I think I responded to this already at some point. I thought pressure and case on Sheep was pretty light but I wanted to wagon there to see how he responded. Turned out that was just going to be the main topic of the day forever and I jumped ship when I thought we had gotten most out of it. I don't like how sheep reacted over the course of the whole day but early on I was willing to shift the spotlight onto someone else (anyone who voted for Sheep or myself would have been fine because it was still early) so I may have played it a little loose voting Uzi but I wanted a shift in game perspective and didn't mind putting myself in a spot to be called out on such a fast switch vote.In post 315, WhemeStar wrote:I think hawk jumped on the sheep wagon which was a weak slip, him and others jumped on it which makes me suspect them a little bit, which one town wants to lynch? Idc, saw people voting hawk, so I voted himself too because he is also suspicious to me
Also to respond to
Bolded this is fucking important because he thinks that sheep and fro99er was TvT (which there are arguments for but I don't think that)In post 332, WhemeStar wrote:I feel this game is just sheep/froggy arguing with each other,In post 331, Terata wrote:Wheme, you really think who was on Sheep at the time is the by far most Alignment telling thing that's happend so far? you have no read on other things like actual game-solving done?
WHat did you think about lil's case on sheep a page ago or so. What do you think about me. and what did you think about my #311 about you?and I think their both town. I like the way sheepy defended himself and how froggy pushed him. They are still both town reads for me.Honestly I am behind, trying to catch up more and more but than more and more pages are getting added, which is why I'm really only responding to things being asked towards me, trying to catch up though. And ill hopefully have more reads soon.
So a soft reads list here is good. I like the reasonings. Bolded what I think is important so I'm going to ask some questions really quick about them.In post 458, WhemeStar wrote:Ill try to do this piece by piece, too try and show that I'm trying my best to help out town. Sorry if you prefer me to give my opinions in one big post though.In post 455, Aj The Epic wrote:No opinion on:WhemeStar wrote:I feel like this game is froggy vs sleepy, and I'm not sure on what to say about it.
Lowell and my interactions
CO and Frogger's interactions
Sheep's response to it
Gerrygoat in general
Lowell on ECM and Naomi
There's a circus going on and you're just focusing on the last act.
Gerrygoat in general has been useless IMO. He hasn't contributed anything to the game (less than me) and I find it suspicious. Only thing he contributed too was saying sheep slipped, and claimed that he was the one who pointed out the slip, but Frogger did IMO.But I don't think mafia would do what gerry is doing, so Im going to say he's null-town
Sheep and Frogger have been going at it all game. At first I thought it was froggy just trying to get reactions out of others, but then it kept going on and on.After reading both of their posts over and over I think sheep is trying to just blame froggy of not reading his posts/answering his questions/misrepping him. Which I think is a scummy move, just asking questions over and over again. I thought sheep's slip wasn't really a slip, but his posts lately have me thinking he is possible scum.
Lowell- I don't like some of his posts, such as iso #2. Where he voted sheep and said "is the slip real? who knows". Seems to me like he didn't have much reason to vote sheep and he didn't really care. I do like his recap on post #355 though.Also said that EC/Naomi flipped when he had a FOS on them, yet I don't see anything that shows them flippinng out.Possible scum.
I find it really strange how Lowell said AJ's posts are spot on and right. Yet in a previous post, AJ said that he thinks Lowell is scum.Is that a slip?I also think that Lowell is wrong on Naomi, she seems genuine town for me, and I will be against a lynch on her for a while.
EC voted me for not explaining my vote on Hawk? Which I thought I did, and I had nothing else to say about it. Used my previous posts as an example of me saying nothing. And said me getting a vote on me is the reason I became substantial. Which was wrong.EC, please get avatar, pls.
If you guys want more or if I missed some things, ask and Ill try to explain best I can.
For now, id like to vote lowell.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lowell
From this reads list you reread Sheep and Froggy's epic back and forth what changed in roughly 100 posts for you to go from TvT to TvS? Also in particular what about Sheep's posts did you find towny because I just want and idea into your though processes here. Please expand this read for me when you get the chance. I noticed it follows similar read down below but I'd like more.
Gerry is just too lurkery and too what to be scum? Please enlighten me as to what you meant there.
Agree with the comment about Lowell here but I do want to know what you like about Lowell's posts in 355 and why you scum read Lowell if you think Sheep is scum too? Do you see any associative here or are you just saying within these two there is at least one scum or??
Last thing, talk to me about AJ. Like the bolded underlined comment about a slip. Whats with that? You leave AJ out of your reads here and give a very very brief town read on him below. Why?? Talked to me here because this isn't flowing for me.
Why do you ask Terata that? Like is there a reason its Terata? I understand there is pressure on you from him but.... Like why specifically him? Why specifically in response to his pressure. Why so quickly and so effortlessly rather than any other defense.
Okay Solid reads. Increasing size for ECM again because GET AN AVATAR!!! ARRGGHH so hard to see you sometimes lol.In post 507, WhemeStar wrote:Froggy
Naomi
Tereta - Like his posts and his pushes on me and others
AJ - like how he pushes some people like Tereta is, asked questions to get discussion.
I like how he pushed me for not explaining in detail with Hawk.EC - FFS get an avatar pls,
Gerry - Doesn't post much, but I don't think that scum would be so obvious
Lil Uzi - Posts don't contain much but every once in a while he posts something good, like post #287
Hawk - I don't really see where he fell off, can someone help explain that too me?
Chaos - I agree with others saying he tried to derail Sheep's wagon
Penguin - Not much to say with him only having 6 posts.
Sheep- Don't really like how his response to frog was mostey questions, and then called out frog for being scum by not answering said questions.
Lowell - His post counteracts itself when he said that he likes AJ because he is a lurker but when he posts his reads are spot on, but AJ called him scum earlier.
Also of note here You don't provide reasoning for Froggy and Naomi. I understand that they are your top town leans. But here me out. I need to know why. Specifically about Naomi. Naomi has for me from what I've skimmed from rereading a few times now trying to catch up been fine, but nothing that couldn't be coasting under the radar. Not that I have particularly strong reads on Naomi I'd lean her town too just point out what really cements your read on Naomi for me would you?
I want you to address this really quick. Is your only FoS my vote because of a slip? Also why don't you see how I fell off. I basically became non existent.In post 514, WhemeStar wrote:I had a FOS on Hawk since the sheep slip, which I thought was weak, but I don't see how he fell off, which is why he's null for me, not scum.In post 513, Terata wrote:ok, thoughts on hawk?In post 511, WhemeStar wrote:I've liked her posts since her first one. I don't have much else to say besides that, her posts seem town genuine.In post 509, Terata wrote:Frogg is pretty obvious, but Naomi im more interested in, i think she seems like an active player overall and wonder what specifically makes you townread her. Also you dont have to think Hawk has fell off, just give your own thoughts on him.
(btw, are all your reads ordered? or is it just general tiers?)
*facepalm* this is bad. You've been told why its bad. But I'll explain. If you have a really good feeling about who could be scum and we lynch correctly today your role would prove very useful come N3 if you could make it that long but now you're never making it that far unless you're scum or we have some other god awesome PR's, the claim itself feels forced and awkward and entirely out of characteristic for someone with only a few votes on them. I understand Fro99ys hesitation to believe this. If anything it might have reinforced his vote.In post 544, WhemeStar wrote:@Penguin, what is wrong with asking to reveal? I asked the question because votes were being put on me and people suspected me so I didn't know if I should reveal or not. But oh well, Ill do it anyway.In post 540, PenguinPower wrote:In post 457, gerryoat wrote:I'll actually read later on._____________________________In post 345, PenguinPower wrote:Liar.Sheep fell apart. I can do Wheme.
VOTE: Wheme
In post 463, WhemeStar wrote:Also, most of my reads are sheeps from other peopleI'm going to try and vote you again.In post 476, WhemeStar wrote:Want me to reveal?
VOTE: Wheme
_______________________________LUV moves up in my townreads to join Fro99er and Naomi. Congrats on the promotion. Unfortunately there is no pay raise associated.
Im aTown Odd Night Rolestopper.. Sorry if my actions don't seem towny, Im working on it still.
PEDIT: Okay so not lynching you today is not necessarily good? If you're lying about role stopper being town this game town potentially risks you being able to hit one of our actual PR's tonight which isn't likely but still not good if we have a Cop or a Vigi with a good shot or a doc or something. I don't nesscarily want to lynch you because I don't think your play up until now has been too scummy but you have lurked a bit and haven't contributed much. I do like your reads I just want a lot more from you.