Mini 506: The Siena Syndicate - Game Over!

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Tyhess lynched me in a dif game like yesterday. It's no big, new game new everything blah blah blah.

Blatent OMGUS

Vote: CDB

(ChannelDelibird)

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unvote, Vote: Originality

Lame attempt at trying to be original.

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Nice OMGUS there Mr. Original. (btw, that's an unoriginal name, unoriginal tactic (OMGUS) and unoriginal tagline (the day is now).

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*laugh*

I like this, this'll be fun. I'll not unvote. Originalityscum! Obvobv. Tell us who your partners are and we'll let you live tonight.

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Your choice man. But jumping off the bandwagon before the pressure has been felt ruins the point of it.

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Avinyl, the beginning parts of the game are seriously supposed to be fun and joking around. As time goes conversation gets more serious and people slip up. Getting upset and assuming people are scum because they're doing what they should be doing and helping us to move out of the random voting stage is overanxious. You've got a few votes on you currently so I won't vote you but IGMEOY.

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I did notice something. In 37 you posted a FoS against everyone that voted Originality excluding CC who posted 2 hours before you. You couldn't have cross posted with him so...why exclude him?

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*laugh* Nice OMGUS there bud. Got any reasoning or will you admit it's simply OMGUS?

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I'm asking for a reason to defend myself and asking you to help the town in finding scum (setting a case against me is indeed trying to find scum).

Your unhelpfulness to the town is noted with a non random

confirm vote: Originality

. Currently you're the best bet we've got right now and i'm ready to pull us out of the random voting stage and into Scum Hunting. Starting with you.

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Oh really? That's not a reason at all. "I'm special, therefore i'm confirmed town and anyone that votes me is scum". Yeah....so convincing. Keep talking though.

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....>.>

Well then. Go town. Kill scum....

Page 3 on Day 1 is actually not slow at all.

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If you're dayvig, you're really bad. You kill me for pressuring you? That's part of the game. I would suggest not playing this game anymore if you honestly think you can win like this.

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Dude....that was a really bad joke. Do you know how scummy you look? Any conversation you hoped to start with that will almost exclusively be directed at you and don't expect to recieve any highfives or positive sentiments.

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Originality, YOU just acted like you would do it. Based on your joking scum claim and your other joke claim and your uncooperativeness it's highly likely you would do such a thing. You picked a bad time for a bad joke man. I think you are confirmed for not having any dayvig powers though.

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That's a weak defence.

I think if you perhaps gave a real defence or lead a charge against someone you think is scummy (as i'm doing to you) you might allieviate suspicion.

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What are you? A jester?

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Originality. You're at -2, i'd suggest thinking about a claim soon.

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Wow. Well, don't forget the possibility that we have a successful doc and a vig/sk.

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After rereading CC's posts i'm getting a town vibe from him.

I think we should focus on Avinyl or Chronx for the scummy hammer.

Chronx, care to explain why you hammered without a claim?

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Why even offer a WIFOM argument when it's just that? WIFOM.

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Don't try to spin this off on me. My actions are clear and it's very visible what I was doing. It was taken out of my hands by other people's votes and I wanted a claim, you prematurely hammered. Now we've lost a roleblocker which could potencially have stopped the scum from killing innocents had he chosen correctly.

Your whole last paragraph is OMGUS.

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Of course I called for a claim. We all know how bizarre Orig was acting. I personally feel claims are very helpful. In fact if he hsa claimed rb we could've benefited if he stopped a mafia kill or something. He could tell us who he blocked and we could pressure that person. Claims can be and are very helpful, even on day 1.

You hammered early in the morning (for me) after the -1 was put on Orig after I went to bed. There was no way for me to pull my vote off.

I do like your list though. I'd get mine up but i've got to head to bed soon and have other threads to catch up on.

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Hey guys, i'm going to be V/LA until Sunday, Monday at the latest.

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Hahaha. Well, i'm back and yes, I have a tendancy to attack agressively. While out in the woods I reflected on this game and honestly, i'm getting some scummy vibes from Peers. He stayed away from the Orig wagon and laughed as it grew but never really did anything, kinda like laughing as the town lynched what he knew was an innocent.

Vote: Peers

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Happy birthday CDB.

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Tyhess, that's called WIFOM. Because it tries to get inside the mind of an alignment and you can't do that. Just go read the Wiki page about it.

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Translation: "If you start being more productive, this bandwagon will die and I will need to look for another one to hide in"

Noo, *sigh* I don't mind your arguments except when you use this craplogic. You're interpreting what he's saying with a severe Clock scum bias. Not, an I'm town bias. You could just look at that and say, "Gee, he meant exactly what he said, nothing more nothing less". But instead you're going, "If he were scum, this is what he would

really

be saying." I mean come on man.

I don't like noose around the neck claims

What other types are there? Do you honestly expect to get honest results from such a claim?

Explained above my reasons why Bus Driver suggestion is overtly scummy to me.

Call me thick but I don't see how thinking aloud about what roles are in the game is scummy. Above this sentence you explained how it was unlikely that there would be an rb and a bus driver...but how is that scummy? Sorry to ask this

again

but in lay mans terms can you explain how thinking there's a bus driver is scummy?

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Hahaha, I wasn't defending anyone. I was merely curious why suggesting the posibility of a role being in this game was so scummy. Your case seems a bit far fetched there ChronX is all.

ChronX, ever since late yesterday (game time) you've been acting like your back was too the wall. Very defensive and quick to anger. What's going on man? If you want you can pm me if it's serious.

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Yeah no prob. I'm not fully convinced as your previous post seemd a bit more defensive an unnecessary, "I'm going to get you kill you scum you're dead" but hey, that's looking like it's you.

Right now i'm in a very cheery buddy up mood so i'm going to head off before I let someone off and lose my discernment. Night man, sleep well.

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I think i'd like to hear more from Avinyl. He's maintained a very open ended strategy of thinking multiple people are suspicious which isn't bad except that he hasn't really taken one over the other. More like I find XXX, YYY and ZZZ suspicious so i'll vote YYY.

Avinyl, can you set out a case against someone that you find suspicious?

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Trust me Clockwork, I can definitely fight my own battles. I think however that you weren't defending me so much as just inquiring what was going on. If CDB was voting you Chron I bet he'd do the same. *waits for this to be called a defence*

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I will post my suspicions later today.

That was two days ago.

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unvote, vote: CDB

Bandwagon!

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Bandwagon!

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I'm here, no need for a prod.

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Ok, seems we've got a wagon forming on VH. I think i'm going to do an isolated read through of all of his posts and if anything sticks out i'll ask about it.

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12 total posts. An ASTONISHING 6 of which have had no game relevance! Oh, my, GOSH.

Post's 5 and 6 are random vote followed by an uneccesary ebwop.

13, no relevance.

Cynic Clinic seems to have accrued four votes without much fanfare at all. I reckon there could be scum on this wagon.

I'll have a look back over the posts of those voting for him.

Meh only 3. Also mine was a random vote. But for now Unvote: Clynic Clinic I shall also go back and look through and see if there has been any scummy behaviour!

....it's page 2....what exactly are you expecting to find?

VH in 45 is just horribly scummy. (I honestly can't believe i've missed this) He restates the obvious, then suggest it might be scum doing it (WIFOM). Then he takes someone else's ideas, say, "I agree with him" but then adds, "but it could be scum trying to get an early target to make their game a whole lot easier." WIFOM anyone? Fence sitting much?

In post 70 VH says he'll reread (again?) and decide whether he'll vote Orig.

Post 78 he votes Orig and tries to buddy up to me.

87 is utterly devoid of content.

107 (anyone else notices that these last 4 posts have a 7 in them?) comes and goes, no content.

113, rereads....again. For a 7 page game this is a bit excessive. Why do I get the feeling he's not actually reading the thread but just going along with the majority?

116 is just wrong, wrong, scummy, bad, just ick. Buddies up to me and Clock while pointing fingers a lurkers and then accusing ChronX of being Too Townie.

142 follows with no content.

159, wtf type of LoS is that?! You can't be suspicious of 3 people for the EXACT same reasons! My gosh man.

I can't believe he's lasted so long. He hasn't participated in any of the major discussions. Hasn't added any new information. Hasn't done anything helpful at all and has been practically lurking. I can't see VH as anything other than obv scum or really really really really really really really bad town.

Unvote, Vote VH

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What're your thoughts on VH and CC?

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Read through...again. Don't you have the thread memorized by now?

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If you're in any games that are around 10 pages aren't aren't mini's or Newbie's I can probably replace for you.

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Clock, the vote was purely for conversational purposes. Normally people will get real up in arms with an unexplained bandwagon vote. This thread is having trouble keeping post count so I figured a bandwagon might jump start it.

Hmm, I thought I was voting VH...

Unvote, Vote VampanezeHunter

Mod: You were voting CDB, but I'll count that in the next VC (Obviously)

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*laugh* Nice Peers.

Listen VH, I went through all your posts and did a nice pbpa on you. I'm not going to repost that. Instead i'll redirect you to the bottom of the last page about 2 days ago I posted post 168 which has the case against you.

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Glork, i've got some words for you. Remind me endgame ok?

Otherwise your analysis seems nice and good.

In answer to your question, no. I would have given little to no pause and would've wanted him lynched anyway. I would've likely come up with some legalistic excuse and doubted the probability of an rb in a 12p and probably would've pushed all the harder on him. Due to this wagon and another wagon I was involved in where we lynched the doc i've decided to give careful thought to the likelihood of someone actually being what they claim to be.

Glork, you didn't really mantion Hadf in your analysis. Are you going after him for lurking?

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In answer to your question, no. I would have given little to no pause and would've wanted him lynched anyway. I would've likely come up with some legalistic excuse and doubted the probability of an rb in a 12p and probably would've pushed all the harder on him. Due to this wagon and another wagon I was involved in where we lynched the doc i've decided to give careful thought to the likelihood of someone actually being what they claim to be.

So what exactly is the point in your harping on ChronX for not allowing the chance for a claim?
What if he had allowed the claim and Orig claimed Doc, for example? Or Mason?

The point of getting on ChronX's case was to add some pressure where I figured it should go.
Had he claimed doc or mason I likely would've tried to get him lynched anyway. I said this already.

Glork, you didn't really mantion Hadf in your analysis. Are you going after him for lurking?

I believe I stated that he hasn't contributed much, and that what little he has (such as his wagon vote on Vamp) has been uninspiring. Combination of two things, really.

Ah ok, gotcha.

I still want to keep my vote on good ole' uncontributing semi lurker VH.

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Avinyls thoughts don't really seem to have much substance behind them. Nor do I see much hard backing behind them. I get a "gut feeling, gut feeling, gut feeling" type of thing.

FoS: Avinyl

Still, waiting on VH to post today, not holding my breath though.

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Unvotep

Bah.

Glork, I refuse to lynch CC today, i'm getting a real strong townie vibe from him.

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Gorrad, my vote is hovering over you. Feel free to contribute though.

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Happy Birthday Glork!

Honestly I can't really pick it out, it's just a gut feeling that he's town. Don't get me wrong though, i'll still be keeping an eye out, if anything it means i'll be more critical of him because if he does something scummy it'll also contradict my feeling of him now.

I'm willing to see where this clock thing goes but i'm still very wary of Gorrad because of VH.

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Wow, I disappear for a day and nothing new. This is the easiest thread to catch up on!

Hadhfang, who/what is "tghan"?

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tghan
avinyl

Wow...interesting.

Glork, nice siggy.

*contentless*