Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over


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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:49 am

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In post 1196, Gorkington wrote:maruchan.
can you provide an example or two of someone that youve played with who, as scum, did some of the things youre saying are scummy about ircher's play?

No actually I can't, becuase I had to wait 30 minutes for the 20+ pages of new posts to load for me to catch up in THIS game alone, without even ATTEMPTING to try to metadive my past however-thr-fuck-bignumber-many-games for you. And I haven't played games seriously in years so none of them are fresh in my memory.
In post 1209, Iecerint wrote:
In post 1195, Maruchan wrote:@Iece, I'm not interpreting anything. I am literally showing a chronological analysis of ircher's "reads" on a SINGLE playerslot, that are flipflopping more than a dying fish. I didn't interpret them in any which way. I just pointed it out, so that it was blatantly obvious to everyone else.


I don't do team-hunting. Nothing of ircher's play only makes him look scummy IF someone else is also scum. Ircher is independantly scummy on his own.

You are saying "Ircher did weird stuff; ergo he is scum."

I agree with you that you can read the read changes and think "That is weird stuff."

However, consider WHY Ircher would do what he did if both slots were town.

It would make LESS sense, right? Even though it's weird regardless.

Let me know if I am wrong about this by explaining it to me.

Uhm. Exactly this? his actions make less sense if they are both town than if irhcer is scum. Exactly my point. O.o I'm glad you understand? Ircher-as-town has no reason to be inconsistent with his reads, as they are genuine and can therefore be genuinely traces (like everyone town readign me is saying, while they don't agree with my analysis of what makes my scumreads scummy, they can see that I genuinely am legitimately trying to build cases, and am being consistent in what shit i find scummy, therfeore, my reads while they may be wrong, feel genuine to them) Ircher doesn't have that. He's flip-floping his reads every other post as he gets put on the defensive for something he says/does and is flailing. Scum can be inconsistent with their "reads" becasue they have no reads. they know who is scum and who is town, and that's that.
In post 1256, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Maruchan

This was kinda opportunistic btw RC. Voted me without any reason or making any comments on yoru read of me, and last i read I thought you had me in on leaning-town mostly null, so this seems even more opportunistic. Care to explain it any more in depth?
In post 1426, androgybee wrote:I got a message last night with a song that was titled Mincs and Boo.

There are Tracker, and there are Rolecops in Plotinus' roles (what beeboy claimed, and what nahdia breadcrumbed, respectively), but there is NOTHING to do with anything remotely resembling music vendor or wahtever.

I call BS
In post 1470, Gorkington wrote:obvscum.
while saying not confident.
ugh.

i really want maru and iece and fire and ari to fully react to all of this.
but fucking hell i really want this flip.

I have no reaction as of this post, just a whole lot of nothing but bickering going on in real-time causign 20+ pages of catchup, except Titus is likely town (the Outraged!Town titus emotion seems genuine). But then again, I *DID* just have to sit through 20+ pages of bullshit, and i was kind of speed reading it because it bores me.
In post 1660, RadiantCowbells wrote:There's plenty of way Ether can answer this question.
If she gave someone the wrong role the least she can do is say 'Hey, ~unspecified~ error was made interpreting the Role PMs.'
That confirms no one as town.

The mod would not come in in the middle of a fucking in-thread discussion about mod errors B YA SINGLE PLAYER, and confirm that ~unspecified player~ had an error in their role PM. Are you fucking dense? If onyl ONE PLAYER is ACTIVELY DISCUSSIGN a problem with their role PM ,and the mod said "HEY GUYS SOME RANDOM ONE PERSON HAD FUCKED UP ROLE PM", that's kinda fucking obvious.

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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:57 am

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andro isnt lying about the music vendor.
so i mean.
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:03 am

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Day 2, Votecount 24


3 androgybee (Titus, Fire Assassin, RadiantCowbells)
3 Iecerint (Ircher, Aristophanes, Not_Mafia)
3 Titus (Iecerint, Roshar, androgybee)

2 Unvote (Gorkington, Maruchan)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-02 18:00:00), or on Monday, May 2nd at 6:00 pm EDT.


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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:03 am

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In post 1674, Ircher wrote:@Not
We're not lynching RC.


Town case him then.

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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:07 am

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Well at this point I'm happy lynching you two regardless of alignment so easy!
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:13 am

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i hope youre not talking about me.
because youre not lynching me.
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:14 am

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Beeboy & Nahdia.

I'll worry about you later.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:15 am

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yay!
i like being worried about later!
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:21 am

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In post 1677, Ether wrote:
Day 2, Votecount 24


4 Titus (Iecerint, Roshar, androgybee, RadiantCowbells)
2 androgybee (Titus, Fire Assassin)
2 Iecerint (Ircher, Aristophanes)

3 Unvote (Gorkington, Maruchan, Not_Mafia)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-02 18:00:00), or on Monday, May 2nd at 6:00 pm EDT.




Rc is voting AB, not me.
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:43 am

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It's true. Not_Mafia's vote has also been fixed, as a bonus.
As I move my vote
Towards your wagon, town is taking note
It fills my head up and gets louder and
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:44 am

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titusssssss.
i really need you to be more town.
talk to me about your androgy read please.
three really simplified points at most would be ideal.
about why you think shes scum.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:45 am

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why you think theyre scum**
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:51 am

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You'll get it later. I got work. You're lucky because I see you're actually engaging me and with the amount of noise reason can get lost. I rarely repeat myself.

You need me to be town. That's just wrong. You KNOW I am fucking town but a VT claim is always safer to lynch.
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:53 am

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I can't post detailed thoughts now bc work but we're not voting RC. i had time last night to read the part I missed while I was asleep and beeboy was posting and I can see the possible progression of his read. will have more on this later but yeah just throwing that out there

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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:54 am

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In post 1687, Titus wrote:You KNOW I am fucking town

i really dont.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:55 am

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my thoguhts on titus are still negative though. especially as time went on they seemed like scum tryign to avoid getting mauled by the wounded animal that was my reaction to being wagoned.

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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:55 am

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In post 1690, Nahdia wrote:my thoguhts on titus are still negative though. especially as time went on they seemed like scum tryign to avoid getting mauled by the wounded animal that was my reaction to being wagoned.

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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:18 am

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Spoiler: Mini 1781 - D2 Catchup 51-67
1. - Andro says I'm null and Maru's sketchy. - Andro puts me on the same tier as Maru -
That just isn't right. Sketchy implies you are leaning scum on them, yet you put me, a null read, on the same tier? That makes little sense to me. -
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2. - Titus says I was folloswing RC and the Ice wagon had no reasoning behind it -
Yes, I was sheeping RC cuz 1) He's good and 2) He's very likely to be town. But, Aristo did do an Ice ISO earlier, so there was some reason for the wagon. -
Null-Town Indicative


3. by RC -
Oh wow! That's like a first! I wonder why...... -
Null-Indicative


4. - Gork requests town case for Andro -
Looking through, ever since you guys started voting and scumreading them, they've been on the defensive. Their defensive arguments are poor and they seem to be appealing a lot to AtE or trying to get a counterwagon going. Their last readlist was absolutely awful and inconsistent, so yeah, I can agree with a scumread on them. -
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5.
Regarding Titus right now: At first, it just seemed Titus was being unreasonable. But, reconsidering, Titus always has an aggressive playstyle, regardless of alignment. I'm starting to read her posts as being genuine rather than faked. It does help Titus a lot when Andro's #1 scumread right now is Titus who was probably the easiest target to choose..... -
Town-Indicative


6. - Ando claims tracker -
Who'd you target N1? -
Null-Indicative


7. - Andro got a song titled "Minsc and Boo" -
Music Vendor? I wonder who that is.... -
Null-Indicative


8. - RC says protect him - [i)Any particular reason? -
Null-Indicative
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9. - Gork complains about Andro targeting a townread -
Meh, maybe they weren't confidemt? Idk.... -
Null-Town Indicative


10. -
97% chance of town RC.


11. - Andro thinks RC is gonna coast -
Trust me, that's not happening. -
Null-Indicative


12. -
The key is you flipping town.


13. - Andro is heavy AtEing -
Is this normal as both alignments for them? I'm starting to think town, but idk. -
Null-Town Indicative


14. - Andro states RC and Titus not scumteam -
I would prefer Titus in that case. -
Null-Indicative


15. -
Exactly! Ranger wasn't a good pick though.


16. -
Good reason to state why Andro is town.... Unless they are faking it all. I'm back to wanting Maru lynched after this post..... -
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:28 am

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In post 1647, androgybee wrote:Well I mean, I hate to use a mod error to towntell but if we're a scum tracker, why track Ranger? and if we didn't actually target Ranger, why not out our real, probably more useful result?

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Yeah, there was likely no mixup. You said in your Skype chat you tracked Ranger out of fear, but now we're supposed to think you thought you were a watcher? Regardless this mystical error got cleared up by the time you picked your night action, so what's the relevance other than trying to fake a town tell?

If you tracked someone other than Ranger, outing them confirms a townie.
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:30 am

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So, whats the chances of the claim being true?
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:30 am

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In post 1685, Gorkington wrote:titusssssss.
i really need you to be more town.
talk to me about your androgy read please.
three really simplified points at most would be ideal.
about why you think shes scum.


1. Its the wagon RC started that didn't claim
3. Bullshit tracker claim
3. Terrible omgus
4. Opportunistic voting
5. AtE lies regarding tracker claim
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:30 am

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In post 1693, Titus wrote:
In post 1647, androgybee wrote:Well I mean, I hate to use a mod error to towntell but if we're a scum tracker, why track Ranger? and if we didn't actually target Ranger, why not out our real, probably more useful result?

~Nahdia


Yeah, there was likely no mixup. You said in your Skype chat you tracked Ranger out of fear, but now we're supposed to think you thought you were a watcher? Regardless this mystical error got cleared up by the time you picked your night action, so what's the relevance other than trying to fake a town tell?

If you tracked someone other than Ranger, outing them confirms a townie.
We did not think we were a watcher. You must not have been reading very closely on your catch up, please try again.

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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:31 am

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In post 1694, Ircher wrote:So, whats the chances of the claim being true?


5% and that's because site meta loves stupidity and lurking lately and punishes minority views for existing
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:31 am

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An accurate summary of my townplay is a very long string of OMUGS's. I'm often right though ^_~

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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:32 am

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In post 1696, androgybee wrote:
In post 1693, Titus wrote:
In post 1647, androgybee wrote:Well I mean, I hate to use a mod error to towntell but if we're a scum tracker, why track Ranger? and if we didn't actually target Ranger, why not out our real, probably more useful result?

~Nahdia


Yeah, there was likely no mixup. You said in your Skype chat you tracked Ranger out of fear, but now we're supposed to think you thought you were a watcher? Regardless this mystical error got cleared up by the time you picked your night action, so what's the relevance other than trying to fake a town tell?

If you tracked someone other than Ranger, outing them confirms a townie.
We did not think we were a watcher. You must not have been reading very closely on your catch up, please try again.

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What is this bullshit then?
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