or even 2 Mafia and 1 Townie). Even the Mafia in this village are methodical.

[b]Role PMs[/b]
[18]The Role PMs look like this:[quote="To the 9 Townies I"]Role: Townie

Please read the Rules very carefully and then confirm in the thread.[/quote][quote="To the 3 Mafia I"]Role: Mafia.

The Mafia in this game are: XXX, XXX, XXX. You may talk to each other outside the thread from now until the end of Day 0.

Please read the Rules very carefully and then confirm in the thread.[/quote]

[b]General Rules[/b]
[19] The game is not to be discussed outside the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so. The Mafia may talk throughout Day 0.
[20] You may not use [code] tags except for posting your ballot.
[21] No small text or any other form of hidden/obscured text. Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts either.
[22] If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate -– don’t leave us hanging.
[23] Unlike other mods I am fallible. Please point out any mistakes I make gently. In particular, if I post a summary of ballots that does not accurately reflect your ballot, it is your responsibility to correct me. If you don’t your ballot may be treated as it appears in the summary.
[24] If you have any questions at all, please PM me or post the question in the thread.
[25] Remember, it’s a game and it’s supposed to be fun. Be nice to your fellow players and your mod. I have zero tolerance for abusive posts.
[26] The experimental nature of this game may require me to change the rules as we go along. I'll only do this if necessary and with fair warning.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:43 pm

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All Role PMs have now been sent out, therefore:


It is now Day 0: Please read the rules carefully.


Please confirm in the thread once you have read the rules carefully, and feel free to start discussions and posting ballots. Once everyone has checked in, I will set a window for the deadline for ballots to be posted.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:48 am

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You know, you don't have to wait for everyone to confirm before you start discussing and voting...
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:14 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:So, if everyone votes, is day 0 instantly over, or does the day always last until the deadline?
Day 0 will end at the deadline and not before.

Yosarian2 wrote:What happens if some people haven't voted yet by deadline?
I will replace anyone who hasn't voted by the start of the deadline window.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:34 pm

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Current ballots
:

Adele


--
[col]
andersonw


--
[col]
Ectomancer


--
[col]
Max


andersonw
Ectomancer
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Adele
Nocmen
Yosarian2
[col]
Nocmen


Adele
andersonw
Ectomancer
Max
opie
Sarcastro
Shy Guy
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
Yosarian2
[col]
opie


--
[col]
Sarcastro


--
[col]
Shy Guy


--
[col]
springlullaby


--
[col]
Thesp


--
[col]
VanDamian


--
[col]
Yosarian2


--
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Post Post #29 (isolation #6) » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:03 am

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Sarcastro wrote:
Mod
, once everyone has voted, will you give us lists of the order in which people would be lynched based on current votes?
Once everyone has voted, I will simulate one or two days so you can see how the process works. I will not simulate the entire game -- it'll take too long -- but anyone else should feel free to do so.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:34 am

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Oman replaces Adele
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Post Post #53 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:50 am

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Right.

(Except if you end up with 3 Mafia.)
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Post Post #56 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:56 am

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Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


--
[col]
Ectomancer


--
[col]
Max


andersonw
Ectomancer
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Oman
Nocmen
Yosarian2
[col]
Nocmen


Oman
andersonw
Ectomancer
Max
opie
Sarcastro
Shy Guy
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
Yosarian2
[col]
Oman


--
[col]
opie


--
[col]
Sarcastro


--
[col]
Shy Guy


--
[col]
springlullaby


--
[col]
Thesp


--
[col]
VanDamian


--
[col]
Yosarian2


--
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Post Post #70 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:59 pm

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So, now that everyone has checked in, the timetable for the rest of the game will be as follows:
  • Everyone must post a ballot by
    9am GMT Monday 25th February
    . Anyone who does not do so shall be replaced.

  • Assuming that I do not need to make any more replacements, Day 0 will end at some point on or after
    Monday 3rd March
    but no later than
    Friday 14th March
    . The exact deadline will be random, subject of course to my convenience (i.e. when I am at my computer).
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Post Post #72 (isolation #11) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:02 am

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You only get one ballot. Use it wisely!

Mr Stoofer wrote:[04] Every day starting with Day 1, there will be an election using the ballots posted on Day 0. Whoever "wins" the election will be lynched. The next day there will be a new election using the surviving players' ballots. This will continue, until one faction has won.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #12) » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:41 pm

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Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


--
[col]
Ectomancer


--
[col]
Max


andersonw
Ectomancer
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Oman
Nocmen
Yosarian2
[col]
Nocmen


Oman
andersonw
Ectomancer
Max
opie
Sarcastro
Shy Guy
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
Yosarian2
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
springlullaby
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


--
[col]
Sarcastro


--
[col]
Shy Guy


--
[col]
springlullaby


--
[col]
Thesp


--
[col]
VanDamian


--
[col]
Yosarian2


--

Note:
  • Everyone must post a ballot by
    9am GMT Monday 25th February
    .

  • Day 0 will end between
    Monday 3rd March
    and
    Friday 14th March
    .
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Post Post #95 (isolation #13) » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:31 am

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Just to bump this above the locked threads...


Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


--
[col]
Ectomancer


--
[col]
Max


Nocmen
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
springlullaby
VanDamien
opie
Sarcastro
Yosarian2
[col]
Nocmen


Oman
andersonw
Ectomancer
Max
opie
Sarcastro
Shy Guy
springlullaby
Thesp
VanDamien
Yosarian2
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
springlullaby
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


--
[col]
Sarcastro


--
[col]
Shy Guy


--
[col]
springlullaby


--
[col]
Thesp


--
[col]
VanDamian


--
[col]
Yosarian2


--

Note:
  • Everyone must post a ballot by
    9am GMT Monday 25th February
    .

  • Day 0 will end between
    Monday 3rd March
    and
    Friday 14th March
    .
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Post Post #124 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:58 pm

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Skruffs replaces springlullaby
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Post Post #125 (isolation #15) » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:58 pm

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Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


--
[col]
Ectomancer


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
springlullaby
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Nocmen
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
VanDamien
opie
Sarcastro
Yosarian2
[col]
Nocmen


Oman
andersonw
Ectomancer
Max
opie
Sarcastro
Shy Guy
Skruffs
Thesp
VanDamien
Yosarian2
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Skruffs
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


--
[col]
Sarcastro


--
[col]
Shy Guy


VanDamien
Oman
Thesp
Max
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Skruffs
[col]
Skruffs


--
[col]
Thesp


--
[col]
VanDamian


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy

Note:
  • Everyone must post a ballot by
    9am GMT Monday 25th February
    .

  • Day 0 will end between
    Monday 3rd March
    and
    Friday 14th March
    .

  • Nocmen
    would be lynched Day 1 on the basis of the above ballots.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:49 am

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Skruffs wrote:If, say, I have someone as my number 1 today, and neither I nor them are lynched... do they become my automatic vote tomorrow? Or does it go to the second person on my list, even if the first is still alive?
The former.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:47 am

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Don't worry about a single line break at the top of your ballot. That happens when you use the

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 tag.  I will count (and have been counting) ballots like that in Post 141.[/i]
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Post Post #150 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:27 pm

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Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


--
[col]
Ectomancer


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
springlullaby
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Nocmen
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
VanDamien
opie
Sarcastro
Yosarian2
[col]
Nocmen


Shy Guy
opie
Sarcastro
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
Max
Yosarian2
VanDamien
andersonw
Ectomancer
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Skruffs
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


--
[col]
Sarcastro


--
[col]
Shy Guy


VanDamien
Oman
Thesp
Max
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Skruffs
[col]
Skruffs


Shy Guy
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Ectomancer
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
Max
VanDamien
opie
Sarcastro
[col]
Thesp


Max
Yosarian2
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Shy Guy
[col]
VanDamian


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy

Note:
  • Everyone must post a ballot by
    9am GMT Monday 25th February
    .

  • Day 0 will end between
    Monday 3rd March
    and
    Friday 14th March
    .

  • I will simulate a day or two of voting once everyone has posted a ballot
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Post Post #162 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:36 am

Post by Mr Stoofer »

.........
REMINDER
....

Anyone who has not posted
a ballot by 9am GMT Monday
25th February will be replaced


(That means you, Sarcastro).
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Post Post #182 (isolation #20) » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:13 pm

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Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
springlullaby
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Ectomancer
Thesp
Yosarian2
Oman
VanDamien
andersonw
Skruffs
Nocmen
opie
Sarcastro
[col]
Nocmen


Shy Guy
opie
Sarcastro
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
Max
Yosarian2
VanDamien
andersonw
Ectomancer
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Skruffs
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
ShyGuy
Sarcastro


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Shy Guy
Nocmen
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Shy Guy


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Sarcastro
Nocmen
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Shy Guy
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Ectomancer
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
Max
VanDamien
opie
Sarcastro
[col]
Thesp


Max
Yosarian2
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Shy Guy
[col]
VanDamian


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


Day 0 will end between
Monday 3rd March
and
Friday 14th March
.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #21) » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:17 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Here is a simulation of how the first day would go on the basis of the current ballots:

Round 1

Max: 4 (anderswonw, Sarcastro, Shy Guy, Thesp)
Shy Guy: 3 (Max, Nocmen, Skruffs)
opie: 2 (Ectomancer, Yosarian2)
Nocmen: 1 (Oman)
Ectomancer: 1 (opie)
Yosarian2: 1 (VanDamian)


All those with 0 votes are eliminated.
Nocmen, Ectomancer and Yosarian2 are eliminated and their votes re-distributed.

Round 2

Max: 6 (anderswonw, Sarcastro, Shy Guy, Thesp, opie, Oman)
Shy Guy: 4 (Max, Nocmen, VanDamian, Skruffs)
opie: 2 (Ectomancer, Yosarian2)


opie is eliminated and his votes redistributed.

Round 3

Max: 7 (anderswonw, Sarcastro, Shy Guy, Thesp, opie, Oman, Ectomancer, Yosarian2)
Shy Guy: 5 (Max, Nocmen, VanDamian, Skruffs)


Max now has a majority of votes. He would by lynched at this point.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #22) » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:23 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

The second day would then proceed as follows:

Round 1

opie: 2 (Ectomancer, Yosarian2)
Shy Guy: 2 (Nocmen, Skruffs)
Yosarian2: 2 (VanDamian, Thesp)
VanDamian: 2 (Sarcastro, Shy Guy)
Nocmen: 1 (Oman)
Oman: 1 (andersonw)
Ectomancer: 1 (opie)


All those with 0 votes are eliminated.
Nocmen, Ectomancer and Oman are eliminated and their votes re-distributed.

Round 2

VanDamian: 4 (Sarcastro, Shy Guy, andersonw, opie)
opie: 3 (Ectomancer, Yosarian2, Oman)
Shy Guy: 2 (Nocmen, Skruffs)
Yosarian2: 2 (VanDamian, Thesp)


Shy Guy and Yosarian2 are eliminated and their votes re-distributed.

Round 3

opie: 6 (Ectomancer, Yosarian2, Oman, Nocmen, VanDamian, Thesp)
VanDamian: 5 (Sarcastro, Shy Guy, andersonw, opie, Skruffs)


opie now has a majority of votes. He would by lynched at this point.

And this continues until one side meets their win condition...
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Post Post #191 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:59 pm

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I have prodded VanDamien.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:54 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Ectomancer
Thesp
Yosarian2
Oman
VanDamien
andersonw
Skruffs
Nocmen
opie
Sarcastro
[col]
Nocmen


Shy Guy
opie
Sarcastro
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
Max
Yosarian2
VanDamien
andersonw
Ectomancer
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Shy Guy
Nocmen
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Shy Guy


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Sarcastro
Nocmen
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Max
Yosarian2
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Shy Guy
[col]
VanDamian


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


NOTE 1: Day 0 will end between
Monday 3rd March
and
Friday 14th March
.

NOTE 2: Rule [23] is perhaps the most important rule in this game. Please go back and read it now.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:48 am

Post by Mr Stoofer »

I think people are getting the hang of the IRV system. I have put a flow-chart in the opening post, which I found in Wikipedia's entry on IRV.

Since there has been a discussion of the Tiebreaker rules, I will remind you of this:
Mr Stoofer wrote:
Tiebreaker rules

[12] STV/IRV sometimes requires ties to be resolved. I'll follow the tiebreaker rules below, but it may happen that I need to devise further tiebreaker rules. In that case I will devise an ad hoc rule. I doubt that this will be necessary.
[13] If there is a tie for the candidate with the fewest votes (after I have eliminated all players with no votes), I will eliminate all those with the fewest votes -- UNLESS that would leave just one candidate remaining. In the latter case, I will eliminate the candidate with the fewest votes in the previous round.
[14] If all candidates not eliminated have the same number of votes, I will eliminate the player with the fewest votes in the previous round.
These rules were inspired by the Wikipedia discussion of ties:

Wikipedia wrote:
Handling ties


Exact ties can happen in any election; although the odds remain very low when many votes are cast, the multiple rounds of counting used in IRV create more opportunities for a tie than there are in some other voting systems. If there is a tie for last place in the elimination process, various rules can be used to break it:
  1. If the total of all the combined votes of any grouping of the candidates with the fewest votes is fewer than the votes cast for the next weakest candidate, then all those bottom tier candidates can be eliminated simultaneously.
  2. One candidate, from among those tied, is eliminated at random (e.g. by a coin toss).
  3. In Australia the candidate, from among those tied, with the fewest votes in the previous round is eliminated. If there is still a tie those counting votes then look back to the next most recent round and then, if necessary, to further progressively earlier rounds until one candidate can be eliminated.
  4. In Irish presidential elections, the candidate, from among those tied, with fewest first choices is eliminated. If this cannot break the tie, ballot-counters look forwards, first to find the tied candidate with fewest votes in the second round and then, if necessary, to the third, fourth and subsequent rounds.
  5. In some private elections the method is to 'conditionally eliminate' candidates from the tie and recount to see if either (or any) can survive. Usually the full set will become eliminated in any order.
As you can see, I am using a form of rule 3. If I have to adopt an ad hoc rule (see Stoofer's Rule [12]) I will probably use some form of Wikipedia's rules 4 and 5. I will not use rule 2 unless there is no other way to decide the election.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:23 am

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
Oman
VanDamien
opie
andersonw
Skruffs
Thesp
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Shy Guy
opie
Sarcastro
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
Max
Yosarian2
VanDamien
andersonw
Ectomancer
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Shy Guy
Nocmen
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Shy Guy


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Sarcastro
Nocmen
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Max
Yosarian2
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Shy Guy
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


Day 0 will end between
Monday 3rd March
and
Friday 14th March
.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:44 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


opie
VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
Oman
VanDamien
opie
andersonw
Skruffs
Thesp
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Shy Guy
opie
Sarcastro
Oman
Thesp
Skruffs
Max
Yosarian2
VanDamien
andersonw
Ectomancer
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
ShyGuy
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Thesp
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Max
Yosarian2
andersonw
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Shy Guy
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


Day 0 will end between
Monday 3rd March
and
Friday 14th March
.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #28) » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:25 am

Post by Mr Stoofer »

I have been asked to clarify what I mean by "previous round" in the Tiebreaker rules:
Mr Stoofer wrote:
Tiebreaker rules

[12] STV/IRV sometimes requires ties to be resolved. I'll follow the tiebreaker rules below, but it may happen that I need to devise further tiebreaker rules. In that case I will devise an ad hoc rule. I doubt that this will be necessary. (See this post for further details.)
[13] If there is a tie for the candidate with the fewest votes (after I have eliminated all players with no votes), I will eliminate all those with the fewest votes -- UNLESS that would leave just one candidate remaining. In the latter case, I will eliminate the candidate with the fewest votes in the previous round.
[14] If all candidates not eliminated have the same number of votes, I will eliminate the player with the fewest votes in the previous round.
By "round", I am referring to the individual counts, of which there will be several each day. If you look at my simulations, you will see that there were 3 rounds on each day. To resolve a tie, a I will go back to the immediately preceding round and eliminate the candidate with the fewest votes. If I am on the first round of a day, then I'll go back to the last round of the previous day. If that does not resolve the tie, I will go back one more round, and I'll keep going back until I resolve the tie or get to Day 1, Round 1.

I hope that is clear. Don't forget:
Mr Stoofer wrote:[24] If you have any questions at all, please PM me or post the question in the thread.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #29) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:29 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Thesp
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Ectomancer
Oman
Sarcastro
Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs
Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
ShyGuy
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Thesp
Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Max
Nocmen
Yosarian2
andersonw
Sarcastro
Shy Guy
Ectomancer
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


We are now in the deadline window. Day 0 will end without further notice at some point before
Friday 14th March
.

It is vital that you ensure that your votes are correctly recorded in the "Current ballots" summary.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #30) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:55 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Thesp
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Ectomancer
Oman
Sarcastro
Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs
Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
ShyGuy
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Max
VanDamien
Oman
Thesp
Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Yosarian2
andersonw
Ectomancer
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


We are now in the deadline window. Day 0 will end without further notice at some point before
Friday 14th March
.

It is vital that you ensure that your votes are correctly recorded in the "Current ballots" summary.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:14 pm

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Shy Guy
Yosarian2
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Thesp
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Ectomancer
Oman
Sarcastro
Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs
Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
Shy Guy
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Thesp
Max
VanDamien
Oman
Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Yosarian2
andersonw
Ectomancer
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


We are now in the deadline window. Day 0 will end without further notice at some point before
Friday 14th March
.

It is vital that you ensure that your votes are correctly recorded in the "Current ballots" summary.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:15 am

Post by Mr Stoofer »

Current ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


Shy Guy
Oman
andersonw
Nocmen
Yosarian2
Sarcastro
VanDamien
Thesp
opie
Skruffs
Max
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Thesp
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Ectomancer
Oman
Sarcastro
Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs
Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
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VanDamien
andersonw
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Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Oman
Thesp
Shy Guy
VanDamien
opie
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[col]
Shy Guy


Ectomancer
Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Max
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Nocmen
andersonw
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Yosarian2
opie
[col]
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Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
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Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Yosarian2
andersonw
Ectomancer
Sarcastro
opie
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Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
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[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Skruffs
andersonw
opie
Oman
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Max
Ectomancer
Shy Guy


We are now in the deadline window. Day 0 will end without further notice at some point before
Friday 14th March
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It is vital that you ensure that your votes are correctly recorded in the "Current ballots" summary.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:24 pm

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Day 0 has ended.


I will now calculate the result. I am going to take my time doing this, so as to ensure that I do not make any/too many mistakes. Please be patient, and if you spot an error, please PM me or AIM me immediately.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:26 pm

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DAY 1
:


[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


Shy Guy
Oman
andersonw
Nocmen
Yosarian2
Sarcastro
VanDamien
Thesp
opie
Skruffs
Max
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Thesp
Sarcastro
Ectomancer
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Ectomancer
Oman
Sarcastro
Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs
Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Shy Guy
Oman
Ectomancer
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Ectomancer
Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Max
Sarcastro
Nocmen
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Yosarian2
andersonw
Ectomancer
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Sarcastro
Skruffs
Ectomancer
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Max
opie
Shy Guy


Round 1:


Ectomancer: 5 (Nocmen, opie, Shy Guy, Skruffs Van Damien)
Shy Guy: 3 (Ectomancer, Max, Thesp)
Max: 1 (andersonw)
Nocmen: 1 (Oman)
Yosarian2: 1 (Sarcastro)
VanDamien: 1 (Yosarian2)

Everyone but Ectomancer and Shy Guy are eliminated


Round 2:


Ectomancer: 7 (Nocmen, opie, Shy Guy, Skruffs Van Damien, andersonw, Yosarian2)
Shy Guy: 5 (Ectomancer, Max, Thesp, Oman, Sarcastro)

Ectomancer (Townie) lynched day 1
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Post Post #420 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:34 pm

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DAY 2
:


[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
VanDamian
Nocmen
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Thesp
Sarcastro
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Oman
Sarcastro
Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs
Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen
Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Yosarian2
Nocmen
Max
andersonw
Shy Guy
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Max
Sarcastro
Nocmen
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


shy guy
VanDamien
Nocmen
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Yosarian2
andersonw
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Sarcastro
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen
Max
opie
Shy Guy


Round 1:


Shy Guy: 3 (Max, Skruffs, Thesp)
Nocmen: 2 (Oman, opie)
Yosarian2: 2 (Sarcastro, VanDamien)
Max: 1 (andersonw)
Thesp: 1 (Shy Guy)
VanDamien: 1 (Yosarian2)
Oman: 1 (Nocmen)

Everyone but Shy Guy, Nocmen and Yosarian2 are eliminated


Round 2:


Nocmen: 5 (Oman, opie, andersonw, Shy Guy, Yosarian2)
Shy Guy: 3 (Max, Skruffs, Thesp)
Yosarian2: 3 (Sarcastro, VanDamien, Nocmen)

Yosarian2 is eliminated (he had fewer votes than Shy Guy in the previous round)


Round 3:


Nocmen: 7 (Oman, opie, andersonw, Shy Guy, Yosarian2, Sarcastro, VanDamien)
Shy Guy: 4 (Max, Skruffs, Thesp, Nocmen)

Nocmen (
Mafia
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Post Post #421 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:44 pm

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DAY 3
:


[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
VanDamian
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Thesp
Sarcastro
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs
[col]
Oman


Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Sarcastro


Yosarian2
Max
andersonw
Shy Guy
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
Shy Guy


Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Max
Sarcastro
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


shy guy
VanDamien
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Yosarian2
andersonw
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Sarcastro
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
Max
opie
Shy Guy


Round 1:


Shy Guy: 3 (Max, Skruffs, Thesp)
Yosarian2: 2 (Sarcastro, VanDamien)
Max: 2 (andersonw, Oman)
Sarcastro: 1 (opie)
Thesp: 1 (Shy Guy)
VanDamien: 1 (Yosarian2)

Everyone but Shy Guy, Yosarian2 and Max are eliminated


Round 2:


Max: 5 (andersonw, Oman, opie, Shy Guy, Yosarian2)
Shy Guy: 3 (Max, Skruffs, Thesp)
Yosarian2: 2 (Sarcastro, VanDamien)

Yosarian2 is eliminated


Round 3:


Max: 6 (andersonw, Oman, opie, Shy Guy, Yosarian2, Sarcastro)
Shy Guy: 4 (Max, Skruffs, Thesp, VanDamien)

Max (Townie) lynched day 3
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Post Post #422 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:51 pm

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DAY 4
:


[col]
andersonw


Oman
VanDamian
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Oman


Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Sarcastro


Yosarian2
andersonw
Shy Guy
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Sarcastro
andersonw
Skruffs
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Shy Guy
VanDamien
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Yosarian2
andersonw
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Sarcastro
Skruffs
andersonw
Oman
opie
Shy Guy


Round 1:


Shy Guy: 3 (Oman, Skruffs, Thesp)
Yosarian2: 2 (Sarcastro, VanDamien)
Oman: 1 (andersonw)
Thesp: 1 (Shy Guy)
Sarcastro: 1 (opie)
VanDamien: 1 (Yosarian2)

Everyone but Shy Guy and Yosarian2 are eliminated


Round 2:


Yosarian2: 5 (Sarcastro, VanDamien, andersonw, Shy Guy, opie)
Shy Guy: 4 (Oman, Skruffs, Thesp, Yosarian2)

Yosarian2 (Townie) lynched day 4
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Post Post #423 (isolation #38) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:57 pm

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DAY 5
:


[col]
andersonw


Oman
VanDamian
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
Shy Guy
[col]
Oman


Shy Guy
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
andersonw
[col]
opie


Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Shy Guy
[col]
Sarcastro


andersonw
Shy Guy
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Sarcastro
andersonw
Skruffs
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Shy Guy
VanDamien
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Thesp
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
andersonw
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


Shy Guy
Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs


Round 1:


Shy Guy: 4 (Oman, Skruffs, Thesp, VanDamien)
Oman: 1 (andersonw)
Sarcastro: 1 (opie)
andersonw: 1 (Sarcastro)
Thesp: 1 (Shy Guy)

Everyone with 0 votes is eliminated; and andersonw is eliminated based on having the fewest votes in Round 1 of Day 4


Round 2:


Shy Guy: 5 (Oman, Skruffs, Thesp, VanDamien, Sarcastro)
Oman: 1 (andersonw)
Sarcastro: 1 (opie)
Thesp: 1 (Shy Guy)

Shy Guy (Townie) lynched day 5
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Post Post #424 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:03 am

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DAY 6
:


[col]
andersonw


Oman
VanDamian
Opie
Sarcastro
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Oman


Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
andersonw
[col]
opie


Sarcastro
Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
[col]
Sarcastro


andersonw
Oman
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Skruffs


VanDamien
Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro
Thesp
opie
[col]
Thesp


andersonw
Sarcastro
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


Sarcastro
Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs


Round 1:


Sarcastro: 3 (Oman, opie, VanDamien)
andersonw: 2 (Sarcastro, Thesp)
VanDamien: 1 (Skruffs)
Oman: 1 (andersonw)

Everyone but Sarcastro and andersonw is eliminated


Round 2:


Sarcastro: 4 (Oman, opie, VanDamien, andersonw)
andersonw: 3 (Sarcastro, Thesp, Skruffs)

Sarcastro (
Mafia
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Post Post #425 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:08 am

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DAY 7
:


[col]
andersonw


Oman
VanDamian
Opie
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Oman


opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
Thesp
andersonw
[col]
opie


Oman
Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
[col]
Skruffs


VanDamien
Oman
andersonw
Thesp
opie
[col]
Thesp


andersonw
opie
Skruffs
Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs


Round 1:


Oman: 3 (andersonw, opie, VanDamien)
andersonw: 1 (Thesp)
opie: 1 (Oman)
VanDamien: 1 (Skruffs)

Everyone with 0 votes eliminated; opie and VanDamien eliminated based on Round 2 of Day 6


Round 2:


Oman: 4 (andersonw, opie, VanDamien, Skruffs)
andersonw: 2 (Thesp, Oman)

Oman (Townie) lynched day 7
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Post Post #426 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:13 am

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DAY 8
:


[col]
andersonw


VanDamian
Opie
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
opie


Skruffs
VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
[col]
Skruffs


VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
opie
[col]
Thesp


andersonw
opie
Skruffs
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamien


opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs


Round 1:


VanDamien: 2 (andersonw, Skruffs)
andersonw: 1 (Thesp)
Skruffs: 1 (opie)
opie: 1 (VanDamien)

Everyone with 0 votes eliminated; opie and Skruffs eliminated based on Round 2 of Day 7


Round 2:


VanDamien: 3 (andersonw, Skruffs, opie)
andersonw: 2 (Thesp, VanDamien)

VanDamien (Townie) lynched day 8
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Post Post #427 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:17 am

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DAY 9
:


[col]
andersonw


Opie
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
opie


Skruffs
andersonw
Thesp
[col]
Skruffs


andersonw
Thesp
opie
[col]
Thesp


andersonw
opie
Skruffs


Round 1:


andersonw: 2 (Skruffs, Thesp)
opie: 1 (andersonw)
Skruffs: 1 (opie)

Everyone with 0 votes eliminated; Skruffs eliminated based on Round 1 of Day 7


Round 2:


andersonw: 3 (Skruffs, Thesp, opie)
opie: 1 (andersonw)


andersonw (Townie) lynched day 9
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Post Post #428 (isolation #43) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:23 am

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DAY 10
:


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opie


Skruffs
Thesp
[col]
Skruffs


Thesp
opie
[col]
Thesp


opie
Skruffs


Round 1:


Skruffs: 1 (opie)
opie: 1 (Thesp)
Thesp: 1 (Skruffs)

Thesp is eliminated based on Round 1 of Day 9


Round 2:


opie: 2 (Thesp, Skruffs)
Skruffs: 1 (opie)

opie (Townie) lynched day 10
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Post Post #429 (isolation #44) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:29 am

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Thesp (Townie) killed in endgame


The Mafia (Skruffs, Sarcastro & Nocmen) win!


~~~~~

Final result
:
  • Ectomancer (Townie) lynched day 1
  • Nocmen (
    Mafia
    ) lynched day 2
  • Max (Townie) lynched day 3
  • Yosarian2 (Townie) lynched day 4
  • Shy Guy (Townie) lynched day 5
  • Sarcastro (
    Mafia
    ) lynched day 6
  • Oman (Townie) lynched day 7
  • VanDamien (Townie) lynched day 8
  • andersonw (Townie) lynched day 9
  • opie (Townie) lynched day 10
  • Thesp (Townie) killed in endgame
  • Skruffs (
    Mafia
    ) survived
~~~~~

The ballots
:

[col]
andersonw


Max
Oman
Ectomancer
VanDamian
Nocmen

Opie
Sarcastro

Thesp
Skruffs

Yosarian2
Shy Guy
[col]
Ectomancer


Shy Guy
Oman
andersonw
Nocmen

Yosarian2
Sarcastro

VanDamien
Thesp
opie
Skruffs

Max
[col]
Max


Shy Guy
Thesp
Sarcastro

Ectomancer
Yosarian2
andersonw
opie
Oman
VanDamien
Skruffs

Nocmen
[col]
Nocmen


Ectomancer
Oman
Sarcastro

Thesp
VanDamien
andersonw
Max
Yosarian2
Skruffs

Shy Guy
opie
[col]
Oman


Nocmen

Max
Shy Guy
Sarcastro

opie
Ectomancer
Skruffs

VanDamien
Thesp
Yosarian2
andersonw
[col]
opie


Ectomancer
Nocmen

Sarcastro

Oman
Skruffs

VanDamien
andersonw
Thesp
Max
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Sarcastro


Yosarian2
Nocmen

Max
andersonw
Shy Guy
Oman
Ectomancer
Thesp
VanDamien
opie
Skruffs
[col]
Shy Guy


Ectomancer
Thesp
VanDamien
Oman
Max
Sarcastro

Nocmen

andersonw
Skruffs

Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Skruffs


Ectomancer
Shy Guy
VanDamien
Nocmen

Oman
andersonw
Sarcastro

Max
Thesp
Yosarian2
opie
[col]
Thesp


Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen

Yosarian2
andersonw
Ectomancer
Sarcastro

opie
Skruffs

Oman
VanDamien
[col]
VanDamian


Ectomancer
Yosarian2
Shy Guy
Max
Nocmen

Sarcastro

Oman
opie
andersonw
Thesp
Skruffs
[col]
Yosarian2


VanDamien
Thesp
Sarcastro

Skruffs

Ectomancer
andersonw
Oman
Nocmen

Max
opie
Shy Guy
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Post Post #430 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:40 am

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Phew! I hope I got all that number crunching right - or at least right enough so as to get the correct result. I would be very grateful if you could check it yourself and tell me if you agree.

Well done to the Mafia and in particular Skruffs; they won because he got into the final two, as simple as that. I really think that the Mafia ought to win this game, so kudos must go to the Town for making the Mafia fight all the way to the last ballot for their win.

I hoped you all enjoyed the game.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #46) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:47 am

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Yes, I agree that opie wins the "Best Scumhunter" prize for this game; although Yosarian2 get an honourable mention for putting Skruffs in at #4. Apart from those two, no-one had him in their top half.

I also agree that the game is very much the Mafia's to lose. I think you have to have "Open" ballots as we did for this game to work, in which case I think a 9/3 setup is about right. 10/2 would be too hard for the Mafia. I'm not sure what else you could do to balance the game (especially if you want to comply with Stoofer's 4th Law).
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Post Post #441 (isolation #47) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:50 am

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Thesp wrote:That said, I hated the game itself. I'm glad I tried it, but I despised not getting any lynch information throughout the game. Thanks for running the game, Stoofer - this isn't an indictment on your modding skills, but rather on no-reveal games (of which this is a special subset).
Yes. I think it was a worthwhile experiment, but it is indeed a form of no-reveal game and I don't like such games either. I wouldn't run this form of game again. But Methodical Mafia 1 was such a success that I couldn't resist trying this version.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #48) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:30 pm

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Post Post #457 (isolation #49) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:09 am

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Mr Stoofer wrote: [18]The Role PMs look like this:
To the 9 Townies I wrote:Role: Townie

Please read the Rules very carefully and then confirm in the thread.
To the 3 Mafia I wrote:Role: Mafia.

The Mafia in this game are: XXX, XXX, XXX.
You may talk to each other outside the thread from now until the end of Day 0
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Please read the Rules very carefully and then confirm in the thread.
General Rules

[19] The game is not to be discussed outside the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so.
The Mafia may talk throughout Day 0.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:38 am

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Mr Stoofer, to every single player, wrote:
Please read the Rules very carefully
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Post Post #462 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:08 am

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That is not even the beginnings of an excuse.

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