Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over
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In post 1640, RadiantCowbells wrote:No way bud.
You were a watcher who watched a kill and got tracker results you'd be hella unhappy about it RN.
Stop the straw grasping and trying to make Ether look bad.
OUR ROLE IS TOWN TRACKER WITH A MISLEADING ACTION DESCRIPTION WE USED OUR ACTION THINKING WE WHERE A TRACKER. I AM NOT MAD THAT I GOT THE EXPECTED ROLE RESULT I AM MAD YOU ARE MISREPPING THIS AS SCUM.
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We thought we were a tracker though. It'd be a happy accident if we were actually a Watcher. we didn't notice this error until now, obviouslyIn post 1640, RadiantCowbells wrote:No way bud.
You were a watcher who watched a kill and got tracker results you'd be hella unhappy about it RN.
Stop the straw grasping and trying to make Ether look bad.
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No, they wouldn't. As I've explained, confirming a mod error in role PM's would literally mod confirm me as town. They can't do that, the scum team would be understandably furious.In post 1651, RadiantCowbells wrote:The mod would have confirmed that SOMETHING happened if something happened.
This is sheer lunacy. fuck off with your shit Aristophanes.
...oh i thought it sounded good.Not_Mafia wrote:So this is something I think we're all thinking and someone has to be the one to step up and say it
androgybee is a really bad username
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If Ether confirms there was a mod error in Role PM's, we are essentially confirmed a Tracker.In post 1658, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, they wouldn't. As I've explained, confirming a mod error in role PM's would literally mod confirm me as town. They can't do that, the scum team would be understandably furious.
No it fucking wouldn't.
Scum tracker, scum watcher, doesn't mean shit.
If we're confirmed a tracker, we did track Ranger. It doesn't make sense as scum that we would water down our report in advance to this whole role PM madness in order to hide a superior report.
If we did track Ranger, it makes no sense for us to be scum.
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A fire has been lit in my heart. I am now invested in this game. I work all day tomorrow but tomorrow evening I'm going to try to do a reread and post a wall on current thoughts. I'll try my best not to get bogged down by confbias but obviously I don't have a good opinion of RC and Titus' slots rn. We have 10 days left and I'd appreciate if I would be given the time to put this together.
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I'm sorry you're annoyed RC Forgetting the whole mod error thing (which it honestly is frustrating me that it took that to convince people I'm town) we really are town and I would still like to hear a complete explanation of why we're obvscum, including your fabled tonal reads.Nahdia/beeboy hydra-
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I can't post detailed thoughts now bc work but we're not voting RC. i had time last night to read the part I missed while I was asleep and beeboy was posting and I can see the possible progression of his read. will have more on this later but yeah just throwing that out there
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In post 1690, Nahdia wrote:my thoguhts on titus are still negative though. especially as time went on they seemed like scum tryign to avoid getting mauled by the wounded animal that was my reaction to being wagoned.
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We did not think we were a watcher. You must not have been reading very closely on your catch up, please try again.In post 1693, Titus wrote:In post 1647, androgybee wrote:Well I mean, I hate to use a mod error to towntell but if we're a scum tracker, why track Ranger? and if we didn't actually target Ranger, why not out our real, probably more useful result?
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Yeah, there was likely no mixup. You said in your Skype chat you tracked Ranger out of fear, but now we're supposed to think you thought you were a watcher? Regardless this mystical error got cleared up by the time you picked your night action, so what's the relevance other than trying to fake a town tell?
If you tracked someone other than Ranger, outing them confirms a townie.
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Boy oh boy aren'tIn post 1697, Titus wrote:In post 1694, Ircher wrote:So, whats the chances of the claim being true?
5% and that's because site meta loves stupidity and lurking lately and punishes minority views for existingyougonna look stupid! <3
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We thought we were a tracker until midday today, when Beeboy realized our role PM actually details a Watcher role despite being detailed as Tracker. After contacting Ether, she made the decision that we were unfortunately going to stay as a tracker since that's the result she gave and that's how we were playing up until then. We're not sure if Yimmy meant for us to be a watcher or a tracker in reality, and I assume Ether isn't really sure either.In post 1699, Titus wrote:In post 1696, androgybee wrote:
We did not think we were a watcher. You must not have been reading very closely on your catch up, please try again.In post 1693, Titus wrote:In post 1647, androgybee wrote:Well I mean, I hate to use a mod error to towntell but if we're a scum tracker, why track Ranger? and if we didn't actually target Ranger, why not out our real, probably more useful result?
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Yeah, there was likely no mixup. You said in your Skype chat you tracked Ranger out of fear, but now we're supposed to think you thought you were a watcher? Regardless this mystical error got cleared up by the time you picked your night action, so what's the relevance other than trying to fake a town tell?
If you tracked someone other than Ranger, outing them confirms a townie.
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What is this bullshit then?
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Uh, pisskop wasn't scumreading me in Zelda. SirCakez was. Remember who I lynched?In post 1703, Titus wrote:In post 1698, androgybee wrote:An accurate summary of my townplay is a very long string of OMUGS's. I'm often right though ^_~
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None of this is true. You're likely scum and your lylo play was off in Zelda. You didn't even consider Pisskop.
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Assuming you're referring to the error in the roel PM, beeboy brought it up as soon as he noticed it, before we got a response from Ether.In post 1709, Ircher wrote:And, yet you brought it up in thread as an attempt at towncred?Nahdia/beeboy hydra-
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I do what I have to to avoid getting lynched. I do not like to get lynched. I did tell you I'm very hard to lynch.In post 1710, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't.
I believe that Nahdia would be willing to AtE excessively and pull out dumb shit like the claim change specifically because it's against me.
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I'm not?RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't like how Nahdia's treating Titus like she's town now.
@Ircher you'll have to ask beeboyNahdia/beeboy hydra-
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OK, are you yelling at me for past failures or are you trying to make a point about this game? Currently it seems like the former. I'm happy to talk about my logic during Zelda mafia if you want but this seems like not really the place...................In post 1717, Titus wrote:In post 1708, androgybee wrote:Titus are you OK? You seem to having some memory issues.
No. I remember that game well. Pisskop and Dave's to made that game about likability instead of logic and consistent emotional play and you fell for it after me stating REPEATEDLY that's their scum MO AND getting night killed. You decided you were going to decide based on feels.
I resent the feels.
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And I literally said half a page ago I don't think RC is scum so like, actually suck a dick, Ircher.
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Jesus christ it was a joke.Titus wrote:Both. You don't get to brag about how good you are by OMGUSing when that's a path to hell. And you don't get to discredit my memory when it's right.
You need to scumhunt talk to me about other reads or die.
That Ircher vote is terrible.Nahdia/beeboy hydra-
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I'd have to think about that one for awhile. Off the top of my head, Iecerint or Titus. I still think you're town, RC I lean town on... Aristo I'd maybe consider. I reacted positively to them last night but mulling over it and rereading some parts I missed, I'm a bit wary of them possibly white knighting my slot. Gork I'm pretty sure is town. Not_Mafia.... eh, I really don't know where I stand on him ATM. Who am I forgetting?In post 1729, Ircher wrote:@Andro
If you were vengeful, who would you vengekill alongside your death rn?
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Stop. Ircher is town. Stop trying to use my flip as a means to pivot into future lynches -_-'In post 1730, Titus wrote:I NEED VIGS!
Willing to lynch Ircher now.
You don't blame the victim for the yelling AND plan flips in the event they are town. That's terribad.Nahdia/beeboy hydra-
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RC is convinced we're scum. I can kind of see what he's forcing on, having reread the part I was asleep for, but our slot really honestly is town -_-' I forgive him for his read though but I wish he'd stop being so bullheaded and at least talk to me.
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p-edit right Mura uh yeah I'm not sure where I stand on him either but he might be a useful flip since I think a lot of people have given opinions on him? Him and NM are two I definitely need to ISO tonight.
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It's really lame to try to talk to a slot you're tryign to sort and have them just shut the door on you and as I said that does fit RC's scum meta at times but tbh I've seen him do similar stuff as town and at least this time I can understand the progression of his read. He's wrong though -_-' not the first time he's been wrong on me either
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Yes, that's a pretty good summary.In post 1740, Titus wrote:In post 1734, androgybee wrote:
Stop. Ircher is town. Stop trying to use my flip as a means to pivot into future lynches -_-'In post 1730, Titus wrote:I NEED VIGS!
Willing to lynch Ircher now.
You don't blame the victim for the yelling AND plan flips in the event they are town. That's terribad.
So you have zero problem with Ircher lining up lynches if you flip town but you have a problem with me calling Ircher out on this as...lining up lynches??????
Someone get me vodka. Stat.
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Then I don't really understand again ._.In post 1751, Titus wrote:In post 1749, androgybee wrote:Look I know I'm not a very good player but I'm calling it like I see it. I'm pretty sure Ircher was town and the way you just pivoted onto him was a lot worse fmpov than the way he asked me for my opinions on who should be murdered.
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If I was scumreading him for the vengekill question, you'd have a point.
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I'm pretty sure I've explained why I think Ircher is town and I've never freaking played with him before this game and know nothing about him so why are you presuming I read based on who I like? Like christ almighty, step the fuck off. That's actually a really mean thing to say and if you really think that's how I played Zelda mafia than I'm genuinely hurt. I'm a rookie but I'm not that much of a putz.
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In post 1772, beeboy wrote:In post 1724, Titus wrote:Both. You don't get to brag about how good you are by OMGUSing when that's a path to hell. And you don't get to discredit my memory when it's right.
You need to scumhunt talk to me about other reads or die.
That Ircher vote is terrible.
I mean you can continue to misrep the situation but an OMGUS isn't exactly wrong when you are literally full of it.
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you're vote is still on me and just said "this isn't town Nahdia" so yeah.In post 1773, Titus wrote:I just said I was doubting my scumread on you and now you're saying I'm wrong?Nahdia/beeboy hydra-
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I'm willing to admit I'm easier than most to pocket but I don't think it's fair to say I only read people based on likability. I vote people who townread me sometimes. It happens >_> . I'm trying my best this game OK? I'll give some more coherent thoughts once I'm off work and then later some drunk thoughts and hopefully no one will have hammered me before then.
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i mean basically my intention is just to post a wall of readlists and thoughts on this day in particular now that i've gotten some distance from stuff that kind of sent me into a frenzy of AtE in the moment. being wagoned is a good perspective to get reads from in my experience if you have the time to take a step back
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I really don't like Aristo's last post again. They're kinda setting themselves up to switch back over to my wagon if the opportunity presents itself. I understand u don't have to keep up the confidence u had earlier but having said "androgybee may have confirmed themselves as town" then switching to that is... disheartening. like you really were just trying to buddy me in case i survive this or something. sigh.
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sorry if that was disappointing i can post more tomorrow i have major attention problems and that was really difficult to do and my friends are trying to get me to watch a movie with them now so
Gork, RC, Ircher, Fire Assassin, and Not_Mafia are town.
Not sure on Maru and Roshar,
There's scum in Iecerint, Titus, Aristo
I'm pretty happy with having cut this game in half for now. I want to ISO Maru and Roshar in particular tomorrow. Aristo and Titus have given me a lot of really heavy mixed vibes. Iecerint hasn't really done anything to redeem himself in my eyes.
James Bond and Hard Cider time. seeya nerds <3
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i dont wanna go without acknowleding this post ok i appreciate u clearing that up and it'd be really sad to me if i was only saved by that mod error so i appreciate u looking past that. i hope u can understand the trepidation i am having on ur slot tho.In post 1794, Aristophanes wrote:
Not at all. I still believe you to be town. Very strongly. And my vote will not go to you today.In post 1793, androgybee wrote:I really don't like Aristo's last post again. They're kinda setting themselves up to switch back over to my wagon if the opportunity presents itself. I understand u don't have to keep up the confidence u had earlier but having said "androgybee may have confirmed themselves as town" then switching to that is... disheartening. like you really were just trying to buddy me in case i survive this or something. sigh.
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I'm trying to think critically about this rather than let myself be blinded by the role mixup.
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At this point I feel like I've made a decent bit of progress solving the game and I'm more comfortable being lynched on the condition people consider my reads after I die.
I'd still ike to ISO Rosh and Maru when I'm a bit less lazy but I could easily end up incorrect on them since neither really interacted with my slot heavily.
If you're interested in meta diving me your best bets are Newbie 1686 and Micro 592 (Legend of Zelda). Unfortunately I was never seriously under a heavy push in either of them.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=65431
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65594
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Oh and I know I've said so but to reiterate since Gork said something to the contrary; I think RC's read on my slot is genuine and I don't think he's scum trying to force through a mislynch. I guess I could be wrong but honestly I think the reasoning for heavily scumreading our slot is legitimate, unfortunately.
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